regarding to what you said about "chris tucker bieng a crackpot of an actor". I personally think that he is a very funny and very comical actor. For instance some movies such as "Money Talks", and "Friday", would not have been good movies without the help of Chris Tucker. Anyone who says that about such a comical actor doesn't know a thing about comedy!!!!!
Fred
(fcheese@bellsouth.net)
Jason Cormier wrote:
> Decent list..but Fifth Element?? I admit - I enjoyed that film for the first 2/3rds but then that crackpot of a character comes in - Chris Tucker - with no point to him at all and ruins the whole film for me....I mean without him I enjoyed it - but now I will never ever see a Chris Tucker film (I just heard that he got paid $11 mil for a flick!!! What the hell is that about!)
>
> jay
>
> At 08:59 AM 4/16/1998 -0700, you wrote:
> >Jason,
> >
> >Well, you did miss a few rounds, so I'll summarize: For me the list includes Blade
> >Runner, T1/T2, Abyss, 2001, Starman (although I liked it for its chic-flickness as
> >well), Star Wars, Alien, Logan's Run, and Fifth Element was a hoot...not a very
> >long list, huh. Well, it isn't often that the sci-fi movies are very good.
> >
> >It's what happens when you get old and jaded, I guess;)))
> >
> >Craig
> >
> >Jason Cormier wrote:
> >
> >> Okay Craig...now I'm kinda new to the list here - but if you didn't like
> >> Aliens...then what is your cup of tea for Sci-fi flicks? Hope this wasn't
> >> covered already in recent posts...
> >>
> >> At 07:15 PM 4/15/1998 -0700, you wrote:
> >> >Yep Jason...incoming,
> >> >
> >> >Got to agree with you on Abyss, but Aliens...nope, predictable...nothing
> >> like the
> >> >surprise and tension of Alien. IMHO, there is no way Aliens can be
> >> better...we
> >> >already know how bad these things are, etc. It was just fluffy sci-fi
> >> action,
> >> >and I love Sigourney Weaver, but alas.
> >> >
> >> >Craig
> >> >
> >> >Jason Cormier wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> I'll grant you the fact that the original Abyss was pretty crappy (esp. the
> >> >> ending) but have you seen the director's cut - special edition Abyss? It's
> >> >> about 22 minutes longer and explains a lot of things. But maybe this movie
> >> >> in general isn't for you if you didn't like Aliens either - possibly one of
> >> >> the very few movies that live up to or even exceed the original! Uh oh -
> >> >> here comes the cavalcade of responses to that one...
> >> >>
> >> >> At 03:51 PM 4/15/1998 cet, you wrote:
> >> >> >> The standard for special effects is that they are no longer "special."
> >> >> What
> >> >> >> was special is now expected, therefore Titanic's effects were no more
> >> than
> >> >> >> they should have been.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Interesting point on thespecial FX.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> I was very disappointed in Titanic...I am a Cameron fan, and loved what
> >> >> he did
> >> >> >> in Abyss.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >I hear so many people say so many good things about The Abyss. I say
> >> >> >it recently and thought it was awful. I switched it off towards the
> >> >> >end - when Mastrantoni came up with the stupid "I will drown and you
> >> >> >will reanimate me" idea that actually worked.
> >> >> >I think that Cameron is slightly overrated regardless of Titanic. He
> >> >> >was great in T1 and T2, but Aliens and The Abyss did not really
> >> >> >convince me. I think he is sacrificing too much character and plot to
> >> >> >FX. He is successful and certainly not as bad as Emmerich but he
> >> >> >could be better if he cared more for the people. I haven't seen
> >> >> >Titanic but from what I hear the plot must be incredibly shallow. It
> >> >> >would be interesting to see whether he could make a decent low budget
> >> >> >film. I kinda doubt it.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >So Cameron, if you read this, prove me wrong.
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Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 01:53:21 -0700
From: Jason Cormier <movieman@netcom.ca>
Subject: Re: [MV] I'm New. & The Abyss
Wow...I'm going to use this letter as blackmail against you someday.
At 07:35 PM 4/16/1998 -0400, you wrote:
>To Jay,
>regarding to what you said about "chris tucker bieng a crackpot of an actor". I personally think that he is a very funny and very comical actor. For instance some movies such as "Money Talks", and "Friday", would not have been good movies without the help of Chris Tucker. Anyone who says that about such a comical actor doesn't know a thing about comedy!!!!!
>Fred
>(fcheese@bellsouth.net)
>
>Jason Cormier wrote:
>
>> Decent list..but Fifth Element?? I admit - I enjoyed that film for the first 2/3rds but then that crackpot of a character comes in - Chris Tucker - with no point to him at all and ruins the whole film for me....I mean without him I enjoyed it - but now I will never ever see a Chris Tucker film (I just heard that he got paid $11 mil for a flick!!! What the hell is that about!)
>>
>> jay
>>
>> At 08:59 AM 4/16/1998 -0700, you wrote:
>> >Jason,
>> >
>> >Well, you did miss a few rounds, so I'll summarize: For me the list includes Blade
>> >Runner, T1/T2, Abyss, 2001, Starman (although I liked it for its chic-flickness as
>> >well), Star Wars, Alien, Logan's Run, and Fifth Element was a hoot...not a very
>> >long list, huh. Well, it isn't often that the sci-fi movies are very good.
>> >
>> >It's what happens when you get old and jaded, I guess;)))
>> >
>> >Craig
>> >
>> >Jason Cormier wrote:
>> >
>> >> Okay Craig...now I'm kinda new to the list here - but if you didn't like
>> >> Aliens...then what is your cup of tea for Sci-fi flicks? Hope this wasn't
>> >> covered already in recent posts...
>> >>
>> >> At 07:15 PM 4/15/1998 -0700, you wrote:
>> >> >Yep Jason...incoming,
>> >> >
>> >> >Got to agree with you on Abyss, but Aliens...nope, predictable...nothing
>> >> like the
>> >> >surprise and tension of Alien. IMHO, there is no way Aliens can be
>> >> better...we
>> >> >already know how bad these things are, etc. It was just fluffy sci-fi
>> >> action,
>> >> >and I love Sigourney Weaver, but alas.
>> >> >
>> >> >Craig
>> >> >
>> >> >Jason Cormier wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> I'll grant you the fact that the original Abyss was pretty crappy (esp. the
>> >> >> ending) but have you seen the director's cut - special edition Abyss? It's
>> >> >> about 22 minutes longer and explains a lot of things. But maybe this movie
>> >> >> in general isn't for you if you didn't like Aliens either - possibly one of
>> >> >> the very few movies that live up to or even exceed the original! Uh oh -
>> >> >> here comes the cavalcade of responses to that one...
>> >> >>
>> >> >> At 03:51 PM 4/15/1998 cet, you wrote:
>> >> >> >> The standard for special effects is that they are no longer "special."
>> >> >> What
>> >> >> >> was special is now expected, therefore Titanic's effects were no more
>> >> than
>> >> >> >> they should have been.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >Interesting point on thespecial FX.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> I was very disappointed in Titanic...I am a Cameron fan, and loved what
>> >> >> he did
>> >> >> >> in Abyss.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >I hear so many people say so many good things about The Abyss. I say
>> >> >> >it recently and thought it was awful. I switched it off towards the
>> >> >> >end - when Mastrantoni came up with the stupid "I will drown and you
>> >> >> >will reanimate me" idea that actually worked.
>> >> >> >I think that Cameron is slightly overrated regardless of Titanic. He
>> >> >> >was great in T1 and T2, but Aliens and The Abyss did not really
>> >> >> >convince me. I think he is sacrificing too much character and plot to
>> >> >> >FX. He is successful and certainly not as bad as Emmerich but he
>> >> >> >could be better if he cared more for the people. I haven't seen
>> >> >> >Titanic but from what I hear the plot must be incredibly shallow. It
>> >> >> >would be interesting to see whether he could make a decent low budget
>> >> >> >film. I kinda doubt it.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >So Cameron, if you read this, prove me wrong.
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Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 01:56:18 -0700
From: Jason Cormier <movieman@netcom.ca>
Subject: Re: [MV] Fritz Lang
They just re-released M in the theatres last year...unfortunately I didn't get a chance to see it but I heard they really cleaned it up and did the subtitles over again - the one that is currently available has very few subtitles compared to the amount of talking that goes on!
jay
At 04:38 PM 4/16/1998 -0400, you wrote:
>At 11.25 PM 16/04/98 +0200, Jakob Straub wrote:
>>
>>Yes, I have seen Metropolis and I consider it his best film... It was
>>very hard to get hold of this film, I could not rent it anywhere -
>>luckily a very small theatre was showing many of his films on one
>>weekend.
>
>You have got to be kidding me!! You live in Germany, and can't get a Lang
>film in the video stores??? The man should be a national hero.
>
>I am working my way up to watching M (where Hitchcock got the idea for
>Psycho), which I have in the subtitled version. However, my German is not
>as good as what it used to be, but I am looking forward to watching it to
>brush up.
>
>Regards,
>
>--Mel
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Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 01:59:45 -0700
From: Jason Cormier <movieman@netcom.ca>
Subject: Re: [MV] A Challenge For You
I'd have to go back alittle whiles in the year to get 3 good movies...The Big Lebowski, Dark City and I'd even throw The Wedding Singer on the list for some obvious fun. But as it stands right now...you're right...not a good selection...not much to look forward to either...this summer is not shaping up to be as big as the past few - that's for sure...Godzilla will obviously do well as will The Avengers...the rest is bleak...
jay
At 11:15 PM 4/16/1998 -0400, you wrote:
>Gary is challenging all on this list to name 3 movies that are currently in
>theatres (not 2nd run, not independent film houses, I'm talking nationwide
>cineplex only) that are worth spending the $8 price of admission on. Gary
>is NOT a cheap person. But I ask you, what value are we actually getting
>for our entertainment dollar?
>
>
>Gary
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Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 02:05:15 -0700
From: Jason Cormier <movieman@netcom.ca>
Subject: Re: [MV] Sci-Fi Lost in Space
Do not...I repeat...do not see this piece of crud movie! I was puttering
along with it for the first while but then it just lost all semblance of
a movie once they introduced this CGI character that became the family
pet - it felt like a sudden interjection of mass commercialism - hey
here's something we can sell to the kiddies...urghhh-save your
dough...for great sci-fi...se if any theatre is still playing Dark City -
great twisted flick...
jay
At 11:56 PM 4/16/1998 -0400, you wrote:
>>>>
<excerpt><smaller>Anybody seen lost in space?
</smaller>
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