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From: [e-mail]
Subject: [PS] 3D Ultra Pinball Rebounds
Date: 03 Mar 1999 19:31:00 -0600

3D Ultra Pinball Rebounds
--------------------------

A designer on the 3D Ultra Pinball series told us the cancellation of 3D
Ultra NFL Pinball was not related to the massive Sierra layoffs. The team,
which is still designing other 3D Ultra Pinball titles, decided the NFL
license would not sell in Europe, which is where the games have
traditionally sold well. Only one pinball team member was lost due to the
layoffs. Ken Schramm of Sierra confirmed there are more 3D Ultra Pinball
Titles under development.

Source: AVault

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From: Sam Gabrielsson <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: [PS] 3D Ultra Pinball Rebounds
Date: 04 Mar 1999 04:38:38 +0100

I suppose I could add to that what I was told in an email from one of the
pr people at sierra "the 3D Ultra Line is still very much continuing -- we
have three new titles for 1999."

not sure if that is one title with three tables she meant or if it is three
different products, well I'm not a bigger sierra fan so I find it midly
interesting whichever

At 19:31 1999-03-03 -0600, you wrote:
>3D Ultra Pinball Rebounds
>--------------------------
>
>A designer on the 3D Ultra Pinball series told us the cancellation of 3D
>Ultra NFL Pinball was not related to the massive Sierra layoffs. The team,
>which is still designing other 3D Ultra Pinball titles, decided the NFL
>license would not sell in Europe, which is where the games have
>traditionally sold well. Only one pinball team member was lost due to the
>layoffs. Ken Schramm of Sierra confirmed there are more 3D Ultra Pinball
>Titles under development.
>
>Source: AVault
>
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From: Andy Fielding <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: [PS] 3D Ultra Pinball Rebounds
Date: 12 Mar 1999 15:29:09 -0800

Hi Sam,

>I suppose I could add to that what I was told in an email from one of the
>pr people at sierra "the 3D Ultra Line is still very much continuing -- we
>have three new titles for 1999."
>
>not sure if that is one title with three tables she meant or if it is three
>different products, well I'm not a bigger sierra fan...

Yeah, no kidding.  Who cares how many more titles they have planned?  What
an excuse for pinball those things are.  Geez.


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From: Andy Fielding <[e-mail]>
Subject: [PS] Ordering BRUSA?
Date: 12 Mar 1999 15:40:26 -0800

Can anyone tell me where I can order Big Race USA over the Web?

I don't expect anyone is selling it here in Canada yet (or ever?).
Somewhere in the U.S. would do (though that means paying import duty, of
course -- sigh.)  Anyway, thanks for the help!

Cheers,  Andy


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From: "cypOrlando" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: [PS] Ordering BRUSA?
Date: 12 Mar 1999 19:22:26 -0500

I ordered mine from outpost @ www.outpost.com it was on backorder when i
ordered 02/18/98.  I called and they had no idea when it would be available.
I assume all the participants on the ladder r in europe....is that right?
they have on-line tracking i will be checking today.  I have a lot of
questions about BRUSA if the smartest few of us  would like to answer.  I
want my BOS web page back!!!!!  I will pay!!!  (if not way too much..hehe)
We can split it!  there were close to 2000 on before.....surely 1/4 or so
would pitch in..

What i really want is 2-player pinball on-line.  I can't find it!  guess i'm
off to the arcade again!

-----Original Message-----


>Can anyone tell me where I can order Big Race USA over the Web?
>
>I don't expect anyone is selling it here in Canada yet (or ever?).
>Somewhere in the U.S. would do (though that means paying import duty, of
>course -- sigh.)  Anyway, thanks for the help!
>
>Cheers,  Andy
>
>
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From: "William Stilwell" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: [PS] Ordering BRUSA?
Date: 12 Mar 1999 17:09:56 PST

I ordered my copy from    www.outpost.com
on Feb 3 -- told it was on backorder and had it by the
17th of February

>From: "cypOrlando" <[e-mail]>
>Reply-To: [e-mail]
>To: <[e-mail]>
>Subject: Re: [PS] Ordering BRUSA?
>Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1999 19:22:26 -0500
>
>I ordered mine from outpost @ www.outpost.com it was on backorder when
i
>ordered 02/18/98.  I called and they had no idea when it would be
available.
>I assume all the participants on the ladder r in europe....is that
right?
>they have on-line tracking i will be checking today.  I have a lot of
>questions about BRUSA if the smartest few of us  would like to answer.
I
>want my BOS web page back!!!!!  I will pay!!!  (if not way too
much..hehe)
>We can split it!  there were close to 2000 on before.....surely 1/4 or
so
>would pitch in..
>
>What i really want is 2-player pinball on-line.  I can't find it!
guess i'm
>off to the arcade again!
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Andy Fielding <[e-mail]>
>To: [e-mail] <[e-mail]>
>Date: Friday, March 12, 1999 6:41 PM
>Subject: [PS] Ordering BRUSA?
>
>
>>Can anyone tell me where I can order Big Race USA over the Web?
>>
>>I don't expect anyone is selling it here in Canada yet (or ever?).
>>Somewhere in the U.S. would do (though that means paying import duty,
of
>>course -- sigh.)  Anyway, thanks for the help!
>>
>>Cheers,  Andy
>>
>>
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From: "Rob Rosenhouse" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: [PS] Ordering BRUSA?
Date: 12 Mar 1999 19:17:19 -0700



Try  www.cdaccess.com.  That's where I got mine.  $29.95 plus $5 shipping.

Rob

At 03:40 PM 3/12/99 -0800, you wrote:
>Can anyone tell me where I can order Big Race USA over the Web?
>
>I don't expect anyone is selling it here in Canada yet (or ever?).
>Somewhere in the U.S. would do (though that means paying import duty, of
>course -- sigh.)  Anyway, thanks for the help!
>
>Cheers,  Andy
>
>

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From: "cypOrlando" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: [PS] Ordering BRUSA?
Date: 13 Mar 1999 00:29:29 -0500

Back from arcade.   NO FAIR...I thought nobody had brusa yet!!!  so u guys r
on the ladder already?  What about Balls of Steel (BOS) www site?  Does
anyone miss it like I do?  how does brusa compare with THE BEST: BOS???  I
recently had to reformat my hard drive so pls give me brusa address.....yes
i'm lazy....why do u think i like pinball?  Actually, i'm not lazy, they
just make me work way
too much!  I'll be raising HELL with outpost now.  can we play 2-player at
brusa site....or anywhere?  back to the arcade now (the all night one that
serves beer, yeeee-ha).

-----Original Message-----


>I ordered my copy from    www.outpost.com
>on Feb 3 -- told it was on backorder and had it by the
>17th of February
>
>>From: "cypOrlando" <[e-mail]>
>>Reply-To: [e-mail]
>>To: <[e-mail]>
>>Subject: Re: [PS] Ordering BRUSA?
>>Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1999 19:22:26 -0500
>>
>>I ordered mine from outpost @ www.outpost.com it was on backorder when
>i
>>ordered 02/18/98.  I called and they had no idea when it would be
>available.
>>I assume all the participants on the ladder r in europe....is that
>right?
>>they have on-line tracking i will be checking today.  I have a lot of
>>questions about BRUSA if the smartest few of us  would like to answer.
>I
>>want my BOS web page back!!!!!  I will pay!!!  (if not way too
>much..hehe)
>>We can split it!  there were close to 2000 on before.....surely 1/4 or
>so
>>would pitch in..
>>
>>What i really want is 2-player pinball on-line.  I can't find it!
>guess i'm
>>off to the arcade again!
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Andy Fielding <[e-mail]>
>>To: [e-mail] <[e-mail]>
>>Date: Friday, March 12, 1999 6:41 PM
>>Subject: [PS] Ordering BRUSA?
>>
>>
>>>Can anyone tell me where I can order Big Race USA over the Web?
>>>
>>>I don't expect anyone is selling it here in Canada yet (or ever?).
>>>Somewhere in the U.S. would do (though that means paying import duty,
>of
>>>course -- sigh.)  Anyway, thanks for the help!
>>>
>>>Cheers,  Andy
>>>
>>>
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From: Andy Fielding <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: [PS] Ordering BRUSA?
Date: 15 Mar 1999 17:33:23 -0800

>I ordered mine from outpost @ www.outpost.com it was on backorder when i
>ordered 02/18/98.  I called and they had no idea when it would be available.
>I assume all the participants on the ladder r in europe....is that right?
>they have on-line tracking i will be checking today.  I have a lot of
>questions about BRUSA if the smartest few of us  would like to answer.  I
>want my BOS web page back!!!!!  I will pay!!!  (if not way too much..hehe)
>We can split it!  there were close to 2000 on before.....surely 1/4 or so
>would pitch in..

I have no idea who you are, as you didn't sign your post.  (This is Andy
Fielding speaking.)  Thanks for replying, though.

I asked Outpost.Com about BRUSA.  Here's what they (or rather, what their
form-reply) said:

>Thank you for your interest in this product.  Unfortunately, the item
>has been discontinued by the manufacturer and is no longer available.
>However, we sell many other products that may fit your needs, so please
>visit our web site at <http://www.outpost.com>.  Also, please feel free
>to e-mail or call us for advice on alternative products.

So, it's out of print??  Can that be right?  I thought it was brand-new.
Or did it simply sell so poorly that the merchants all sent it back?


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From: Martin Mathis <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: [PS] Ordering BRUSA?
Date: 15 Mar 1999 23:42:50 -0700


I ordered my BRUSA USA copy directly from Empire US at
http://www.empire-us.com/
It's $39.95 but I got it in back February. From the print on the box it
actually looks like it's the British packaging, like they had some stock
shipped over? Since I received the game I haven't checked up on other
places to order from and I don't even know if it has hit the stores here.
-Martin

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From: Peter Nyles <[e-mail]>
Subject: [PS] Ordered Brusa Saturday..........
Date: 16 Mar 1999 02:24:07 -0500

I ordered Brusa on Sat from CDACCESS.COM , filled in online info and was
sent a reply sat night with a fed ex. Tracking number , Checked the fed
ex sight and saw that the sim went out sat night at 8:15 from oakland
cal. and will arrive here in NY the latest today at noon or so (2 day
delivery) , with the shipping it comes to $35 , great quick service ,
cant wait till it comes to the door today , givem a shot i'm sure they
have more in stock.......Live from NY........Pete


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From: "Harold Wm (Bill) Gross" <[e-mail]>
Subject: [PS] Fw: Suggestions For Pro Pinball
Date: 20 Mar 1999 19:01:08 -0600

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Dear Mr. Swarthout,
    I sent the following E-Mail to Empire Interactive. I am forwarding =
it to you for your information.

Sincerely,
Harold Wm (Bill) Gross ([e-mail])

----- Original Message -----=20
Sent: Friday, March 19, 1999 10:35 PM


Dear Sir,
    I don't know if I'm sending this to the right folks but I would like =
this forwarded to the powers to be at Cunning Developments. I truly =
believe that I have viable suggestions that would make Pro Pinball more =
enjoyable to the avid pinball enthusiast. Please forward to Pro Pinball =
Cunning Developments.

    I would like to commend you folks for making the outstanding Pro =
Pinball games. I have purchased all three of your Pro Pinball products =
and attest that they are the best PC pinball simulations available.
    I would like to suggest that you folks seriously consider making a =
pinball simulation along the old classic electro mechanical table =
similar to what Microsoft did with Pinball Arcade and the Gottlieb =
tables. I am not suggesting that you copy any particular existing =
electro mechanical pinball table. I am suggesting designing a new table =
that captures the look, feel, sound of the old nostalgic classic electro =
mechanical machine. I believe with the experience and expertise of =
Cunning Developments that it is possible to integrate the best of the =
old electro mechanical table with the new solid state machine.
    I believe the PC pinball enthusiast enjoys hearing all the =
mechanical sounds of relays, servos, transformers, springs, mechanical =
linkage make during game play that is indicative of the old electro =
mechanical machines.
    I believe this new classic table could have an unique feature =
designed in to allow the table top playing field to be raised up and =
view the under side of the table. When viewing the underside of the =
table top you would be able to view all the relays,servos, transformers, =
springs, mechanical linkages, tilt mechanism, lights, fuses, wires and =
all the other things that make an electro mechanical table work. I =
believe this would enhance the illusion that this is a real pinball =
machine. This goes hand and hand with the aim of Pro Pinball to bring =
the simulation experience as close as possible to actually owning and =
playing a real pinball machine.
    I believe this raising the table top feature could be integrated =
into the Options Menu and become one of the functions in the menu. =
Example - You would raise the table top and adjust (maybe turn a screw =
or something) on one of the servo relays to change the power of the =
flippers. This is just one example and other Option Menu items =
adjustments could be made in this fashion.
    A feature that could be incorporated before game play begins during =
the testing phase would be that all the relays, servos, flippers, =
lights, etcetera, quickly cycle through making all the various operating =
sounds.
    I would like to suggest that when designing your new release of Pro =
Pinball that you design a clear view table that allows full view of the =
ball when it is in play. I believe the player should not have the ball =
obscured by objects and have to guess where the ball is hiding when it =
is in play.
    I would also like to suggest that you consider making a table that =
has multi-levels somewhat along the lines of Gottlieb's Haunted House. =
This multi-level playing field makes the game more challenging =
especially if the multi-level flippers are controlled by different =
control keys.
    In your literature you mention that Cunning Developments visit the =
newsgroup rec.games.pinball. Do they ever visit the Pinball Simulation =
Web Page http://www.pcpinball.com ? This is an informative site devoted =
to the PC pinball enthusiast. Many PC pinball simulation players visit =
this site and in the site's message board express their views, ideas, =
and desires. I believe the Cunning Developments team can benefit by =
routinely visiting this site.
    I hope this E-Mail has provided some ideas that might help make Pro =
Pinball better.

Sincerely,
Harold Wm (Bill) Gross ([e-mail])


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<DIV><BR></DIV>
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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: [PS] Fw: Suggestions For Pro Pinball
Date: 20 Mar 1999 21:13:28 -0600

At 07:01 PM 3/20/99 -0600, you wrote:
>   Dear Mr. Swarthout,     I sent the following E-Mail to Empire
>Interactive. I am forwarding it to you for your information.   Sincerely,
>Harold Wm (Bill) Gross ([e-mail])   ----- Original Message -----
>From: Harold Wm (Bill) Gross   To: [e-mail]  Sent:
>Friday, March 19, 1999 10:35 PM Subject: Suggestions For Pro Pinball
> Dear Sir,     I don't know if I'm sending this to the  right folks but I
>would like this forwarded to the powers to be at Cunning  Developments. I
>truly believe that I have viable suggestions that would make Pro  Pinball
>more enjoyable to the avid pinball enthusiast. Please forward to Pro
>Pinball Cunning Developments.       I would like to commend you folks for
>making the outstanding Pro Pinball games. I have purchased all three of
>your Pro  Pinball products and attest that they are the best PC pinball
>simulations  available.     I would like to suggest that you folks
>seriously consider making a pinball simulation along the old classic
>electro  mechanical table similar to what Microsoft did with Pinball Arcade
>and the  Gottlieb tables.


So you want them to make a unrealistic piece of shit like the Micro$oft
product ?


I am not suggesting that you copy any particular
>existing  electro mechanical pinball table. I am suggesting designing a new
>table that  captures the look, feel, sound of the old nostalgic classic
>electro mechanical  machine. I believe with the experience and expertise of
>Cunning Developments  that it is possible to integrate the best of the old
>electro mechanical table  with the new solid state machine.     I believe
>the PC pinball enthusiast enjoys  hearing all the mechanical sounds of
>relays, servos, transformers, springs,  mechanical linkage make during game
>play that is indicative of the old electro  mechanical machines.
>enhance the illusion that this is a real pinball machine. This goes  hand
>and hand with the aim of Pro Pinball to bring the simulation experience as
>close as possible to actually owning and playing a real pinball  machine.
>  I believe this raising the table top  feature could be integrated into
>the Options Menu and become one of the  functions in the menu. Example -
>You would raise the table top and adjust (maybe  turn a screw or something)
>on one of the servo relays to change the power of the  flippers. This is
>just one example and other Option Menu items adjustments could  be made in
>this fashion.     A feature that could be incorporated before  game play
>begins during the testing phase would be that all the relays, servos,
>flippers, lights, etcetera, quickly cycle through making all the various
>operating sounds.

All this was done in the last release.
Didnt you see it ?
It was on the operator menu right after the options, unpack and plug in the
pinball but before the option to level the playfield.
I had a hell of a time getting my BigRace to level right !!


     I would like to suggest that when designing  your new
>release of Pro Pinball that you design a clear view table that allows  full
>view of the ball when it is in play. I believe the player should not have
>the ball obscured by objects and have to guess where the ball is hiding
>when it  is in play.     I would also like to suggest that you  consider
>making a table that has multi-levels somewhat along the lines of
>Gottlieb's Haunted House. This multi-level playing field makes the game
>more  challenging especially if the multi-level flippers are controlled by
>different  control keys.

That was the one thing that pisssed me off with the Microsoft product
and Haunted House was the default settings for the flippers.
So what are their 7 or 8 flippers in Haunted House and you want to assign
different keys to each levels flippers ?
Thats insane !!!!!!

Hey I got a better idea.
Lets let the guys at Cunning work on the easy shit first like
giving us a patch that has Gamma correction and saving Hi scores to
a file before you start going under your next Pro Pinball game with
a solder iron.

[e-mail]
Mr.Waf

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From: "cypOrlando" <[e-mail]>
Subject: [PS] BRUSA order of 02/18/99
Date: 22 Mar 1999 00:23:24 -0500

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others have obtained from different sources including empire, the =
manufacturer.  please help me resolve this problem ASAP as i am a new =
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W1087776.  hope to hear back from u soon.  Thx....ben

p.s. i'm ben Andy....thx for asking!
  =20
-----Original Message-----


>I ordered my copy from    www.outpost.com
>on Feb 3 -- told it was on backorder and had it by the
>17th of February
>
>>From: "cypOrlando" <[e-mail]>
>>Reply-To: [e-mail]
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>>Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1999 19:22:26 -0500
>>
>>I ordered mine from outpost @ www.outpost.com it was on backorder when
>i
>>ordered 02/18/98.  I called and they had no idea when it would be
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>>I assume all the participants on the ladder r in europe....is that
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>>they have on-line tracking i will be checking today.=20

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From: Sam Gabrielsson <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: [PS] Ordering BRUSA?
Date: 22 Mar 1999 19:03:44 +0100

>>Thank you for your interest in this product.  Unfortunately, the item
>>has been discontinued by the manufacturer and is no longer available.
>>However, we sell many other products that may fit your needs, so please
>>visit our web site at <http://www.outpost.com>.  Also, please feel free
>>to e-mail or call us for advice on alternative products.
>
>So, it's out of print??  Can that be right?  I thought it was brand-new.
>Or did it simply sell so poorly that the merchants all sent it back?

According to cyberian BRUSA will be on sale again at their webstore 31/3,
this time from interplay.

-
sam gabrielsson
[e-mail]
www.pcpinball.com

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From: "cypOrlando" <[e-mail]>
Subject: [PS] Fw: BRUSA order of 02/18/99
Date: 23 Mar 1999 01:45:28 -0500

what's a poor boy to do?

-----Original Message-----



Hello,

We expect to receive the item on 4/1/99.  But please keep in mind that
manufacturers and suppliers occasionally change their expected delivery
dates.  As the date approaches, you may want to check back with us to
see if there has been a delay.

Thank you for shopping at Outpost.com, the cool place to shop for
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Please see my message below to my pinball simulation pals at pinsim.

apparently i am the only one having trouble getting this program.  many

others have obtained from different sources including empire, the

manufacturer.  please help me resolve this problem ASAP as i am a new

outpost customer and would like to know that you care.  my order # is

W1087776.  hope to hear back from u soon.  Thx....ben



p.s. i'm ben Andy....thx for asking!



-----Original Message-----


<mailto:[e-mail]> >


[e-mail] <mailto:[e-mail]> >





>I ordered my copy from    www.outpost.com <http://www.outpost.com>

>on Feb 3 -- told it was on backorder and had it by the

>17th of February

>

>>From: "cypOrlando" < [e-mail]

<mailto:[e-mail]> >

>>Reply-To: [e-mail]
<mailto:[e-mail]>


>>To: < [e-mail] <mailto:[e-mail]> >

>>Subject: Re: [PS] Ordering BRUSA?

>>Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1999 19:22:26 -0500

>>

>>I ordered mine from outpost @ www.outpost.com
<http://www.outpost.com>

it was on backorder when

>i

>>ordered 02/18/98.  I called and they had no idea when it would be

>available.

>>I assume all the participants on the ladder r in europe....is that

>right?

>>they have on-line tracking i will be checking today.





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From: Sam Gabrielsson <[e-mail]>
Subject: [PS] brusa rulesheet
Date: 29 Mar 1999 01:12:35 +0200

just thought I'd send send a note that there's a rulesheet for brusa up at
http://attila.stevens-tech.edu/~emooney


-
sam gabrielsson
[e-mail]
www.pcpinball.com

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From: Andy Fielding <[e-mail]>
Subject: [PS] Got BRUSA!
Date: 30 Mar 1999 15:38:57 -0800

Yahoo!  (Ulp, sorry -- that was a general exclamation of happiness, not a
plug for the online service.)  BRUSA just arrived.

I ordered it from Playback.Com (located, logically enough, at
http://www.playback.com).  Someone here mentioned they got it at
Outpost.Com for $29.95.  However, when I asked Outpost, they said they were
out of stock.  Playback had it, and they matched the price.

Cheers,  Andy

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: [PS] Got BRUSA!
Date: 31 Mar 1999 08:54:12 EST

What is the cause of the delay with BRUSA being available in stores???

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From: [e-mail] (Adrian Barritt)
Subject: Re: [PS] Got BRUSA!
Date: 31 Mar 1999 15:21 BST

In-Reply-To: <[e-mail]>
> What is the cause of the delay with BRUSA being available in stores???

The delay was caused by changing over the distribution from GT to Interplay.

Ade - Cunning Developments.


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: [PS] Got BRUSA!
Date: 31 Mar 1999 09:43:25 EST

Any idea on when we can expect BRUSA to hit the shelves in the US... so I can
stop getting stupid looks when I ask about it? =)

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: [PS] Interplay Sign The Empire
Date: 31 Mar 1999 12:23:01 -0600

Looks like were going to have to wait even longer for BRUSA in the US.


--------
AM News: Interplay Sign The Empire

Interplay has struck an agreement with Empire Interactive to distribute
three titles through its North American retail channel.


March 31, 1999


Games under the agreement are Pro Pinball: Big Race USA, Apache Havoc, and
the Golf Pro bundle. "Interplay is pleased to have the opportunity to
distribute these superb Empire Interactive titles," enthused Phil Adam,
Vice President of Business Development. "We feel that our distribution
capabilities will assist these games in fulfilling their hit potential."
Mark Scriven, General Manager at Empire Interactive, added: "We believe
that Interplay has one of the most effective sales and marketing teams in
the business and has proven experience in delivering hit titles to the
trade. We are expecting great things from this relationship."

The three titles are expected to ship this Spring.





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From:  "Gregory A. Swarthout" <[e-mail]>
Subject: [PS] Play Pinball with the Predator
Date: 31 Mar 1999 16:50:36 -0700

Fox Interactive announced it has shipped FOX ARCADE: Sci-Fi Pinball on
Windows 95/98, Power Macintosh and iMac CD-ROM for a suggested retail price
of $29.95.  Developed by Gigawatt Studios, the game features five
distinctive pinball tables based on Fox's hottest sci-fi properties:  Buffy
the Vampire Slayer, Aliens, Predator, and The Fly, plus a bonus vintage Fly
table.

"We've leveraged four of Fox's strong sci-fi brands and used them as a
vehicle for delivering a fun, inexpensive pinball game that you can play at
home, in your office or on the road," said Jon Richmond, president, Fox
Interactive.

FOX ARCADE: SCI-FI PINBALL features full motion video clips and sounds bytes
from characters featured in Buffy the Vampire Slayer, Aliens, Predator and
The Fly movies.  Players have the ability to extend ball play off the table
as they are challenged by tunnels, alien flame throwers and mini games on
the side of each table.  The tables morph and, unlike other pinball games,
produce cool animations to generate pure excitement.  Multiple balls played
on one table will also quickly double or squelch a high score.


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