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From: owner-mobility-digest@lists.xmission.com (mobility-digest) To: mobility-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: mobility-digest V4 #695 Reply-To: mobility Sender: owner-mobility-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-mobility-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes mobility-digest Tuesday, April 9 2002 Volume 04 : Number 695 Re: (mobility) getiting 18 from FTP (mobility) 18 Re: (mobility) 18 (mobility) quote RE: (mobility) a bit of an opinion on the new album Re: (mobility) getiting 18 from FTP RE: (mobility) getiting 18 from FTP (mobility) Wired Article Re: (mobility) getiting 18 from FTP Re: (mobility) any questions? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 09 Apr 2002 09:11:06 -0700 From: Shaun Rader <DocShasta@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: (mobility) getiting 18 from FTP At 02:35 PM 4/9/2002 +0000, Robert wrote: >Is anyone else having problems getting it. I guess it's >very busy with all of us so curious about the new album. >It said there were 421 users. Wow that seems like a lot!!!! I got the first 8 or 9 tracks or so. My internet connection died on me after that :( But I would have to say after listening to the first 5 tracks (up through Signs Of Love which I think is just awesome) I am very pleased. No disappointment from me so far. I feel like there is an added layer of complexity to some of Moby's new stuff... Stars, Signs of Love, Landing.. all of these seem to have a lot more going on than I'm used to with Moby. I usually think of Moby as simple yet brilliant music and it's exciting to hear some more complexity. I don't mind hearing the signature string pads everywhere as I think they sound beautiful. I'm real glad there doesn't seem to be any Honey/Kelis stuff going on here I really disliked that. I can't wait to hear the rest of the tracks hopefully the album doesn't go downhill after track 5! Shaun _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com - ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2002 09:43:15 -0700 (PDT) From: elissa brown <elissabird@yahoo.com> Subject: (mobility) 18 "18", the track (12), sounds a lot like something that i cant put my finger on, at about 2 minutes 30 into it. does anyone know? sounds like something, a la how in my heart sounds like hymn. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - online filing with TurboTax http://taxes.yahoo.com/ - ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2002 17:46:14 +0100 (BST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Cyberscot?= <cyberscot2002@yahoo.co.uk> Subject: Re: (mobility) 18 OK so I know its been given out a million times but I accidentally deleted it so can I get the address for the ftp site again plese. Cheers --- elissa brown <elissabird@yahoo.com> wrote: > "18", the track (12), sounds a lot like something > that i cant put my finger on, > at about 2 minutes 30 into it. does anyone know? > sounds like something, a la how > in my heart sounds like hymn. > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Tax Center - online filing with TurboTax > http://taxes.yahoo.com/ > > ------------- > To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to > majordomo@xmission.com > with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com - ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2002 19:52:22 +0200 From: "Bart van Eijck" <j.vaneyck@chello.nl> Subject: (mobility) quote Could anybody give me the exact quote in which Moby says something about we have been listening to techno all our lives becuase something with the heartbeat of your mom befre you are bon and the screaming woman when you come out? You know which quote I mean :) I want to use it in a parer I'm going to write on electronic music for school. thanks! Bart - ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 09 Apr 2002 12:12:46 -0700 From: "Matt Olson" <matt@hollowgen.net> Subject: RE: (mobility) a bit of an opinion on the new album - --=====_10183795661798=_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable i'm almost wondering why we have to hear this all over again. i still love= play, and have ever since it came out. but 18 is boring the hell out of= me. "in my heart" is the strongest tune, imho, but it gives me the= feeling of deja-vu... what happened to the innovative muscian known as= moby? popularity perhaps. - -matt *********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** On 4/9/2002 at 12:00 PM chris wrote: Play seemed like a concept album to me and I enjoyed it, I didn=92t think= it was something that needed to be pursued again on a new album though. It=92s almost like now he has become more of an arranger than a musician. chris - -Matt - ------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.hollowgen.net - --=====_10183795661798=_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML xmlns="http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40" xmlns:o = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:w = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:st1 = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags"><HEAD> <META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1"> <META content=Word.Document name=ProgId> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2715.400" name=GENERATOR> <META content="Microsoft Word 10" name=Originator><LINK href="cid:filelist.xml@01C1DFBE.26242D90" rel=File-List><o:SmartTagType name="time" namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags"></o:SmartTagType><o:SmartTagType name="date" namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags"></o:SmartTagType> <STYLE>  </STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY lang=EN-US style="tab-interval: .5in" vLink=purple link=blue> <DIV>i'm almost wondering why we have to hear this all over again. i still love play, and have ever since it came out. but 18 is boring the hell out of me. "in my heart" is the strongest tune, imho, but it gives me the feeling of deja-vu... what happened to the innovative muscian known as moby? popularity perhaps.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>-matt</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>*********** REPLY SEPARATOR ***********<BR><BR>On 4/9/2002 at 12:00 PM chris wrote:</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid"> <DIV class=Section1> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Play seemed like a concept album to me and I enjoyed it, I didnÆt think it was something that needed to be pursued again on a new album though.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">ItÆs almost like now he has become more of an arranger than a musician.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=MsoNormal><SPAN class=SpellE><SPAN class=GramE><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">chris</SPAN></FONT></SPAN></SPAN><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML> <PRE> - -Matt - ------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.hollowgen.net</PRE> - --=====_10183795661798=_-- - ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 09 Apr 2002 12:17:21 -0700 From: "Matt Olson" <matt@hollowgen.net> Subject: Re: (mobility) getiting 18 from FTP > >I feel like there is an added layer of complexity to some of Moby's new >stuff... Stars, Signs of Love, Landing.. all of these seem to have a lot >more going on than I'm used to with Moby. I usually think of Moby as >simple yet brilliant music and it's exciting to hear some more complexity. for some reason, i'm feeling the direct opposite. "stars" is a very weak= song, with sub-par lyrics imo. it's like a really bad 80's song by a= one-man-band... - -Matt - ------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.hollowgen.net - ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2002 12:22:11 -0700 From: "Paradise Cowgirl" <paradise.cowgirl@verizon.net> Subject: RE: (mobility) getiting 18 from FTP This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_00EA_01C1DFC1.2D6AA310 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit If you have access to a Usenet/News server, all the tracks have been posted to alt.binaries.sounds.mp3.2000s; two of the tracks (first and last) are missing the last post but if you can decode without it, they play just fine and you're not missing anything but the fade out. Cheers! -----Original Message----- From: owner-mobility@lists.xmission.com [mailto:owner-mobility@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Robert Taylor Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2002 2:36 PM To: mobility@lists.xmission.com Subject: (mobility) getiting 18 from FTP Is anyone else having problems getting it. I guess it's very busy with all of us so curious about the new album. It said there were 421 users. Wow that seems like a lot!!!! wanting 18 RT - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - -- Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: Click Here ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. - ------=_NextPart_000_00EA_01C1DFC1.2D6AA310 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META HTTP-EQUIV=3D"Content-Type" CONTENT=3D"text/html; = charset=3Diso-8859-1"> <META content=3D"MSHTML 5.50.4915.500" name=3DGENERATOR></HEAD> <BODY> <DIV><SPAN class=3D365042119-09042002><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>If = you have=20 access to a Usenet/News server, all the tracks have been posted to=20 alt.binaries.sounds.mp3.2000s; two of the tracks (first and last) are = missing=20 the last post but if you can decode without it, they play just fine and = you're=20 not missing anything but the fade out.</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=3D365042119-09042002><FONT color=3D#0000ff=20 size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=3D365042119-09042002><FONT color=3D#0000ff=20 size=3D2>Cheers!</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE=20 style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px = solid"> <DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT = size=3D2>-----Original=20 Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> owner-mobility@lists.xmission.com=20 [mailto:owner-mobility@lists.xmission.com]<B>On Behalf Of </B>Robert=20 Taylor<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, April 09, 2002 2:36 PM<BR><B>To:</B>=20 mobility@lists.xmission.com<BR><B>Subject:</B> (mobility) getiting 18 = from=20 FTP<BR><BR></FONT></DIV> <DIV> <DIV>Is anyone else having problems getting it. I guess = it's</DIV> <DIV>very busy with all of us so curious about the new album.</DIV> <DIV>It said there were 421 users. Wow that seems like a = lot!!!!</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>wanting 18</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>RT</DIV></DIV><BR clear=3Dall> <HR> Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: <A=20 href=3D"http://g.msn.com/1HM505401/12">Click Here</A><BR>------------- = To=20 unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with = the line=20 "unsubscribe mobility" in the body.</BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML> - ------=_NextPart_000_00EA_01C1DFC1.2D6AA310-- - ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 09 Apr 2002 12:33:10 -0700 From: Shaun Rader <DocShasta@yahoo.com> Subject: (mobility) Wired Article At 06:27 AM 4/9/2002 -0700, Bri wrote: >here is the link to read the artical > >http://www.wired.com:80/wired/archive/10.05/ That article was really good and offers great insight. I plan to go out and buy the mag today. Here's a quote from the article about 18 (if you don't have time to read the whole thing): Which creates significant anticipation for 18. It will be, for millions of listeners, Moby's second album, not his twelfth. That worries executives at the artist's two labels, V2 and Mute. They don't want familiar production techniques that would make him seem like he was stagnating - or, worse, rehashing a formula. "It was a serious issue," Moby admits. "We had arguments. They didn't want me to have any songs with sampled vocals on them. They were like, 'If you make a Play 2, people are gonna criticize you.'" There's no getting around it: 18 sounds, almost track for track, like Play. It even has the sampled gospel vocals - though in place of the earlier disc's rusticated "Ooh, Lawdys," 18 features more urbane, sexy-sounding shout-outs to the Almighty. Moby insists the echoes are essentially coincidence. "I want to make a good record," he says. "And if it means it has songs similar to things on Play, fine." It is a good record - and if Play hadn't existed, it would be a great record. But if 18 is artistically safe, that may be because there's a lot more riding on it. Thanks to Play's success, Moby is now a far bigger moneymaker than any other artist on V2, his US label, or on Mute, which handles his distribution in the rest of the world. Ditto his managers' firm. That effectively makes him responsible for the dozens of people who work at all three companies. "I never aspired to be an industry," he says. "Sometimes I'll become aware of that, the weight of it - and I'm just one guy." _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com - ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 09 Apr 2002 12:42:41 -0700 From: Shaun Rader <DocShasta@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: (mobility) getiting 18 from FTP At 12:17 PM 4/9/2002 -0700, Matt wrote: >for some reason, i'm feeling the direct opposite. "stars" is a very weak >song, with sub-par lyrics imo. it's like a really bad 80's song by a >one-man-band... I think "Stars" is a very catchy song and grew on me a lot... but I missed the whole 80s music scene so maybe that's why it sounds 'new' to me. I think the way the song builds up to the climax at the end is pretty nice. It's nothing earth shattering but much of Moby's stuff isn't. I think "South Side" has weaker lyrics and enjoy "Stars" much much more.. (since that's the only song on Play I can compare it to). I think "Landing" is the best track from the new single and judging from the number of demos he made for 18 there should be a lot of B-Sides this time around as well. Still after hearing the first 5 tracks of 18 I am very excited and pleased! Do you not think "The Great Escape" and "Signs Of Love" are pretty innovative and new for Moby? Shaun _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com - ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2002 12:53:15 -0700 (PDT) From: BRIAN HOVEY <bhoveyredfive@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: (mobility) any questions? This is the tipicial copout of the music ind. Take Fugzi for ex. never NEVER sold out and yet known i dont want to get into a whole arguement about it bur he has a big enough fan base and has found that play sold well enough to make a carbon copy of it, I just dont want to have to turn on the tv and hear his music on a shitty tv show, on on pop radio, i hate to say it but useing "he wants his music heard by as many people" is fodder. Sorry if i offened. Bri - --- "Scott S." <sandersc@oplin.lib.oh.us> wrote: > I think he wants his music heard by as many people > as possible, and that's typically hard to do on > one's own... > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "BRIAN HOVEY" <bhoveyredfive@yahoo.com> > To: <mobility@lists.xmission.com> > Sent: Tuesday, April 9, 2002 9:07 AM > Subject: Re: (mobility) any questions? > > > > I would like to know why he just wont sever his > ties > > with record companys and form his own where he can > > actually control what and how his music gets used. > > > ------------- > To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to > majordomo@xmission.com > with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ===== __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! 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