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mobility-digest       Monday, February 14 2000       Volume 03 : Number 101



(mobility) GO rip off
Re: (mobility) GO rip off
Re: (mobility) GO rip off (not a Go rip off)
(mobility) Re: mobility-digest V3 #100
RE: (mobility) GO rip off
(mobility) Re: mobility-digest V3 #100
Re: (mobility) suggested music
(mobility) Moby on Tv.
Re: (mobility) Moby on Tv.
Re: (mobility) Moby on Tv.
RE: (mobility) Moby on Tv.
Re: (mobility) GO rip off (not a Go rip off)
(mobility) Daily Show
Re: (mobility) Daily Show
Re: (mobility) Daily Show
(mobility) comedy central / VEGAN

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Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 15:07:43 -0500
From: Matthew <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) GO rip off

Go has samples from Twin Peak and more specifically the Laura Palmer theme :)
So it's prob more the other way around, Go samples Laura Palmer's theme.

just my 2 cents
(all it's worth)

- -matt


>Just curious, this isnt the original theme that Moby got the string chords
>from is it?
>Originally composed by Angelo Badalamenti for Twin Peaks.
>or is this some other electronic beat driven one?
>
>What are the credits?
>
>
>Eric
>[e-mail]
>www.tonematrix.com
>
>
>
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [e-mail]
> > [mailto:[e-mail]]On Behalf Of Robert Taylor
> > Sent: Monday, February 14, 2000 2:44 PM
> > To: [e-mail]
> > Subject: (mobility) GO rip off
> >
> >
> > I found a very funny CD today.
> > It's called "Laura Palmer's Theme" - FKW
> >
> > The track listing is:
> > 1.Laura Palmer's Theme (master edit)
> > 2.Laura Palmer's Theme (tin man kick in mix)
> > 3.Laura Palmer's Theme (tk go 94 mix)
> >
> > It's a complete ripoff of Moby's "GO"
> > The strings are different, as well as the GO sample,
> > but it's all organized the same way.
> >
> > Got it for a buck/99.
> >
> > RT
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Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 14:07:07 -0600
From: Christopher Michael Bourke <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) GO rip off

> I found a very funny CD today.
> It's called "Laura Palmer's Theme" - FKW
>
> The track listing is:
> 1.Laura Palmer's Theme (master edit)
> 2.Laura Palmer's Theme (tin man kick in mix)
> 3.Laura Palmer's Theme (tk go 94 mix)
>
> It's a complete ripoff of Moby's "GO"
> The strings are different, as well as the GO sample,
> but it's all organized the same way.
>
> Got it for a buck/99.


HAHAHAHAHAHA!  That's the original that Moby SAMPLED from--its from the
David Lynch series, "Twin Peaks".  In which the story centers around the
murder of Laura Palmer, it fucking kicks arse!  The original composition was
done by Angelo Badalamenti, who does many film scores and has done most of
Lynch's film scores.  So no, It's not a rip off, but if you want to use such
terms then I guess MOBY would be the rip-off-er;  I don't consider sampling
to be a rip off though, unless it takes an entire melody without
manipulation.

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Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 13:47:16 -0700
From: kimby <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) GO rip off (not a Go rip off)

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Robert Taylor wrote:

> >I found a very funny CD today.
> >It's called "Laura Palmer's Theme" - FKW
>
> >The track listing is:
> >1.Laura Palmer's Theme (master edit)
> >2.Laura Palmer's Theme (tin man kick in mix)
> >3.Laura Palmer's Theme (tk go 94 mix)
>
> >It's a complete ripoff of Moby's "GO"
> >The strings are different, as well as the GO sample,
> >but it's all organized the same way.

Um, no.  Laura Palmer's Theme is from Twin Peaks (circa early 90's) and
it was written by Angelo Badalamenti (sp?).  Moby coped it off.  I
didn't know that there were remixes of the original Laura's theme!
Weird.  Check out the label and see how wrote the oringinal.  It
*should* say A.B. and maybe something about Twin Peaks.

I hope that clears things up for you.  Twin Peaks was a great show and
Laura's theme is totally haunting.

- --kimby

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Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 20:51:38 +0000
From: TOMB <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Re: mobility-digest V3 #100

> and prior to that i heard the Oakenfold remix of
> "Natural Blues"! unfortunately, this one is a bit
> lame. its an average trance tune, with a tiny bit o
> the drum sounds, and the NB vocals cut up so they
> would fit on a 4our-to-the-floor beat. why? this isnt
> a dance tune! its a downtempo tune! ick. i think if
> someone were to do a trance remix of NB, they would
> expand on the chord progression/string type part that
> hapens after the "brother was dead" line.... that
> whipped up into a nice trancey tune (perhaps by
> Sasha)would rock. whatever, i'm not too big on trance
> anyway. oh well. 3/10
>
I like Natural Blues Oakenfold thing, you should listen to the end with
the beautiful piano

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Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 16:04:41 -0500
From: "Eric M. Goldberg" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (mobility) GO rip off

> Go has samples from Twin Peak and more specifically the Laura
> Palmer theme :)
> So it's prob more the other way around, Go samples Laura Palmer's theme.

isnt that what i said? anyways,
What moby did could kind of be considered a rip off, but that chord
progression is so common that its been used in other songs, films, and
anything musical almost..  also Angelo's original theme progresses more.
its not just the minor chord with 3 different notes.. i dont know the
technical term, but basically if u play a minor chord (im using cminor), but
raise the 3rd a half step, u get the first chord. the second chord is the
root position of the minor chord, and the third chord has the 3rd raised 3
steps. at least thats the way i can play it.
but the original theme really progresses into a beautiful string/piano
piece.
in fact its even haunting when you watch the series (twin peaks).  i wish i
could watch the reruns again, it truly was an odd and interesting series.

but i've heard that sort of chord progression in other films and other
electronic bands, basically just different rhythms.
and with all the GO remixes, Moby truly justified that he didn't rip it off.
He was just creative with it.  In fact I think Angelo actually liked it.

oh here actually i was just playing it and if u have a keyboard heres an
easy way of playing it.
three notes make up the basic chord.
1st chord - A, C, F
2nd chord - A, C, E
3rd chord - A, C, G
and then back to the 2nd chord. - A, C, E
and rinse and repeat! :)
and to add to the drama, when u get to that last A, C, E minor chord, if u
can get a low A piano note in there, it basically mimics what Angelo did :)

if you havent heard the theme, i definately recommend listening to it, if i
can find my copy maybe i'll upload it to that moby ftp site, everyones been
going to lately.

laters,
eric
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>
>
> >Just curious, this isnt the original theme that Moby got the
> string chords
> >from is it?
> >Originally composed by Angelo Badalamenti for Twin Peaks.
> >or is this some other electronic beat driven one?
> >
> >What are the credits?
> >
> >
> >Eric
> >[e-mail]
> >www.tonematrix.com
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: [e-mail]
> > > [mailto:[e-mail]]On Behalf Of Robert Taylor
> > > Sent: Monday, February 14, 2000 2:44 PM
> > > To: [e-mail]
> > > Subject: (mobility) GO rip off
> > >
> > >
> > > I found a very funny CD today.
> > > It's called "Laura Palmer's Theme" - FKW
> > >
> > > The track listing is:
> > > 1.Laura Palmer's Theme (master edit)
> > > 2.Laura Palmer's Theme (tin man kick in mix)
> > > 3.Laura Palmer's Theme (tk go 94 mix)
> > >
> > > It's a complete ripoff of Moby's "GO"
> > > The strings are different, as well as the GO sample,
> > > but it's all organized the same way.
> > >
> > > Got it for a buck/99.
> > >
> > > RT
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> > >
> >
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Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 12:39:05 -0800 (PST)
From: Ken gerleve <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Re: mobility-digest V3 #100

Hello All,

     I wanted to introduce myself, and since I am
subscribed to the digest version, I may not respond to
threads regularly, so I'll apologize in advance for
that.  My name is Ken, I'm 23 and I've been listening
to Moby for a few years now.  I'm not the biggest Moby
Fan per se, but I'm interested enough to try to glean
more information; so here I am.
      Mostly, my musical tastes are more on the avant
garde or dark side of "electronica."  My favourite
bands (though not in this order necessarily) are
Recoil, Massive Attack, Stereolab, Portishead, Depeche
Mode, Kraftwerk, Eno and Gary Numan.  I also like
Einsturzende Neubauten, Nitzer Ebb, Gus Gus, Talvin
Singh, Radiohead, Air, Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds,
Diamanda Galas, Lydia Lunch, Skinny Puppy, and Front
242.
      My initial introduction to Moby was with a track
that he collaborated on for Alan Wilder's (formerly of
Depeche Mode, now Recoil,)'Bloodlines'; "the
Defector".  Since the release of Play, I've noticed
other similarities between the two.  Alan Wilder's
work in Recoil often combines the darker aspects of
techno and trip-hop and blends them with bluesy/spoken
word vocalists.  His work is often described as
filmic; its very visual, like a soundtrack to a movie.
      The similarity to Moby and Recoil's approach to
the appropriation of old blues tracks with electronic
music seems at first to be derivative, but I don't
think they take the tracks into the same directions.
      I'd definately suggest that anyone interested in
this kind of music check out www.recoil.co.uk .
Alan's also got a new LP entitled 'Liquid' coming out
in March; you can listen to a few tracks as mp3 clips
on his site.


Anyway, I look forward to participating on this list!
Thanks
Ken
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Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 16:40:00 -0600
From: johnny synth <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) suggested music

squarepusher is pretty hyper

On Sat, 12 Feb 2000 21:18:11 EST [e-mail] writes:
> one of my favs is meat beat manifesto, as well as the future sound of
> london,
> aphex twin, cassius, and air.
>
> orgnalfire
> orgnalfires wildfire
> http://members.theglobe.com/orgnalfire/
>

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Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 15:01:09 -0800 (PST)
From: megan check <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Moby on Tv.

Moby is going to be on the daily show with jon stewart
tonight at 11.
- --- Matthew <[e-mail]> wrote:
> Go has samples from Twin Peak and more specifically
> the Laura Palmer theme :)
> So it's prob more the other way around, Go samples
> Laura Palmer's theme.
>
> just my 2 cents
> (all it's worth)
>
> -matt
>
>
> >Just curious, this isnt the original theme that
> Moby got the string chords
> >from is it?
> >Originally composed by Angelo Badalamenti for Twin
> Peaks.
> >or is this some other electronic beat driven one?
> >
> >What are the credits?
> >
> >
> >Eric
> >[e-mail]
> >www.tonematrix.com
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: [e-mail]
> > > [mailto:[e-mail]]On
> Behalf Of Robert Taylor
> > > Sent: Monday, February 14, 2000 2:44 PM
> > > To: [e-mail]
> > > Subject: (mobility) GO rip off
> > >
> > >
> > > I found a very funny CD today.
> > > It's called "Laura Palmer's Theme" - FKW
> > >
> > > The track listing is:
> > > 1.Laura Palmer's Theme (master edit)
> > > 2.Laura Palmer's Theme (tin man kick in mix)
> > > 3.Laura Palmer's Theme (tk go 94 mix)
> > >
> > > It's a complete ripoff of Moby's "GO"
> > > The strings are different, as well as the GO
> sample,
> > > but it's all organized the same way.
> > >
> > > Got it for a buck/99.
> > >
> > > RT
> > >
>
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Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 19:43:16 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby on Tv.

yeah!  hes  on  like  everything  now!  its  great  i'm  recording  it
~damian

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Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 16:49:11 -0800
From: "Kevin Snaden" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby on Tv.

What channel is the Daily Show on ? What broadcaster Eg. PBS, YTV And is the
time Pacific or ET ?


Thanks :)
Kev

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> yeah!  hes  on  like  everything  now!  its  great  i'm  recording  it
> ~damian
>

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Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 19:55:10 -0500
From: "Eric M. Goldberg" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (mobility) Moby on Tv.

Comedy Central, 11pm EST.


Eric
[e-mail]
www.tonematrix.com

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [e-mail]
> [mailto:[e-mail]]On Behalf Of Kevin Snaden
> Sent: Monday, February 14, 2000 7:49 PM
> To: [e-mail]; [e-mail]
> Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby on Tv.
>
>
> What channel is the Daily Show on ? What broadcaster Eg. PBS, YTV
> And is the
> time Pacific or ET ?
>
>
> Thanks :)
> Kev
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <[e-mail]>
> To: <[e-mail]>
> Sent: Monday, February 14, 2000 4:43 PM
> Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby on Tv.
>
>
> > yeah!  hes  on  like  everything  now!  its  great  i'm  recording  it
> > ~damian
> >
>
>

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Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 18:50:02 PST
From: "Renny Colclough" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) GO rip off (not a Go rip off)

I couldnt agree with you more kimby!  Badalamenti did compose all the music
for the Twin Peaks soundtrack, as well as most of the other Lynch directed
films.  He has an incredible ear for music.


>From: kimby <[e-mail]>
>Reply-To: [e-mail]
>To: [e-mail]
>Subject: Re: (mobility) GO rip off (not a Go rip off)
>Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 13:47:16 -0700
>
>Robert Taylor wrote:
>
> > >I found a very funny CD today.
> > >It's called "Laura Palmer's Theme" - FKW
> >
> > >The track listing is:
> > >1.Laura Palmer's Theme (master edit)
> > >2.Laura Palmer's Theme (tin man kick in mix)
> > >3.Laura Palmer's Theme (tk go 94 mix)
> >
> > >It's a complete ripoff of Moby's "GO"
> > >The strings are different, as well as the GO sample,
> > >but it's all organized the same way.
>
>Um, no.  Laura Palmer's Theme is from Twin Peaks (circa early 90's) and
>it was written by Angelo Badalamenti (sp?).  Moby coped it off.  I
>didn't know that there were remixes of the original Laura's theme!
>Weird.  Check out the label and see how wrote the oringinal.  It
>*should* say A.B. and maybe something about Twin Peaks.
>
>I hope that clears things up for you.  Twin Peaks was a great show and
>Laura's theme is totally haunting.
>
>--kimby
><< kimbalina.vcf >>

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Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 22:21:00 -0600
From: "Brad Caviness" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Daily Show

I'm not just being a sucking up fan boy when I say this, but the Moby
interview on the Daily Show had to be the funniest celeb spot I've seen on
there in recent memory.... I actually laughed out loud when he put on the
"Beat It" jacket -- strange connection seeing as he remixed the tune -- and
talked about getting the onion suit for the grammies.

BSC

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Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 23:35:16 +1000
From: Robert A Jones <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Daily Show

for those of u who didnt see it u missed a lot -- Moy was histerical
w/his quirky sense of humor and 4 those of u whove met him -- is it just
me or is he the only star who acts the same way in public as he does in
private?
________________________________
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Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 23:35:16 +1000
From: Robert A Jones <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Daily Show

for those of u who didnt see it u missed a lot -- Moy was histerical
w/his quirky sense of humor and 4 those of u whove met him -- is it just
me or is he the only star who acts the same way in public as he does in
private?
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Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2000 00:30:59 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: (mobility) comedy central / VEGAN

hey guys,
moby was hilarious on CC w/ his onion suit idea and all but i just wanted to
say something. we all first got into moby for different reasons - i became
interested in him b/c of his stance on animal rights and then when i heard
his music, i was so blown away by his ingenious talent that i became an
instant fan.  im not criticizing moby but im just extremely sad that he has
begun to compromise his vegan beliefs, like purchasing the leather jacket
seen on tonight's show and also posing in leather and cashmere for
GQ(sigh...).  i know to some this may all seem paltry and even ridiculous but
it's an important issue for me. but regardless, i do still love moby as a
musician and respect him as a person - how can u not?
~animal lib, veganism

ps- hopefully this post does not start another "vegan war" - i just needed to
state how i felt at the moment. thanx

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