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mobility-digest        Friday, November 3 2000        Volume 03 : Number 375



Re: (mobility) thousand
Re: (mobility) someone get the kids off the crack...
Re: (mobility) Moby being evil against nader
RE: (mobility)(Off-topic) Moby being evil against nader
(mobility) discography
Re: (mobility) Moby being evil against nader
RE: (mobility) Moby being evil against nader
(mobility) This Monday 11/6, let's get Moby on TRL!!!
(mobility) Newsweek is clueless

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Date: Fri, 03 Nov 2000 00:03:58 MST
From: "Jonathan Williams" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) thousand

Nicole->
  If I'm not mistaken, I think Thousand appears on the Next is the E single
and on Rare: Collected B-sides (Also in the Guinness Book of World Records)
Both are amazing Cd's buy buy! My theory? He only wrote it to end his shows
with, standing there on his keyboard, waving his hands like a dyslexic kid
on Christmas morning.
- -Jonathan


>From: "*nicole ______" <[e-mail]>
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>Subject: (mobility) thousand
>Date: Thu, 02 Nov 2000 21:12:44 EST
>
>
>being far from knowledgeable concerning all things  moby, i was wondering
>if
>you gurus could help me.  i first heard the song thousand some time ago at
>a
>show and recently found an mp3 of it and I was curious as to what
>album/single or whatever it was on
>thanx
>
>*nicole
>
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Date: Fri, 03 Nov 2000 00:07:27 MST
From: "Jonathan Williams" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) someone get the kids off the crack...

I do love the list for learning, sharing all about Moby. But I also think if
it were up to him, a few side discussions could be tolerated, lets just keep
it to a minimum. That's my two cents anyways.
- -Jonathan


>From: "crowes3" <[e-mail]>
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>To: <[e-mail]>
>Subject: Re: (mobility) someone get the kids off the crack...
>Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2000 22:45:31 -0800
>
>Responding to Mark: Tonight has really been weird: re posts.  Where indeed
>are these people coming from?  Blow-up Moby dolls?  Please.  I've also
>noticed some people who've regularly posted are not now.  Also, private and
>offensive remarks are appearing on the list.  I'm new, I understand new
>people want to introduce themselves, whatever.  I joined the list because
>Moby changed my life and is a brilliant musician and a spiritual man.  I
>joined to learn and share information and love.  Anne
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "mark" <[e-mail]>
>To: <[e-mail]>
>Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2000 9:04 PM
>Subject: (mobility) someone get the kids off the crack...
>
>
> > what the hell is with these posts lately? i mean, come on ppl, get a
>grip.
> > the way this list has gotten lately has already driven off a lot of ppl,
> > and i know some major members may call it quits based on this recent
>crap.
> > i'm just pretty baffled myself. is it just that a new wave of people who
> > have no idea what they're doing here have overrun the list? or are there
> > just a bunch of you that really hate moby and have decided to strike out
> > by dragging down this list?
> >
> > so here's some usefull information in a post like posts should be:
> >
> > * there's rumors of a japanese 3" cd single with a porcelain remix and a
> > couple natural blues remixes (i think that's what was said to be on
> > it). i've ordered a copy, so we'll see what happens.
> > * i'm currently working on a huge searchable database based on the
> > songlist and discography, and if all goes well it's be functional with
> > album cover links and links to every single song (if we can track down
> > the last handfull we're missing). watch for that on mobymusic.com, but
> > don't hold yer breath 'cause there's still a ton of work to be done on
>it.
> > * i've seen "porno", it's a great movie, moby has a few different rolls
>in
> > it. it was all fairly tastefully done, and had some pro-animal-rights
> > stuff thrown in, so i don't see what the hell moby's problem wiht paul
> > over it is, but i don't have too many details on that fiasco, so
> > whatever. the way things have been lately i'm thinking of shifting my
> > obsession over to paul. :P
> >
> > ...see? usefull info, but not drab, and a touch of personal commentery.
> > is that really so hard? maybe. but maybe if it's too much effort ppl
> > should just read the emails and not reply. at least not to the list. you
> > are allowed to reply just to ther sender of a message, remember.
> > anyway, let's get our act together everyone, or there's not gonna be an
> > act left here.
> > oh yes, i remind people that i run another email list where poor conduct
> > results in getting booted, if things stay out of hand here, the proper
> > posters who haven't made their way over yet are welcome to join us.
> > cheers,
> > -mark
> >   (admin of mobymusic.com, owner of moby's soul, and mailing list
>elitist)
> >
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Date: Fri, 03 Nov 2000 00:10:09 MST
From: "Jonathan Williams" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby being evil against nader

I'd love to hear Moby's official stand on the election, why so "pro-gore,
anti-everything else"? Where can I find any of this out? He's an interesting
guy and I like hearing his views, though I don't always agree.
- -Jonathan


>From: "chris" <[e-mail]>
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>To: <[e-mail]>
>Subject: (mobility) Moby being evil against nader
>Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2000 00:16:01 -0800
>
>
>  I find it kind of well stupid for Moby to ask his fans to actually email
>him and ask Ralph Nader to drop out.  I don't understand why Moby is so
>into
>a 2 party system, which gives us just one more choice than communist Russia
>had.  Gore is a dumbass along with Bush, their beliefs aren't that
>different
>and either way nothing is going to change either way.  I don't feel like
>voting for the lesser of the 2 evils.  Moby's main reason for voting for
>Gore, cause Bush was pansy in high school, I mean who gives a shit.  Gore
>has the evil wife that likes to put censorship stickers on everything.
>Moby
>seems to be so against huge corporations but at the same time favors a 2
>party system that is just locked into corporate funding and is owned by
>these companies, like tobacco for starters. Nader has done more than Gore
>ever has for the country and he is only a private citizen.  Is Moby really
>that scared of Gore losing that he is asking the best candidate for the job
>to drop out?  I like Moby for his music, but now I am thinking his Pro-Gore
>thing is getting annoying, especially by asking his fans on his site to
>email Nader to drop out.  I find Thom Yorke's running in front of the
>camera
>with a let ralph debate sign, a bit more democratic.
>
>chris
>
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Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2000 05:08:09 -0500 (EST)
From: John Brooks <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (mobility)(Off-topic) Moby being evil against nader

I agree with Chris here... see, Bush has some dumb things to say, and he
stands for some dumb things, but he's not going to make abortion
illega;. It's going to take a heck of a lot more than one president to
screw our country over. That's just my opinion, of course.

It makes no sense to let our votes drop from Nader just because he's not
going to win. Why not? Because if he gets at least 5% in the election, the
Green party will get federal funding, so maybe he *will* have a chance the
next time around. This election is not just for us to pick the lesser of
the two evils. It's also so that we might show the U.S. Gov't we know
what's good, and we want it. Now.

Letting our votes be changed out of fear is a sneaky, poor tactic. Our
choices are poor, but the only way we're going to fight it is if we make a
choice that is true to our heart and have faith that all will go well no
matter what.

Just my half a nickel rounded down.

Peace,
John Brooks.


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Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2000 14:10:41 +0100
From: "Bart van Eijck" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) discography

Could someone please send me the info on the UK play + b-sides disc?
especially: catalog numbers and the tracktime of "Running"

please don't bother Mobility and send it to my private address:
[e-mail]

thanks


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Date: Fri, 03 Nov 2000 14:46:21 GMT
From: "Steve Giles" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby being evil against nader

>From: "Matt Olson" <[e-mail]>
but if he gets enough votes, he will surely take the win away from Gore.
Now, for any Bush supporters, that's fine.  But for Democrats/Gore backers,
that's a scary thought.
>

In addition to the great comments from John & Chris about why voting for
Nader is not wasting your vote, I'dd like to add a couple brief things
though I promised not to. :)

Nader isn't "taking votes" away from Gore. Nader earns his votes, Gore needs
to earn his.Most polls show 30-40% of Nader voters would be voting Gore,
while 15% for Bush, and the rest independent or not voting at all. So that
5% spoiler for Gore arguement can only amount to 2% or so anyway. If Gore
can't beat the bumbling Texas governor, he doesn't deserve to lead anyhow.

>I can agree with you that their thoughts do seem to not differ too much,
>however, when looking at the facts, you can see that they actually do.
>Bush only comes off as being moderate when his real plans are much much
>different than that of Gore's.  Specifically, women's right to choose.  I
>may not be a woman, but I can say that I would never vote for a person who
>is so anti-choice.
>

Regarding abortion... you should know that Gore was in favor of both Anton
Scalia and Clarence Thomas, the two most conservative justices on the bench.

Also, a few things that Gore & Bush agree on:

- -support WTO & NAFTA (sweatshop labor anyone?)
- -support the War On Drugs (War on People, I think)
- -support the death penalty (Gore acknowledges that the justice system in
flawed, so how can he morally support the death penalty?)
- -support new entertainment rules (censorship? I suspect Gore isn't serious
about it, which is why Hollywood is behind him. If he isn't that's pandering
to demographics for a vote and it's dishonest)
- -agree on foreign policy, (weapons for Columbia, sanctions against Iraq,
siding with the Israelis who buy US weapons, conituing to spend 8 billion
yearly on troops stationed to in Germany when they could be providing
healthcare to 10 million of the 46 million uninsured Americans w/ that
money. Gemrant needs no protection, but people in America need help)
- -both mince words on campaign finance reform (esp. during primaries when
Bradley and McCain were advocating reform) while both raise millions in soft
money. (both have spent or have remaining in their campaign funds over 150
million each, while Nader has 5 million, none of it soft money or PAC
donations. He preaches what he practices, doesn't pander, and doesn't lie.
Amazing, huh?)

So you can see why I won't be listening to Moby's advice and picking Gore to
stay away from Bush. I won't settle for the lesser of two evils, because to
me they are just different flavors of evil. Plus, I don't want to be faced
with the same dilemma in 2004. Here's to 5% and matching funds for the Green
party.

I intended to be brief. Sorry.

Steve

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Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2000 10:12:20 -0500
From: Tim Ellorin <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (mobility) Moby being evil against nader

I like Moby for his music, but now I am
> thinking his Pro-Gore
> thing is getting annoying, especially by asking his fans on
> his site to
> email Nader to drop out.  I find Thom Yorke's running in
> front of the camera
> with a let ralph debate sign, a bit more democratic.
>
Politics?!!!  So I take it you are for Nader, and by posting this to the
list and what you are saying you are just as "guilty" as you are claiming
Moby to be.  The only difference is when Moby gives his Political views he
has a bigger audience than you do or I do.  In your opinion you believe
Nader is best for the job, well that is just great.  In my opinion none of
these liars are fit for the job.  But that is my opinion.  Are you afraid
that Nader may drop out because of email from Moby fans?  I mean come on,
have a little faith in your candidate.  Anyway, I think that it is great
that Moby is not afraid to show his support for the person he feels is best
for the job.

Do you think if Gore were to win Moby would play at the election party?
Wouldn't that be great?  Gore would give his accpetance speach and then say,
"and now for the man of the evening MOBY!"  Then Moby gets up there and
Plays a 3 hour concert!  Vote for Gore and if he wins maybe this will
happen!

Vote for GORE LEIBERMAN so Moby will play a concert for the election
party!!!!

Tim

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Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2000 08:01:24 -0800 (PST)
From: Jason Rubley <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) This Monday 11/6, let's get Moby on TRL!!!

As you probably already know, Moby has a new video for
"South Side" featuring Gwen Stefani. What's the best
thing to do with that video besides watch it? Get it
on MTV's TRL and knock off some teen pop and let
everyone know that Moby rocks! On Monday November 6th
we're going to do this, but we need everyone's help!
On Monday, vote for Moby featuring Gwen Stefani by
calling 1-800-DIAL-MTV between 3 and 3:30pm EST and by
sending your votes by going to
http://www.mtv.com/tubescan/trl/playmysong.jhtml

Tell your friends and help us get Moby on TRL and get
rid off some teen pop! I tried yesterday and got
through 12 times on the phone. Especially from the
3:00-3:15 times try to call. Any help would be
appreciated and maybe we can get Moby on TRL!1

Later,

Jason

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Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2000 08:06:54 -0800 (PST)
From: DJ Paul Simpson <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Newsweek is clueless

(First off, that Moby blow-up doll was funny!)

(Second, politics suck!)

Third, I was reading the new Newsweek and it had a
review thingy of the new Fatboy album. They totally
fucked it up in the first sentence:

something along the lines of "Whether you know it or
not, you've hummed, or at least heard, one of this UK
DJ's songs". Look, that's the kind of sentence you
write in an article about Diane Warren, or somebody
who writes songs for pop superstars rather than sings
them. And come on, everybody who can hear has heard
Fatboy Slim by now, it's not like he's underground or
anything. (Actually, wait, he is, but anyway...)

But anyway, the worst part is, in the article, they
say something about "his success has paved the way for
acts such as Moby."

Well, you all know what's wrong with this, so I'm not
going to even get into it. I suppose the Moby that
released the stunning, unexpected hit "Everything Is
Wrong" was a different Moby, as well as the one who
supposedly came out of nowhere and was like some
techno guy in a past life, but now he was some boring
heavy metal guy who named his album "Animal Rights". I
guess that was a different Moby too. Not to mention
that dance song "Go" from a few years ago.

Media sucks.

These are the same people who were blabbing about some
band called Prodigy that kinda spawned from a gutter
somewhere in summer 1997, and some fad called
"electronica" that they invented, or something. And
then about 2 months later, they declared it dead.
Fuck.

BTW, my next show is probly going to be Tuesday
("Election" Day) from 2-6AM, Eastern, on 89.5 FM or
wpkn.org and it will be the 21st edition of Chester's
Blanket Fort!!!!

ROCK!
DJ PAUL

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ROCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
DJ PAUL, host of Chester's Blanket Fort, 89.5 FM/wpkn.org

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