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mobility-digest        Thursday, April 6 2000        Volume 03 : Number 153



Re: (mobility)80's Metal/90's Alternative...
(mobility) Natural Blues
(mobility) RE: mobility-digest V3 #152
(mobility) MTV site
Re: (mobility) Re:
(mobility) moby on vh1 at work overtime
(mobility) what to do when POP CULTURE rears its ugly heaad...
RE: (mobility) Re:
Re: (mobility) Re:
RE: (mobility) Re:
(mobility) Internet Music Shops
Re: (mobility) what to do when POP CULTURE rears its ugly heaad...
(mobility) Moby mtv show
Re: (mobility) hi!
Re: (mobility) Moby mtv show
Re: (mobility) Moby mtv show
Re: (mobility) Moby mtv show
Re: (mobility) Met Moby in Saginaw
Re: (mobility) RE: mobility-digest V3 #152
RE: (mobility) Moby mtv show
(mobility) Ambient font
(mobility) suCK

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Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2000 18:46:43 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility)80's Metal/90's Alternative...

Is anybody a fan of Vertical Horizon? Jen

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Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2000 19:06:02 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: (mobility) Natural Blues

 <A HREF="http://www.geocities.com/MadisonAvenue/Commercial/6659/audio/">Index
 of /MadisonAvenue/Commercial/6659/audio</A>

finally got it workinmg again!

dj tripp

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Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2000 19:09:10 -0400 (EDT)
From: "ellen t.b." <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) RE: mobility-digest V3 #152

* Name
Ellen
* Age
17
* What is in your Moby collection (or a general idea)
still collecting... rather modest collection so far.
* Where you first heard Moby or how much of a fan you are
quite a while ago. i think he is a wonderful preformer!
* Other artists you like
David Bowie, Patti Smith, Cyndi Lauper, Tori Amos, SP and much much more!
* Any other interesting information you wish to share
hmmmmmmm....... anyone else go to the concert in miami, ohio? and i heard
something about another concert with Smashing Pumpkins. is that just a
rumor?????

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Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2000 19:08:53 -0400
From: [e-mail]
Subject: (mobility) MTV site

Hiya Mobiles,
We were hoping that Moby would soar to the top of TRL today, but no such luck.
Even so, big thanks to all of you who voted. If you happened to hear Carson's
intro, he noted how unusual it was for a video to enter the Top 10 on votes
alone (seems strange, I thought the whole point was that TRL was a request...oh,
never mind). Usually, videos are premiered on TRL and get a push from the early
exposure. Moby did it the old-fashioned way...kinda cool.

Just to let you know, there are some pretty cool music features at www.mtv.com.
Check the Campus Invasion page, remix a few tracks, watch some live footage,
have some laughs, call it a day.
OK, cheers everyone.
Scott

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Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2000 16:31:57 -0700 (PDT)
From: MiCk jONez <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Re:

which woodstock? :)


- --- Chris <[e-mail]> wrote:
> I was...but festivals don't define acts..how do you
> explain the bands at
> woodstock :P
> Chris
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> From: "MiCk jONez" <[e-mail]>
> To: <[e-mail]>
> Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2000 12:55 PM
> Subject: RE: (mobility) Re:
>
>
> > HA!
> >   Moby playing a "pop" festival.....who was the
> guy
> > saying Moby's not pop.....
> >
> > --- "Russell, Shera" <[e-mail]>
> wrote:
> > > Oh.  I'm in the States and never heard of Pink
> Pop.
> > > If you're going, have a
> > > wonderful time.  Thanks for the info.
> > >
> > > Peace, Shera
> > >
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> > > From: Bart van Eijck [mailto:[e-mail]]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2000 1:13 PM
> > > To: [e-mail]
> > > Subject: Re: (mobility) Re:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > >What is Pink Pop?
> > >
> > > Only the greatest pop festival in the
> Netherlands!
> > > :)
> > >
> > > Bart
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
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Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2000 19:59:13 -0400 (EDT)
From: mark <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) moby on vh1 at work overtime

they finally put it up at
http://tm.intervu.net/smirror/vh1/mobyatwork/mobyatwork.rm
of course, my connection's a piece of shit, so i can't listen to it, and
x-file-get doesn't seem to work anymore, so i can't pull it. anyone got a
newer app fer pulling realplayer source files?
keep moving,
    -mark

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     <   www.phonicoid.com/  www.2tone.com/  www.mobymusic.com/  >
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Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2000 17:23:42 -0700 (PDT)
From: Paul Simpson <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) what to do when POP CULTURE rears its ugly heaad...

POP ATTACK!

Solution?

Try these:

MOBY
Massive Atack
Orbital
Tom Waits
Free Jazz
KLF
The Orb
Frank Zappa
Steve Reich
More Moby
KMFDM
Goldie
Cabaret Voltaire
Classical Muzik
Sasha & Digweed
More Moby
Kraftwerk
Kool Keith
Digital Hardcore Recordings
They Might Be Giants
More Moby
CMJ "Certain Damage" and "New Music Monthly" samplers
Dillinja
Autechre
Squarepusher
WPKN 89.5 FM wpkn.org (fundraising season now!)
Brian Eno
More Moby
808 State
Soul Coughing
Beck's "One Foot In The Grave"
╡-ziq (the new aalbum RULES!)
Mr. Oizo
Pixies
Sifl & olly Show
My Bloody Valentine
More Moby
Grateful Dead
Bowery Electric
Sleater Kinney
Spiritualized
Guided By Voices
college radio
etc. you get my point
and of course MORE MOBY
Bye
PAUL SIMPSON
"I am Bender. Please insert girder."
"I am the Red Ninja!"
"I am the walrus"
"I am a scientist", also
"I am a tree"
"I am the ressurection and I am the light"
"I am the message centre, local and direct"
"I am the sun, and the new year, I'm the way home"
"I am a GE lightbulb"
"I AM SANTA CLAUS!"
I have run out of ideas

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Even MTV BIGWIGS have heart attacks!!!!!
SEND EMAIL TO MTV TELLING THEM TO PUT SIFL AND OLLY BACK ON!
ITS THE BEST SHOW ON TELEVISION AND MTV ISNT SHOWING IT!
[e-mail]
Hotel Detective PHIZZO JOBSON from The Ministry of 'Ousinje
(aka >>>>>PAUL<<<<<)

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Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2000 09:15:32 +0900
From: "Stout, Theodore" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (mobility) Re:

Hi there?  What Moby do you have?

Theo

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From: [e-mail] [mailto:[e-mail]]
Sent: 06 April 2000 05:16
To: [e-mail]
Subject: RE: (mobility) Re:


someone, please say hi to me : )

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Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2000 20:27:42 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) Re:

The MOBY BUTTFACE ALbum, i got it just now, but you won't get it for months

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Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2000 09:19:29 +0900
From: "Stout, Theodore" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (mobility) Re:

What are you talking about?

Theo

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The MOBY BUTTFACE ALbum, i got it just now, but you won't get it for months

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Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2000 19:09:47 -0600 (MDT)
From: Ruben A Blanco <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Internet Music Shops

Hey everybody,

Has anybody ever used this Internet shop:
http://www.cdzone.co.uk/
CDZone out of the UK to order any music? How reliable are they?

I am trying to find the Minidisc for:
Chicane -  "Behind The Sun"  XTRAV10MD
It is posted for 11.03 pounds, = $20.55
Anybody know where I can can get it elsewhere? (in the US?)

To keep this as a Moby topic CDZone had an extensive Moby selection with
Moby Promos for sale! I saw this listing:
Moby - Into The Blue(Junior Vasquez)  XL12MUTE179
4.04 Pounds = $6.41 Dollars
Is this a rare find?

There was also a listing for a CD Single called "Pearls of Passion" with
the ID number of 8847672 for 7.01 Pounds. This was under the Moby
releases. (I wonder about what the heck this is?)

Well thanks everybody,

Ruben A. Blanco
[e-mail]
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Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2000 22:07:56 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) what to do when POP CULTURE rears its ugly heaad...

You forgot bT and hybrid

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Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2000 22:47:05 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: (mobility) Moby mtv show

Hey, anyone see the MTV CAMP INV> special? MOby wore my band's T-shirt that I
gave him when i met him in tampa. ( the Powderkegs shirt)
My friend taped it 4 me but did anyone else see it?

- - Alayna

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Date: Wed, 05 Apr 2000 22:45:43 -0400
From: Matthew Brown <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) hi!

hey yo im 20

[e-mail] wrote:
>
> Hi, My name is Aaron and I'm almost 20yrs old.
> Go is the best song ever.
> Please someone say hi to me.

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Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2000 19:56:33 -0700 (PDT)
From: bjorkdoll <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby mtv show

hi.  i saw it... didn't quite notice the tee he was wearing though.
speaking of which; what size shirt would you say he wears?  i want to make
one for him for the next time he comes to town (::cross fingers::
*hope*hope*)

what kind of music does your band play?
sarah
"...a fountain of blood in the shape of a girl..."
[  http://www.gurlpages.com/nolabel/bjorkdoll/  ]

On Wed, 5 Apr 2000 [e-mail] wrote:

> Hey, anyone see the MTV CAMP INV> special? MOby wore my band's T-shirt that I
> gave him when i met him in tampa. ( the Powderkegs shirt)
> My friend taped it 4 me but did anyone else see it?
>
> - Alayna
>
>

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Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2000 22:58:24 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby mtv show

we play rock. i don't know what we are exactly. we're like luscious jackson
but heavier sometimes with crazy effects. he wears medium.

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Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2000 23:19:23 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby mtv show

I got the Camp. Inv. taped but I have yet to watch it...Jen

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Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2000 19:40:17 -0400
From: "Mike A7" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Met Moby in Saginaw

Matthew Brown <[e-mail]> wrote:
> so when will moby be touring on his own?

He said around September in the States after they get back from touring the
European festival circuit :)

MikeA

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Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2000 23:49:31 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) RE: mobility-digest V3 #152

In a message dated 4/5/00 4:11:19 PM Pacific Daylight Time,=20
[e-mail] writes:

<< hmmmmmmm....... anyone else go to the concert in miami, ohio?  >>
=20
I did! Met Moby before he went on. He was walking from his bus. Had on the=20
nicest gray/white hooded sweatshirt with the hood up.VERYnice glasses. He=20
looked really nice...all clean and healthy and stuff. Very nice. Did I say=20
nice?? Anyways...... we (husband and I ) were talking with the security as h=
e=20
came to the doors to go on in. He was keeping a low profile but I=20
said,"Moby??" and he turned to look and said, "yes?" He IS very quiet and I=20
felt a bit awkward but I did manage to  say Hi!! Nice to meet you (blah=20
blah).and  I had sort of reached out and shook his hand and then he reached=20
out and shook my husbands hand. I told him we were looking forward to the=20
concert...commented on the weather turning cold (exciting stuff, huh!?) whic=
h=20
he rolled his eyes and agreed on that. Told him we loved his music and he=20
said he had to get indoors so we said goodbye. He has very soulful eyes...he=
=20
has a calming presence I think. (-:
   Now to tell you what happened BEFORE Moby came out of his bus....My=20
husband and I were hanging around the buses (4) in hopes of saying hi to Mob=
y=20
after hearing all of you and your nice experiences meeting him. As we were=20
hanging around a guy comes out of a bus. I suggest we go up and ask if Moby=20
is in the hall yet. So we say something like,"hey do you know if Moby is=20
still in the bus?" and then my husband says (pointing to me), "this girl is=20
one of Moby's biggest fans on the planet." The guy doesnt really respond (al=
l=20
this time we are walking along beside him and I'm thinking he is Staff or=20
something) so we sort of leave off walking with him. We head to the security=
=20
at the back door and begin to ask  them about Moby. The girl there says to=20
the other guard, "hey that was Gavin that just went in." We asked,"just now?=
=20
That guy that went in just now?" We had no clue!! We told them the story.The=
y=20
cracked up. Later after Moby played ( he seemed a bit rushed I=20
felt..especially after seeing him in a small club and so talkative all night=
=20
long and him playing a much longer set) we walked around the hall in hopes o=
f=20
seeing Moby and also to get a bumper sticker. We bump into Spinbad who was=20
VERY nice. We chatted for ages. We told him the Gavin story and he laughed!=20
Said he'd pass it on to Moby. Spinbad said they loved touring.He said it was=
=20
awesome but you get tired..he said a few nights in his own bed would be=20
great. I said if they were in town longer I'd have them for dinner. (wishful=
=20
thinking...but don't you agree that Moby is just the type that makes you wan=
t=20
to do such a thing?)
       So after Bush we headed to the buses and waited for quite awhile( not=
=20
long enough since I read here that Moby actually invited ones into the bus=20
later on....crud!!!!) We DID see him enter the bus and no one but me=20
recognized him and I yelled Moby! He turned and waved and  I said Great=20
concert!! He said thanx and thats the end....cept...we got a few cute=20
keychains free from 97.7..nice of em.=20
        Moby was great but I liked his concert at Electra better. Much=20
better. It was a club and had a dance floor and all.

Also....I thought Bush was fantastic and I've never been a fan.If you were a=
=20
Bush fan I'd guess you'd have been pretty satisfied with his performance. I=20
could be way off base. He was all over the place. His voice....so powerful.

ok then....I believe I rambled on quite a bit.....sorry If I bored you all.
Anyone know if the MTV campus invasion stuff will repeat on MTV for any=20
length of time?


So this is goodbye........Cheri =DC

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Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2000 00:18:35 -0400
From: "Eric M. Goldberg" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (mobility) Moby mtv show

yeah i remember u :)
i was the other dork giving him my cd also.
that was a damn cool thing he did though.

i was impressed that they actually talked to moby for so long too.
i thought they'd interview bush more..
moby playin on the playstation was kinda funny.

peace

Eric
[e-mail]
http://www.tonematrix.com


> -----Original Message-----
> From: [e-mail]
> [mailto:[e-mail]]On Behalf Of
> [e-mail]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2000 10:47 PM
> To: [e-mail]; [e-mail]
> Subject: (mobility) Moby mtv show
>
>
> Hey, anyone see the MTV CAMP INV> special? MOby wore my band's
> T-shirt that I
> gave him when i met him in tampa. ( the Powderkegs shirt)
> My friend taped it 4 me but did anyone else see it?
>
> - Alayna
>

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Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2000 23:30:14 -0500
From: John Turpin <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Ambient font

Some people have asked before about the font used on _Ambient_... here it is:

http://www.redrival.com/octoberzone/footnote/f-ambient.htm

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Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2000 02:32:17 -0500 (CDT)
From: theShackofXaq <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) suCK

in the march 2000 issue of mixmag, pg 16-17, is a calvin klein
(CK) ad. moby stands in a jesus christ pose in "dirty denim" jean
pants and jean jacket with no shirt and sneakers. behind him is an
apocalyptic purple sky dotted with high tension power lines.
moby's face portrays self important boredom.
i have never been so insulted, angered, and disillusioned in my
life.
when i first saw this ad, i was prepared to burn my entire (and quite
substantial) moby collection. this ad goes against absolutely everything
moby has talked and written about in his lengthy liner notes and in
interviews, as well as some of his music.
calvin klein is possibly the most oppressive fashion machine in current
operation. on a daily basis, it crushes the creativity of young
children, making them think that by being part of the crowd, they will
be loved. popular logos mean love. not faith, or friendship, or
understanding, but a logo.
moby is now a logo. i hate him for it.
somehow i've been able to follow his move into the mainstream without
any great difficulty. maybe it's because he hasn't actually put himself
physically into the product. it's usually just his music playing lightly
in the background. this, however, i cannot let pass.
again, everything about this ad is 100% opposite to what we have come to
think of as moby. first off, CK is notorious for its kiddy porn ads. the
younger the better, probably because children have money to burn and
parents to drive them to the malls. fortunately, they also have
unlimited potential to learn and understand for themselves.
unfortunately this potential is being destroyed bit by bit by the logos,
CK and tommy being the most often at the scene of the crime.
second, moby stands in front of a bleak cityscape. moby has always said
he loves the city, but in this doomsday setting it becomes oppressive
and acidic, perhaps relating to the "dirty denim" tagline. he's not in a
park or in front of a blue, puffy clouded sky. it's purple, grey and
white.
finally, and most unforgivable of all, is his pose. moby stands with his
arms outstretched. his hands are slightly bent, as if he's holding
something over his shoulders. his head is slightly tilted towards the
ground. his expression is disconnected and blank. the connection should
be obvious. christ on the cross. christ wearing a logo.
can you fucking DIG IT?
moby, who has never been a real friend of the church but always thanked
christ in the liner notes of every one of his albums, has prostituted
himself and christ out to a logo. it's like nike putting a swoosh over
christ's head on "the last supper" and running it in a magazine. "just
eat it." can you imagine?
now, it may be easy to dismiss this as just another ad, and to tell you
the truth, i've calmed down about it a lot over the past three days.
it still really bothers me though.
this is such an out of character move for moby. is the money realty THAT
good and that important to him? for me, it has really lowered my opinion
of him.
basically, around the time of "everything is wrong," moby changed my
life. he showed me that intelligent, drug free, eco-aware people can
make techno, yes TECHNO, very interesting to LISTEN TO, and dance to. he
changed me from a depressed heavy metal/industrial kid to an optimistic,
happy dance kid. i thought that even *I* may be able to write this
amazing music. i couldn't get enough of it. it made me dance and cry at
the same time. i thought "this gut is so HONEST!" it wasn't about being
cool or posing or being part of some mass-mind scene or a logo. it was
pure expression.
now he's in an ad put together by the most powerful youth-brain-washing-
individuality-sucking-mass-mind-creating-machine around.
WHAT THE HELL HAPPENED?
has moby finally sold out? will he be in the next mcdonalds ad, big mac
in one hand, diet coke in the other, bloody juice running down his chin,
with grimace shoving twenty dollar bills into his pockets?
i know that moby is only human. i know that he has to be able to live
life like a regular guy and not have his every movement scrutinized.
this isn't about my need for moby to be a god, to be perfect, or to
never change. i do have my OWN life. but everyone grows up looking to
someone else to show them the right way to live, and moby needs to
remember that HE is the one being looked up to. i can look at this ad
and not want to go buy ck products. not everyone can say the same. not
everyone knows about the terrible things these fashion companies do,
both physically AND mentally, to children and to models, both of which
are mostly women, who moby has of course spoken out for. i had thought
that moby was against oppression and conformatism and mindless fashion.
i guess he's changed.

[xaq]
"the solitary creator, dreaming his or her dream,
          unaided, seems to me to be the
                only artist we can trust."
               Harlan Ellison-writer
"i think a lot, but it never helps me, so i stop.
             but i really enjoy thinking."
             Masafumi Sanai-photographer

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