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Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 18:44:33 -0700
From: Jason Cormier <movieman@netcom.ca>
Subject: RE: [MV] A new topic - Fritz Lang & Luis Bunuel
Well - I won't respond to your comment about "sucking out loud" but I'm glad you brought up Luis Bunuel - another amazing director whom I enjoy. Has anyone had a tast of the Bunuel? Exterminating Angel is a wild ride about a group of bourgeouis who cannot leave a room in a hous - even though there are no physical restrictions holding them back - it's pretty wierd. Also Phantom of Liberty has got to be one of my favourites - a look at many things in society with a humourous and wierd angle that is told in a vignette style...very cool! Some of his stuff is pretty unapproachable - but those two (plus Un Chien Andalou) are pretty wacky.
jay
At 10:40 AM 4/16/1998 -0400, you wrote:
>I think Luis Bunuel actually directed it. Dali co-wrote, plus I think he
>was actually in it. But is this really as great a flick as everyone
>says? I mean it is kinda whacky, and I'm sure it was quite bizarre and
>"ground-breaking" for its time. However, I think this falls into that
>category of "required films for film school graduates" that simply
>"must" be seen but, in truth, simply suck out loud.
>dave
>
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>> From: Jason Cormier[SMTP:movieman@netcom.ca]
>> Reply To: movies@lists.xmission.com
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>> Subject: Re: [MV] A new topic - Fritz Lang
>>
>> Yeah - Un Chien Andalou was pretty freaky - Mr. Salvador Dali himself
>> concocted that one - as if you couldn't tell with all the ants
>> crawling out of that guy's hand! Seriously check out the others for
>> more Lang geniusness!
>>
>> At 09:04 PM 4/16/1998 -0700, you wrote:
>> >Jason Cormier wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Let's move on shall we?:-)
>> >>
>> >> How many of you are Fritz Lang fans? I love the guy's work -
>> amazing
>> >> stuff! You've probably heard of some of his work like Metropolis
>> (a great
>> >> 1926 futuristic movie about a working class revolt), M (Peter Lorre
>> debut
>> >> as a maniac who whistles a chilling tune), Scarlet Street (Edward
>> G.
>> >> Robinson as a hopeless artist who does bad deeds to get in the good
>> books
>> >> with a girl), Fury (the perfect example of mob mentality), You Only
>> Live
>> >> Once (Awesome - thrill ride!), The Big Heat (hard to find but the
>> big
>> >> daddy-o in the film noir category) and many more...anyone out there
>> see any
>> >> of his flicks? I highly recommend them!
>> >>
>> >> Jay
>> >>
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>> >J,
>> >
>> >I saw "Metroplis" and "M" in film school. Lang was a genius. I'd
>> >provide you with more insights, but it's been awhile since I've seen
>> >either one. The decade of the 20s produced some marvelous,
>> innovative
>> >moments on film. One of my favorites is "La Chien Andelou"
>> >(spelling)
>> >Rich
>> >
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Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 18:56:22 -0700
From: Jason Cormier <movieman@netcom.ca>
Subject: Re: [MV] Fritz Lang
Jakob - what other flicks of his hav you seen? That's his only sci-fi type movie...but he's got a ton of excellent movies!
jay
At 11:25 PM 4/16/1998 +0200, you wrote:
>Jason Cormier wrote:
>>
>> anyone out there see any
>> of his flicks? I highly recommend them!
>
>Yes, I have seen Metropolis and I consider it his best film... It was
>very hard to get hold of this film, I could not rent it anywhere -
>luckily a very small theatre was showing many of his films on one
>weekend.
>
>Yours, Jakob
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Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 18:47:24 -0700
From: Jason Cormier <movieman@netcom.ca>
Subject: Re: [MV] I'm New. & The Abyss
Decent list..but Fifth Element?? I admit - I enjoyed that film for the first 2/3rds but then that crackpot of a character comes in - Chris Tucker - with no point to him at all and ruins the whole film for me....I mean without him I enjoyed it - but now I will never ever see a Chris Tucker film (I just heard that he got paid $11 mil for a flick!!! What the hell is that about!)
jay
At 08:59 AM 4/16/1998 -0700, you wrote:
>Jason,
>
>Well, you did miss a few rounds, so I'll summarize: For me the list includes Blade
>Runner, T1/T2, Abyss, 2001, Starman (although I liked it for its chic-flickness as
>well), Star Wars, Alien, Logan's Run, and Fifth Element was a hoot...not a very
>long list, huh. Well, it isn't often that the sci-fi movies are very good.
>
>It's what happens when you get old and jaded, I guess;)))
>
>Craig
>
>Jason Cormier wrote:
>
>> Okay Craig...now I'm kinda new to the list here - but if you didn't like
>> Aliens...then what is your cup of tea for Sci-fi flicks? Hope this wasn't
>> covered already in recent posts...
>>
>> At 07:15 PM 4/15/1998 -0700, you wrote:
>> >Yep Jason...incoming,
>> >
>> >Got to agree with you on Abyss, but Aliens...nope, predictable...nothing
>> like the
>> >surprise and tension of Alien. IMHO, there is no way Aliens can be
>> better...we
>> >already know how bad these things are, etc. It was just fluffy sci-fi
>> action,
>> >and I love Sigourney Weaver, but alas.
>> >
>> >Craig
>> >
>> >Jason Cormier wrote:
>> >
>> >> I'll grant you the fact that the original Abyss was pretty crappy (esp. the
>> >> ending) but have you seen the director's cut - special edition Abyss? It's
>> >> about 22 minutes longer and explains a lot of things. But maybe this movie
>> >> in general isn't for you if you didn't like Aliens either - possibly one of
>> >> the very few movies that live up to or even exceed the original! Uh oh -
>> >> here comes the cavalcade of responses to that one...
>> >>
>> >> At 03:51 PM 4/15/1998 cet, you wrote:
>> >> >> The standard for special effects is that they are no longer "special."
>> >> What
>> >> >> was special is now expected, therefore Titanic's effects were no more
>> than
>> >> >> they should have been.
>> >> >
>> >> >Interesting point on thespecial FX.
>> >> >
>> >> >> I was very disappointed in Titanic...I am a Cameron fan, and loved what
>> >> he did
>> >> >> in Abyss.
>> >> >
>> >> >I hear so many people say so many good things about The Abyss. I say
>> >> >it recently and thought it was awful. I switched it off towards the
>> >> >end - when Mastrantoni came up with the stupid "I will drown and you
>> >> >will reanimate me" idea that actually worked.
>> >> >I think that Cameron is slightly overrated regardless of Titanic. He
>> >> >was great in T1 and T2, but Aliens and The Abyss did not really
>> >> >convince me. I think he is sacrificing too much character and plot to
>> >> >FX. He is successful and certainly not as bad as Emmerich but he
>> >> >could be better if he cared more for the people. I haven't seen
>> >> >Titanic but from what I hear the plot must be incredibly shallow. It
>> >> >would be interesting to see whether he could make a decent low budget
>> >> >film. I kinda doubt it.
>> >> >
>> >> >So Cameron, if you read this, prove me wrong.
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Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 18:54:12 -0700
From: Jason Cormier <movieman@netcom.ca>
Subject: RE: [MV] Harrison Ford, anyone?
You'll be happy to know then, Anita, that 6 Days, 7 Nights which comes out this summer - is a "blood sweat and cuts" kinda Harrison ford movie - as he is trapped on an island with Anne Heche...in the preview they actually used Indy music!
>> I think Harrison Ford's singular acting talent is the ability to look
>> cool while covered in blood/sweat/cuts etc.
>
> That's it! *That's* his singular acting talent! Easy when you're
>not *really* covered in blood/sweat/cuts etc.....
>
>Anita, wishing there were more Indiana Jones roles for Ford...
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Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 18:52:04 -0700
From: Jason Cormier <movieman@netcom.ca>
Subject: Re: [MV] Harrison Ford, anyone?
Well JRiley...I doubt that you are a bigger fan than I! His next film is 6 Days, Seven Nights with Anne Heche and directed by Ivan Rietmman and his next flick is Random Hearts where he will be a ghost. In your list you forgot a movie in which he was nominated for an Oscar!! Witness! A great flick from Peter Wier - who will have The Truman Show with Carrey out this summer. For the sappy - there's regarding Henry (which was actually pretty good) and Sabrina, for the comedic there's The Frisco Kid with Gene Wilder -Oy!- and Working Girl, and for the suspenseful - let's not forget about Roman Polanski's Frantic!! I'm sure the next few posts are all about this but I haven't read them yet...:-)
At 09:21 AM 4/16/1998 -0700, you wrote:
>Well, I've only been on this list since 4/14, so I don't know if any sort of
>topic has covered this subject before.
>
> To me, Mr. Ford is one of the greatest actors to grace the "big screen"
>with his presence during my lifetime(a meer 23 years :-). From Han Solo to
>Indiana Jones, his role as Rick Deckard in Blade Runner, and a not so
>memorable role in The Mosquito Coast. For those of you who are a die-hard
>fan such as I, you also remember him as Jack Ryan in Patriot Games and Clear
>and Present Danger, and the no-holds barred President of the United States
>in Air Force One. He has also starred in such favorites as the Fugitive, and
>took a rather small roll in Apocalypse Now. Everyone please feel free to
>add to the list ( I know I missed some). Also, does anybody know if he is
>currently working on another film(looking for time period since Air Force
>One's release 'til now)? Well, thanks for your attention. Have a good day.
>
>JRiley
>
>Enjoy, Cheers!
>
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