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mobility-digest         Sunday, August 6 2000         Volume 03 : Number 279



Re: (mobility) SO THEN, WAS MOBY GOOD AT ROLLING ROCK!!!???
RE: (mobility) SO THEN, WAS MOBY GOOD AT ROLLING ROCK!!!???
RE: (mobility) SO THEN, WAS MOBY GOOD AT ROLLING ROCK!!!???
RE: (mobility) SO THEN, WAS MOBY GOOD AT ROLLING ROCK!!!???
(mobility) Rolling Rock Report and Crowd Surfing
Re: (mobility) Rolling Rock Report and Crowd Surfing-kinda OT
Re: (mobility) A few of my favourite things....
Re: (mobility) Being picky...
RE: (mobility) Rolling Rock Report and Crowd Surfing-kinda OT
Re: (mobility) Blue vs. Green
Re: (mobility) Rolling Rock Report and Crowd Surfing-kinda OT

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Date: Sun, 6 Aug 2000 11:05:19 EDT
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Subject: Re: (mobility) SO THEN, WAS MOBY GOOD AT ROLLING ROCK!!!???

you know...what was my one fear of going to the rolling rock festival...i'm
not sure if the experience would have been so great..i did see him at an
outdoor festival in CT last summer and he only played for like 45 minutes,
since there were other bands to play after him....elie

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Date: Sun, 6 Aug 2000 13:09:15 -0700
From: "chris" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (mobility) SO THEN, WAS MOBY GOOD AT ROLLING ROCK!!!???

I watched it on PPV...and like...I mean the performance was good but he had
this big boned soul chick acting like she was singing the samples, and it
was so obvious she wasn';t singing most of them, and it just looked realy
stupid.  And then he climbed all the way to the top of the speaker stacks
and did nothing and climbed right back down.  He did something where he said
the jockas probably think he is a pussy so he played the guitar solo at the
end of come on baby.  But like he had so much energy, and he kept playing
all the chilled out songs.  Like porcelain, why does my heart feel so bad,
natural blue, honey...he did let a breakdancer type guy come on stage for
bodyrock....he also played Go...but that was the only old song.
I recorded it, I might dump it to computer if I have the time.
later
chris

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you know...what was my one fear of going to the rolling rock festival...i'm
not sure if the experience would have been so great..i did see him at an
outdoor festival in CT last summer and he only played for like 45 minutes,
since there were other bands to play after him....elie

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Date: Sun, 6 Aug 2000 12:28:24 -0500 (CDT)
From: theShackofXaq <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (mobility) SO THEN, WAS MOBY GOOD AT ROLLING ROCK!!!???

On Sun, 6 Aug 2000, chris wrote:
> I watched it on PPV...and like...I mean the performance was good but he had
> this big boned soul chick acting like she was singing the samples, and it
> was so obvious she wasn';t singing most of them, and it just looked realy
> stupid.  And then he climbed all the way to the top of the speaker stacks

actually, i think that all the singing-with-samples that moby has been
doing is pretty lame. it would be soooo nice if he let that "big-boned
soul-chick" (as you so demeaningly put it) sing solo. she has a beautiful
and strong voice. a friend of mine mentioned this to him (moby) and i
guess he got a bit nasty about it. he's a bit controling about his sound
and performance (that could be the reason why his show has been the
same for over 5 years..) i personally wish moby would keep
his mouth shut on stage and get real women to sing the parts WITHOUT the
samples. his more spoken word stuff is great for his voice, but face it,
he's a good punk singer and that's that.
i don't understand why he has so many people on stage that only ape the
movments of actual playing. i would like to see him solo with a keyboard
and some congas, or with a big band that all played every part live, with
absolutly no samples. right now, he's just awkward.

                                                    [xaq]

                                   "How do you know that?"
                                         "I followed you."
                                         "I saw know one."
"That is what you should expect to see when I follow you."
                                         Sherlock Holmes

    i'm not being lazy...i'm hard at work charting out a
      vertical world line in four-dimensional space-time.
                                          me-dj/producer


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Date: Sun, 6 Aug 2000 13:40:01 -0700
From: "chris" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (mobility) SO THEN, WAS MOBY GOOD AT ROLLING ROCK!!!???

well ok big boned soulc hick might be a littte deameaning..but it pissed me
off she was doing nothing..I could tell she sang some parts in porcelain but
that was it..I mean she is singing with with why does my heart feel so bad
and I can tell it's the sample cause I can hear the background distortion in
it.  It's like I know the samples are playing off a DAT or something..don't
insult my intelligence by having someone lipsing.  Like on all the songs
like honey, go, james bond whatever..he always does this like scream random
stuff before it climaxes type thing.  And I don't know, it's cool and
all..but like just kick some animal rights stuff or something, because I am
sure like the 90% of the audience probably thinks he is some guy with fatboy
slim as a mentor.  He can play new stuff, but he needs to incorporate songs
that showcase him as a musician live.


chris

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On Sun, 6 Aug 2000, chris wrote:
> I watched it on PPV...and like...I mean the performance was good but he
had
> this big boned soul chick acting like she was singing the samples, and it
> was so obvious she wasn';t singing most of them, and it just looked realy
> stupid.  And then he climbed all the way to the top of the speaker stacks

actually, i think that all the singing-with-samples that moby has been
doing is pretty lame. it would be soooo nice if he let that "big-boned
soul-chick" (as you so demeaningly put it) sing solo. she has a beautiful
and strong voice. a friend of mine mentioned this to him (moby) and i
guess he got a bit nasty about it. he's a bit controling about his sound
and performance (that could be the reason why his show has been the
same for over 5 years..) i personally wish moby would keep
his mouth shut on stage and get real women to sing the parts WITHOUT the
samples. his more spoken word stuff is great for his voice, but face it,
he's a good punk singer and that's that.
i don't understand why he has so many people on stage that only ape the
movments of actual playing. i would like to see him solo with a keyboard
and some congas, or with a big band that all played every part live, with
absolutly no samples. right now, he's just awkward.

                                                    [xaq]

                                   "How do you know that?"
                                         "I followed you."
                                         "I saw know one."
"That is what you should expect to see when I follow you."
                                         Sherlock Holmes

    i'm not being lazy...i'm hard at work charting out a
      vertical world line in four-dimensional space-time.
                                          me-dj/producer


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Date: Sun, 6 Aug 2000 11:12:48 -0700
From: "Shaun Rader" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Rolling Rock Report and Crowd Surfing

> finishing their last song.  After fuel was Moby.  At the begining of the
> concert I was in the back of the front partition, but, after one
> crowd surf in the middle of the the Bond theme, I was deposited in the
front row.

I haven't been to a Moby concert since October but I'm going to his concert
in San Diego (a huge arena if I understand) and I'm concerned about the
crowd surfing.  Do people crowd surf at his concerts or is it only because
that was a festival you went to?

There's nothing worse than a huge arena with moshing & crowd surfing IMO.  I
go to punk rock shows but end up disliking that aspect so much... and it's
heavenly when I go to an electronic concert.  I sure hope there is no pain
factor at Moby concerts now.


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Date: Sun, 6 Aug 2000 14:22:14 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) Rolling Rock Report and Crowd Surfing-kinda OT

This isn't moby related...
I went to a concert, not Moby's, and I stayed away from the pit. I'm pregnant
and I ca'nt get in. I was on the other side of a post to protect myself, and
still got kicked in the eye and my friend even further got kicked on top of
her head from the same surfer. I had pains in my head for 3 days. I don't
like dr.'s though so I don't know what had happened inside there. I dislike
the moshing alot too. I ca'nt do what I like if I'm gettin my ass beat by a
bunch of nincompoops slammin each other.

my .02
Emily

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Date: Sun, 06 Aug 2000 12:01:22 PDT
From: "TIMOTHY C. BUSBEE" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) A few of my favourite things....

10 all time favorite albums :

1. moby - everything is wrong
2. moby - play
3. the human league - greatest hits
4. kraftwerk - autobahn lp
5. depeche mode - singles collection
6. pink floyd - the wall
7. the orb - u.f.off
8. the future sound of london - lifeforms
9. nine inch nails - pretty hate machine
10. moonshine music - classic acid


>From: "Sarah McMullan" <[e-mail]>
>Reply-To: [e-mail]
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>Subject: (mobility) A few of my favourite things....
>Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2000 23:41:56 GMT
>
>It seems that alot of us share similar tastes in music so I was wondering *
>what are your 10 fave albums of all time?
>          * 10 all time fave songs?
>          * most disliked (hate too strong a word?) artists?
>
>Sarah
>
>10 All Time Fave albums
>( In no particular order - that would be just too hard)
>
>* maxinquay - Tricky
>* Protection - Massive Attack
>* Dummy - Portishead
>* Achtung Baby - U2
>* Soundtrack to Immortal Beloved (Beethoven)
>* OK Computer - Radiohead
>* Dark Side of Moon - Pink Floyd
>* 10 - Pearl Jam
>* Disintergration - The Cure
>* Play - Moby
>
>** Into the Night - Julee Cruise ** Slinky - Second Child
>
>10 Fave songs of all time
>(again in no particular order)
>
>* Throw Your Arms Around me - Hunters and Collectors
>* The Ship Song - Nick Cave
>* Glory Box - Portishead
>* Unfinished Sympathy - Massive Attack
>* With or Without You - U2
>* Black - Pearl Jam
>* God Moves Over the Face of the Waters - Moby
>* Without You I'm Nothing - Placebo
>* Love Song - The Cure
>* Power of Love - Frankie Goes to Hollywood
>
>** Secret Garden - Bruce Springsteen ** Sunshower - Chris Cornell
>
>(No room for "Uncle John from Jamaica" by the Vengaboys! Damn!!!! lol)
>
>
>* Most hated artists
>
>* Kenny G
>* Michael Bolton
>* Yanni
>* Korn
>* Phil Collins and Genesis
>* The Eagles
>* The Cranberries
>* Mariah, Shania, Celine
>* Steps
>* Vengaboys and
>* Summer of 69- Bryan Adams or * Love is in the air - John Paul Young
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Date: Sun, 06 Aug 2000 12:07:23 PDT
From: "TIMOTHY C. BUSBEE" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Being picky...

hey sarah
    would u like a tape of some of my music >??? e-mail at
[e-mail] . looks like u are an electronic music junkie
like me too . hope to hear from u sometime ....peace .


                                           - buzzbee -


>From: "Sarah McMullan" <[e-mail]>
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>To: [e-mail]
>Subject: (mobility) Being picky...
>Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2000 22:29:13 GMT
>
>Hi,
>
>At the risk of appearing to be resident list bitch can I suggest that we a)
>stop posting one line (or even one WORD!!!) messages?
>   b) we ammend the subject line to actually give some kind of
>indication what is in teh message and what it is about
>and finally, to the person that was looking for techno....the list you were
>given, whilst containing some excellent artists, is not a list of what
>purists would call "techno" but still give it a listen - well worth it.
>(Just don't call Portishead Techno in public or you will get laughed out of
>town)
>
>* The Chemical Brothers rock - Surrender (the latest one)is their best
>album. (In my and their opinion). Though Dig Your Own Hole is a bit more
>"hardcore". They were originally known as the Dust Brothers and their early
>stuff is under that name ("Exit Planet Dust")
>
>* Liam Hewlett is the dj behind Prodigy - some of his sole stuff and
>remixes
>are pretty cool.
>
>* Aphex Twin is seriously twisted (check out his vids) and VERY good. Dark,
>sinister....
>
>Roni Size, Portishead, Tricky, Massive Attack, Morcheeba, Supreme Beings of
>Leisure and Everything But the Girl are the best examples of British
>triphop. Think lazy Moby dub type stuff. Definetly not Techno.
>
>As for the rest of the list tendered (atari teenage riot, coil, wink,
>kmfdm,
>mdfkm) - yeah all pretty good, particularly Orbital, Under World and New
>World.
>
>Sarah
>(Miss Pedantic 2000)
>
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Date: Sun, 6 Aug 2000 15:06:54 -0700
From: "chris" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (mobility) Rolling Rock Report and Crowd Surfing-kinda OT

those "nincompoops" slamming each other are just getting out built up
energy..not everyone just wants to stand there and bob their heads and
scream like teenage girls.  The artist on stage moves around a lot and in
return the crowd a lot of the times feels the need to also.   Of course some
shows call for it and it some don't.  But just because you don't like it,
don't stereotype it is as this stupid thing.  You may have different ways or
releasing energy you just payed a lot of money to see.
If people pay $50 to beat the shit out of each other while music is going,
more power to them.  Of course it would be nice if there were seperate
sections for this, but then I think people would then be pissed off because
they aren't getting their desired place in front of the stage.  Point is,
you can't make everyone happy.  I wouldn't go to a concert that had no
moshing or crowd surfing allowed when the artist is jumping up and throwing
himself around on stage.  Concerts are made for emotional catharsis for a
lot of people.  It's just something that is inevitable.

chris


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This isn't moby related...
I went to a concert, not Moby's, and I stayed away from the pit. I'm
pregnant
and I ca'nt get in. I was on the other side of a post to protect myself, and
still got kicked in the eye and my friend even further got kicked on top of
her head from the same surfer. I had pains in my head for 3 days. I don't
like dr.'s though so I don't know what had happened inside there. I dislike
the moshing alot too. I ca'nt do what I like if I'm gettin my ass beat by a
bunch of nincompoops slammin each other.

my .02
Emily

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Date: Sun, 6 Aug 2000 15:08:16 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) Blue vs. Green

In a message dated 8/6/00 12:57:51 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
[e-mail] writes:

<< "Perfection Can Be... Really Boring" // <A HREF="http://www.moby.org">Moby<
/A>
  \\
 "Your Into Depression // Cause It Matches Your Eyes" // <A
HREF="http://www.members.tripod.com/~defjef">Deftones</A> \\\
  >>
wow youl ike deftones to, there my fav band

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Date: Sun, 6 Aug 2000 15:15:06 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) Rolling Rock Report and Crowd Surfing-kinda OT

Why can't they understand that some people in the crowd can't be around that?
I was next to a girl in a wheel chair at that show. I always go to the person
in the wheelchair because they always get knocked over. I help keep the
fuckers away from them. I don't appreciate going home with bruises all over
me, and I'm not the one in the pit. I like to be up front, I used to be,
before I got pregnant, and I had bruises all over my ribs, my breasts, my
face, my shins. That's unfair to the rest of the crowd that don't like it. I
don't care if the artist likes it, most of the crowd gets pushed away because
they don't. You can just jump up and down, rather than beat everyone else in
the venue up.
I understand it'll never be stopped. That's why I don't go to shows any more.
Just raves for me.



Later
Emily

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