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Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 00:46:46 -0500
From: Mel Eperthener <bcassidy@usaor.net>
Subject: [MV] In Negotiations
First off, to get back on topic, I was wondering if anyone has any comments
on The Negotiator (recently released on video). I have liked Kevin
Spacey's work since The Usual Suspects. (One of my all-time favourites.
If you have not seen it, go. Now. You will not be disappointed) I
thought both he and Samuel L Jackson played great characters. Very strong,
and kept you guessing. There have been many suspense movies released
lately. They all could have taken lessons from this film (which I don't
even consider of that genre) on how to keep the audience on the edge of
their seats.
And finally I wish to apolgise to the list for my recent behaviour. I wish
to note that neither the ListMum nor anyone else on the list has complained
to me directly. However, considering the number of lists I am on (and I
even manage a list on which this behaviour is NOT tolerated), *I* should
know better. The conversation has gone to private email, and I just want
to apologise for wasting everyone's time, and to state that I will
endeavour to keep my rants on topic from now on.:-)
Regards,
- --Mel
- --Mel Eperthener
president, Gowanna Multi-media Pty
Please support the endeavour
of a friend and fellow Australian.
Political Corrections by Michael Jaymes Cassidy
http://www.angelfire.com/ma/politicalmusings
____________________________________________
Fear is the path to the Dark Side
Fear leads to anger
Anger leads to hate
Hate leads to sufferring.
- --Yoda, The Phantom Menace
(really cool trailer)
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Date: Sun, 29 Nov 98 03:01:56 PST
From: "Rebecca Bezant" <sunybruk@infoblvd.net>
Subject: Re: [MV] In Negotiations
Well Mel,
There is two movies I would have to agree with you on. When I first =
saw 'The Usual Supects' I was totally blown away. Its sometimes rare to =
come across a real good suspense/mystery like that of Keiser Sosie(or =
however you spell it), Spacey did a excellent job of the two faced Verbal=
Kent, but for those who havent seen it, I'll keep it a mystery for you =
to check out. And I rented 'The Negotiator' and "Doctor Dolittle' on =
Tuesday, and they are also two great movies to check out. 'Doctor Dolittl=
e' although at a short 85 minutes, is enjoyable as Eddie Murphey's other =
'60 movie remake "The Nutty Professor'. Here he plays a People doctor who=
, when he was young was able to commmunicate with animals then his father=
made him forget, after a while later, he grows up and finds out he can =
still talk, but everyone around him thinks he is quite looney. But I am =
sure you all have heard the story so I'll continue on...
'The Negotiator,' I believe is the best hostage movie I have ever seen=
. Not only does it have two of my few favorites actors Sam Jackson and =
Kevin Spacey, but the outcome of the ending is as well totally different =
than what I have expected it like in other hostage movies. I dont really =
want to say anymore about the ending, I don't want get yelled at for spoi=
ling, but the start of the movie is where one of the best hostage negotia=
tors is framed for the murder of his best friend and so he goes and takes=
four people hostage at the city's Internal Affairs so he can find the =
killer and why he was framed. If anyone doesnt feel like they have time =
for sitting through movies with a length of 138 minutes, you better make=
time time, or you will miss one heck of a great movie.
And on a final note, I also rented "The Horse Whisperer'. When this =
movie came out I rememebered reading little articles on it, and I thought=
it would be some boring pony lesson with a lenghth of 168 minutes. So =
I rented it, due to the fact the the only other new release out that week=
was Small Soldiers(which is a real funny film to watch). And I found thi=
s movie to be a real surprise, I found myself upset when the truck hit =
the two girls and the two horses. Along with that, it was interesting how=
the movie went from there with the one girl and one very, grumpy horse =
that lived go to a Montana ranch to get the horse well. The only thing =
about the movie I really didnt care for was the extra 10 minutes focused =
on the small romance between Robert Redford and Kristen Scott Thomas' cha=
racters, did anyone else that seen it found that part a waste since it =
didnt amount to anything?
Tim
- ----------
> First off, to get back on topic, I was wondering if anyone has any comm=
ents
> on The Negotiator (recently released on video). I have liked Kevin
> Spacey's work since The Usual Suspects. (One of my all-time favourites=
.
> If you have not seen it, go. Now. You will not be disappointed) I
> thought both he and Samuel L Jackson played great characters. Very str=
ong,
> and kept you guessing. There have been many suspense movies released
> lately. They all could have taken lessons from this film (which I don'=
t
> even consider of that genre) on how to keep the audience on the edge =
of
> their seats.
>
> And finally I wish to apolgise to the list for my recent behaviour. =
I wish
> to note that neither the ListMum nor anyone else on the list has compla=
ined
> to me directly. However, considering the number of lists I am on (and =
I
> even manage a list on which this behaviour is NOT tolerated), *I* shoul=
d
> know better. The conversation has gone to private email, and I just =
want
> to apologise for wasting everyone's time, and to state that I will
> endeavour to keep my rants on topic from now on.:-)
>
> Regards,
>
> --Mel
>
>
> --Mel Eperthener
> president, Gowanna Multi-media Pty
>
> Please support the endeavour
> of a friend and fellow Australian.
>
> Political Corrections by Michael Jaymes Cassidy
> http://www.angelfire.com/ma/politicalmusings
>
> ____________________________________________
> Fear is the path to the Dark Side
> Fear leads to anger
> Anger leads to hate
> Hate leads to sufferring.
>
> --Yoda, The Phantom Menace
> (really cool trailer)
> ______________________________________________
>
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Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 15:16:43 -0500 (EST)
From: maillist@moviejuice.com
Subject: [MV] MovieJuice! - A Special Invitation for Subscribers
IN PLACE OF THIS WEEK'S MOVIEJUICE, A SPECIAL INVITATION FOR MOVIEJUICE SUBSCRIBERS!
Announcing the first annual JUICIES! An awards ceremony with the tongue firmly planted in cheek. Celebrating the Breast - er - Best of Hollywood in 1998.
And YOU can help us create the awards and pick the winners!
GOT A WACKY CATEGORY?
Have an outlandish category in mind? Something clever and funny? Then send it to us and we'll consider it for our end-of-year awards issue!
GOT A NOMINEE IN MIND?
Know a star turn which deserves a dubiously honorable JUICY? Just send us the name, the film, and why that actor's deserving. And don't expect his/her thanks for the nomination!
JUST REPLY TO THIS EMAIL WITH YOUR SILLY CATEGORIES AND DESERVING NOMINEES!
Reminder: Nothing X-Rated but Hard R is AOK. Anything that smacks of that vacuum-like brain freeze called the MTV Movie Awards will be auto-flamed.
GOOD LUCK!
Next week in MovieJuice! - PSYCHO
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Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 16:20:08 -0800
From: "Jason Cormier" <movieman@netcom.ca>
Subject: Re: [MV] spoilers and their habitats
I hardly find myself "educated" by you at all buddy. I think you need a
Valium for taking this way too seriously...As I said before - half of the
theatre left and did not see some funny bits - I wanted to make sure that
other people who see it - do not leave early. The movie is over...there is
no more surprises left in the movie - no more plot devices left
untangled...it's over. That is not what a spoiler is. A spoiler ruins part
of the movie for you - like finding out who is related to Luke Skywalker.
What you are implying is that any knowledge whatsoever about the movie
before going in is a spoiler - knowing that it's about bug's or that Dave
Foley does the voice of the main character. If this is the case then I
would recommend that you never read another review for the rest of your
life.
- -----Original Message-----
From: Oz <oz@hollywoodbitchslap.com>
To: movies@lists.xmission.com <movies@lists.xmission.com>
Date: Saturday, November 28, 1998 7:22 PM
Subject: Re: [MV] spoilers and their habitats
>Jason Cormier wrote:
>>
>> Chill out bud...I didn't give anything about the movie away at all.
>
>Dude, in evvery review of the movie I've seen (mine included) there
>has been something akin to "don't leave early, the credits are the
>best part of the film". Explaining exactly what they contain is a
>spoiler. Spoilers ruin the surprise for people who haven't seen it
