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Re: [MV] Fw: You have been warned...
Re: [MV] Fw: You have been warned...
[none]
[MV] Hollywood Online Weekly Dispatch
RE: [MV] end credits
Re: RE: [MV] end credits
[MV] Re: Pox Virii
Re: [MV] Re: Pox Virii
Re: [MV] Re: Pox Virii+ Freddy vs Jason
[MV] Pox Virii renewed
[none]
Re: [MV] Pox Virii renewed
[MV] Re:Attachments
Re: [MV] Re: Freddy vs Jason
Re: [MV] Re: Freddy vs Jason
Re: [MV] Re:Attachments
Re: [MV] Pox Virii renewed
[MV] Predator Vs Alien (was Freddy VS Jason)
[MV] Movie News - 11/25/98

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Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 20:50:23 -0700
From: Bill Code <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: [MV] Fw: You have been warned...

>At 02.42 AM 24/11/98 PST, Rebecca Bezant wrote:
>>if you think this is a hoax, then why dont you download the virus your
>self and email us back(on which ever computer it may be) and tell us how it
>went, it is the people right to be known of something, cause i recently
>downloaded something on my computer and it wiped out all my windows making
>it difficult to install everything back in, but even though that was a
>small little virus doenst mean there isnt anything bigger that could be to
>destroy the big amounts of money that people spent on their machines. They
>need to be known about it and need to listen to one that has downloaded the
>virus.<

Should be using a Macintosh...

Ciao

Bill Code
Code Dlugos & Associates of Victoria
http://www.tourvic.com
http://www.retailad.bc.ca
250-995-4191



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Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 23:25:45 -0600
From: Diane Christy <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: [MV] Fw: You have been warned...

On 11/24/98, 9:50 PM -0600, Bill Code said so nicely:
>Should be using a Macintosh...

AMEN to that!!!!!
~~~~~
Diane Christy (Samantha and Joshua's Mom)
Jefferson, LA
http://www.geocities.com/~dchristy10/
mailto:[e-mail]  mailto:[e-mail]
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Date: Wed, 25 Nov 98 03:44:20 PST
From: "Rebecca Bezant" <[e-mail]>
Subject: [none]

One for mel:
     Be my guest if you want to do the download, all that I am saying is =
that hoax or not, last thing one needs is a positive attitude from one =
that knows second-hand knowledge of something that is said to be VERY neg=
ative.   Oh and this line from your resonse kinda bugged me:

" I am giving you the benefit of the doubt that you read my entire messag=
e, although your reply does leave that in doubt"

Well, please forgive me for writing a VERY short resonse to your 2 pages,=
 I just didnt feel like writing a masterpiece being so close to 3 am.

And now to Bill, whom said "Should be using a Macintosh..." and to Diane,=
 who thinks Bill's a god for saying that, well just set up funds for me =
to afford one, not everyone is well suited for cash. Thank you and goodni=
ght!

Ps: why are we talking computer viruses on a movie email listing? That =
sure got me stumped.


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Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 03:43:18 -0800 (PST)
From: [e-mail] (Hollywood Online)
Subject: [MV] Hollywood Online Weekly Dispatch

Hollywood Online Weekly Dispatch

Hello movie fans!

Welcome yet again to the Hollywood Online Weekly Dispatch, delivered
FREE OF CHARGE to your e-mail box every week. Instructions for
unsubscribing appear at the bottom.

The Hollywood Online Weekly Dispatch is THE source for detailed news
about the latest movie and video releases, Hollywood events, special
movie site features, exclusive interviews and audio clips. The web's
number one information source for movie soundtrack news, premiere
coverage, and much more.

It's Thanksgiving week and there's a lot to be grateful for. The much
anticipated "Babe: Pig in the City" and "A Bug's Life" open on Wednesday,
along with new movies starring Cameron Diaz ("Very Bad Things") and
Drew Barrymore ("Home Fries"). Check out all the movies opening this week,
as well as some new Hollywood Online features ...


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NEW MOVIES RELEASED THIS WEEK
****************************************

Movies Opening
November 25, 1998
(in alphabetical order)

"Babe: Pig in the City"
http://www.hollywood.com/cgi-bin/TARGET/indexmg.cgi?babe2
Family: James Cromwell and Magda Szubanski return as the Hoggets,
joined by Mickey Rooney in this sequel to the porcine blockbuster.
November 25, 1998 - national release

"A Bug's Life"
http://www.hollywood.com/cgi-bin/TARGET/indexmg.cgi?bugslife
Family: An ant organizes a squad of insects to save the colony from
invading grasshoppers in Pixar/Disney's theatrical follow-up to "Toy Story."
November 25, 1998 - expanded release

"Elizabeth"
http://www.hollywood.com/cgi-bin/TARGET/indexmg.cgi?elizabeth
Drama: Cate Blanchett claims the title role of Elizabeth I, the iron-willed
Queen of England who came to power at age 23. Imprisoned by a half-sister
at 16, Elizabeth uses her resilience to overcome the challenges of the
male-dominated ruling class in 1554. Geoffrey Rush, Joseph Fiennes and
Christopher Eccleston play secondary characters.
November 25, 1998 - expanded release

"Home Fries"
http://www.hollywood.com/cgi-bin/TARGET/indexmg.cgi?homefries
Comedy: An eccentric mother, two brothers and the woman the boys are
obsessed with are the principals in an offbeat comedy starring Drew Barrymore.
November 25, 1998 - national release

"Jerry Springer: Ringmaster"
http://www.hollywood.com/cgi-bin/TARGET/indexmg.cgi?ringmaster
Comedy: Jerry Springer plays himself in a fictional account of the antics
behind the scenes as two groups of guests become even more dysfunctional
in each other's company.
November 25, 1998 - national release

"The Last Emperor"
http://www.hollywood.com/cgi-bin/TARGET/indexmg.cgi?lastemperor
Art/Foreign: Almost an hour of unseen footage expands the director's cut
of Bertolucci's 1987 epic to its original 219-minute running time.
November 25, 1998 - limited release

"The Mirror"
http://www.hollywood.com/cgi-bin/TARGET/indexmg.cgi?themirror
Art/Foreign: An independent little girl reaches the end of the school day
to find out that no one has come to pick her up. In turn, she decides to find
her own way home through the streets of Tehran. Reality further complicates
the situation when the actress who plays the girl tells the director she's quitting.
November 25, 1998 - NY release

"Steam: the Turkish Bath"
http://www.hollywood.com/cgi-bin/TARGET/indexmg.cgi?steam
Art/Foreign: When a Roman designer is bequeathed a traditional
steam bath in Istanbul, he enters a new and sensuous realm.
November 25, 1998 - LA/NY release

"Very Bad Things"
http://www.hollywood.com/cgi-bin/TARGET/indexmg.cgi?verybadthings
Comedy: "Chicago Hope" resident Peter Berg writes and directs the tale of
a bachelor party gone very bad. After a stripper is accidentally killed, the
boys clash over the manly thing to do. A series of cover-ups and murders
ensue in this blackest of comedies. Cameron Diaz, Christian Slater and
Jon Favreau co-star.
November 25, 1998 - national release


****************************************
SHOWTIMES MOVIE LISTINGS
****************************************

http://showtimes.hollywood.com/

Now that you've seen what's coming out this week, here's the best way
to find out where it's playing in your neighborhood, and when! Plus,
get maps, theater information, and much more -- everything about movies
at Hollywood Online!


****************************************
NEW VIDEOS RELEASED THIS WEEK
****************************************

Videos Released
November 24, 1998
(in alphabetical order)

"Dr. Dolittle"
http://www.hollywood.com/cgi-bin/TARGET/indexmg.cgi?drdolittle
Comedy: Eddie Murphy heeds the call of the wild in this modern update
of the classic family comedy. As Dr. Dolittle, Murphy leads the perfect
domestic life until a long-dormant ability to communicate with nature
rears its furry head. Literally able to hear and understand creatures of all
shapes and sizes, Murphy becomes the animal world's best friend.

"The Negotiator"
http://www.hollywood.com/cgi-bin/TARGET/indexmg.cgi?negotiator
Action/Adventure: Samuel L. Jackson and Kevin Spacey are brilliant
Chicago police negotiators forced to play a game of cat and mouse.
Jackson is pushed up against the wall and takes hostages after discovering
he has been framed for embezzlement and murder. Spacey is brought in to
negotiate with his colleague and defuse the situation.

"Sliding Doors"
http://www.hollywood.com/cgi-bin/TARGET/indexmg.cgi?sliding
Comedy: Gwyneth Paltrow slides into two possible futures as an
English advertising executive who experiences strange things after
a ride on a London train. John Hannah of "Four Weddings and a
Funeral" fame co-stars as the man she meets along the way.
Peter Howitt writes and directs this comic fable.


****************************************
HOLLYWOOD NEWS
****************************************

HOLLYWOOD ROUNDTABLE
http://www.hollywood.com/news/roundtable/

Weekly columns on a variety of subjects, from underground
film to foreign film to film zeitgeist.

HOLLYWOOD RETROSPECTIVE: Thanks for Hollywood!
http://www.hollywood.com/news/roundtable/Tuesday/11-24-98/index.html


THE PRESSROOM
http://www.hollywood.com/pressroom

The best premiere coverage, celebrity photos and interviews on the web!
New this week:

"A Bug's Life" Premiere
http://www.hollywood.com/pressroom/premieres/bugslife/bugslife.html

"Home Fries" Premiere
http://www.hollywood.com/pressroom/premieres/homefries/homefries.html

"I Still Know What You Did Last Summer" Premiere
http://www.hollywood.com/pressroom/premieres/istillknow/istillknow.html

Thanksgiving Special
http://www.hollywood.com/pressroom/events/thanks/award_thanks.html

Jon Favreau ("Very Bad Things") Interview
http://www.hollywood.com/pressroom/interviews/jfavreau/jfavreau.html


****************************************
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****************************************

"THE THIN RED LINE" PREMIERE TRIP GIVEAWAY
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Win two FREE movie tickets to see "You've Got Mail."

"I STILL KNOW WHAT YOU DID LAST SUMMER" SPECIAL FEATURE
Videos, Photos, Fun Stuff - Vote for the Scream Queens!
http://www.hollywood.com/sites/istillknow/


DIGITAL REVOLUTION
http://digital.hollywood.com/digital/

Everything you could want to know about DVDs, laser
discs, industry developments, and all the latest titles.

Pick of the Week:
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MOVIE CRITIC
http://www.hollywood.com/critic/index.html

The critics are thrilled by "Enemy of the State" and "The Rugrats Movie."
Check out what they're saying about the movies opening this week!


MOVIETALK
http://www.hollywood.com/movietalk/

Hear your favorite celebs in their own words, behind the scenes,
unrehearsed, and in glorious RealAudio! This week:

Will Smith, Jon Voight, Regina King, Jerry Bruckheimer, Tony Scott,
("Enemy of the State"); Jonathan Taylor Thomas, Jessica Biel ("I'll
Be Home for Christmas"); Jennifer Love Hewitt, Brandy("I Still Know
What You Did Last Summer").


MOVIETUNES
http://www.movietunes.com

MovieTunes at Hollywood Online is the best source for movie music
news and coverage -- audio clips, interviews, art, forums, and more.

Soundtrack of the week:

"A Bug's Life"
http://www.movietunes.com/soundtracks/1998/bugslife/

Also:
"Antz"
http://www.movietunes.com/soundtracks/1998/antz/

"Meet Joe Black"
http://www.movietunes.com/soundtracks/1998/joeblack/


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Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 11:17:54 -0500
From: [e-mail] (Ryan Allen)
Subject: RE: [MV] end credits

So I'm not the only one here who does this.  I know that my friends don't
appreciate film as I do, therefore they don't understand why I do it.  I
enjoy watching the credits - and since most movies today are expensive as
is, why not see the whole thing?

Ryan

At 20:27 11/24/98 , you wrote:
>here here!  I've always stayed to read each and every person's name in
>respect and to pay homage to the hard work (and a lot of bulls**t) they went
>through to get their names up there!!
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From:    [e-mail] [SMTP:[e-mail]]
>> Sent:    Tuesday, November 24, 1998 11:16 AM
>> To:    [e-mail]
>> Subject:    Re: [MV] a bug's life
>>
>> At 22:30 11/16/98 , you wrote:
>> >Yes, the end credits are the best part of the film.  On the whole,
>> though, I
>> >prefer Toy Story.
>>
>> Doesn't everyone on this list stay through all the credits?  There hasn't
>> been a movie I can remember in 10 years that I didn't stay through the
>> credits for.  Not only to pay homage to those responsible (good or bad)
>> for
>> the movie, but for the occasional ending that is often thrown in for the
>> dedicated audience.

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Date: 25 Nov 98 16:47:42 +0000
From: "ABYRNE.IE.ORACLE.COM" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: RE: [MV] end credits

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I think I'm in the same boat as you buddy.
The credits at the end of Armageddon were great.
I know you don't really get to see who does what in it, as you are looking
at
the pictures, but the pictures were pretty cool, like the film.
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Date: 25 Nov 98 16:17:54
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So I'm not the only one here who does this.  I know that my friends don't
appreciate film as I do, therefore they don't understand why I do it.  I
enjoy watching the credits - and since most movies today are expensive as
is, why not see the whole thing?

Ryan

At 20:27 11/24/98 , you wrote:
>here here!  I've always stayed to read each and every person's name in
>respect and to pay homage to the hard work (and a lot of bulls**t) they went
>through to get their names up there!!
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From:    [e-mail] [SMTP:[e-mail]]
>> Sent:    Tuesday, November 24, 1998 11:16 AM
>> To:    [e-mail]
>> Subject:    Re: [MV] a bug's life
>>
>> At 22:30 11/16/98 , you wrote:
>> >Yes, the end credits are the best part of the film.  On the whole,
>> though, I
>> >prefer Toy Story.
>>
>> Doesn't everyone on this list stay through all the credits?  There hasn't
>> been a movie I can remember in 10 years that I didn't stay through the
>> credits for.  Not only to pay homage to those responsible (good or bad)
>> for
>> the movie, but for the occasional ending that is often thrown in for the
>> dedicated audience.

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Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 12:43:38 -0500
From: Mel Eperthener <[e-mail]>
Subject: [MV] Re: Pox Virii

At 03.44 AM 25/11/98 PST, Rebecca Bezant wrote:
>One for mel:
>     Be my guest if you want to do the download, all that I am saying is
that hoax or not, last thing one needs is a positive attitude from one that
knows second-hand knowledge of something that is said to be VERY negative.

Hunh??

And you still haven't provided your address so I can send the invoice for
services after I download and neutralise the virus:-)

>Ps: why are we talking computer viruses on a movie email listing? That
sure got me stumped.

<Sigh>  This was the ENTIRE point of my original responce.  Sending hoaxes
and urban legends to a movies mailing list wastes my time and yours.  Are
you saying that it is perfectly alright to waste bandwidth sending a
computer hoax that is, at the very least, over a year old, but debating the
use of resources for said hoax is in itself a waste of resources??
Everyone online for more than a few weeks has seen hoaxes/ULs like this.
At least the responces (including the very funny Apple comments) attempted
to be educational.  Most tried to explain to the original poster his
mistake in a nice and pleasant manner.

<Sigh>

Regards,

- --Mel


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Date: 25 Nov 98 19:57:43 +0000
From: "ABYRNE.IE.ORACLE.COM" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: [MV] Re: Pox Virii

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At 03.44 AM 25/11/98 PST, Rebecca Bezant wrote:
>One for mel:
>     Be my guest if you want to do the download, all that I am saying is
that hoax or not, last thing one needs is a positive attitude from one that
knows second-hand knowledge of something that is said to be VERY negative.

Hunh??

And you still haven't provided your address so I can send the invoice for
services after I download and neutralise the virus:-)

>Ps: why are we talking computer viruses on a movie email listing? That
sure got me stumped.

<Sigh>  This was the ENTIRE point of my original responce.  Sending hoaxes
and urban legends to a movies mailing list wastes my time and yours.  Are
you saying that it is perfectly alright to waste bandwidth sending a
computer hoax that is, at the very least, over a year old, but debating the
use of resources for said hoax is in itself a waste of resources??
Everyone online for more than a few weeks has seen hoaxes/ULs like this.
At least the responces (including the very funny Apple comments) attempted
to be educational.  Most tried to explain to the original poster his
mistake in a nice and pleasant manner.

<Sigh>

Regards,

- --Mel


- --Mel Eperthener
president, Gowanna Multi-media Pty

email: [e-mail]
          [e-mail]
http://www.webz.com/gowanna

419 Butler Street
PO Box 95184
Pittsburgh, PA 15223-0184
[phone]
[phone]

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Fear leads to anger
Anger leads to hate
Hate leads to sufferring.

- --Yoda, The Phantom Menace
(really cool trailer)
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Date: Wed, 25 Nov 98 23:11:29 +0000
From: Garrett Winters <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: [MV] Re: Pox Virii+ Freddy vs Jason

A.Byrne writes
>End Of Virus Conversations. Period!
>Thanks & Regards,
also it would be nice if you could lose the attachments that seem to come
with your mail all the time. I don't know what mailer you use but it is
something that is controllable.
thanks
Garrett
on a movie note what is the buzz on "Freddy Vs Jason", is there a script
yet?

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Date: Thu, 26 Nov 98 02:59:35 PST
From: "Rebecca Bezant" <[e-mail]>
Subject: [MV] Pox Virii renewed

For one thing, dont "Hunh??" You know well enough of what I was saying, =
and for another thing, you dont need my email address to test out for me =
to pay to see if your correct of what you think. If you are going to say =
something is false or true, prove it yourself as well as paying for it =
too. Then tell the results all that you want, cause you don't hear me com=
ing on saying something I have not proven at all. Due to those that do =
say without proving tell those and the other people go off thinking its =
all right cause some says that its not a thing to worry about. Next thing=
 you know they are stuck with a waste(unless they are insured which was =
fortunate for a friend of mine because he, too,  thought that a certain =
download was no sweat at alland his computer was alot powerful than mine)=
. Don't complain for me repeating myself, but prove something before you =
open youur lid about your thoughts. Oh and pay for it yourself.

<sigh>dont you just love to think of yourself a wizard when you say this:=
   "At least the responces (including the very funny Apple comments) atte=
mpted
to be educational.  Most tried to explain to the original poster his
mistake in a nice and pleasant manner."     I am sure you find the respon=
ses laugh-out-loud-funny-attempt-to-break-a-spine hilarious, but being =
a little (how does one put it?)BROKE, I dont find it a nice and pleasant =
manner, instead I find it rude and offensive for one to just tell another=
 to buy a macintosh, as if everyone is growing a tree blooming with 20 =
dollars bills in place of apples. Oh by the way, I did not in anyway make=
 a "mistake," I find that you make a mistake saying Dont worry, It wont =
bite. Cause all I said Bite or no bite, no one should fill someone's head=
 with actual knowledge. Cause i am sure you didnt like it that well when =
that person that you said that you trusted sent you that virus, and I am =
sure no one else does either.
   Well I believe i wrote too much truth about telling the actual truth =
instead of vague assumptions, seems to me like I wrote the same thing abo=
ut ten times over, so i think I'll end it here. Thank you all, that made =
it here without deleting, for reading this nonsense.

Ps: Is this making the slow email more enjoyable, I find it fun, i haven'=
t wrote this much email in a while.


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Date: Thu, 26 Nov 98 03:31:09 PST
From: "Rebecca Bezant" <[e-mail]>
Subject: [none]

You know i wrote that other email and read one from some Abyrne gy saying=
: End Of Virus Conversations. Period!
 You know I would love to, but its quite difficult quitting a topic when =
you are being mocked for replying to something that doesnt seem right. =
Ending it off like you would like one too is like getting punched and not=
 getting back. Cause it was rude what was said:   "Gary didn't realise =
that what he was doing was not a good thing.  He
thought he was being helpful,"     I find that warning people is a good =
thing, I would hate it if a bomb fell on my town and someone warned every=
one about it, and they just told to bug off. Who will be the lucky one? =
It will be the one that warned us all and packed his bags and left before=
 it could happened. So people shouldnt be mocked for ACTUALLY helping out=
, and its not just a thought either, I am not saying that i believe the =
virus is true or false i am saying that I wouldnt risk touching that pack=
age. God its late, good night


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Date: Thu, 26 Nov 1998 02:35:45 -0500
From: Mel Eperthener <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: [MV] Pox Virii renewed

At 02.59 AM 26/11/98 PST, Rebecca Bezant wrote:
>For one thing, dont "Hunh??"<

Excuse me??  EXCUSE ME????  Who the hell gave you such an attitude???  Up
to this point, I have tried to be nice.  You are making it difficult.  I do
NOT need your attitude.  I put up with less from PAYING CUSTOMERS, which
you are not one!!!!!

I also planned to let this drop.  As Anto said, this is a MOVIE mailing
list.  This is not the attitude mailing list.  Neither is it the Virus Hoax
mailing list, which I was trying to explain to the original poster.

In addition, next time, try writing in English, and I will not "Hunh?" you.
 Get rid of the attitude on the list, and my responce will not be on the
list, either.

> You know well enough of what I was saying, and for another thing, you
dont need my email address to test out for me to pay to see if your correct
of what you think.<

Sweetheart (yes, I know saying that is going to piss you off.  That is why
I said it.  Why should I be the only one pissed off around here??), I don't
need your email address.  By the action of you posting to a mailing list,
we already all have your email address.  What I need is a billing address.
I need do no research for myself.  I already KNOW the truth.  If you wish
to have proof from me, you will be paying for my time.  You have already
wasted enough of my time by sticking your nose into an argument that you
know nothing about, and making this personal, as well.

Also, if you would learn to operate your email programme, this wouldn't be
a mass of jumbled letters.  An entire paragraph should not be taking up one
line (which is what is happening by not being able to properly quote your
message).  Perhaps you can learn that as soon as you learn to write in
English.  (NB:  I am adding marks to this to show what is being quoted)

> If you are going to say something is false or true, prove it yourself as
well as paying for it too. Then tell the results all that you want, cause
you don't hear me coming on saying something I have not proven at all.<

**I** don't NEED to prove it.  If you knew anything at all about the
internet, neither would you.  Get back to me after you have been online
more than a few days.

In addition, YOU are the one saying things that are not proven.  YOU claim
that the budwieser frogs hoax is not actually a hoax.  Had you done ONE
IOTA of research, you would know that you are dead wrong.

 >Due to those that do say without proving tell those and the other people
go off thinking its all right cause some says that its not a thing to worry
about. Next thing you know they are stuck with a waste(unless they are
insured which was fortunate for a friend of mine because he, too,  thought
that a certain download was no sweat at alland his computer was alot
powerful than mine). Don't complain for me repeating myself, but prove
something before you open youur lid about your thoughts. Oh and pay for it
yourself.<

Here's an idea:  Go and get a virus scanning programme.  Install it.  Run
it.  Then stop whinging to everyone about virii.  You know nothing of which
you speak.  And then you have the audacity to talk to me with that
attitude.  I'm sorry that you were foolish enough to download a virus.
Once you learn about the internet, I am sure that it will not be happening
again.  (And God help us if it does)

>
><sigh>dont you just love to think of yourself a wizard when you say this:
 "At least the responces (including the very funny Apple comments) attempted
>to be educational.  Most tried to explain to the original poster his
>mistake in a nice and pleasant manner."     I am sure you find the
responses laugh-out-loud-funny-attempt-to-break-a-spine hilarious, but
being a little (how does one put it?)BROKE, I dont find it a nice and
pleasant manner, instead I find it rude and offensive for one to just tell
another to buy a macintosh, as if everyone is growing a tree blooming with
20 dollars bills in place of apples.<

Oh, more whinging.  Hey, I use a Wintel machine, as well.  And if you are
so broke, how can you afford internet access??  Just asking, as enquiring
minds wish to know.  If the worst you can complain about is not owning a
Mac, and having mistakenly downloaded a virus, then you have no right to
have such an attitude.  If your economic situation was so dire, this would
also be the least of your worries.  Either way, this is a MOVIES mailing
list, and no one wished to hear about virii and virii hoaxes.

>Ps: Is this making the slow email more enjoyable, I find it fun, i haven't
wrote this much email in a while.<

Well, that is nice.  However, I am sure that most people here would like to
hear about MOVIES.  For those people, I truly apologise for wasting your
time.  However, I felt a need to defend myself from this attitude.  Unless
attacked again, I will take everything to private email.  I urge anyone
else willing to comment do the same (assuming that they are able to figure
out how to send mail to my address instead of the list)

Regards,

- --Mel

(OK, the following came in after I wrote the above.  I wanted to write it
all together)

>Cause it was rude what was said:   "Gary didn't realise that what he was
doing was not a good thing.  He
>thought he was being helpful,"

You find THIS rude??  That I stuck up for Gary??  Then how would you
catagorise your behaviour??  And, truth to tell, you ain't seen nothing
yet, if you want to talk rude.

 > I find that warning people is a good thing, I would hate it if a bomb
fell on my town and someone warned everyone about it, and they just told to
bug off. Who will be the lucky one? It will be the one that warned us all
and packed his bags and left before it could happened.<

Or how about this scenario??  Someone warns you that a bomb is coming.
Industry shuts down, people leave their possessions to the looters,
civilisation in this town ends.  AND THE BOMB NEVER COMES!!!!!!!!!!!!

Or you can just go build a bomb shelter in the woods, leave civilisation
behind, and wait for the end instead of contributing to the end not coming.
 Of course, I have no idea how someone with no money is going to afford to
spend the rest of her days in a bomb shelter.

Just to keep things modestly on topic, both are movie plots.  We can
discuss that for a bit.  Or look with more detail into the story of The Boy
Who Cried Wolf.

Once again, regards,

- --Mel




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Date: 26 Nov 98 08:15:28 +0000
From: "ABYRNE.IE.ORACLE.COM" <[e-mail]>
Subject: [MV] Re:Attachments

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Content-Transfer-Encoding:quoted-printable
Content-Type:text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

I apologise for the attachments, I mail from a dumb terminal, and have no
control over these little attachments. Are they that big(K wise).
If so, I apologise.
Thanks & Regards,
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Date: 25 Nov 98 23:11:29
From:Garrett Winters <[e-mail]>
To:"Movies" <[e-mail]>
Subject:Re: [MV] Re: Pox Virii+ Freddy vs Jason
Reply-to:IEUNIX1.IE.ORACLE.COM:[e-mail]
Return-Path:<[e-mail]>
Message-Id:<[e-mail]>
X-Sender:[e-mail]
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Content-Transfer-Encoding:7bit

A.Byrne writes
>End Of Virus Conversations. Period!
>Thanks & Regards,
also it would be nice if you could lose the attachments that seem to come
with your mail all the time. I don't know what mailer you use but it is
something that is controllable.
thanks
Garrett
on a movie note what is the buzz on "Freddy Vs Jason", is there a script
yet?

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Date: Thu, 26 Nov 1998 22:24:43 -0800
From: Oz <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: [MV] Re: Freddy vs Jason

Garrett Winters wrote:
>
> on a movie note what is the buzz on "Freddy Vs Jason", is there a script
> yet?

According to one of the regular users at Hollywood Bitchslap
(http://hollywoodbitchslap.com) a few weeks back, Kane Hodder (Jason
- - and incidentally one of the stuntmen on Enemy Of The State) made
an appearance at (I think) DragonCon and said the script was finally
coming together.

It's taken a few years and lot's of drafts that ended up in the
shredder, but the word is that they finally have a premise that
works and a script that doesn't suck chunks. Both Robert Englund and
Kane Hodder signed on long ago and it can only be good news that
they're waiting until they get a good script before green-lighting
it.

Maybe they can avoid making something as awful as Halloween: H20 or
Urban Legend.

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Date: Thu, 26 Nov 98 19:27:31 +0000
From: Garrett Winters <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: [MV] Re: Freddy vs Jason

Oz writes
>It's taken a few years and lot's of drafts that ended up in the
>shredder, but the word is that they finally have a premise that
>works and a script that doesn't suck chunks. Both Robert Englund and
>Kane Hodder signed on long ago and it can only be good news that
>they're waiting until they get a good script before green-lighting
>it.
Thanks for that, I'd read that it was slowly inching towards the light.
finally after years of waiting for some of my most wanted films they are
nearly here( xmen and F vs J). Now all I want is Spiderman and Predator
Vs Alien( there is bound to be a decent story in there but it would
probably have to include humans as I can't see a studio backing it
without them).
Garrett

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Date: Thu, 26 Nov 98 19:40:18 +0000
From: Garrett Winters <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: [MV] Re:Attachments

>
A.Byrne writes
>I apologise for the attachments, I mail from a dumb terminal, and have no
>control over these little attachments. Are they that big(K wise).
I didn't think you might have no control over it, they aren't that big
(13k) it's just seeing an attachment from a non personal source can be
perturbing at times and with the bulk of mail I get here at home a few
random attachments every day means I have to clean out my download folder
fairly regularly to keep it tidy.
if there is nothing you can do don't worry about it.
garrett

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Date: Thu, 26 Nov 1998 13:13:52 -0700
From: Bill Code <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: [MV] Pox Virii renewed

Excuse me Rebecca, but my Apple comment was not ment to offend. It was more
of a comment that in the 13+ years that I've been working with computers,
my Mac(s) haven't been infected with ANY type of virus. That's not
necessarily saying that there are no Mac viruses, I will assure you there
are, but Mac's are harder to "hurt". As for blooming $20 bills instead of
apples. I wasn't aware that Macintosh was anymore expensive that ANY other
equivalant brand of computer. Mac's are just faster and easier to use.

Sorry for this non movie-related response folks.

Bill Code
Code Dlugos & Associates of Victoria
http://www.tourvic.com
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Date: Fri, 27 Nov 1998 10:23:43 +1000
From: Lillian Lepinath <[e-mail]>
Subject: [MV] Predator Vs Alien (was Freddy VS Jason)

> Now all I want is Spiderman and Predator
>Vs Alien( there is bound to be a decent story in there but it would
>probably have to include humans as I can't see a studio backing it
>without them).
>Garrett
>

Garrett,

Wasn't there an Atari Jaguar game along the lines of Predator Vs Alien?  If
I remember correctly, there were humans involved, but usually only as
fodder...  I think there were a few scenario's where the player was human
and had the fun of attacking both Predator and Alien...  but don't quote me
on that, since I've never played the actual game and have only seen it in
action once or twice.  I do remember, however, the game's atmosphere was
brilliant.

But, as for a movie, I agree, I don't see how there could be a film with
does not include a character which is human or has human-like qualities...
that's not exactly right, it could be done in some way (and I would like to
see a film along those lines), but probably not with studio backing, as
you've said.

Does anyone think that a Pred. vs A. film could be done where neither are
affiliated to humans in anyway?  Right now, I can only see a story line
where one is token 'good', allied to humans for some just cause... like
rescuing some colony or saving the planet etc etc etc... just a thought.

Comments?

Teck



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Date: Thu, 26 Nov 1998 18:44:05 -0700 (MST)
From: "Gregory A. Swarthout" <[e-mail]>
Subject: [MV] Movie News - 11/25/98

Movie director and producer Alan Pakula, who made such hits
as "To Kill a Mockingbird," "Klute," "All the President's
Men" and "Sophie's Choice," was killed in a freak accident
Thursday. Pakula, 70, was driving on the Long Island
Expressway when a seven-foot-long metal bar on the roadway
flew up and crashed through the windshield of his car,
striking him on the head and causing the vehicle to swerve
across a service road and hit a fence, said Suffolk County
(NY) police. He was pronounced dead at 12:22 p.m. at the
North Shore University Hospital. Pakula's family said he had
been on his way to his home in East Hampton to work on "No
Ordinary Time," a screenplay about the White House during
the era of Franklin and Eleanor Roosevelt. Pakula was
nominated for an Academy award as best director for "All the
President's Men" and nominated for best screenplay for
"Sophie's Choice," which he also directed. His most recent
film was "The Devil's Own," with Harrison Ford and Brad
Pitt.

                        -=> * <=-

Will Smith is in talks to star in a remake of "A Star Is
Born" for Warner Bros., with the studio seeking to pair him
with a major female singing star and add a new twist to the
tale. "Star" was first made in 1937 with Fredric March and
Janet Gaynor, again in 1954 with Judy Garland and James
Mason and in 1976 with Barbra Streisand and Kris
Kristofferson. Those films featured a male star who
discovers and falls in love with a young woman whose fame
begins to eclipse his. The new version features a gender
role reversal, with Smith as the young unknown who falls in
love with a femme superstar.

                        -=> * <=-

Mariah Carey wants to break into movies and she hopes a
movie cameo will help her kick off an acting career, says
USA Today. Carey is said to be considering a number of small
roles, including one in "The Bachelor," which tells the
story of a single young man who will inherit a large sum of
money if he weds by a certain deadline. Chris O'Donnell and
Renee Zellweger will star in the film.

                        -=> * <=-

"Titanic" star Kate Winslet married assistant film director
Jim Threapleton Sunday in what the vicar described as "a
normal wedding as far as we were concerned." Security was
tight at the ceremony at the church in the town of Reading,
England. About 150 guests, including actress Emma Thompson,
attended. After the half-hour service, the 23-year-old
actress, in a white Edwardian-style gown, posed briefly for
photographs with her 25-year-old husband. (They met last
year in Morocco on the set of the movie "Hideous Kinky,"
which has yet to be released.) "It was quite amazing," the
bride said of the wedding. "It was the most amazing day of
our lives." She said the exchange of vows was the highlight.
"I think it was an incredible feeling."

                        -=> * <=-

Director Francis Ford Coppola plans to remake the movie
"Gidget" and wants John Travolta to play Kahoona, the aging
king of the surfers, says USA Today. "I've admired Travolta
in the past, and he has given great performances recently,"
Coppola told the paper. "When I finish the script (for the
musical called "The Big Kahoona"), I'm certainly going to
send it to him and offer him the role." Travolta's manager
says his client has received, and rejected, thousands of
musical pitches and scripts over the last 14 years. However,
he said, "Francis is a great, authentic and original
filmmaker. He could be the guy who comes up with the
screenplay John is looking for."

                        -=> * <=-

Adam Sandler's low-brow comedy "The Waterboy" was deposed by
an animated film about babies in diapers. "The Rugrats
Movie," based on a popular cable cartoon, topped the weekend
box-office returns with a take of $28 million, while "The
Waterboy" slipped to No. 3 after two weeks in the top spot.
"Enemy of the State," a political thriller starring Will
Smith and Gene Hackman, opened at No. 2 with $20.3 million.
The Brad Pitt vehicle "Meet Joe Black" slipped a notch to
fourth with $8.6 million, while the horror sequel "I Still
Know What You Did Last Summer" slid three places to fifth
with $7.2 million. The new Woody Allen movie "Celebrity,"
which features a neat cameo by Leonardo DiCaprio, made its
debut with $1.7 million on 493 screens (vs. 2,782 screens
for "Rugrats").

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