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mobility-digest        Tuesday, January 4 2000        Volume 03 : Number 068



Re: (mobility) greetings!/moby
Re: (mobility) Damn
(mobility) courtney coincedince
(mobility) courtney coincedince
Re: (mobility) courtney coincedince
(mobility) sightings...
Re: (mobility) OT tricky
Re: (mobility) courtney coincedince
Re: (mobility) courtney coincedince
Re: (mobility) courtney coincedince
Re: (mobility) courtney coincedince
Re: (mobility) tour dates
(mobility) New Years
Re: (mobility) New Years
Re: (mobility) essays
Re: (mobility) New Years
Re: (mobility) New Years
Re: (mobility) New Years
(mobility) Moby is now effectively bisexualist
Re: (mobility) courtney coincedince
(mobility) MADONNA & G. PALTROW AT A MOBY SHOW!!!
Re: (mobility) Lawrence
(mobility) Re: Welcome to mobility
Re: (mobility) New Years
Re: (mobility) Best Alternative Album: Moby
Re: (mobility) courtney coincedince
Re: (mobility) Best Alternative Album: Moby

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Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2000 19:27:46 -0800 (PST)
From: megan check <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) greetings!/moby

yes, but a ton is 2000 lbs so i guess it works either
way. hope you all i had happy new year. i ran into a
tree and messed up my knee. but i'm still living.

megs.
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Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2000 19:31:01 -0800 (PST)
From: megan check <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Damn

now all the big shots that a pissed that something
didn't happen new years day are saying that it all
going to happen monday when everyone boots up. now i
like blink 182 as an entertaining, but it shouldn't
have made top ten, and any of the others. this nin
album wasn't their best. i'd say moby, live, olp, and
godsmack, really were my favorite, and eminem.

- --- kimbalina <[e-mail]> wrote:
> [e-mail] wrote:
>
> > Well, we failed in our mission to get Play on
> AOL's top 10 finalist for album
> > of the year...   Finalist are:
> >
> > Rage Against the Machine - Battle of Los Angeles
> > Limp Bizkit ~ Significant Other
> > Korn - Issues
> > Backstreet Boys - Millennium
> > Mary J. Blige - Mary
> > Nine Inch Nails - The Fragile
> > Britney Spears - Baby One More Time
> > Blink 182 - Enema of the State
> > Metallica - S&M
> > Christina Aguilera - s/t
> >
>
> All I can say is *gag*.  NIN is cool but all those
> otha mutaf****** can something
> something.  Hehe, I was just being ghetto for a
> sec....I'm ok!  BTW: The world
> hasn't blown up yet!
>
> --kimby
>
>
>
>

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Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2000 19:37:33 -0800 (PST)
From: megan check <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) courtney coincedince

it's hard to keep up with you people. right now i am
on 2 mailing list at the time. so the people who
complain about getting too much mail for 1 list...but
i'm keeping my mouth shut. the thing is the other list
is edward norton. and it was strange because when we
were dicussing courtney love on the moby list, the
edward norton list was discussing her too(in case you
didn't know he used to date her). i'm glad we moved
on, because i have had enough of courtney love for the
time being, i'm not much of a fan.

peace.
megs.


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Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2000 19:37:33 -0800 (PST)
From: megan check <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) courtney coincedince

it's hard to keep up with you people. right now i am
on 2 mailing list at the time. so the people who
complain about getting too much mail for 1 list...but
i'm keeping my mouth shut. the thing is the other list
is edward norton. and it was strange because when we
were dicussing courtney love on the moby list, the
edward norton list was discussing her too(in case you
didn't know he used to date her). i'm glad we moved
on, because i have had enough of courtney love for the
time being, i'm not much of a fan.

peace.
megs.


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Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2000 00:31:17 -0500
From: "Raven" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) courtney coincedince

> it's hard to keep up with you people. right now i am
> on 2 mailing list at the time. so the people who
> complain about getting too much mail for 1 list...

Only two?  I'm on.....seven.  At least three are very high traffic, too.
And yes, I have a busy life besides that ;-)

Incidentally, someone else mentioned that Blink 182 was in some kind of
best-of list (for the year?)  I've all but given up on those stupid lists.
For one thing, why should we necessarily *care* what someone else thinks are
the best releases for the year?  And notice that they are entirely based on
personal opinions.....there's almost never mention of whether the releases
are important, influential, or innovative.  Even if they *do*, it all
usually boils down to just what was popular on the big labels and MTV and
radio rotation in the past year.  Like *that's* a good indication of what's
worthwhile.... :P

If I were to form my own top list, it would definitely include 'Play', along
with Nine Inch Nails' 'The Fragile', and a few other less well-known (but,
IMO, equally important and equally as wonderful) releases such as
Stavesacre's 'Speakeasy'.  I would possibly include Metallica's 'S&M',
simply because of the innovation of including an orchestra as part of a
'rock' band in a live performance.  On the other hand, Metallica per se
doesn't write very influential or innovative songs at all....so I could see
why someone wouldn't include them on a list.

I *could* include other releases I liked, such as Coal Chamber's 'Chamber
Music', or Chemical Brothers' 'Surrender', but I wouldn't--again, they're
just not innovative or influential enough.  I love them, but I'd restrict my
list to releases that change the music scene.....or that are daring enough
to be innovative.  The new NIN was a pretty risky move--it could have
totally flopped, because it's not an album that's immediately catchy.  Even
the singles are not completely what you'd expect a hit single to be.

I wish the lists weren't so much about personal tastes and what 'sounds
cool' (i.e. what sells in the industry)...I wish they'd take a more
objective, music-oriented stance.  Ah well...

Chris

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Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2000 01:17:37 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: (mobility) sightings...

Hello all!

I hope all of you had a wonderful x-mas and a kick ass new year's!  I just
got back from my vacation and guess who I see on the plane back home to NY.
I saw Greta and (forgive me but I forgot his name) the guy that plays the
bongos. They were together and I was hoping that Moby would be with them but
he wasn't.  I wasn't able to go up to them and say anything because I was in
a hurry to get out of the airport myself.  And at the baggage claim, I also
saw 2 crew members I guess you can say i figure since they were at last
concert I attended.  Well just wanted to share with you all! Great way to
start the new year!

Marisa

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Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2000 05:25:32 -0800 (PST)
From: DJ Pagan <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) OT tricky

- --- Hotel Detective Phizzo Jobson wrote:
> also like angels with dirty faces too. i
> honestly dont care what tricky does, it
> doesnt seem like he's going back to
> Maxinquaye so everyone should just shut up
> and stop wishing he would, you all know it
> aint gonna happen.

My favorite by him to date is Nearly God.  The
"guest stars" are amazing.  My only regret is
that he does more stuff with Martina, but then
again, I can listen to anything he puts out.  The
voice kind of entrances me. :)

=====
DJ Pagan
"And this one time...
 At band camp..."
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Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2000 11:22:02 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) courtney coincedince

In a message dated 01/02/2000 9:32:55 PM Pacific Standard Time,
[e-mail] writes:

<< I would possibly include Metallica's 'S&M',
 simply because of the innovation of including an orchestra as part of a
 'rock' band in a live performance.  >>

Um, how is a rock band & an orchestra in live performance innovative?  I do
believe Aerosmith did that years ago with Dream On for MTV thing... It's
really beautiful... But I'm a closest Aerosmith fan (old Aerosmith I guess..
I don't like some of the newer stuff).

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Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2000 16:19:24 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) courtney coincedince

closest?....not  anymore  ;)

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Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2000 16:24:07 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) courtney coincedince

In a message dated 01/03/2000 1:20:25 PM Pacific Standard Time,
[e-mail] writes:

<< closest >>

I know I mean closet...  I need a new brain

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Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2000 16:26:23 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) courtney coincedince

its  cool,  ;)

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Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2000 13:27:51 -0800 (PST)
From: morag doodikins <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) tour dates

does anybody know any tour dates for the east coast
this year???
thanks,  *kitt*
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Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2000 18:47:41 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: (mobility) New Years

Did anyone catch Moby in Miami for New Years?  Love to know how he rung in
the year 2000 (not the millenium, that's next year).

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Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2000 19:24:44 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) New Years

if next year is the millenium (which it is), then why is everyone making 2000
such a big deal? probably cuz it is supposedly a big deal in the bible or
something. i feel sorry for those who thought this was the end of the world!
i mean come on, people...
`ariel

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Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2000 10:15:59 +1000
From: Jane Browning <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) essays

At 18:44 27/12/99 -0800, you wrote:
>yes. i am for his organized religion essays, what i
>meant by the disagreeing was the fact that he thinks
>dairy products are bad, because cows have to be
>milked, it doesn't hurt them, but it will hurt them if
>they aren't.


I guess the essays in Play are good in the fact that they aren't designed
to fully educate or make empassioned pleas on chosen issues.  Even though
they seem quite cold, I guess they are for people who may not have thought
about these issues before and may highlight some points that they may wish
to investigate further for themselves.  For example, if you don't
understand the dairy industry myth then that may be a starting point to
research the practices and implications for yourself if that's where your
sympathies lie.

Jane

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Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2000 19:30:11 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) New Years

In a message dated 01/03/2000 4:27:08 PM Pacific Standard Time,
[e-mail] writes:

<< if next year is the millenium (which it is), then why is everyone making
2000
 such a big deal?  >>

Because people are ignorant..  Honestly, the thought that every single digit
changes in one second is cool but it doesn't mean the end is coming and every
electronical piece of equipment is going to explode..

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Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2000 20:05:26 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) New Years

well,  i was  supposed  to but  my  rides  dad  found  the  directions  to
the  club  and  he's  like  what  is  this  so  her  and  i  had  to  sit
around  boring  ass  ft.myers,  oh  well.
~=damian=~

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Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2000 20:08:27 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) New Years

no  the  biblical  millenium  was  like  four  years  ago  no  one  really
cared  or  even  knew  about  it  except  all  those  really  smart  guys
who  figure  that  stuff  out.  people,   mostly  buisnesses  are  making  a
big  deal  because  well,  well  it  all  the  marketing  people,  u  know?
~=damian=~

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Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2000 20:54:57 -0500
From: Joe Clark <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Moby is now effectively bisexualist

>>does anyone know the answer to this? i know hes talked about
>>  girlfriends, etc., but i keep thinking about those lyrics on 'animal
>>  rights' (i.e. 'when i'm on my knees in front of him...' etc.).

The latter is clearly a reference to praying before God.

>for what it's worth, i recall reading a chat transcript in which someone
>asked him if he ever had a homosexual experience, to which he replied that he
>never had.

That's old news. The new news, as discussed on this very list a few
months back and confirmed in more than one magazine interview I've
read, is that Moby found himself in bed with at least one grrrl and
one boy, one thing led to another, and now he has had ess-ee-eks with
a few other lads and is more and more bisexualist in nature. No one
was more surprised than he, but he seems to be into it.

- --
           Joe Clark
           [e-mail]
           <http://www.joeclark.uni.cc> (updated 2000.01.03)

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Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2000 22:15:26 -0500 (EST)
From: "Jared M. Willig" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) courtney coincedince

The ironic part about both these comments is that the same guy conducted
the orchestras for both Aerosmith and Metallica.  His name is Michael
Kamen and he does a lot of music scoring and orchestrations for both
movies and rock groups.  That version of "Dream On" can be found on the
soundtrack for the movie "Last Action Hero."

On Mon, 3 Jan 2000 [e-mail] wrote:

> << I would possibly include Metallica's 'S&M',
>  simply because of the innovation of including an orchestra as part of a
>  'rock' band in a live performance.  >>
>
> Um, how is a rock band & an orchestra in live performance innovative?  I do
> believe Aerosmith did that years ago with Dream On for MTV thing... It's
> really beautiful... But I'm a closest Aerosmith fan (old Aerosmith I guess..
> I don't like some of the newer stuff).
>
>

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Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2000 22:15:48 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: (mobility) MADONNA & G. PALTROW AT A MOBY SHOW!!!

yup, it's true - couldnt believe it myself!!!  i was at the gym and was
reading Mademoiselle.  in this month's issue at the very last page there's a
full page of madonna and paltrow hugging eachother.  the captioning says "Hug
for the camera: madonna and paltrow at a moby concert in nyc". my jaw dropped
- - i knew madonna said she enjoyed "play" and would like to work with moby but
i wouldve never thought she and paltrow would ever attend a moby show!  oh
well, more power to my favorite musician!

~animal lib, veganism.

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Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2000 22:53:26 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) Lawrence

Well, as you are, I too sit back and read the postings, yet never contribute.
 Much for the reason that I have little to contribute on the issue of Moby.
I have never seen him, yet I am intrigued by the determination he holds and
the thoughts that consist of his beliefs.  I believe that with his music, he
expresses pure emotions, straight from the heart, which usually get lost in
the hectic chaos of everyday living.  Rarely do you find such a deep artist
that goes below the surface and can create a release from the standardized
way the world was meant to live by.  With so many personal restraints and
restrictions, it is nice to see a man who can honestly say he has broken this
boundary and really lived, while the rest of the working class continues to
hurry around to work for nothing.  Knowledge like this should not be
neglected, and thats why I'm writing this...I would like to learn as much as
I can about this man and his beliefs, so if anyone has contributions, I would
be more than willing to accept them... until next time.
- -Jackie

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Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2000 01:16:11 AST
From: "aren kittilsen" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Re: Welcome to mobility

- -=Hi my name is AreN
- -=I'm 19
- -=so far i only have Animal Rights with the bonus Little Idiot cd and
Everything is Wrong and i'm    buying Play next week.
- -=The first time that Moby really caught my attention was in an interview he
was doing on tv and everything he was saying seemed really interesting and
bright then they played the music video for "thats when i reached for my
revolver" xcept the lyrics were a bit different from that on the cd, it just
rocked so i searched for the cd.
- -=Other artests i like are many and very different from each other, my main
interests being in bands like Nine Inch Nails, deftones, coal chamber, acid
bath, bush pretty much everything xcept boybands and stuff like that.
- -=My website is probly a better way of getting to know more about me, its at
www.angelfire.com/myband/halo69




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Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2000 05:25:42 -0800 (PST)
From: DJ Pagan <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) New Years

- --- [e-mail] wrote:
> if next year is the millenium (which it is),
> then why is everyone making 2000 such a big
> deal? probably cuz it is supposedly a big
> deal in the bible or something. i feel sorry
> for those who thought this was the end of the
> world!
> i mean come on, people...

Because there's something about all those zeroes.
 Because not many people know that the monk who
made the Christain calendar forgot a zero year
(this is because the Western World hadn't yet
developed a good sense of the concept of zero
yet).  Because technicalities like the one you
are talking about take the fun out of the
evening.

For those who thought the world was going to end
because of Tribulation and what not... if you are
a true Christain.... IT DOESN'T MATTER!  You're
on your way out anyway! :)  For people like me...
we start to panic.

=====
DJ Pagan
"And this one time...
 At band camp..."
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Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2000 11:50:21 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) Best Alternative Album: Moby

I AM PROUD TO SAY THAT MOBY HAS BEEN NOMINATED FOR BEST ALTERNATIVE ALBUM TO
GO AGAINST TORI AMOS, NIN, AND BECK FOR A GRAMMY..INSANE RIGHT????

ELIE

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Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2000 12:09:44 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) courtney coincedince

In a message dated 01/03/2000 7:17:42 PM Pacific Standard Time,
[e-mail] writes:

<< That version of "Dream On" can be found on the
 soundtrack for the movie "Last Action Hero."
  >>

not true.. it's also on the box of fire bonus disk.

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Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2000 12:22:15 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) Best Alternative Album: Moby

In a message dated 01/04/2000 8:51:18 AM Pacific Standard Time,
[e-mail] writes:

<< GO AGAINST TORI AMOS, NIN, AND BECK FOR A GRAMMY..INSANE RIGHT????   >>

That's just cruel... No matter who wins, I'll be sad some one else didn't..
but either tori or Moby should win because Beck's Midnite Vultures wasn't
really supposed to be taken seriously... But NIN will probably win.

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