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From: owner-movies-digest@lists.xmission.com (movies-digest)
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Subject: movies-digest V2 #135
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movies-digest Tuesday, November 24 1998 Volume 02 : Number 135
Re: [MV] Fw: You have been warned...
[MV] Quiet List (Was Off-topic question)
[MV] Tommy
Re: [MV] Tommy
Re: [MV] Fw: You have been warned...
Re: [MV] Quiet List (Was Off-topic question)
[MV] Screen It Newsletter (November 24, 1998)
Re: [MV] a bug's life
RE: [MV] a bug's life
RE: [MV] a bug's life
Re: [MV] Tommy
[MV] REVIEW: BABE: PIG IN THE CITY
Re: [MV] Tommy
RE: [MV] end credits
Re: [MV] Fw: You have been warned...
[MV] The Movie Report#168, 11/24/98
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Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 08:58:07 +1000
From: Lillian Lepinath <lepinatl@topaz.cqu.edu.au>
Subject: Re: [MV] Fw: You have been warned...
Sorry to continue this off-topic mail, but I'm sure I was sent this about 6
months ago... if it's not the same one, people obviously just like the
frogs.
Lillian.
>Why is it always Microsoft who warns people of such viruses, hmm?
>They aren't the only people watching ths kind of thing....
>
>
>
>--- On Mon, 23 Nov 1998 15:48:27 -0000 46CCHI
><46CCHI@marlboroughcollege.wilts.sch.uk> wrote:
>>
>> Please send this on to any names you can think of and remember never
>> download BUDDYLST.ZIP. This is a new, very malicious virus and not
>> many people know about it. This information was announced recently by
>> Microsoft. Please share it with everyone that might access the
>> internet. Once again, pass this along to EVERYONE in your address book
>> so that this may be stopped.
>>
>>
>>
>> (end)
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 09:01:42 +1000
From: Lillian Lepinath <lepinatl@topaz.cqu.edu.au>
Subject: [MV] Quiet List (Was Off-topic question)
This list isn't as quiet as how it was about mid-last year. Bruce and
Gregory can back me up on this one (as well as everyone else who was around
at that time.) It took the death of the guy who played the Penguin in the
Batman TV Series (can't remember his name, sorry) to get conversation
started. After that it became quite amazing and from there developed into
this wonderful (if sometimes slow) list that you now receive.
Teck.
>Yes, it is getting quite slow. When i first subscribe to this, here movie
>list i was like getting 20 or so more emails a day(getting my mom ticked
>off by the amount) but i liked recieving a lot of emails, i barely get
>many anyway, especially those movie news about the upcoming film roles and
>or movie star problems, why isnt there anymore of that? Oh by the way
>anyone see that Rear Window tonight? Really good you all must know. But oh
>well, guess you will have to wait until it reruns somewhere if you missed
>it.
>
>----------
>> Am I off the list again or is the list just awfully quiet?
>>
>> -------
>> Jayson
>> -------
>> Smelly cat, smelly cat
>> What are they feeding you?
>> Smelly cat, smelly cat
>> It's not your fault.
>>
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Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1998 19:46:59 PST
From: "Danielle Conkle" <danyelli@hotmail.com>
Subject: [MV] Tommy
Whoa. I'm watching this movie on HBO called "Tommy" it is some crazy
stuff! anyone seen this movie before?
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Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1998 21:59:33 -0600
From: Diane Christy <dchristy10@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: [MV] Tommy
On 11/23/98, 9:46 PM -0600, Danielle Conkle said so nicely:
>Whoa. I'm watching this movie on HBO called "Tommy" it is some crazy
>stuff! anyone seen this movie before?
Saw that in high school in the '70s. It's great!!
~~~~~
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Jefferson, LA
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Date: Tue, 24 Nov 98 02:42:57 PST
From: "Rebecca Bezant" <sunybruk@infoblvd.net>
Subject: Re: [MV] Fw: You have been warned...
if you think this is a hoax, then why dont you download the virus your =
self and email us back(on which ever computer it may be) and tell us how =
it went, it is the people right to be known of something, cause i recentl=
y downloaded something on my computer and it wiped out all my windows mak=
ing it difficult to install everything back in, but even though that was =
a small little virus doenst mean there isnt anything bigger that could =
be to destroy the big amounts of money that people spent on their machine=
s. They need to be known about it and need to listen to one that has down=
loaded the virus.
- ----------
Sorry, but this old hoax has been making the rounds for ages. You've been
had. :>(
Linda
______
> Gary, Gary, Gary,
>
> Sorry, old chap, but you have been had. A few points in a second, but
> first, I have saved the text below which I found to another virus hoax.=
It
> is now over a year old, but as current as ever. It was written rather
> tongue-in-cheek, and I have saved it to send out under these circumstan=
ces
> (as a matter of fact, some people on this list may even be familiar wit=
h
> this from the last time we had a hoax)
>
> First of all, Gary thought he was doing a good thing. IMHO, the only =
thing
> he is guilty of is being too trusting of whoever sent him this hoax.
> Having said that...
>
> I have know of this supposed "virus" for well over 6 months now. Hardl=
y a
> newly discovered threat. If *I* know about it, then this hoax has circ=
led
> the globe more than John Glenn!! The British Government knows nothing
> about it, and with all due respect, if they did, they would hardly anno=
unce
> it in this forum. The version I heard had the CDC in Atlanta reporting=
on
> it. Someone took the meaning of computer virus too literally:-)
>
> And lastly, there are dangers out there. There are many files out ther=
e
> that, if downloaded onto your computer AND OPENED, can cause damage.
> However, they are all .exe files, and macro files (like the MSWord .doc
> files). Normal email cannot cause damage to your computer. As with =
life
> in general, 'tis best to practice caution. A virus programme would not=
hurt.
>
> Again, Gary didn't realise that what he was doing was not a good thing.=
He
> thought he was being helpful, and his only crime is nievity. Gary, in =
the
> future, you may want to be more careful, because some of us have seen =
so
> many hoaxes that they are a major pain, akin to spam. On some lists, =
you
> would have been torn apart, but fortunately here, no one really jumped =
on you.
>
> Regards,
>
> --Mel
>
> >Posted by:Elven Lord (exploder@rogers.wave.ca )
> > Date posted: Tue Sep 9 19:37:18 US/Eastern 1997
> > Subject: Virii messages...ENOUGH!!!!!
> > Message:
> >
> > Every few months on the internet, you will come across sincere
> >warnings about Monster
> > Viruses that transfer through your e-mail. Common sense tells =
you
> >that this is impossible, that
> > a text file is just text and it can=92t hurt you or your comput=
er. But
> >the warnings claim it can and
> > often add "My system administrator passed this on to me, so it =
must
> >be true", statements.
> > You begin to doubt your technical knowledge. Don=92t! The warni=
ng
> >itself , IS the "virus": it tricks
> > people into passing it on, endlessly. Here=92s how I shall deal=
with it.
> >
> > LAST "GOODTIMES" VIRUS WARNING.Goodtimes will re-write your har=
d
> >drive. Not only that,
> > but it will scramble any disks that aren=92t even close to your
> >computer. It will re-calibrate your
> > refrigerator=92s coolness setting so all your ice cream goes =
melty. It
> >will demagnetize the strips
> > on all your credit cards, screw up the tracking on your televis=
ion &
> >VCR and use sub-space
> > field harmonics to scratch any CD=92s you try to play. It will =
give
> >your ex-girlfriend your new
> > phone number. It will mix Kool-Aid into your fishtank. It will =
drink
> >all your beer and leave its
> > socks out on the coffee table when there=92s company coming ove=
r. It
> >will put a dead cockroach
> > in the back pocket of your good suit pants and hide your car =
keys
> >when you are late for work.
> > Goodtimes will make you fall in love with a penguin. It will =
give
> >you nightmares about circus
> > midgets.
> >
> > It will pour sugar into your gas tank and shave off both your
> >eyebrows while dating your
> > girlfriend behind your back and billing the dinner & hotel room=
to
> >your Discover card. It will
> > slander your grandmother. It does not matter if she is dead or =
not,
> >such is the power of
> > Goodtimes, it reaches out beyond the grave to sully those thing=
s we
> >hold most dear. It moves
> > your car randomly around parking lots so you can=92t find it. =
It will
> >kick your dog.
> >
> > It will leave libidinous messages on your bosses voice mail in =
your
> >voice! It is insidious and
> > subtle. It is dangerous and terrifying to behold. It is also =
a
> >rather interesting shade of
> > mauve.Goodtimes will give you Dutch Elm disease. It will leave =
the
> >toilet seat up. It will make a
> > batch of Methanphedime in your bath tub and leave bacon cooking=
on
> >your stove while it goes
> > out to chase gradeschoolers with your new snowblower.
> >
> > LISTEN TO ME, GOODTIMES DOES NOT EXIST.It cannot do anything =
to you.
> >But I can. I am
> > sending this message to everyone in the world. Tell your friend=
s,
> >tell your family. If ANYONE
> > sends me another e-mail or ICQ message about this (or any other
> >virus) fake Goodtimes Virus,
> > I will turn them into a religion. I will do things to them that
> >would make a horsehead in their bed
> > look like Easter Sunday brunch.
> >
> > For those paranoid people, pls read this.....only be concerned
> >regarding actual
> > attachments to mail, or files sent to you from someone on ICQ, =
or
> >other, that you don=92t
> > know or trust. Run a damned virus program to keep yourself
> >safe....and don=92t forget to
> > check all the MACROS you may have/receive for apps such as WORD=
or
> >EXCEL.....Quit
> > being a lamer, and don=92t send out all these useless messages.=
...you
> >are just wasting
> > other peoples bandwidth....Thank you for your time.
>
>
>
> --Mel Eperthener
> president, Gowanna Multi-media Pty
>
> email: bcassidy@usaor.net
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> http://www.webz.com/gowanna
>
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> (412) 781-6380
>
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Date: Tue, 24 Nov 98 08:31:39 PST
From: Wade Snider <wsnider@brazoselectric.com>
Subject: Re: [MV] Quiet List (Was Off-topic question)
Burgess Meredith
- --- On Tue, 24 Nov 1998 09:01:42 +1000 Lillian Lepinath
<lepinatl@topaz.cqu.edu.au> wrote:
This list isn't as quiet as how it was about mid-last year. Bruce and
Gregory can back me up on this one (as well as everyone else who was around
at that time.) It took the death of the guy who played the Penguin in the
Batman TV Series (can't remember his name, sorry) to get conversation
started. After that it became quite amazing and from there developed into
this wonderful (if sometimes slow) list that you now receive.
Teck.
>Yes, it is getting quite slow. When i first subscribe to this, here movie
>list i was like getting 20 or so more emails a day(getting my mom ticked
>off by the amount) but i liked recieving a lot of emails, i barely get
>many anyway, especially those movie news about the upcoming film roles and
>or movie star problems, why isnt there anymore of that? Oh by the way
>anyone see that Rear Window tonight? Really good you all must know. But oh
>well, guess you will have to wait until it reruns somewhere if you missed
>it.
>
>----------
>> Am I off the list again or is the list just awfully quiet?
>>
>> -------
>> Jayson
>> -------
>> Smelly cat, smelly cat
>> What are they feeding you?
>> Smelly cat, smelly cat
>> It's not your fault.
>>
>>
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Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 11:08:31 -0500 (EST)
From: reviews@screenit.com
Subject: [MV] Screen It Newsletter (November 24, 1998)
Welcome to the Screen It! Newsletter (November 24, 1998).
This week, a special early edition of our newsletter (due to the new
movie releases all opening on Wednesday for the big Thanksgiving holiday
weekend).
At the movies, Babe the talking pig returns for another adventure,
Disney releases a bunch of computer generated bugs, two films try to be
successful as black comedies, and a TV talk show gets the big screen
treatment.
On home video, the last film featuring comedian John Candy, a rousing,
old fashioned and highly entertaining swashbuckler, and a Twilight Zone
like romantic comedy vie for your rental dollars.
PLEASE NOTE: The new movie reviews WILL NOT be publicly posted until
LATE Tuesday night (EST) to comply with the studios' wishes/demands.
Next week, reviews of "Psycho"(a remake of Hitchcock's classic, starring
Vince Vaughn and Anne Heche and directed by "Good Will Hunting's" Gus
Van Sant) and other new releases.
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NEW MOVIE REVIEWS FOR WEDNESDAY, NOVEMBER 25TH:
"BABE: PIG IN THE CITY" (1998)
(James Cromwell, voice of Elizabeth Daily) (G)
Children's: With Farmer Hoggett's (Cromwell) farm facing foreclosure,
Babe the talking pig (Daily) sets out for the big city to earn enough
money to save his beloved home. The sequel to the critically lauded
1995 hit, this film takes a dark and foreboding turn that, despite its
G rating, may surprise many parents and upset some kids.
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"A BUG'S LIFE" (1998) (voices of Dave Foley, Kevin Spacey) (G)
Children's/Computer Animated: An ant mistakenly recruits a group of
insect circus performers, believing them to be fierce warriors, hoping
they'll defend his colony from a gang of greedy and domineering
grasshoppers. Filled with more than enough funny, adventurous and
interesting material to keep children and adults alike fully satisfied
during its ninety some minute duration, this is easily one of the best
family films to come along in years. The film is rated G, but does
contain some scenes that may be suspenseful/frightening to very young
kids.
(National Release)
http://www.screenit.com/movies/1998/a_bugs_life.html
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"HOME FRIES" (1998) (Drew Barrymore, Luke Wilson) (PG-13)
Black/Romantic comedy: A young man (Wilson) falls for an unmarried
pregnant woman (Barrymore) who may have innocently heard him and his
brother scare their stepfather to death. Although the film has enough
quirky charm to make it bearable to sit through, the fact that it's
neither outrageous nor hilarious enough to satisfy as a romantic and/or
black comedy (it tries to straddle the fence between the two) results in
a disappointing mess. The PG-13 rating comes from some sexual material
and "thematic elements" (unmarried pregnancy from an affair, attempted
homicide, etc...).
(National Release)
http://www.screenit.com/movies/1998/home_fries.html
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"RINGMASTER" (1998) (Jerry Springer, Jaime Pressly) (R)
Comedy: A mother, tired of her daughter (Pressly) fooling around with
her own stepfather, books them on a talk show whose host (Springer) must
deal with them and the wild, crazy, and often uncontrollable antics of
the show's other guests. Simply a racier version of TV's "The Jerry
Springer" show, this is one of the worst films of the year. It gets its
R rating from profanity and sexual talk and activity.
(National Release)
http://www.screenit.com/movies/1998/ringmaster.html
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"VERY BAD THINGS" (1998) (Jon Faveau, Christian Slater) (R)
Black comedy: Things spiral out of control and progressively worsen as
several friends (including Faveau & Slater) try to cover up the
accidental death of a stripper at a bachelor party. Although some
moviegoers -- most likely the teen and college-aged male crowd -- might
find the proceedings amusing, most will probably agree that the film
goes a bit, or, depending on your perspective, way too far in pushing
the morbid humor envelope. The R rating comes from bloody and grisly
violence, profanity, sexual activity and drug use.
(National Release)
http://www.screenit.com/movies/1998/very_bad_things.html
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"ALMOST HEROES" (1998) (Chris Farley, Matthew Perry) (PG-13)
Comedy: Two bumbling explorers (Farley & Perry) hope to beat Lewis &
Clarke to the Pacific Ocean as they race across America's western
frontier in the early 1800's. Featuring hackneyed and trite material,
slipshod writing and overzealous but bad acting, this disaster of a
release will only be remembered for being comedian/actor Chris Farley's
last major picture. Rated PG-13 for crude humor and nudity, the film
only managed to gross a little more than $6 million domestically.
(http://www.screenit.com/movies/1998/almost_heroes.html)
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"THE MASK OF ZORRO" (1998) (Antonio Banderas, Anthony Hopkins) (PG-13)
Action/Adventure: Zorro (Hopkins), the legendary swashbuckler, trains a
young protΘgΘ (Banderas) to avenge both his and the young man's personal
misfortunes by having him take his place as the freedom fighting masked
hero. With plenty of old-fashioned action and adventure, as well as
humor and romance to please nearly every sort of moviegoer, this was
easily one of the best films from this past summer. Rated PG-13 for
"intense action and violence," the film grossed around $92 million
domestically, with about $50 million more coming in from overseas
markets.
(http://www.screenit.com/movies/1998/the_mask_of_zorro.html)
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"SLIDING DOORS" (1998) (Gwyneth Paltrow, John Hannah) (PG-13)
Romantic Comedy: A split second moment sends a woman's (Paltrow) life in
two separate directions, creating parallel worlds where her two selves
must choose between her cheating boyfriend and a new and charming man
(Hannah). This enjoyable and charming film should please fans of the
romantic comedy genre, as well as those who like movies with a "Twilight
Zone" fantasy twist. Grossing around $12 million domestically, the
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Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 14:16:16 -0500
From: ryana@allensysgroup.com (Ryan Allen)
Subject: Re: [MV] a bug's life
At 22:30 11/16/98 , you wrote:
>Yes, the end credits are the best part of the film. On the whole, though, I
>prefer Toy Story.
Doesn't everyone on this list stay through all the credits? There hasn't
been a movie I can remember in 10 years that I didn't stay through the
credits for. Not only to pay homage to those responsible (good or bad) for
the movie, but for the occasional ending that is often thrown in for the
dedicated audience.
Ryan
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Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 12:26:17 -0700
From: jkrudy <jkrudy@micron.com>
Subject: RE: [MV] a bug's life
The last time I stayed for the end credits was when I saw Ferris Bueller's
Day Off. Normally I'm not compelled to stay, but that's just me. I don't
think it adds to the "event" of watching the film to know that some guy
named John Doe Albert was the caterer, because even if I was looking for a
caterer he's probably busy and over a 1000 miles away, so why bother. In
the case of "A Bug's Life" I'll stay because I know something cool or funny
is going to happen, but then that's why I stayed at the end of Ferris,
because something interesting was happening.
Just my opinion,
James K. Rudy
- -----Original Message-----
From: ryana@allensysgroup.com [mailto:ryana@allensysgroup.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 1998 12:16 PM
To: movies@lists.xmission.com
Subject: Re: [MV] a bug's life
At 22:30 11/16/98 , you wrote:
>Yes, the end credits are the best part of the film. On the whole, though,
I
>prefer Toy Story.
Doesn't everyone on this list stay through all the credits? There hasn't
been a movie I can remember in 10 years that I didn't stay through the
credits for. Not only to pay homage to those responsible (good or bad) for
the movie, but for the occasional ending that is often thrown in for the
dedicated audience.
Ryan
Intranet Specialist
Intranet Development Team (IDTeam)
Allen Systems Group
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Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 14:05:03 -0600
From: Diane Christy <dchristy10@earthlink.net>
Subject: RE: [MV] a bug's life
On 11/24/98, 1:26 PM -0600, jkrudy said so nicely:
>The last time I stayed for the end credits was when I saw Ferris Bueller's
>Day Off.
I usually stay for most of them. It's rare that I stay for the whole
thing. I like to see what's involved in making the films. It's very
interesting.
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Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 03:54:54 -0500
From: Gene Ehrich <gene@ehrich.com>
Subject: Re: [MV] Tommy
At 07:46 PM 11/23/98 -0800, you wrote:
>Whoa. I'm watching this movie on HBO called "Tommy" it is some crazy
>stuff! anyone seen this movie before?
Great movie.
Ann Margaret was nominated for best actress Oscar for it.
Written by The Who
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Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 14:08:05 -0700 (MST)
From: Scott Renshaw <renshaw@inconnect.com>
Subject: [MV] REVIEW: BABE: PIG IN THE CITY
BABE: PIG IN THE CITY
(Universal)
Starring: Magda Szubanski, Mary Stein, Mickey Rooney, James Cromwell,
voices of E. G. Daily, Danny Mann, Glenne Headly, Steven Wright.
Screenplay: George Miller, Judy Morris and Mark Lamprell.
Producers: George Miller, Doug Mitchell and Bill Miller.
Director: George Miller.
MPAA Rating: G (mild bodily function reference).
Running Time: 95 minutes.
Reviewed by Scott Renshaw.
Like a classic storybook tale, 1995's BABE was set no-where and
no-when in particular. The singular world in which the rosy, glowing
Hoggett farm and its chattering menagerie existed added to the charm that
made the original film a surprise hit and an Oscar-nominee. BABE: PIG IN
THE CITY takes that anywhere-ness a step farther...actually, a step too
far. The story begins as Farmer Hoggett (James Cromwell) suffers an
unfortunate accident, making him unable to work the farm. With financial
ruin imminent, Mrs. Hoggett (Magda Szubanski) decides to take the
now-famous Babe (E. G. Daily, replacing Christine Cavanaugh) for a
lucrative state fair appearance, only to end up stranded in The Big City.
Where, exactly, _is_ that Big City? Well, a view from Babe's hotel window
includes The Statue of Liberty, the Sydney Opera House, the Eiffel Tower,
and the Hollywood sign.
It's a cute gag the first time, but it also signals a not-so-subtle
shift in tone from BABE. The setting is no longer Anywhere, but
Everywhere; the story isn't just a fantasy where anything could happen,
but one where the film-makers try to make everything happen. Babe and
Mrs. Hoggett contend with suspicions that they are drug smugglers; Mrs.
Hoggett goes to jail when she inadvertently causes a mess in downtown
Metropolis; Babe comes to the rescue of a massive collection of
sort-of-homeless animals. BABE: PIG IN THE CITY is so full of plots and
sub-plots that saving the Hoggett farm practically becomes an
afterthought, with a resolution so silly it almost seems a waste of time.
You might suspect that a pace that frantic would be a sop to younger
viewers, but it's hard to imagine George Miller (who produced the original
and also directs here) had kids in mind making this film. A catastrophic
performance by a low-rent circus (featuring Mickey Rooney in a weird cameo
as a clown of indeterminate personality) turns into a moody and murky
slow-motion sequence like something out of PLATOON; later, a dog with a
bad heart has a near-death experience with pastoral visions. BABE
certainly had a few dark moments, but nothing like the consistently creepy
feel of PIG IN THE CITY. Miller may have been playing to the kiddies when
Mrs. Hoggett goes bouncing around a reception hall in inflatable pants,
but not when a dog insults a cat with an epithet that could be interpreted
as quite vulgar.
Ironically, that strangely mature tone introduces the film's only
truly compelling element, a melancholy performing orangutan named
Thelonious (voice of James Cosmo). He's a mysterious presence who can't
seem to bear the idea that he's not human, and both the animal and vocal
performances are wonderfully sympathetic. I sat just a bit forward in my
seat every time Thelonious appeared, gradually realizing that this one
character also served to point out how bland the rest of the characters
are in BABE: PIG IN THE CITY. There are too many animals milling about to
care about any of them all that much; even the little pig himself seems to
have been sapped of personality. The easy rapport between Babe and Farmer
Hoggett (relegated here to little more than a glorified cameo) is sorely
missed.
Then again, a whole lot of things from BABE are sorely missed. It's
a nice change of pace to find a sequel that doesn't merely try to remake
the original, but BABE: PIG IN THE CITY lack any of the original's
endearing gentle spirit. It's so hyped-up and busy, it's almost as
though John Hughes got hold of our sweet little pig and tossed him into a
HOME ALONE sequel. Too many chuckles in BABE: PIG IN THE CITY are too
forced; too many others are too close to a shudder. This is one major
holiday disappointment, a storybook tale that should have quit with its
original happy ending.
On the Renshaw scale of 0 to 10 pork chops: 4.
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Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 18:12:49 -0500
From: Chris Culligan <culligan@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: [MV] Tommy
This movie was inspired by the first-of-its-kind Rock Opera Album written
by Pete Townsend and performed by The Who. This is an excellent CD -
BTW. Townsend recently produced the stage version of Tommy for Broadway
and it was quite succesful (I think).
Another great Who movie that you may want to check out is Quadrophenia.
I saw this movie on VH1 and really liked it. It stars a very young Sting
(who you might remember from the rock group The Police and the movie
Dune). Again, the album of the same name, written by Pete Townsend and
performed by The Who, is excellent (IMO).
CHRIS
Gene Ehrich wrote:
> At 07:46 PM 11/23/98 -0800, you wrote:
> >Whoa. I'm watching this movie on HBO called "Tommy" it is some crazy
> >stuff! anyone seen this movie before?
>
> Great movie.
>
> Ann Margaret was nominated for best actress Oscar for it.
>
> Written by The Who
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Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 17:27:23 -0800
From: "Romero, Leticia" <lromero@saonet.ucla.edu>
Subject: RE: [MV] end credits
here here! I've always stayed to read each and every person's name in
respect and to pay homage to the hard work (and a lot of bulls**t) they went
through to get their names up there!!
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>
> At 22:30 11/16/98 , you wrote:
> >Yes, the end credits are the best part of the film. On the whole,
> though, I
> >prefer Toy Story.
>
> Doesn't everyone on this list stay through all the credits? There hasn't
> been a movie I can remember in 10 years that I didn't stay through the
> credits for. Not only to pay homage to those responsible (good or bad)
> for
> the movie, but for the occasional ending that is often thrown in for the
> dedicated audience.
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Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 17:49:01 -0500
From: Mel Eperthener <bcassidy@usaor.net>
Subject: Re: [MV] Fw: You have been warned...
At 02.42 AM 24/11/98 PST, Rebecca Bezant wrote:
>if you think this is a hoax, then why dont you download the virus your
self and email us back(on which ever computer it may be) and tell us how it
went, it is the people right to be known of something, cause i recently
downloaded something on my computer and it wiped out all my windows making
it difficult to install everything back in, but even though that was a
small little virus doenst mean there isnt anything bigger that could be to
destroy the big amounts of money that people spent on their machines. They
need to be known about it and need to listen to one that has downloaded the
virus.<
OK, difficult as it may be (considering that this message didn't even come
with the lines formatted correctly, not to be pedantic about it:-), I am
going to be nice here, and not suggest that anyone who downloads a virus
like this take their computer back to the shop they bought it because they
don't deserve to own one (the old-timers here know the story to which this
relates).
First of all, I did NOT say that virii programmes did not exist on the web.
Nor am I saying that the budweiser frogs do NOT contain a virus. However,
anyone with any right to be online should practice BASIC safety methods
that make this message moot.
Nearly two years ago now, my computer was infected by a macro virus
(remember that I mentioned macros?? I am giving you the benefit of the
doubt that you read my entire message, although your reply does leave that
in doubt). It came from someone that I trusted (his newsletter contained a
virus that he got in an airport terminal). And seeing that I do not run MS
Word (just the Reader), the virus did no damage to my computer. However,
it did open my eyes. Before that time, I just did not open any .exe files,
and even now that would probably keep me safe.
First of all, you should have a virus scanning programme on your machine.
If you do not, stop right now, and go download one from a REPUTABLE site
(Netscape, MicroSoft, Tucows, PCWorld, etc). Install it and run a check.
Second, do NOT download any .exe programme that you are unsure of.
Do not allow ANY .exe, .doc, .zip, .com, or similar programme to run on
your system UNLESS AND UNTIL you run your virus scan. Even then, I only
run an .exe programme if I know the source.
Now, if you REALLY want me to, I will download the file in question, run a
virus scan, and tell you what I find. Where should I send the invoice for
services??
If you follow these simple and basic practices, you should have no problems
online. If you don't, you should box up your computer, take it back to
where you bought it, and tell them that you do not deserve to own a computer.
I apologise if this post tramples on any sensitive feelings, as my last
post did. However, after you have been online after more than a few weeks,
you'll see people starting these virii scares over and over again, and you,
too, will tire of them.
Regards,
- --Mel
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Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 17:25:52 -0800
From: Michael Dequina <michael_jordan@geocities.com>
Subject: [MV] The Movie Report#168, 11/24/98
T H E
M O V I E
R E P O R T
#168
NOVEMBER 24, 1998
PLEASE HELP...
...keep the MR and Mr. Brown's Movie Site alive. I am undergoing a
serious funding and resource crisis. Please send any donations (every
little bit does help) to:
Michael Dequina
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You can also help by renting or purchasing videos and DVDs from Reel.com!
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=>T H I S W E E K<=
M O V I E S
- -_Home_Fries_
- -_Enemy_of_the_State_
V I D E O
- -_Doctor_Dolittle_
- -_The_Negotiator_
- -_Sliding_Doors_
Due to some unforeseen server problems, Mr. Brown's Movie Site is currently
down. Hopefully, in a day or two (or less), you can check out links to the
official websites of all the current films, past reviews, exclusive
Hollywood event photos, movie discussion board, movie theme MIDI files, a
comprehensive link section, and more at:
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all movies graded out of four stars (****)
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N E W R E L E A S E S
Hollywood Hotline Featured Review
_Home_Fries_ (PG-13) **
Being fairly tired of the assembly-line product foisted upon us by the
Hollywood studios, I'm generally all in support of something offbeat. But
it's one thing to be offbeat, and another thing entirely to be off-pitch.
The quirky dark comedy _Home_Fries_, I'm afraid, falls under the latter
category.
Don't be fooled by Warner Bros.'s misleading marketing campaign, which
sells this strange film as a light-as-a-feather romance. At the center of
_Home_Fries_ is Henry Lever (Chris Ellis), whose upright dead body is found
in the middle of a field. Harry, who had a heart ailment, was quite
literally scared to death by his two National Guard helicopter pilot
stepsons Dorian (Luke Wilson) and Angus (Jake Busey), who chase him down
with a chopper as a favor to their unhappy mother (Catherine O'Hara).
Since it all happened in the middle of nowhere, there are no witnesses--at
least by eye. Possibly overhearing everything, thanks to some crossed
radio signals, is Sally (Drew Barrymore), a very pregnant young woman who
works the drive-thru at a local burger joint. And, as it always
conveniently happens in the movies, the father of Sally's baby is the late
Henry.
To get close to Sally and find out what she may or may not know, Dorian
takes a job at Burger-Matic himself. But he gets more than he bargained
for, slowly but surely falling for her. _Home_Fries_ could have worked if
writer Vince Gilligan and director Dean Parisot kept things simple and left
the film at that. But real-life loves Wilson and the always-engaging
Barrymore aren't given much breathing room to build an on-screen rapport;
they're all but drowned out by all the strange goings-on that compete for
attention. Lurking in the background and occasionally stepping up to
center stage is the conniving Mrs. Lever, who has a Machiavellian grasp on
Angus, who will do anything he can to make his mother happy--even kill.
Gilligan obviously intended this subplot to give the film an
unconventional, dark edge, but it is largely unfunny, too broadly played,
and too much of what springs from it feels out of place. Does there really
need to be a go-for-broke copter-car chase climax?
While I applaud the filmmakers' ambitions in creating something different,
I cannot help but feel that _Home_Fries_ would have been better if it were
more conventional. Ironically, despite all the quirkiness being bandied
about, it is the film's most conventional aspect--the romance--that
remotely holds any interest. Everything else, as offbeat as it is, is
simply a bore.
IN BRIEF
_Enemy_of_the_State_ (R) *** 1/2
Anyone who thinks that the key to Will Smith's big-screen success lies
solely on his attitude and charisma will be proven wrong once and for all
by his work in Tony Scott's smart, stylish thriller. Aside from a handful
of wry wisecracks delivered in the early going, Smith's Robert Clayton Dean
is a straight arrow, a labor attorney who is hunted down by some shady
government types after coming into possession of a videotape of a
congressman's (Jason Robards) murder. Dean has trouble evading his
pursuers--and their high-tech surveillance equipment--until an equally
shady former NSA agent (Gene Hackman) arrives on the scene to offer some
reluctant help.
As amusing as Hackman and his riff on his character in _The_Conversation_
is, it is with his first appearance (which doesn't come until about an hour
in, if not more) that _Enemy_of_the_State_'s tightly coiled tension begins
to unravel somewhat; there is much more suspense when Dean, a common man
with no combat skills or the like, is called on to evade government
professionals solely on his wits. But on the whole, David Marconi's script
is solid, intelligently bringing up realistic issues regarding privacy
while serving the slam-bang thrills required of any Jerry Bruckheimer
production. Pulling the entire enterprise together is Scott, who uses his
large bag of dazzling visual tricks in good service to the plot; and Smith.
He paints a vivid portrait of paranoia and fear, and his natural presence
and rapport with the audience is invaluable in creating a likable character.
I N C U R R E N T R E L E A S E
(full reviews of the following in past MRs and at the listed URLs)
- -_American_History_X_ (R) *** <MR#162, 10/16/98>
http://www.godamongdirectors.com/mrbrown/movierpt40.html#historyx
- -_Antz_ (PG) *** 1/2 <MR#159, 9/25/98>
http://www.godamongdirectors.com/mrbrown/movierpt39.html#antz
- -_Belly_ (R) ** <MR#165, 11/6/98>
http://www.godamongdirectors.com/mrbrown/movierpt41.html#belly
- -_Beloved_ (R) *** <MR#162, 10/16/98>
http://www.godamongdirectors.com/mrbrown/movierpt40.html#beloved
- -_A_Bug's_Life_ (G) *** 1/2 <MR#167, 11/20/98>
http://www.godamongdirectors.com/mrbrown/movierpt42.html#bugs
- -_The_Cruise_ (PG-13) *** <MR#163, 10/22/98>
http://www.godamongdirectors.com/mrbrown/movierpt41.html#cruise
- -_Elizabeth_ (R) *** 1/2 <MR#162, 10/16/98>
http://www.godamongdirectors.com/mrbrown/movierpt40.html#elizabeth
- -_Happiness_ **** <MR#162, 10/16/98>
http://www.godamongdirectors.com/mrbrown/movierpt40.html#happiness
- -_I_Still_Know_What_You_Did_Last_Summer_ (R) * <MR#165, 11/6/98>
http://www.godamongdirectors.com/mrbrown/movierpt41.html#istillknow
- -_I'll_Be_Home_for_Christmas_ (PG) * 1/2 <MR#166, 11/12/98>
http://www.godamongdirectors.com/mrbrown/movierpt42.html#xmas
- -_John_Carpenter's_Vampires_ (R) * 1/2 <MR#163, 10/22/98>
http://www.godamongdirectors.com/mrbrown/movierpt41.html#vampires
- -_Life_Is_Beautiful_(La_Vita_E_Bella)_ (PG-13) **** <MR#162, 10/16/98>
http://www.godamongdirectors.com/mrbrown/movierpt40.html#vitabella
- -_Living_Out_Loud_ (R) *** <MR#164, 10/29/98>
http://www.godamongdirectors.com/mrbrown/movierpt41.html#living
- -_Meet_Joe_Black_ (PG-13) *** <MR#167, 11/20/98>
http://www.godamongdirectors.com/mrbrown/movierpt42.html#joe
- -_Pleasantville_ (PG-13) *** 1/2 <MR#162, 10/16/98>
http://www.godamongdirectors.com/mrbrown/movierpt40.html#pleasantville
- -_Practical_Magic_ (PG-13) ** <MR#162, 10/16/98>
http://www.godamongdirectors.com/mrbrown/movierpt40.html#magic
- -_The_Rugrats_Movie_ (G) *** <MR#166, 11/12/98>
http://www.godamongdirectors.com/mrbrown/movierpt42.html#rugrats
- -_Rush_Hour_ (PG-13) ** 1/2 <MR#159, 9/25/98>
http://www.godamongdirectors.com/mrbrown/movierpt39.html#rush
- -_The_Siege_ (R) ** 1/2 <MR#164, 10/29/98>
http://www.godamongdirectors.com/mrbrown/movierpt41.html#siege
- -_There's_Something_About_Mary_ (R) *** 1/2 <MR#150, 7/10/98>
http://www.godamongdirectors.com/mrbrown/movierpt36.html#mary
- -_Velvet_Goldmine_ (R) ** 1/2 <MR#165, 11/6/98>
http://www.godamongdirectors.com/mrbrown/movierpt41.html#velvet
- -_Waking_Ned_Devine_ (PG) *** <MR#164, 10/29/98>
http://www.godamongdirectors.com/mrbrown/movierpt41.html#ned
- -_The_Waterboy_ (PG-13) ** <MR#165, 11/6/98>
http://www.godamongdirectors.com/mrbrown/movierpt41.html#waterboy
- -_The_Wizard_of_Oz_ (G) ****
F U T U R E F I L M S
- -_Little_Voice_ (R) *** <MR#164, 10/29/98>
http://www.godamongdirectors.com/mrbrown/movierpt41.html#lv
(December 11)
- -_A_Simple_Plan_ (R) **** <MR#167, 11/20/98>
http://www.godamongdirectors.com/mrbrown/movierpt42.html#plan
(December 4)
O N T H E H O R I Z O N
FRIDAY
_Babe:_Pig_in_the_City_ (G)
The little pig that could hits the big city in this sequel, which has been
dogged by disastrous press following poor test screenings, rush re-edits,
and a cancelled world premiere bash.
_Central_Station_ (R)
Acclaimed Brazilian import in which a woman (Fernanda Montenegro)
befriends a boy searching for his father.
_Home_Fries_ (PG-13) ** <see above review>
Muddled dark comedy about a pregnant fast food worker (Drew Barrymore) who
is romanced by the stepson (Luke Wilson) of her dead lover.
_The_Last_Emperor_ Director's Cut (PG-13) ****
Expanded version of Bernardo Bertolucci's sumptuous 1987 Best Picture
winner about the life of Pu Yi, the last Chinese emperor (played as an
adult by John Lone).
_Ringmaster_ (R)
Jerry Springer makes his not-so-eagerly-awaited big-screen debut playing
himself in this thinly-veiled film version of his popular television fight
fest--I mean, talk show.
_Very_Bad_Things_ (R) ****
Full review in MR#167, 11/20/98; and at:
http://www.godamongdirectors.com/mrbrown/movierpt42.html#bad
Hilarious, flawlessly acted pitch black comedy about a wild Vegas bachelor
party gone horribly wrong. Actor Peter Berg, in his filmmaking debut,
directs Jon Favreau, Cameron Diaz, Christian Slater, Jeremy Piven, Daniel
Stern, Jeanne Tripplehorn, and Leland Orser.
~~~
=>V I D E O<=
N E W T H I S W E E K
_Doctor_Dolittle_ (PG-13) **
Full review in MR#148, 6/26/98; and at:
http://www.godamongdirectors.com/mrbrown/movierpt36.html#dolittle
Rent or buy at Reel.com:
http://www.reel.com/cgi-bin/nph-session.exe?COBRAND=MRBR&OBJECT=moviepage.as
p?MMID=41744
Eddie Murphy scored a surprise box office hit with this miss, a largely
laughless reworking of the 1967 film about a doctor (Murphy) who can talk
to and hear the animals. Something is clearly amiss when the usually
lively and raucous Murphy is called on to play straight man to a bunch of
fuzzy friends. (20th Century Fox Home Entertainment)
_The_Negotiator_ (R) ***
Full review in MR#151, 7/24/98; and at:
http://www.godamongdirectors.com/mrbrown/movierpt37.html#negotiator
Rent or buy at Reel.com:
http://www.reel.com/cgi-bin/nph-session.exe?COBRAND=MRBR&OBJECT=moviepage.as
p?MMID=41558
Tense action thriller in which an ace hostage negotiator (Samuel L.
Jackson) becomes a hostage taker himself after being framed for murder.
Kevin Spacey is a forbidable foil as the negotiator brought in to resolve
the situation. (Warner Home Video)
_Sliding_Doors_ (PG-13) ***
Full review in MR#140, 4/30/98; and at:
http://www.godamongdirectors.com/mrbrown/movierpt33.html#doors
Rent or buy at Reel.com:
http://www.reel.com/cgi-bin/nph-session.exe?COBRAND=MRBR&OBJECT=moviepage.as
p?MMID=40921
Adorable comedy-fantasy exploring two parallel romantic futures of a
London woman (Gwyneth Paltrow). John Hannah, John Lynch, and Jeanne
Tripplehorn also star for writer-director Peter Howitt. (Miramax Home
Entertainment)
~~~
=>N E X T W E E K<=
More reviews...
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>Other WWW sites I work on<
CompuServe Hollywood Hotline: http://www.HollywoodHotline.com
Albany Online: http://www.AlbanyOnline.com
Eyepiece Network: http://www.eyepiece.com
"Life is knowing the toughest competition you ever face is yourself."
- --Michael Jordan
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