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movies-digest         Friday, October 29 1999         Volume 02 : Number 248



[MV] Top Five so far this year?
Re: [MV] War Movies
[MV] RE: (MV) Top Five so far this year?
[MV] Top Five so far this year?
Re: [MV] Fight Club
[MV] RE: (MV) Top Five so far this year?
[MV] RE: (MV) Fight Club
RE: [MV] Top Five so far this year?
RE: [MV] RE: (MV) Top Five so far this year?
RE: [MV] RE: (MV) Top Five so far this year?
Re: [MV] Fight Club
Re: [MV] RE: (MV) Top Five so far this year?
[MV] (no subject)
Re: [MV] (no subject)
[MV] RE: (MV) (no subject)
[MV] Re: Bringing Out the Dead
Re: [MV] Fight Club
[MV] Bringing out the Dead
Re: [MV] Bringing out the Dead
Re: [MV] Top Five so far this year?
RE: [MV] Bringing out the Dead
Re: [MV] Top Five so far this year?
RE: [MV] Bringing out the Dead
Re: [MV] Top Five so far this year?
Re: [MV] Re: Bringing Out the Dead
Re: [MV] Fight Club
Re: [MV] Fight Club
Re: [MV] Fight Club
Re: [MV] Fight Club
Re: [MV] Fight Club
Re: [MV] Fight Club
[MV] RE: (MV) Fight Club
[MV] Blair Witch

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Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 09:04:11 PDT
From: "Danielle Conkle" <[e-mail]>
Subject: [MV] Top Five so far this year?

>From: "Jacqueline Martin" <[e-mail]>
>My top 5 so far this year:
>
>1. American Beauty
>2. Fight Club
>3. Sixth Sense
>4. Three Kings
>5. The Blair Witch Project
>
>Jackie
- ---------
HEY!  This is kind of fun.  Can I hear what people's top "5" of the year are
so far?!

Mine? (not in any order)

1.) Fight Club
2.) Three Kings
3.) Eyes Wide Shut
4.) Go
5.) American Beauty

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Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 09:06:32 PDT
From: "Danielle Conkle" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: [MV] War Movies

>I didn't care for Three Kings. I was not in the gulf war but I thought this
>movie really stretched it.
>My personal fav war movie is Full Metal Jacket.


...actually I kind of liked how it was set in the gulf war.  (being a young
one...:) it was kind of fun watching a movie that took place in a war that I
actually lived through.

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Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 11:09:00 -0500
From: "Eldridge, Carla" <[e-mail]>
Subject: [MV] RE: (MV) Top Five so far this year?

     My top five movies so far are

     1.  American Beauty
     2.  Fight Club
     3.  Run, Lola, Run
     4.  Buena Vista Social Club
     5.  The Matrix

     Carla


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Date:    10/28/1999 11:04 AM


>From: "Jacqueline Martin" <[e-mail]>
>My top 5 so far this year:
>
>1. American Beauty
>2. Fight Club
>3. Sixth Sense
>4. Three Kings
>5. The Blair Witch Project
>
>Jackie
- ---------
HEY!  This is kind of fun.  Can I hear what people's top "5" of the year are

so far?!

Mine? (not in any order)

1.) Fight Club
2.) Three Kings
3.) Eyes Wide Shut
4.) Go
5.) American Beauty

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Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 09:26:53 PDT
From: "Danielle Conkle" <[e-mail]>
Subject: [MV] Top Five so far this year?

>      My top five movies so far are
>
>      1.  American Beauty
>      2.  Fight Club
>      3.  Run, Lola, Run
>      4.  Buena Vista Social Club
>      5.  The Matrix
>
>      Carla


Oh!  Matrix, I totally forgot, that would definitly go on my list.

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Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 09:28:34 PDT
From: "Steve F" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: [MV] Fight Club

Although I haven't actually seen Fight Club, the majority of the people I
have spoken to tell me it was horrible.  The way I see it, rating a movie,
any movie, is based entirely on one's personal preferences.  I was told that
was told that it was all fighting, no real story.  Personally, I think I
would enjoy that.  For those of us who say that a certain movie "sucked", or
was "crap", or any other comment of this nature, maybe we should rephrase
our responses to: "I prefer others".  Finally hearing somebody say that they
enjoyed it, makes me want to go see it for myself.  Thanks for the input
Danielle.


>From: "Danielle Conkle" <[e-mail]>
>Reply-To: [e-mail]
>To: [e-mail]
>Subject: [MV] Fight Club
>Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 09:00:54 PDT
>
>
>Hey what are people thinking of the movie Fight Club?  I think it's the
>best
>movie I've seen all year.
>
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Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 11:44:00 -0500
From: "Eldridge, Carla" <[e-mail]>
Subject: [MV] RE: (MV) Top Five so far this year?

     Other personal favorites from this year include

     South Park
     The Mummy
     Austin Powers, I and II

     They weren't the best movies ever made, but they were fun to watch.  I
     saw all three at the View and Brew, a movie house here in Chicago.
     With pizza, beer, and smokes, it was an enjoyable evening.

     Carla



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Author:  "Danielle Conkle" <SMTP:[e-mail]> at chicago1
Date:    10/28/1999 11:26 AM


>      My top five movies so far are
>
>      1.  American Beauty
>      2.  Fight Club
>      3.  Run, Lola, Run
>      4.  Buena Vista Social Club
>      5.  The Matrix
>
>      Carla


Oh!  Matrix, I totally forgot, that would definitly go on my list.

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Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 11:45:00 -0500
From: "Eldridge, Carla" <[e-mail]>
Subject: [MV] RE: (MV) Fight Club

     I'm with you Steve.  I went to see the Fight Club because of the
     fighting :)

     Carla


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Author:  "Steve F" <SMTP:[e-mail]> at chicago1
Date:    10/28/1999 11:28 AM


Although I haven't actually seen Fight Club, the majority of the people I
have spoken to tell me it was horrible.  The way I see it, rating a movie,
any movie, is based entirely on one's personal preferences.  I was told that

was told that it was all fighting, no real story.  Personally, I think I
would enjoy that.  For those of us who say that a certain movie "sucked", or

was "crap", or any other comment of this nature, maybe we should rephrase
our
responses to: "I prefer others".  Finally hearing somebody say that they
enjoyed it, makes me want to go see it for myself.  Thanks for the input
Danielle.


>From: "Danielle Conkle" <[e-mail]>
>Reply-To: [e-mail]
>To: [e-mail]
>Subject: [MV] Fight Club
>Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 09:00:54 PDT
>
>
>Hey what are people thinking of the movie Fight Club?  I think it's the
>best
>movie I've seen all year.
>
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Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 12:12:00 -0500
From: "Durham, Lisa" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: [MV] Top Five so far this year?

Waking Ned Devine
Run Lola Run
Gods & Monsters
Sixth Sense
The Mummy (I thought highly entertaining)

> -----Original Message-----
> From:    Danielle Conkle [SMTP:[e-mail]]
> Sent:    Thursday, October 28, 1999 11:04 AM
> To:    [e-mail]
> Subject:    [MV] Top Five so far this year?
>
>
>
>
> >From: "Jacqueline Martin" <[e-mail]>
> >My top 5 so far this year:
> >
> >1. American Beauty
> >2. Fight Club
> >3. Sixth Sense
> >4. Three Kings
> >5. The Blair Witch Project
> >
> >Jackie
> ---------
> HEY!  This is kind of fun.  Can I hear what people's top "5" of the year
> are
> so far?!
>
> Mine? (not in any order)
>
> 1.) Fight Club
> 2.) Three Kings
> 3.) Eyes Wide Shut
> 4.) Go
> 5.) American Beauty
>
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Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 12:13:38 -0500
From: "Durham, Lisa" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: [MV] RE: (MV) Top Five so far this year?

I have the soundtrack to BUENA VISTA SOCIAL CLUB and it is great!!!
Ry Cooder did a fine job getting this group of musicians together.

> -----Original Message-----
> From:    Eldridge, Carla [SMTP:[e-mail]]
> Sent:    Thursday, October 28, 1999 11:09 AM
> To:    "[e-mail]" ; "Danielle Conkle"
> Subject:    [MV] RE: (MV) Top Five so far this year?
>
>      My top five movies so far are
>
>      1.  American Beauty
>      2.  Fight Club
>      3.  Run, Lola, Run
>      4.  Buena Vista Social Club
>      5.  The Matrix
>
>      Carla
>
>
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> Subject: (MV) Top Five so far this year?
> Author:  "Danielle Conkle" <SMTP:[e-mail]> at chicago1
> Date:    10/28/1999 11:04 AM
>
>
> >From: "Jacqueline Martin" <[e-mail]>
> >My top 5 so far this year:
> >
> >1. American Beauty
> >2. Fight Club
> >3. Sixth Sense
> >4. Three Kings
> >5. The Blair Witch Project
> >
> >Jackie
> ---------
> HEY!  This is kind of fun.  Can I hear what people's top "5" of the year
> are
>
> so far?!
>
> Mine? (not in any order)
>
> 1.) Fight Club
> 2.) Three Kings
> 3.) Eyes Wide Shut
> 4.) Go
> 5.) American Beauty
>
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Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 12:15:33 -0500
From: "Durham, Lisa" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: [MV] RE: (MV) Top Five so far this year?

We have a theater-type lounge that offers the same here in Dallas.
I love it!!  Plus the admission is only $3.50

> -----Original Message-----
> From:    Eldridge, Carla [SMTP:[e-mail]]
> Sent:    Thursday, October 28, 1999 11:44 AM
> To:    "[e-mail]" ; "Danielle Conkle"
> Subject:    [MV] RE: (MV) Top Five so far this year?
>
>      Other personal favorites from this year include
>
>      South Park
>      The Mummy
>      Austin Powers, I and II
>
>      They weren't the best movies ever made, but they were fun to watch.
> I
>      saw all three at the View and Brew, a movie house here in Chicago.
>      With pizza, beer, and smokes, it was an enjoyable evening.
>
>      Carla
>
>
>
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> Subject: (MV) Top Five so far this year?
> Author:  "Danielle Conkle" <SMTP:[e-mail]> at chicago1
> Date:    10/28/1999 11:26 AM
>
>
> >      My top five movies so far are
> >
> >      1.  American Beauty
> >      2.  Fight Club
> >      3.  Run, Lola, Run
> >      4.  Buena Vista Social Club
> >      5.  The Matrix
> >
> >      Carla
>
>
> Oh!  Matrix, I totally forgot, that would definitly go on my list.
>
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Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 10:24:00 -0600
From: ("Paul D  Richardson") <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: [MV] Fight Club

> Although I haven't actually seen Fight Club, the majority of the people I
> have spoken to tell me it was horrible.
  [snip]
> I was told that it was all fighting, no real story.

Anybody who says FIGHT CLUB is all fighting with no real story has not seen
FIGHT CLUB.  The first fight doesn't even occur until about 1/3 of the way
into the film!

> The way I see it, rating a movie,
> any movie, is based entirely on one's personal preferences.

Of course, that's obvious.

> For those of us who say that a certain movie "sucked", or
> was "crap", or any other comment of this nature, maybe we should rephrase
> our responses to: "I prefer others".

I don't think so.  "I prefer others" is a pretty mild term, and not suitable
for all movies that we dislike.

For example, when it comes to THOMAS CROWN AFFAIR, I prefer other heist movies.

I STILL KNOW WHAT YOU DID LAST SUMMER, on the other hand, was a load of cow
dung.  There's 90 minutes of my life I'll never get back.  What a waste of
celluoid.  I wouldn't wish this movie on my worst enemy.  Even the title sucks!

Come to think of it, anybody could say "I prefer others" about all movies
they've seen, except for two.

> Finally hearing somebody say that they
> enjoyed it, makes me want to go see it for myself.

Look hard enough, you'll find somebody that enjoyed any movie out there.

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Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 13:19:55 CDT
From: "Wade Snider" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: [MV] RE: (MV) Top Five so far this year?

I almost hate to contribute to that top 5 list, as I have not yet been much
impressed by anything this year, at least certainly not like I was last
year. I will list my top 5, then a couple of others that almost make it.


1.Sixth Sense
2.Lock, Stock, & Two Smoking Barrels (I know it's a 98 technically, but it
didn't get to the US til March of this year)
3.Three Kings
4.October Sky
5.Payback

Some others that could interchange up here - The Matrix, Bringing Out the
dead, Austin Powers... I would actually top out this list with A Simple
Plan, as it didn't get in my town until January, but it is really a 98
release, so I'm not counting it here.

And I havent' seen fight club yet.. But I have seen American Beauty. Snore.




>      My top five movies so far are
>
>      1.  American Beauty
>      2.  Fight Club
>      3.  Run, Lola, Run
>      4.  Buena Vista Social Club
>      5.  The Matrix
>
>      Carla
>
>
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>Author:  "Danielle Conkle" <SMTP:[e-mail]> at chicago1
>Date:    10/28/1999 11:04 AM
>
>
> >From: "Jacqueline Martin" <[e-mail]>
> >My top 5 so far this year:
> >
> >1. American Beauty
> >2. Fight Club
> >3. Sixth Sense
> >4. Three Kings
> >5. The Blair Witch Project
> >
> >Jackie
>---------
>HEY!  This is kind of fun.  Can I hear what people's top "5" of the year
>are
>
>so far?!
>
>Mine? (not in any order)
>
>1.) Fight Club
>2.) Three Kings
>3.) Eyes Wide Shut
>4.) Go
>5.) American Beauty

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Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 14:31:32 -0400
From: Shaun Thacker <[e-mail]>
Subject: [MV] (no subject)

excuse me has anybody seen the new movie Bringing out the Dead?
I'd like to go see it but, I don't know if its any good.


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Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 14:40:35 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: [MV] (no subject)

[e-mail] writes:

<< excuse me has anybody seen the new movie Bringing out the Dead?
 I'd like to go see it but, I don't know if its any good. >>

  Why don't you go see the movie for yourself?  Don't judge movies that you
see off of what other people say, It's a matter of personal opinion.  I
really enjoyed the film, it had a great story and the acting was wonderful,
plus in my opinion Martin Scorsese is one of the best and hardly ever makes a
bad film.  But that is my opinion.

And for those people who say that Fight Club had no real story, did you sleep
through the whole film?  That movie was filled with so many messages, if you
couldn't find some of these messages you didn't pay a lot of attention to the
film.

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Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 14:14:00 -0500
From: "Eldridge, Carla" <[e-mail]>
Subject: [MV] RE: (MV) (no subject)

     I saw Bringing out the Dead and enjoyed it.  But I am a fan of Martin
     Scorsese, Cage and Ving.

     Carla


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[e-mail] writes:

<< excuse me has anybody seen the new movie Bringing out the Dead?
 I'd like to go see it but, I don't know if its any good. >>

  Why don't you go see the movie for yourself?  Don't judge movies that you
see off of what other people say, It's a matter of personal opinion.  I
really enjoyed the film, it had a great story and the acting was wonderful,
plus in my opinion Martin Scorsese is one of the best and hardly ever makes
a
bad film.  But that is my opinion.

And for those people who say that Fight Club had no real story, did you
sleep
through the whole film?  That movie was filled with so many messages, if you

couldn't find some of these messages you didn't pay a lot of attention to
the
film.

    Mr. Movie
    [e-mail]
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Date: Thu, 28 Oct 99 13:01:58 -0700
From: "David F. Nolan" <[e-mail]>
Subject: [MV] Re: Bringing Out the Dead

>[e-mail] writes:
>
><< excuse me has anybody seen the new movie Bringing out the Dead?
> I'd like to go see it but, I don't know if its any good. >>

FlickPicks (http://www.flickpicks.com) currently rates "Dead" at 2 stars
(out a possible 5) with highly mixed comments.  This places it 35th out
of 41 current films listed.

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Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 13:44:48 PDT
From: "Danielle Conkle" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: [MV] Fight Club

>I was told that
>was told that it was all fighting, no real story.  Personally, I think I
>would enjoy that.  For those of us who say that a certain movie

I actually wasn't planning on seeing Fight Club.  I too, just from seeing
the previews thought it was just going to be some boys beating each other
up.  But a friend of mine saw it, and (since he knows I see a lot of movies
:) came to me to talk about it....but of course I hadn't seen it...which is
how i ended up going to it. (yadda yadda, right?!)

I thought it did have a story.  Infact it actually gets a little "deep"
concerning society's materiality, and it has a great twist.  It's a little
disturbing, but I came out with all my expectations exceeded.  But maybe
that's the best way to go into a movie...not knowing that much about it, and
not expecting anything (much)!


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Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 13:48:24 PDT
From: "Danielle Conkle" <[e-mail]>
Subject: [MV] Bringing out the Dead

I heard Bringing out the Dead was terrible.  (But that could mean anything
really :)  So I don't plan on seeing it.  Anyone want to turn me around?

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Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 16:38:55 CDT
From: "Wade Snider" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: [MV] Bringing out the Dead

I think Bringing Out The Dead is actually pretty good. It's hard to call it
enjoyable or anything, as it is rather depressing and dark. BUT, it is an
amazingly crafted and acted film. Cage does a very good job as a burned out
edgy paramedic, as do all the supporting actors as his emt partners, John
Goodman as no nonsense and emotionally detached, Ving Rhames as
enthusiatically evangelical, and Tom Sizemore as joyously psychotic.

The plot is simple, basically Cage is an emt named Frank, and the movie
covers three days in his life, beginning with his hallucinations of a young
girl he failed to save a few months earlier, and transporting him across
those days in a complicated and interesting structure involving a young
woman whose father had a heart attack (Patricia Arquette), a dread-locked
schizophrenic (Marc Anthony), and a drug dealer (Cliff Curtis - He played
the Iraqi "rebel" in Three Kings). It's interesting that the movie
transverses across the days from dealing with these various characters
through Cage's diverging mental state along the lines of the kinds of
background for each differing emt partner's persona. The plot is not too
concrete, but the way it is presented and the way the movie ends sort of
compounds the feelings we are suposed to feel about Frank as a character I
think. Not going to reveal any specifics to you there.

There's humor, but it is often odd and dark and usually revolves around
Cage's various partners, such as Goodman's preoccupation with lunch, Rhames'
use of a drug OD as an excuse to preach to a group of teenage goths, and
Sizemore's impulses to intimidate those who call for the emts. Then of
course, there's the moanings and groanings of Cage, of which may be the
funniest part in the movie may be when he complains to his boss that he is
supposed to be fired for coming in late, and the boss tells him each day,
"I'll fire you tomorrow. I promise!" The humor is strange.. gallows humor
you could say.

And, when matched with the hyperkinetic frenzy of Scorcese's various shots,
it is hallucinatory in and of itself. There are some seriously strange and
bizarre shots and compositions in this movie, and it is quite appropriate or
accentuating to the concurring aspect of the plot. The movie itself seems
almost incongruous to Scorcese's style, but the overall mood and
cinematography is very characteristic of what we've seen from him. And, the
soundtrack - what an odd bird! Some great songs, but they seem so odd where
they are placed throught the movie, songs by REM, The Who, The Clash,
Sinatra, as well as the occasional bluesy instrumental background. I liked
the way the songs were scattered through the film.

If you want to see a Scorcese film, go see it. It's not action-comedy, or a
thriller; the commercials seem to try to paint it as a comedy of some sort,
but it's a serious drama with strange bits of humor and melodrama. It is not
a movie for everyone either. It's artistic and visually fascinating, and
there is an interesting structure to the premise and great acting, but it is
a rather depressing movie. If you want to see something entertaining, this
is not the movie. It's not a movie you will enjoy but one you will
appreciate. It is one to think about and mull over. Easily an 8 out of 10
from me. Maybe even better than that.

Wade


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>I heard Bringing out the Dead was terrible.  (But that could mean anything
>really :)  So I don't plan on seeing it.  Anyone want to turn me around?
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Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 23:12:04 +0100
From: Garrett Winters <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: [MV] Top Five so far this year?

If I had to put them in order of favorites I would have to say

Blair Witch Project
Matrix
Sixth Sense
South Park
Austin Powers II

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Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 18:32:53 -0700
From: "Movieman" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: [MV] Bringing out the Dead

Nah - I saw it and it was terrible...I am not a fan of Scorsese though my
friend is and we both walked away wondering why this film got made!!  Boring
and poor acting...I love movies - but this one left me yawning!


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> I heard Bringing out the Dead was terrible.  (But that could mean
> anything
> really :)  So I don't plan on seeing it.  Anyone want to turn me around?
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Date: Thu, 28 Oct 99 15:35:33 -0700
From: "David F. Nolan" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: [MV] Top Five so far this year?

My top five so far this year, in no particular order...

Run Lola Run
The Iron Giant
October Sky (maybe a '98 release?)
The Sixth Sense
The Matrix

(I haven't seen American Beauty or Three Kings yet)

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Date: Thu, 28 Oct 99 15:52:53 -0700
From: "David F. Nolan" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: [MV] Bringing out the Dead

>[e-mail] writes:
>
><< excuse me has anybody seen the new movie Bringing out the Dead?
> I'd like to go see it but, I don't know if its any good. >>

FlickPicks (http://www.flickpicks.com) currently rates "Dead" at 2 stars
(out a possible 5) with highly mixed comments.  This places it 35th out
of 41 current films listed.

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Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 19:01:46 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: [MV] Top Five so far this year?

Mine would be ...

American Beauty
Threee Kings
South Park: Bigger, Longer, and Uncut
The Sixth Sense
Star Wars: Episode 1

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Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 10:04:21 -0700
From: Oz <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: [MV] Re: Bringing Out the Dead

"David F. Nolan" wrote:
>
> FlickPicks currently rates "Dead" at 2 stars (out a possible 5)
> with highly mixed comments. This places it 35th out of 41 current
> films listed.

How bizarre. Hollywood Bitchslap (http://hollywoodbitchslap.com) has
Bringing Out The Dead at 4.43 out of a possible 5 stars, making it
second behind The Best Man in this week's releases, and number six
among all films currently in release. HBS also has two reviews of
the film at the following URL:
http://hollywoodbitchslap.com/hbs.cgi?movie=2240

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Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 18:44:11 PDT
From: "Steve F" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: [MV] Fight Club

>From: ("Paul D  Richardson") <[e-mail]>
>Reply-To: [e-mail]
>To: [e-mail]
>Subject: Re: [MV] Fight Club
>Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 10:24:00 -0600
>
>>I STILL KNOW WHAT YOU DID LAST SUMMER, on the other hand, was a load of
>>cow
>dung.  There's 90 minutes of my life I'll never get back.  What a waste of
>celluoid.  I wouldn't wish this movie on my worst enemy.  Even the title
>sucks!
>
I also didn't particularly enjoy that movie but, for those few who did,
calling it "cow dung", as you so elegantly put it, may make some people
offended.  This is the main reason I use the terms "I prefer others".
However, I must agree with you that it is a mild term and if you need to
express more vividly the amount of dismay a movie has brought upon you,
these would hardly be the proper words.  15-LOVE

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Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 11:52:46 -0700
From: Oz <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: [MV] Fight Club

Steve F wrote:
>
> I also didn't particularly enjoy that movie but, for those few who did,
> calling it "cow dung", as you so elegantly put it, may make some people
> offended.

You know what, dude? Screw people who get offended. There's nothing
that irks me more than people running around saying "you offended
me". We can't show any teenage violence because someone who knows
someone who was at Columbine will be offended. We can't swear
because someone who can't control their kid will be offended. We
can't question religion because The Catholic League will boycott us.

Screw people who take offence. Learn to ignore what you don't like.

I Still Know What You Did Last summer *was* cow dung. And you know
what else? It was utter gobshite. And it was total crap. And anyone,
anywhere who paid seven bucks to see it and came out thinking they
got their money's worth needs to strap in to a jacket with no
sleeves and dose up on the 'phine..

Offended? I'm offended people think they can get away with making
such drek.

PS: Offense given freely to those who choose to accept it.

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Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 18:59:54 PDT
From: "Steve F" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: [MV] Fight Club

>From: Oz <[e-mail]>
>Reply-To: [e-mail]
>To: [e-mail]
>Subject: Re: [MV] Fight Club
>Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 11:52:46 -0700
>
>
>You know what, dude? Screw people who get offended. We can't show any
>teenage violence because someone who knows
>someone who was at Columbine will be offended. We can't swear
>because someone who can't control their kid will be offended. We
>can't question religion because The Catholic League will boycott us.
>
>Screw people who take offence. Learn to ignore what you don't like.
>
>Offended? I'm offended people think they can get away with making
>such drek.
>
I admire your honesty.  You should hook up with Dennis Leary. You two would
make a good duo, but would probably agree on everything.  I sometimes wish I
thought like you do so I can express how I really feel, but I am one of
those that hold back.  Why?  You tell me.

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Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 12:05:40 -0700
From: Oz <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: [MV] Fight Club

Steve F wrote:
>
> I admire your honesty.  You should hook up with Dennis Leary. You two would
> make a good duo, but would probably agree on everything.

Nah, he's an asshole. Oh wait! Maybe you're right!

> I sometimes wish I
> thought like you do so I can express how I really feel, but I am one of
> those that hold back.  Why?  You tell me.

Because you're happy with the world the way it is and don't feel the
need to fight for change?
How am I doing?

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Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 00:30:29 -0400
From: "amr4225" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: [MV] Fight Club

Right on Oz!!!
Aramis

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Subject: Re: [MV] Fight Club


> Steve F wrote:
> >
> > I also didn't particularly enjoy that movie but, for those few who did,
> > calling it "cow dung", as you so elegantly put it, may make some people
> > offended.
>
> You know what, dude? Screw people who get offended. There's nothing
> that irks me more than people running around saying "you offended
> me". We can't show any teenage violence because someone who knows
> someone who was at Columbine will be offended. We can't swear
> because someone who can't control their kid will be offended. We
> can't question religion because The Catholic League will boycott us.
>
> Screw people who take offence. Learn to ignore what you don't like.
>
> I Still Know What You Did Last summer *was* cow dung. And you know
> what else? It was utter gobshite. And it was total crap. And anyone,
> anywhere who paid seven bucks to see it and came out thinking they
> got their money's worth needs to strap in to a jacket with no
> sleeves and dose up on the 'phine..
>
> Offended? I'm offended people think they can get away with making
> such drek.
>
> PS: Offense given freely to those who choose to accept it.
>
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Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 00:31:06 -0400
From: "amr4225" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: [MV] Fight Club

Steve:
I think he just did...:)
Aramis
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To: <[e-mail]>
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 1999 9:59 PM
Subject: Re: [MV] Fight Club


>
>
>
> >From: Oz <[e-mail]>
> >Reply-To: [e-mail]
> >To: [e-mail]
> >Subject: Re: [MV] Fight Club
> >Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 11:52:46 -0700
> >
> >
> >You know what, dude? Screw people who get offended. We can't show any
> >teenage violence because someone who knows
> >someone who was at Columbine will be offended. We can't swear
> >because someone who can't control their kid will be offended. We
> >can't question religion because The Catholic League will boycott us.
> >
> >Screw people who take offence. Learn to ignore what you don't like.
> >
> >Offended? I'm offended people think they can get away with making
> >such drek.
> >
> I admire your honesty.  You should hook up with Dennis Leary. You two
would
> make a good duo, but would probably agree on everything.  I sometimes wish
I
> thought like you do so I can express how I really feel, but I am one of
> those that hold back.  Why?  You tell me.
>
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Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 09:56:00 -0500
From: "Eldridge, Carla" <[e-mail]>
Subject: [MV] RE: (MV) Fight Club

     OZ,

     YOU ARE THE MAN!  Jesus Christ (and please don't anyone get offended
     by me using that phrase), it's like you read my mind!  Not only do I
     want to talk to you about movies, I want to have your children :)

     You kick ass!  Kudos.

     Carla, Q of U


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Date:    10/29/1999 1:52 PM


Steve F wrote:
>
> I also didn't particularly enjoy that movie but, for those few who did,
> calling it "cow dung", as you so elegantly put it, may make some people
> offended.

You know what, dude? Screw people who get offended. There's nothing
that irks me more than people running around saying "you offended
me". We can't show any teenage violence because someone who knows
someone who was at Columbine will be offended. We can't swear
because someone who can't control their kid will be offended. We
can't question religion because The Catholic League will boycott us.

Screw people who take offence. Learn to ignore what you don't like.

I Still Know What You Did Last summer *was* cow dung. And you know
what else? It was utter gobshite. And it was total crap. And anyone,
anywhere who paid seven bucks to see it and came out thinking they
got their money's worth needs to strap in to a jacket with no
sleeves and dose up on the 'phine..

Offended? I'm offended people think they can get away with making
such drek.

PS: Offense given freely to those who choose to accept it.

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Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 08:10:00 -0700
From: ("David M Hoptman") <[e-mail]>
Subject: [MV] Blair Witch

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Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 18:56:26 PDT
To: david.hoptman
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Subject: Blair Witch



>From: "Andy Piantanida" <[e-mail]>
>Reply-To: [e-mail]
>To: <[e-mail]>
>Subject: Horror: TBWP
>Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 11:55:28 -0500
>
>http://www.geocities.com/FashionAvenue/Salon/6989/BWP.html
>
>As you know, The Blair Witch Project is one of the scariest movies to have
>been released in years. Not scary, you say? I suggest you go watch it
>again!
>Pay attention this time!
>After I went to see the movie, I sat and thought about certain events that
>took place in the movie. I started getting spooked the more and more I
>thought about it. Yeah, it's not a "jump out of your seat" scary movie.
>It's
>one that gets into your head and makes you think. That is what I love the
>most about this movie. There are so many things that went unanswered and
>makes you wonder, "what the...?"
>I went out and bought "The Blair Witch Project: a Dossier". The book made
>the movie even scarier! It tells the legend of the Blair Witch and goes
>into
>more detail of what happened after Heather, Josh, and Mike disappeared.
>I wanted to share my thoughts and findings with everyone and show the
>"non-believers" that this movie is indeed scary.
>
>I wondered why Mike didn't turn around and help Heather when she came
>running down the stairs. How did he get up so fast after he was knocked
>down? Was he dead? I couldn't believe that he would just stand there and
>let
>whoever kill Heather. That scence ran through my head for 2 weeks after
>watching it. Who or what knocked them both down? Reading the book gave me a
>little insight of what happened. Here is what I found out.
>As you know, Rustin Parr killed 7 kids back in 1940. He had 2 in a room,
>both in opposite corners with their backs towards him so he couldn't feel
>their eyes on him as he killed the other child. They were not allowed to
>watch, but they did have to listen as he killed the other child. His method
>of murder..disembowelment. Rustin's reason for killing the children was
>that
>The Blair Witch told him to. He said that the Witch commanded how she
>wanted
>him to kill the children.
>If the Blair Witch did kill Heather, Josh, and Mike, that means that he was
>still alive when Heather came down the stairs and listened as she was
>disemboweled. That was how she instructed Rustin to kill the children. I am
>not sure what disemboweling a human in sacrificial ceremonies symbolizes,
>but that is how a lot of her victims ended up.
>Back in 1886, Robin Weaver came up missing. The town sent out search
>parties
>to find the missing girl. For some reason, she returns. But 5 members of
>the
>first search party were found tied together at the arms and legs. All of
>them were disemboweled.
>You all remember the Bible toting, 'crazy' Mary Brown? Well, after the
>students were missing, she told Buck Buchanan (the private investiator
>hired
>by Heather Donahue's mother) that she saw an apparition of Josh standing
>outside her trailer. She went on to say that he was screaming cause he was
>in a lot of pain. He was missing some teeth and was holding on to his side.
>He too was disemboweled just like the others. Speaking of Josh, it was
>Josh's voice they heard the first night he was missing and in the house at
>the end of the movie. I want to know how the hell he could scream, "Help
>me!!" with part of his jaw and tongue missing??!!
>You know the house Heather and Mike were in at the end of the movie? As it
>turns out, that was Rustin Parr's house. Carlos Sonenburg, who helped Buck
>Buchanan in the investigation, found an old magazine article about Kyle
>Brody. Rustin let Kyle go claiming the voices told him Kyle "wasn't on of
>them". I still don't know what that means, but anyway. In the article,
>there
>were pictures of the wall with all the hand prints and heiroglyphics. The
>same wall that was filmed by Heather and Mike. Carlos pointed out that it
>was impossible for them to have been in that house since it had burned down
>back in 1941. How the hell did they get there if the house didn't exsist?
>Why was their footage found in a totally different location? The footage
>was
>found underneath a house by some anthropology students. Get this. The
>footage was found inside a wall that was over 150 years old. The wall the
>backpack was found in and foundation of the house had been untouched before
>the students began their dig. The house was believed to be a way station
>for
>mothers and their children back in the civil war. How did the backpack get
>into the wall? You have to admit this is some pretty spooky stuff?!
>
>Going back to Mary brown. She spoke of her experience with the Blair Witch
>to Heather at the beginning of the movie. She described her as being hairy
>and somewhat beast-like. Mary thought it was strange that her feet never
>touched the ground and seemed to 'float about'. Here is my insight on that.
>You remember the stick figures they discovered hanging in the woods? The
>biggest of the figures is or just symbolizes the Blair Witch. It looked
>just
>like what Mary had described. All of the little figures represent all her
>sacrifices. The 'X' on all of the little figures is Futhark for "sacrifice
>or gift". Futhark is an old European language that dates back to 100b.c.
>The
>symbols that were in the house was also Futhark. By the way, when asked if
>Rustin had put the handprints on the wall and made the symbols, he said
>that
>he didn't put them there. The Blair Witch did.
>
>As you can see, there were alot of questions left unanswered. I have always
>found the unknown scary. We all do to a certain degree. That is what makes
>this movie so frightening. Maybe the Blair Witch was the one who killed off
>Heather and Mike. Just knowing that an entity, with no physical body, could
>make a grown man stand in a corner, listen to his friend get slaughtered,
>and do nothing to escape really frightens me. I still wonder what happened
>to Heather, Josh, and Mike? Where did their bodies go? Who put the rock
>piles outside their tent? What ever happened to the bodies of the first
>search party after they disappeared from the rock? Why were there children
>out in the middle of the woods in the middle of the night? Why was the only
>backpack that was slimed Josh's? How could they walk south all day and end
>up right back where they started? What happened to the cameras that were
>used? What happened to the rest o their stuff? What does the Blair Witch
>look like? What were those God-awful sounds every night in the woods?
>
>Too many questions..Not enough answers!!
>
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