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movies-digest        Thursday, October 28 1999        Volume 02 : Number 247



Re: [MV] Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 08:54:10 EDT
Re: [MV] Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 08:54:10 EDT
[MV] Test, Please Ignore
[MV] Test, Please Ignore
[MV] Girl Interupted
[MV] Double Jeopardy
RE: [MV] Girl Interupted
[MV] War Movies
[MV] RE: (MV) Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 08:54:10 EDT
[MV] RE: (MV) War Movies
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[MV] Fight Club

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Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 09:21:23 -0600
From: "Gregory A. Swarthout" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: [MV] Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 08:54:10 EDT

From: Gene Ehrich <[e-mail]>

>I know an interesting movie when I see it. I also know a steaming
>pile of cack when I see it, and that's what Double Jeopardy was.
>Look past the smoke and mirrors, Patricia.
>Oh, never mind. Just go see American Beauty. Now *THAT* is
>interesting.

I agree that American Beauty was a much better movie from a technical
standpoint and Double Jeopardy was so full of holes in the story etc.
HOWEVER, my wife and I both enjoyed Double Jeopardy much more of the two.
It was just a more fun movie. They were both good but Jeopardy was better.
I was very pleasantly surprised with it.

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Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 09:21:23 -0600
From: "Gregory A. Swarthout" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: [MV] Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 08:54:10 EDT

From: Gene Ehrich <[e-mail]>

>I know an interesting movie when I see it. I also know a steaming
>pile of cack when I see it, and that's what Double Jeopardy was.
>Look past the smoke and mirrors, Patricia.
>Oh, never mind. Just go see American Beauty. Now *THAT* is
>interesting.

I agree that American Beauty was a much better movie from a technical
standpoint and Double Jeopardy was so full of holes in the story etc.
HOWEVER, my wife and I both enjoyed Double Jeopardy much more of the two.
It was just a more fun movie. They were both good but Jeopardy was better.
I was very pleasantly surprised with it.

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Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 09:11:02 -0600
From: "Gregory A. Swarthout" <[e-mail]>
Subject: [MV] Test, Please Ignore

I said "please."

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Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 09:11:02 -0600
From: "Gregory A. Swarthout" <[e-mail]>
Subject: [MV] Test, Please Ignore

I said "please."

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Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 12:52:00 -0700
From: ("David M Hoptman") <[e-mail]>
Subject: [MV] Girl Interupted

I saw a sneak preview of a really good new movie.It's called "Girl Interupted"
which stars Winona Ryder as the
main character,a disturbed young woman who is checked into a mental
institution.It's a little like a female
version of One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest and co-stars Angela Jolie,and many
other familiar faces which I
can't remember.----Dave


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Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 12:58:28 -0700
From: "Jacqueline Martin" <[e-mail]>
Subject: [MV] Double Jeopardy

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I have to give it to that film, it was somewhat entertaining, but I =
could not get past the intelligence-insulting plot. And having 2 people, =
that are supposedly versed on the law, advise this woman that she can go =
and kill her husband, because the state already convicted her of it. =
Tommy Lee Jones needs to read other scripts and stop chasing people! It =
was rather laughable...It is not the worst movie this year, but it is =
not better than American Beauty.=20
My top 5 so far this year:

1. American Beauty
2. Fight Club
3. Sixth Sense
4. Three Kings
5. The Blair Witch Project

Jackie

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Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 15:00:53 -0500
From: [e-mail]
Subject: RE: [MV] Girl Interupted

I recently rented a movie called Waterdance which is also like Cukoo's nest.


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> I saw a sneak preview of a really good new movie.It's called "Girl
> Interupted"
> which stars Winona Ryder as the
> main character,a disturbed young woman who is checked into a mental
> institution.It's a little like a female
> version of One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest and co-stars Angela Jolie,and
> many
> other familiar faces which I
> can't remember.----Dave
>
>
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Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 15:13:25 -0500
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Subject: [MV] War Movies

I didn't care for Three Kings. I was not in the gulf war but I thought this
movie really stretched it.
My personal fav war movie is Full Metal Jacket.

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Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 09:07:00 -0500
From: "Eldridge, Carla" <[e-mail]>
Subject: [MV] RE: (MV) Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 08:54:10 EDT

     When the previews for the Judd movie first came out, I knew that I
     didn't want to see it because in less than 30 seconds I knew that
     Ashley Judd had been framed for the murder of husband, goes to jail,
     meets a lawyer in jail (good place for them), gets out of jail, and
     successfully meets up with hr husband and happens to have Tommy Lee
     Jones there with her.  There was no thrill left because I knew Ashley
     would be triumphant.

     After reading Oz's rather intellectual break down of some of the
     scenes, I know I don't want to see it unless it's on tape so I can
     fast forward through to the more "meaty" parts.  Why pay $8.00 for a
     thriller where I know the ending?  Just wait till it hits Blockbuster
     and see for $1.99.

     If you want to see a thriller, rent Diabolique (French version).  It's
     got women as the lead characters, an adulterous affair, murder, and a
     twist ending.  Or for a very strong female lead character, check out
     Lena Olin in Romeo's Bleeding.  She is fabulous!

     Carla


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Subject: Re: (MV) Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 08:54:10 EDT
Author:  "Oz" <SMTP:[e-mail]> at chicago1
Date:    10/27/1999 12:54 PM


[e-mail] wrote:
>
>     I do also agree with what Patricia had to say about the discussion and

> the movie, I rather enjoyed to movie and I would see it again.

Good lord, why? You know the ending!

> It was one
> that make me think and wonder what she was going to do next. I thought
that
> it was a movie that not all persons would relate with (men) manly and that

> being that I don't think that men can relate every well with a head strong
> women who is willing to take things into her own hands to get something
done.

Okay, I'll list the reasons this movie was a stinkbomb. Perhaps
they're reasons that matter to me and not to most folks, but
regardless, here's my list.

The cliches (potential spoilers, but not really):
1. The burnt out old cop with no heart, no ambition and a drinking
problem? Gee, do ya think he'll loosen up at some point? Jackie
Brown anyone?
2. The arrogant young boss cop who yells down the phone continually
"you get your ass back to Detroit!" Beverly Hills Cop anyone?
3. The scenes where Ashley Judd decides she's gonna be a tough momma
and starts working out. Geez, we saw this crap in Terminator, GI
Jane, Officer And A Gentleman. Having her cellmate watching her
jogging in the rain and yelling "you ain't runnin' on nothin' but
pure hatred, girl!" was the funniest part of the movie. Is this to
indicate she's a "strong woman"? I don't know. I'm a man, we can't
see these things.
4. The bumbling old crusty art delaer who doesn't have a clue what
all the fuss is about.
5. The evil businessman husband who pretends to be nice. To attempt
to portray him as nice we're introduced to him at a fundraiser for a
"children's school". As opposed to a senior citizens' school, I
guess. Lamo. Easy option.
6. Of the thousands of inmates at the prison, Ashley just happens to
befriend a lawyer. Oh please. It's more likely she'd befriend an
axe-wielding lesbian with one eye.
7. It seems that with one click on the internet you can get the
names, addresses and phone numbers of every teacher in America.
Someone should keep that information away from the kids.
8. ***SPOILER!*** When the bad guy captures Ashley, he doesn't kill
her, he just locks her away. Zzzz. How very James Bond.
9. ***SPOILER*** Being chased through a crowd of people, cops on her
tail, twisting, turning, diving around every corner, losing her,
seeing her again, they finally get close and spin the woman with the
red umbrella around... do you REALLY think it's Ashley? Seriously,
do ya? I mean, have you ever seen another movie, ever? This cliche
is used ALL the time. I spotted it coming a mile and a half away.
10. ***SPOILER*** Ashley wakes on the boat, covered in blood,
stumbles through the boat wondering where her hubby has gone, finds
her way to the top deck, spots a bloodied knife on the deck, PICKS
IT UP (maybe she thought her husband was underneath it.. or
something) juuuuuuuust as the coast guard boat arrives. Wow, what
neat timing.
11. ***SPOILER*** When Ashley is cuffed to her door handle on the
car ferry and starts reversing and forwarding the car to try to
break the handle on a protruding boat pipe (how coincidental) she's
bashing into other cars, even pushes one of the front of the boat
into the water, but NOBODY hears or sees anything suspicious. Oh
come on.

Wake up people, this wasn't a thriller. Yes, it was suspenseful in
parts, but thrilling? Not a once. It was cack. I give it 1 star.

If you want to see a movie that portrays a strong woman, go rent
Betty Blue. Or Thelma and Louise. Or Once Were Warriors.

But running around a prisonyard in the rain does not make a woman
strong. It makes her wet.

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Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 17:21:00 -0500
From: "Eldridge, Carla" <[e-mail]>
Subject: [MV] RE: (MV) War Movies

     I really enjoyed Das Boot and Apocalypse Now.


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I didn't care for Three Kings. I was not in the gulf war but I thought this
movie really stretched it.
My personal fav war movie is Full Metal Jacket.

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Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 15:40:00 -0700
From: ("David M Hoptman") <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE:[MV] RE: (MV) War Movies

I don't usually like war movies,but a couple great ones I remember from when i
was a kid are "Force 10 From
Navarone" w/Harrison Ford and also "The Wild Geese" starring Roger
moore.---Dave

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     I really enjoyed Das Boot and Apocalypse Now.


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I didn't care for Three Kings. I was not in the gulf war but I thought this
movie really stretched it.
My personal fav war movie is Full Metal Jacket.

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Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 08:44:15 -0700
From: Oz <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: [MV] FW:Fwd:Fwd:Fwd:fwd:fwd:fffffffffwd...

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Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 18:53:55 -0400
From: "amr4225" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: RE:[MV] RE: (MV) War Movies

I don't usually like war movies either but there are a couple I have liked -
Apocalypse Now, Platoon and A Force of Arms.  The Counterfeit Traitor is
also good - though it's more of an espionage take on the business of WWII.
Most recently though I enjoyed The Thin Red Line.  10X better than Saving
Private Ryan.
Aramis
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> I don't usually like war movies,but a couple great ones I remember from
when i
> was a kid are "Force 10 From
> Navarone" w/Harrison Ford and also "The Wild Geese" starring Roger
> moore.---Dave
>
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>      I really enjoyed Das Boot and Apocalypse Now.
>
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>
> I didn't care for Three Kings. I was not in the gulf war but I thought
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> movie really stretched it.
> My personal fav war movie is Full Metal Jacket.
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Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 17:55:00 -0500
From: "Eldridge, Carla" <[e-mail]>
Subject: [MV] RE: (MV) RE: (MV) War Movies

     And I just thought of another "war" movie...more along the lines of
     the cold war:  The Third Man.  Absolutley love it.

     Carla




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I don't usually like war movies either but there are a couple I have liked -

Apocalypse Now, Platoon and A Force of Arms.  The Counterfeit Traitor is
also good - though it's more of an espionage take on the business of WWII.
Most recently though I enjoyed The Thin Red Line.  10X better than Saving
Private Ryan.
Aramis
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> I don't usually like war movies,but a couple great ones I remember from
when i
> was a kid are "Force 10 From
> Navarone" w/Harrison Ford and also "The Wild Geese" starring Roger
> moore.---Dave
>
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>      I really enjoyed Das Boot and Apocalypse Now.
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> I didn't care for Three Kings. I was not in the gulf war but I thought
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> My personal fav war movie is Full Metal Jacket.
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Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 16:09:00 -0700
From: ("David M Hoptman") <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: [MV] FW:Fwd:Fwd:Fwd:fwd:fwd:fffffffffwd...

Well Excuuuuuuuusssssssss Meeeeeeeeeeee Ozzzzzzzyyyy!!!  I didn't know it was
already posted.


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Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 18:15:00 -0500
From: "Eldridge, Carla" <[e-mail]>
Subject: [MV] RE: (MV) FW:Fwd:Fwd:Fwd:fwd:fwd:fffffffffwd...

     I expected to have discussions with others via e-mail about movies at
     this site.  What I wasn't expecting was to occasionally get a good
     laugh as well.  Today's exchanges have been great.

     To the "Excuuuuuuuusssssssss Meeeeeeeeeeee Ozzzzzzzyyyy" dude:  thanks
     for sending me home with a smile on my face!  Peace out,

     Carla


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Well Excuuuuuuuusssssssss Meeeeeeeeeeee Ozzzzzzzyyyy!!!  I didn't know it
was
already posted.


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Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 10:22:52 +0100
From: MARK <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: RE:[MV] RE: (MV) War Movies

To call Thin Red Line 10x better than Saving Private Ryan is ill-judged
(In my opinion).  The two films were 10x different from each other, but
both conveyed the message of the horror of war.  My personal fave is
Thin Red Line, down to content and execution, however, you cannot negate
the brilliance of Spielbergs' Private Ryan, and the Omaha  Beach opening
attack will truly stand out as a classic piece of cinema.

Mark

> -----Original Message-----
> From:    amr4225 [SMTP:[e-mail]]
> Sent:    27 October 1999 23:54
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> Subject:    Re: RE:[MV] RE: (MV) War Movies
>
> I don't usually like war movies either but there are a couple I have
> liked -
> Apocalypse Now, Platoon and A Force of Arms.  The Counterfeit Traitor
> is
> also good - though it's more of an espionage take on the business of
> WWII.
> Most recently though I enjoyed The Thin Red Line.  10X better than
> Saving
> Private Ryan.
> Aramis
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "David M Hoptman" <[e-mail]>
> To: <[e-mail]>
> Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 1999 6:40 PM
> Subject: RE:[MV] RE: (MV) War Movies
>
>
> > I don't usually like war movies,but a couple great ones I remember
> from
> when i
> > was a kid are "Force 10 From
> > Navarone" w/Harrison Ford and also "The Wild Geese" starring Roger
> > moore.---Dave
> >
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> >      I really enjoyed Das Boot and Apocalypse Now.
> >
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> >
> >
> > I didn't care for Three Kings. I was not in the gulf war but I
> thought
> this
> > movie really stretched it.
> > My personal fav war movie is Full Metal Jacket.
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Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 04:45:32 -0400
From: "amr4225" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: RE:[MV] RE: (MV) War Movies

Mark:
I agree with you 100% - they are different films.  It was a poor choice of
words on my part.  Let's just say I PREFER The Thin Red Line 10x over Saving
Private Ryan.
Aramis

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> To call Thin Red Line 10x better than Saving Private Ryan is ill-judged
> (In my opinion).  The two films were 10x different from each other, but
> both conveyed the message of the horror of war.  My personal fave is
> Thin Red Line, down to content and execution, however, you cannot negate
> the brilliance of Spielbergs' Private Ryan, and the Omaha  Beach opening
> attack will truly stand out as a classic piece of cinema.
>
> Mark
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: amr4225 [SMTP:[e-mail]]
> > Sent: 27 October 1999 23:54
> > To: [e-mail]
> > Subject: Re: RE:[MV] RE: (MV) War Movies
> >
> > I don't usually like war movies either but there are a couple I have
> > liked -
> > Apocalypse Now, Platoon and A Force of Arms.  The Counterfeit Traitor
> > is
> > also good - though it's more of an espionage take on the business of
> > WWII.
> > Most recently though I enjoyed The Thin Red Line.  10X better than
> > Saving
> > Private Ryan.
> > Aramis
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "David M Hoptman" <[e-mail]>
> > To: <[e-mail]>
> > Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 1999 6:40 PM
> > Subject: RE:[MV] RE: (MV) War Movies
> >
> >
> > > I don't usually like war movies,but a couple great ones I remember
> > from
> > when i
> > > was a kid are "Force 10 From
> > > Navarone" w/Harrison Ford and also "The Wild Geese" starring Roger
> > > moore.---Dave
> > >
> > > ------------------( Forwarded letter 1 follows )--------------------
> > > Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 17:21:00 -0500
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> > > Sender: [e-mail]
> > > Reply-To: [e-mail]
> > > Subject: [MV] RE: (MV) War Movies
> > >
> > >      I really enjoyed Das Boot and Apocalypse Now.
> > >
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> > >
> > > chicago1
> > > Date:    10/27/1999 3:13 PM
> > >
> > >
> > > I didn't care for Three Kings. I was not in the gulf war but I
> > thought
> > this
> > > movie really stretched it.
> > > My personal fav war movie is Full Metal Jacket.
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Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 09:00:07 CDT
From: "Wade Snider" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: [MV] RE: (MV) War Movies

Both excellent movies! I just watched Apocalypse Now again last weekend on
Encore. Amazing movie. It's also hilarious to see Lawrence Fishburne as a
punk teenager. There are so many good things about that movie, which is not
a typical war movie, which is what makes it so good.

I personally liked Three Kings. It's hard to call it much of a war movie,
especially since the war was basically over during the movie's plot. But, it
is still set there at that time. I enjoyed the movie quite a bit. Very funny
and some fascinating direction.


>
>      I really enjoyed Das Boot and Apocalypse Now.
>
>
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>
>I didn't care for Three Kings. I was not in the gulf war but I thought this
>movie really stretched it.
>My personal fav war movie is Full Metal Jacket.
>

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Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 09:04:40 CDT
From: "Wade Snider" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE:[MV] RE: (MV) War Movies

SPOLIER FOR FORCE 10 FROM NAVARONE!













I think one of the funniest scenes I can remember in a war movie is after
Ford and the other character (was it Edward fox's? I don't remember) blew
the bomb in the dam and then ran out of there, right past some german
soldiers, who were startled by them at first then turned and ran right
behind them when they heard the dam begin to break. I laughed so hard at
that.


>I don't usually like war movies,but a couple great ones I remember from
>when i
>was a kid are "Force 10 From
>Navarone" w/Harrison Ford and also "The Wild Geese" starring Roger
>moore.---Dave
>
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>Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 17:21:00 -0500
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>Sender: [e-mail]
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>      I really enjoyed Das Boot and Apocalypse Now.
>
>
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>
>I didn't care for Three Kings. I was not in the gulf war but I thought this
>movie really stretched it.
>My personal fav war movie is Full Metal Jacket.

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Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 08:53:23 -0500 (CDT)
From: Mark Waelterman  <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: [MV] RE: (MV) War Movies

On Thu, 28 Oct 1999, Wade Snider wrote:
> I personally liked Three Kings. It's hard to call it much of a war movie,
> especially since the war was basically over during the movie's plot. But, it
> is still set there at that time. I enjoyed the movie quite a bit. Very funny
> and some fascinating direction.

when i first saw the previews for "three kings", i wasnt very interested
in it, although i was astonished to see that it was directed by david o.
russell - he directed "spanking the monkey", which is a very bizarre
movie, and "flirting with disaster" with ben stiller and patricia
arquette, and alan alda as an lsd-cook, which is a hilarious movie.  it
just didnt seem like anything russell would make - similar to my
astonishment at seeing previews for "out of sight", which wasnt what i
would have expected from steven soderbergh, especially after
"schizopolis".

but i think i am going to eventually check out "three kings".


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Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 09:15:47 CDT
From: "Wade Snider" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: RE:[MV] RE: (MV) War Movies

Good Call. They are very different movies. TRL is a much more
metaphysical-ish (hahaha) type of movie, more existential in how the
characters and plots interwine. It is a very complex movie, and it has some
amazing shots. I actually like some of the battle scenes in this movie
better than SPR, but that is because I like the sort of eerie majestic
nature and colorful depiction of it, as opposed to the overwhelming chaos
and fear in SPR (which is less artistic in a certain way but certainly more
realistic). But, I like SPR better I think, and I found it a tremendous
experience.

>
>To call Thin Red Line 10x better than Saving Private Ryan is ill-judged
>(In my opinion).  The two films were 10x different from each other, but
>both conveyed the message of the horror of war.  My personal fave is
>Thin Red Line, down to content and execution, however, you cannot negate
>the brilliance of Spielbergs' Private Ryan, and the Omaha  Beach opening
>attack will truly stand out as a classic piece of cinema.
>
>Mark
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From:    amr4225 [SMTP:[e-mail]]
> > Sent:    27 October 1999 23:54
> > To:    [e-mail]
> > Subject:    Re: RE:[MV] RE: (MV) War Movies
> >
> > I don't usually like war movies either but there are a couple I have
> > liked -
> > Apocalypse Now, Platoon and A Force of Arms.  The Counterfeit Traitor
> > is
> > also good - though it's more of an espionage take on the business of
> > WWII.
> > Most recently though I enjoyed The Thin Red Line.  10X better than
> > Saving
> > Private Ryan.
> > Aramis
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "David M Hoptman" <[e-mail]>
> > To: <[e-mail]>
> > Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 1999 6:40 PM
> > Subject: RE:[MV] RE: (MV) War Movies
> >
> >
> > > I don't usually like war movies,but a couple great ones I remember
> > from
> > when i
> > > was a kid are "Force 10 From
> > > Navarone" w/Harrison Ford and also "The Wild Geese" starring Roger
> > > moore.---Dave
> > >
> > > ------------------( Forwarded letter 1 follows )--------------------
> > > Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 17:21:00 -0500
> > > To: [e-mail], [e-mail], [e-mail],
> > >  [e-mail]
> > > From: Carla.Eldridge[CEldridge]@sandc.com
> > > Sender: [e-mail]
> > > Reply-To: [e-mail]
> > > Subject: [MV] RE: (MV) War Movies
> > >
> > >      I really enjoyed Das Boot and Apocalypse Now.
> > >
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> > > Subject: (MV) War Movies
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> > at
> > >
> > > chicago1
> > > Date:    10/27/1999 3:13 PM
> > >
> > >
> > > I didn't care for Three Kings. I was not in the gulf war but I
> > thought
> > this
> > > movie really stretched it.
> > > My personal fav war movie is Full Metal Jacket.
> > >
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Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 09:12:00 -0500
From: "Eldridge, Carla" <[e-mail]>
Subject: [MV] RE: (MV) RE: (MV) War Movies

     My favorite scenes from Apocalypse Now are: Duval and his men are
     flying in their helicopters.  Wagner's Ride of the Valkyre is blasting
     in the background as the camera zooms in on the gun turrets in time
     with the music.  The second one is when Duval and his men are going
     out to catch a wave during the fighting.

     Have you seen the documentary Hearts of Darkness that Coppola's wife
     shot.  It's a nice follow up to Apocalypse Now.

     Carla


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Both excellent movies! I just watched Apocalypse Now again last weekend on
Encore. Amazing movie. It's also hilarious to see Lawrence Fishburne as a
punk teenager. There are so many good things about that movie, which is not
a typical war movie, which is what makes it so good.

I personally liked Three Kings. It's hard to call it much of a war movie,
especially since the war was basically over during the movie's plot. But, it

is still set there at that time. I enjoyed the movie quite a bit. Very funny

and some fascinating direction.


>
>      I really enjoyed Das Boot and Apocalypse Now.
>
>
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>
>chicago1
>Date:    10/27/1999 3:13 PM
>
>
>I didn't care for Three Kings. I was not in the gulf war but I thought this

>movie really stretched it.
>My personal fav war movie is Full Metal Jacket.
>

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Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 09:29:06 CDT
From: "Wade Snider" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: [MV] RE: (MV) War Movies

>On Thu, 28 Oct 1999, Wade Snider wrote:
> > I personally liked Three Kings. It's hard to call it much of a war
>movie,
> > especially since the war was basically over during the movie's plot.
>But, it
> > is still set there at that time. I enjoyed the movie quite a bit. Very
>funny
> > and some fascinating direction.
>
>when i first saw the previews for "three kings", i wasnt very interested
>in it, although i was astonished to see that it was directed by david o.
>russell - he directed "spanking the monkey", which is a very bizarre
>movie, and "flirting with disaster" with ben stiller and patricia
>arquette, and alan alda as an lsd-cook, which is a hilarious movie.  it
>just didnt seem like anything russell would make - similar to my
>astonishment at seeing previews for "out of sight", which wasnt what i
>would have expected from steven soderbergh, especially after
>"schizopolis".
>
>but i think i am going to eventually check out "three kings".

I enjoyed Flirting with Disaster too for the most part, and yeah, it is hard
to believe that this is the same director. It is a WILDLY different style,
although the characters in Three Kings are written fairly well. The thing i
was trying to say I think is that is barely a war movie, but it still sort
of fits that category, since it deals with the gulf war and its aspects.
It's sort of a caper-buddy movie but even that's too simplistic, and more
about some american soldiers seeing the gulf war from some of the iraqi
population's standpoint. It has some moral issues and all, and it gets a
little melodramatic (barely), but it has some GREAT dialogue, funny
observations, good acting, some amazing direction, basically a very witty
and well done movie, much more intelligent than many people realize.

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Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 22:57:50 +0100
From: MARK <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: [MV] RE: (MV) War Movies

Not strictly a war film, but a film set in wartime, has anyone seen "The
Hill" starring Sean Connery.  From what I can remember it is a truly
gripping film, regarding an army Prison (I think, it has been many years
since I last saw it).

MARK

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> From:    Wade Snider [SMTP:[e-mail]]
> Sent:    28 October 1999 15:29
> To:    [e-mail]
> Subject:    Re: [MV] RE: (MV) War Movies
>
> >On Thu, 28 Oct 1999, Wade Snider wrote:
> > > I personally liked Three Kings. It's hard to call it much of a war
>
> >movie,
> > > especially since the war was basically over during the movie's
> plot.
> >But, it
> > > is still set there at that time. I enjoyed the movie quite a bit.
> Very
> >funny
> > > and some fascinating direction.
> >
> >when i first saw the previews for "three kings", i wasnt very
> interested
> >in it, although i was astonished to see that it was directed by david
> o.
> >russell - he directed "spanking the monkey", which is a very bizarre
> >movie, and "flirting with disaster" with ben stiller and patricia
> >arquette, and alan alda as an lsd-cook, which is a hilarious movie.
> it
> >just didnt seem like anything russell would make - similar to my
> >astonishment at seeing previews for "out of sight", which wasnt what
> i
> >would have expected from steven soderbergh, especially after
> >"schizopolis".
> >
> >but i think i am going to eventually check out "three kings".
>
> I enjoyed Flirting with Disaster too for the most part, and yeah, it
> is hard
> to believe that this is the same director. It is a WILDLY different
> style,
> although the characters in Three Kings are written fairly well. The
> thing i
> was trying to say I think is that is barely a war movie, but it still
> sort
> of fits that category, since it deals with the gulf war and its
> aspects.
> It's sort of a caper-buddy movie but even that's too simplistic, and
> more
> about some american soldiers seeing the gulf war from some of the
> iraqi
> population's standpoint. It has some moral issues and all, and it gets
> a
> little melodramatic (barely), but it has some GREAT dialogue, funny
> observations, good acting, some amazing direction, basically a very
> witty
> and well done movie, much more intelligent than many people realize.
>
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Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 09:00:54 PDT
From: "Danielle Conkle" <[e-mail]>
Subject: [MV] Fight Club

Hey what are people thinking of the movie Fight Club?  I think it's the best
movie I've seen all year.

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