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movies-digest Sunday, June 21 1998 Volume 02 : Number 036
RE: [MV] Overlooked sequels and remakes
[MV] lost kids on inland movie or book?
Re: [MV] lost kids on inland movie or book?
RE: [MV] Overlooked sequels and remakes
RE>[MV] lost kids on inland movie or book?
Re: RE>[MV] lost kids on inland movie or book?
Re: [MV] lost kids on inland movie or book?
RE: [MV] Overlooked sequels and remakes
RE: [MV] Overlooked sequels and remakes
[MV] X-Files. My opinion (for anyone who cares)
[MV] Woody Allen question
RE: [MV] lost kids on inland movie or book?
Re: [MV] lost kids on inland movie or book?
Re: [MV] x-files reviews
[MV] Visit a great site
[MV] The X-Files Movie / Buzzy's Review
awnser to: Re: [MV] lost kids on inland movie or book?
and a question:Re: [MV] lost kids on inland movie or book?
Re: and a question:Re: [MV] lost kids on inland movie or book?
Re: [MV] X-Files. My opinion (for anyone who cares)
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Date: Sat, 20 Jun 1998 22:31:17 -0500
From: Diane Christy <dchristy10@earthlink.net>
Subject: RE: [MV] Overlooked sequels and remakes
On 6/20/98, 2:47 PM -0500, C J said so nicely:
>I think that there should be a sequal to the movie "My best friends
>wedding". Because none of us wanted it to end that way and i think that
>there would be a good audience who would go and see what else could happen
>to the story.
I liked the ending of "My Best Friend's Wedding" very much. It was
believable and added depth to the characters. I can't say that I would go
to a sequal to this movie.
~~~~~
Diane Christy (Samantha and Joshua's Mom)
Jefferson, LA
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Date: Sat, 20 Jun 1998 22:12:01 -0600
From: "just me!" <kridon00@micron.net>
Subject: [MV] lost kids on inland movie or book?
Hi there....we're looking for a movie and or book about a ship wreck
that leaves a group of kids (military school?) stranded on an island, as
a result of a storm. Evidently all the adults got killed during the
wreck. It is set around the turn of the century. The kids set up a
government that worships a conch. They split into two conflicting
groups that fight over the shell, thus being the controlling party.
They eventually get rescued....end of show. I read this book in 1977,
in a science fiction class. Does anyone remember the name?
Thanks, Mike
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Date: Sun, 21 Jun 1998 01:09:33 -0400
From: Chris Culligan <culligan@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: [MV] lost kids on inland movie or book?
Lord of the Flies
At 10:12 PM 6/20/98 -0600, you wrote:
>Hi there....we're looking for a movie and or book about a ship wreck
>that leaves a group of kids (military school?) stranded on an island, as
>a result of a storm. Evidently all the adults got killed during the
>wreck. It is set around the turn of the century. The kids set up a
>government that worships a conch. They split into two conflicting
>groups that fight over the shell, thus being the controlling party.
>They eventually get rescued....end of show. I read this book in 1977,
>in a science fiction class. Does anyone remember the name?
>
>Thanks, Mike
>
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Date: Sun, 21 Jun 1998 01:13:02 -0400
From: Chris Culligan <culligan@hotmail.com>
Subject: RE: [MV] Overlooked sequels and remakes
I thought "The Thing" was a great remake of the original and one of John
Carpenters better films. I would welcome John Carpenter taking a stab
(pardon the pun) at the "Creature from the Black Lagoon"
CHRIS
At 12:06 PM 6/20/98 -0500, you wrote:
>John Carpenter has been trying to do a remake of "Creature from the Black
>Lagoon" for several years, so you may be seeing one.
>
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Date: 21 Jun 98 17:16:57 +0000
From: BJ Partridge <bj.partridge@kings.ak.school.nz>
Subject: RE>[MV] lost kids on inland movie or book?
RE>[MV] lost kids on inland movie or book? 21/6/98
The Lord of the flies
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Date: 21/6/98 3:55 PM
To: BJ Partridge
From: movies
Hi there....we're looking for a movie and or book about a ship wreck
that leaves a group of kids (military school?) stranded on an island, as
a result of a storm. Evidently all the adults got killed during the
wreck. It is set around the turn of the century. The kids set up a
government that worships a conch. They split into two conflicting
groups that fight over the shell, thus being the controlling party. =
They eventually get rescued....end of show. I read this book in 1977,
in a science fiction class. Does anyone remember the name?
Thanks, Mike
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Date: Sat, 20 Jun 1998 22:31:42 -0700 (PDT)
From: Anita Watts <wk136@victoria.tc.ca>
Subject: Re: RE>[MV] lost kids on inland movie or book?
On 21 Jun 1998, BJ Partridge wrote:
> RE>[MV] lost kids on inland movie or book? 21/6/98
> The Lord of the flies
The black and white older version is IMHO the better version; the
acting in a later color one leaves a *lot* to be desired.
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Date: Sun, 21 Jun 1998 12:20:05 cet
From: "greuel" <greuel@eifel-net.net>
Subject: Re: [MV] lost kids on inland movie or book?
> Lord of the Flies
Yes, as it's been mentioned before. It's the first novel (1954) of William
Golding's who cashed in the Nobel Prize of Literature later on. It's pretty often
used in school. I'm not sure though what you could do with it in a science
lesson - usually it is used to show - fragile society and its barbaric perils - or
something.
There have been two films and the first one is the better one - seems to be a
more or less general opinion.
thomas
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Date: 21 Jun 98 19:55:05 JST
From: P-000132@plato-net.or.jp
Subject: RE: [MV] Overlooked sequels and remakes
Chris Culligan wrote:
> Can anyone think of any other overlooked sequels and remakes??
/* Doctor Dolittle */
But not with Eddie Murphy :-)
I remember I was really pleased with /* Doctor Dolittle */ (1967) in my
childhood. Although some reviews pointed out not a few defects in casts and
directing, I believe it had something irresistibly appealing to children.
Now that CG technique of high quality has been achieved, I expect the
visual reality of speaking and communicating between men and animals can be
realized much better than the 1967 version with Rex Harrison.
P.S.
In spite of my nationality, I have read through all sequels of the original
"Doctor Dolittle" series written by Hugh Lofting in English. I believe we
can find even more interesting plots in them that didn't appear in the
previous film but can be made into fantastic cinematographic expressions!!
Taro // my first posting to this list from Kyoto, Japan
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Date: Sun, 21 Jun 1998 09:50:07 -0400
From: Chris Culligan <culligan@hotmail.com>
Subject: RE: [MV] Overlooked sequels and remakes
You are right, Dr Dolittle was the perfect movie for kids. I wonder how
come they never show it on TV anymore? Willy Wonka and Chitty-Chitty
Bang-Bang are on quite a lot, but I never see Dr. Dolittle playing.
BTW, I must say that I look forward to the Eddie Murphy version of Dr.
Dolittle. The previews, at least, look hilarious. True, it will probably
be a huge departure from the original, but I'm sure the idea of talking
animals will keep my four-year old enthrawled and if it is anywhere near as
funny as Eddie Murphys last movie (What was the name of it?? The Absent
Minded Proffessor??) I know it will keep me in stiches!
At 07:55 PM 6/21/98 JST, you wrote:
>Chris Culligan wrote:
>> Can anyone think of any other overlooked sequels and remakes??
>
>/* Doctor Dolittle */
>But not with Eddie Murphy :-)
>
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Date: Sun, 21 Jun 1998 10:14:54 -0400
From: Chris Culligan <culligan@hotmail.com>
Subject: [MV] X-Files. My opinion (for anyone who cares)
The way I see it, there will be four types of persons who will go see this
film
1) Those that watch the TV show religiously. True X-Files fans (X-philes)
2) Those that watch the TV show when they can. X-Files fans
3) Those that have never watched the TV show
4) Those that don't watch the TV show because they don't like it
Number 1's will like this movie, no question. Number 2's, the category I
fall into, will like this movie, no question. Number 3's may or may not
like this movie (If you're a number 3 and like this movie, it's time to
start watching the television show). Number 4's, the category most
high-brow critics fall under, will not like this movie.
One further note on the 4's. I have read so many reviews of this movie
where the reviewer says before the review "note, I have never been a fan of
the television show" and then they procede to give the movie a bad review.
That bothers me. Why have someone already predisposed to disliking a movie
that is going to be an obvious extension of a television show which they
already don't like, review the movie?? If you want to see this movie
because you like the X-files (and lets face it, who doesn't like the
X-files, except for certain high-brow critics), don't listen to any review
that says somewhere in it "note, I have never been a fan of the television
show". You will like this movie because IT IS the X-files.
Chris Carter has acccomplished much with this movie. He has made a movie
that all 1's and 2's will get into and enjoy and he has also extended his
audience by making a movie that the number 3's MAY like. Who cares about
the number 4's. They're likely out of the main stream anyway.
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Date: Sun, 21 Jun 1998 09:34:19 -0500
From: Melody House <mhouse@mtco.com>
Subject: [MV] Woody Allen question
Hi all!
Yesterday someone posted some info about Woody Allen and like a dink I
accidently deleted it. If that someone would please email me privately
regarding this post I would be grateful.
The post was about a movie (?) or show with Mr. Allen playing jazz music. I
wish I could be more specific but I can't remember the details.
Sorry for bothering all of you about this and thanks for any help you can
give me!
Melody
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Date: Sun, 21 Jun 1998 09:57:48 -0500
From: "Richard J. Doyle" <rdoyle29@msn.com>
Subject: RE: [MV] lost kids on inland movie or book?
"Lord of the Flies"
Richard J. Doyle
Access & Visual Basic Developer
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Subject: [MV] lost kids on inland movie or book?
Hi there....we're looking for a movie and or book about a ship wreck
that leaves a group of kids (military school?) stranded on an island, as
a result of a storm. Evidently all the adults got killed during the
wreck. It is set around the turn of the century. The kids set up a
government that worships a conch. They split into two conflicting
groups that fight over the shell, thus being the controlling party.
They eventually get rescued....end of show. I read this book in 1977,
in a science fiction class. Does anyone remember the name?
Thanks, Mike
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Date: Sun, 21 Jun 1998 10:26:25 -0500
From: Diane Christy <dchristy10@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: [MV] lost kids on inland movie or book?
On 6/20/98, 11:12 PM -0500, just me! said so nicely:
>Hi there....we're looking for a movie and or book about a ship wreck
>that leaves a group of kids (military school?) stranded on an island, as
>a result of a storm. Evidently all the adults got killed during the
>wreck. It is set around the turn of the century. The kids set up a
>government that worships a conch. They split into two conflicting
>groups that fight over the shell, thus being the controlling party.
>They eventually get rescued....end of show. I read this book in 1977,
>in a science fiction class. Does anyone remember the name?
Lord of the Flies
~~~~~
Diane Christy (Samantha and Joshua's Mom)
Jefferson, LA
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mailto:dchristy10@earthlink.net mailto:DChristy1@aol.com
<dkbc10> on AOL Instant Messenger
<dchristy10@earthlink.net> on PeopleLink http://www.peoplelink/v1/
ICQ #12904700
~~~~~
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Date: Sun, 21 Jun 1998 10:01:04 -0700
From: Bill Code <bcode@ampsc.com>
Subject: Re: [MV] x-files reviews
>>Date: Fri, 19 Jun 1998 22:01:41 -0400
>>To: lists@movies.xmission.com
>>From: GARY ZEIG <mlz@nauticom.net>
>>Subject: x-files reviews
>>Cc:
>>Bcc:
>>X-Attachments:
>>
>>I'd like someone who is a real x-files junkie to give their opinion of the
>>movie's worth.
>>Not a casual fan, but someone who is really into the show, like I am.
>>I'm seeing the movie Sunday,so I'll give you my two cents Monday.
>>
>>Gary
>>
>>
I like to think I am a X-junkie (no pun...). I traveled to Vancouver a
couple of times, and was lucky to be invited on to the set. I had friends
that were extras. Anyway, I saw the premiere showing here in sunny Victoria
last Thursday, and I liked the movie lots. Although, it did just seem to me
that it was a regular 2 hour X-Files episode without the continued next
week. They left it wide open for a sequel (of course).
It should be interesting to see where they start next season.
Bill Code
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Date: Sun, 21 Jun 1998 13:14:49 EDT
From: <BzRvueNews@aol.com>
Subject: [MV] The X-Files Movie / Buzzy's Review
The X-Files
Fight The Future
approx. running time 2 hours
starring David Duchovney, Gillian Anderson, Martin Landau, Mitch Pileggi
The screening started at 12:20 P.M. and let out at 2:30 P.M. The theater was
half full with the audience consisting of, for the most part, young adults
from middle teen to middle thirties.
The trailers for upcoming films were fun but couldn't move me from my
anticipatory haze. I wanted Mulder and Scully and nothing but Mulder and
Scully. It took the opening title sequence to make me sit up straight and pay
attention.
FILM SPOILERS AHEAD - FILM SPOILERS AHEAD - YOU'VE BEEN TOLD
Snow plays a factor. Cold, clean, pure snow that seems to serve as a contrast
to the dark, steamy, calculated evil of the government's conspiracy.
The movie starts in the cold. Texas, billions of years in our past. It
quickly moves to darkness, terror, and the black oil. Then on to light,
purity, Fox "Spooky" Mulder and Dana Scully.
The X-Files have been closed due to events in the television series season
finale. Mulder and Scully are working on a terrorist bomb scare. A
subsequent explosion brings light to the conspiracy's dark threads.
As events progress, the relationship between Mulder and Scully becomes more
defined. They share an intimacy that certain longtime married couples might
lack. Even as their relationship is defined to us, the viewer, it becomes
clear that they, in fact, define each other.
Are great truths revealed during the course of this film? Not really. The
plot icons most exposed are, as I mentioned, the government conspiracy and the
black oil. The extent of the conspiracy is made clear with more players
brought to light. While the black oil itself becomes an object playing upon
some of our deepest, most recent, fears of plague as well as the threat of an
unknown microscopic killer waiting in the wings. Also, Mulder's rather
singular beliefs in the unknown are magnified tenfold and confirmed.
Some favorite characters make their appearance. We are treated to The Lone
Gunmen, Cancer Man, and The Well Manicured Man. Their roles are relatively
small because the movie is a Mulder and Scully showcase. However, they are
pivotal to the twists and, most of all, turns of the plot.
Martin Landau does a marvelous take on, what could have been, another Deep
Throat or Fruit Loop of the Week. His character is funny, sad, sweet, and
very real. Mr. Landau is a consummate actor and it shows. His revelations
drive the film onward to it's eventual conclusion.
But as I said, this is a Mulder and Scully showcase. Many want to know if the
rumored kiss actually happens. I'm not telling. You'll have to go and see
for yourself. The film folk do manage to clarify Mulder and Scully's
relationship in a manner that leaves their future direction open.
Is this a fx film? Well, while there are a few, rather magnificent and
disturbing fx, this is not a fx film. The plot is character driven and with
consummate skill. The principals make for a magnificent transition to film.
If you have not watched the television series, will you still like this?
Well, do you like Drama? Oscar caliber performances? Thrills to keep you on
the edge of your seat? I do not see how you could not like it. David
Duchovny magnificently portrays Fox "Spooky" Mulder as an all too human man
with all the emotions and anger thereof. Gillian Anderson's Dana Scully truly
knocked me for a loop. She manages to give us all of Dana's strengths and at
the same time reveal the power in admitted frailty.
I have been hearing rumors of a X-Files and Millennium crossover next season.
If rumor indeed be true then this movie does allow for it but with some major
plot finagling involved. Could such a crossover succeed? While it would be
quite clever, I think that it could be extremely difficult to pull off.
My overall impression of the X-Files Movie is that it is very good. A future
Oscar winner. Though I am vaguely disappointed. All those months of
promotional hype bring in the crowds but promotion can be like sweet frosting
on a bittersweet cake.
But, you know what? Look a little closer and you can see the clever people
who knew that turning this into high gloss would take it away from what the
series has always been about. Honesty.
The X-Files Movie stays true to itself. It gives us entertainment, makes us
wonder, and does so without shying away from big screen generosity.
Buzzy
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Date: Sun, 21 Jun 1998 11:28:35 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Kelly L. Garrett" <garrettk@pacificu.edu>
Subject: awnser to: Re: [MV] lost kids on inland movie or book?
The book and movies- I know of two that have been made, one black and
white, the others is about 8? years old- is called "Lord of the Flies". I
can't remember the name of the author- it's a really intense book and
worth checking out (library?=)
kg
(aka grasshoopper)
On Sat, 20 Jun 1998, just me! wrote:
> Hi there....we're looking for a movie and or book about a ship wreck
> that leaves a group of kids (military school?) stranded on an island, as
> a result of a storm. Evidently all the adults got killed during the
> wreck. It is set around the turn of the century. The kids set up a
> government that worships a conch. They split into two conflicting
> groups that fight over the shell, thus being the controlling party.
> They eventually get rescued....end of show. I read this book in 1977,
> in a science fiction class. Does anyone remember the name?
>
> Thanks, Mike
>
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Date: Sun, 21 Jun 1998 11:33:31 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Kelly L. Garrett" <garrettk@pacificu.edu>
Subject: and a question:Re: [MV] lost kids on inland movie or book?
Sorry, all- I guess I should have checked my e-mail before awnsering the
question about Lord of the Flies 'cause everyone else awnsered it too. Now
i want to add something to Thomas's spiel: there's some Christian
symbolism in the book, too. Simon is suppose to be Christ like, etc...
That and the Bell Jar are probably two of the most intense books I read in
high school. Which brings me to a question: Does anyone know if The Bell
Jar was made into a movie?
kg
On Sun, 21 Jun 1998, greuel wrote:
> > Lord of the Flies
>
>
> Yes, as it's been mentioned before. It's the first novel (1954) of William
> Golding's who cashed in the Nobel Prize of Literature later on. It's pretty often
> used in school. I'm not sure though what you could do with it in a science
> lesson - usually it is used to show - fragile society and its barbaric perils - or
> something.
>
> There have been two films and the first one is the better one - seems to be a
> more or less general opinion.
>
> thomas
>
>
>
> http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/8911/ - abomiNation
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Date: Sun, 21 Jun 1998 12:49:25 -0600
From: just me <kridon00@micron.net>
Subject: Re: and a question:Re: [MV] lost kids on inland movie or book?
What was the Bell Jar about and who wrote it?
Kelly L. Garrett wrote:
>
> Sorry, all- I guess I should have checked my e-mail before awnsering the
> question about Lord of the Flies 'cause everyone else awnsered it too. Now
> i want to add something to Thomas's spiel: there's some Christian
> symbolism in the book, too. Simon is suppose to be Christ like, etc...
> That and the Bell Jar are probably two of the most intense books I read in
> high school. Which brings me to a question: Does anyone know if The Bell
> Jar was made into a movie?
>
> kg
>
> On Sun, 21 Jun 1998, greuel wrote:
>
> > > Lord of the Flies
> >
> >
> > Yes, as it's been mentioned before. It's the first novel (1954) of William
> > Golding's who cashed in the Nobel Prize of Literature later on. It's pretty often
> > used in school. I'm not sure though what you could do with it in a science
> > lesson - usually it is used to show - fragile society and its barbaric perils - or
> > something.
> >
> > There have been two films and the first one is the better one - seems to be a
> > more or less general opinion.
> >
> > thomas
> >
> >
> >
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Date: Sun, 21 Jun 1998 21:37:29 cet
From: "greuel" <greuel@eifel-net.net>
Subject: Re: [MV] X-Files. My opinion (for anyone who cares)
> The way I see it, there will be four types of persons who will go see this
> film
> 4) Those that don't watch the TV show because they don't like it
> One further note on the 4's. I have read so many reviews of this movie
> where the reviewer says before the review "note, I have never been a fan of
> the television show" and then they procede to give the movie a bad review.
> That bothers me. Why have someone already predisposed to disliking a movie
> that is going to be an obvious extension of a television show which they
> already don't like, review the movie?? If you want to see this movie
> because you like the X-files (and lets face it, who doesn't like the
> X-files, except for certain high-brow critics), don't listen to any review
> that says somewhere in it "note, I have never been a fan of the television
> show". You will like this movie because IT IS the X-files.
So that means that unless you give a good review you are not entitled to give
any at all? If a critic states that he has never been a fan, he is simply stressing
that he is impartial. Not being a fan does NOT mean not liking it. Significant
difference. The last TVseries made into film I remember was Twin Peaks.
Obviously a die hard fan of the series would have given it a brilliant review -
although the film was really whacked and few people went to see it.
Maybe there are more high brow - or intelligent people on this globe than you
think, and they might still be open enough to consider watching the film. Those
people would presumably prefer an occasional review by someone who does
not discredit himself by openly admitting to love the series.
thomas
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