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mobility-digest       Tuesday, December 28 1999       Volume 03 : Number 063



Re: (mobility) OT: Making Electronic Music
(mobility) Damn
Re: (mobility) Year end thoughs
Re: (mobility) Year end thoughs
Re: (mobility) Damn
(mobility) Why Does Moby Make Me Feel So Good?
Re: (mobility) Damn
Re: (mobility) Why Does Moby Make Me Feel So Good?
Re: (mobility) Damn
(mobility) Circuit DVD and KROQ cd
Re: (mobility) Why Does Moby Make Me Feel So Good?
Re: (mobility) Damn
(mobility) Moby in Tokyo
Re: (mobility) Year end thoughs
(mobility) a little about me
Re: (mobility) Why Does Moby Make Me Feel So Good?

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Date: Mon, 27 Dec 1999 16:44:08 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) OT: Making Electronic Music

In a message dated 12/27/1999 9:19:03 AM Pacific Standard Time,
[e-mail] writes:

> I was wondering what equipment I would need to make some decent music.  I
>  have a fast computer if that would help any.
hey man...for starters, there is this program on the computer called
Buzz2..it is like a mini studio in your computer where you have instruments
and you create sounds..it's a bit primitive but it is good and fun for
starters...don't go all out with this at first man..www.buzz2.com

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Date: Mon, 27 Dec 1999 17:36:26 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: (mobility) Damn

Well, we failed in our mission to get Play on AOL's top 10 finalist for album
of the year...   Finalist are:

Rage Against the Machine - Battle of Los Angeles
Limp Bizkit ~ Significant Other
Korn - Issues
Backstreet Boys - Millennium
Mary J. Blige - Mary
Nine Inch Nails - The Fragile
Britney Spears - Baby One More Time
Blink 182 - Enema of the State
Metallica - S&M
Christina Aguilera - s/t

Well after you cast your votes, you find out the revolting fact that the BSB
are way ahead.. I don't know if this list was supposed to induce vomitting or
what, but it eliminates my faith in the people voicing their opinions.   Of
these choice I personally went for Blink 182 because their fun and don't take
themselves seriously (plus the Small Things video made me a fan for life it
is so funny)..  Just when you think people are achieving taste this happens.
At least Nsync wasn't on there.

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Date: Mon, 27 Dec 1999 17:48:47 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) Year end thoughs

hey steve do you know where i can find any of moby's "why does my heart...."
remixes?

thanks,

ariel

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Date: Mon, 27 Dec 1999 15:58:19 -0800 (PST)
From: megan check <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Year end thoughs

i'd have to say i just started listening to moby this
year. my first cd, animal rights, led me to believe
all his cds would be of that manner, but after
purchasing play i had a different opinion, but hey!
i'm still here.  i now have a few other cds of him,
and my collection continues to grow. not to leave out
his essays, which i think are interesting, even though
i don't agree with all of his opinions, i respect
them.

i'm sure i'd get comments(not necessarily good ones)
on my opinion of favorite cds. i listen to a variety
of different music, so i'm hesitating to say this but
moby, live, eminem, michael w. smith, bing crosby, foo
fighters, blink 182, and godsmack really effected me
alot this year. that's my opinion.

peace.
megs.
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Date: Mon, 27 Dec 1999 16:17:45 -0800 (PST)
From: megan check <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Damn

WELL IF YOU ASK ME THOSE WERE CRAPPY PICKS.
- --- [e-mail] wrote:
> Well, we failed in our mission to get Play on AOL's
> top 10 finalist for album
> of the year...   Finalist are:
>
> Rage Against the Machine - Battle of Los Angeles
> Limp Bizkit ~ Significant Other
> Korn - Issues
> Backstreet Boys - Millennium
> Mary J. Blige - Mary
> Nine Inch Nails - The Fragile
> Britney Spears - Baby One More Time
> Blink 182 - Enema of the State
> Metallica - S&M
> Christina Aguilera - s/t
>
> Well after you cast your votes, you find out the
> revolting fact that the BSB
> are way ahead.. I don't know if this list was
> supposed to induce vomitting or
> what, but it eliminates my faith in the people
> voicing their opinions.   Of
> these choice I personally went for Blink 182 because
> their fun and don't take
> themselves seriously (plus the Small Things video
> made me a fan for life it
> is so funny)..  Just when you think people are
> achieving taste this happens.
> At least Nsync wasn't on there.
>
>

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Date: Tue, 28 Dec 1999 01:55:28 +0000
From: Mark Reed <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Why Does Moby Make Me Feel So Good?

>my first cd, animal rights, led me to believe
>all his cds would be of that manner, but after
>purchasing play i had a different opinion, but hey!

Actually if you look at Moby's essays there is very little to disagree
with by and large : any pro-religion statements he makes tend to also be
anti-organised-religion, any pro-earth statements are more accurately
against corporate policies on the raping of the earths resources (i.e.
it's the problem of the next generation) and any personal statements he
makes are by and large common sense.

Animal Rights was my year zero for Moby (I had EIW 2CD but never really
'got it'), when I heard it it sounded like no other rock music in the
world. It is still an astonishingly relentless album. (I have the UK
edition). It sounds both pheonomenally human and mechanised at the same
time, played by the tightest band in the world. Bearing in mind Moby
himself plays almost every instrument bar the odd cello solo, it sounds
more coherent than any band effort I've heard in a long time. It's also
a fantastic album for sulking to a broken relationship over, and I rate
it as one of my top three albums of all time.

What I realised as I branched out more into the Moby canon (from Voodoo
Child to the UHF single to stuff like Feeling So Real, and later, Play)
is that Moby - no matter what he does - is one of the few true artists
and musicians who is genuinely good at being a musician and not just
within one narrow genre. In every genre he touches and uses, a Moby
sounds like the work of an adept and visionary within his field. Without
looking at his other works, Move is a classic in it's field, as is You,
or Why Does My Heart Feel So Bad? In effect, he is Beck without the
persona, a Beck with Soul. (This is opinion). Whereas Beck fiddles in
all genres, and just about pulls-it-off with some kitsch humour, Moby
seems to cut straight through to what the genre is truly about. Moby is
soul msuic, in the rarest form, that it does come from the soul.


> variety
>of different music, so i'm hesitating to say this but
>moby, live, eminem, michael w. smith, bing crosby, foo
>fighters, blink 182, and godsmack really effected me
>alot this year. that's my opinion.
so 4 out and out jockcockrock acts, one hip-hop misogynist and bing
crosby = diverse? Try this :

Metallica, Nyman, Phillip Glass, Moby, Tori Amos, PWEI, Kraftwerk, Blur,
Pet Shop Boys, Prince, The Orb, Nitzer Ebb, New Order, The The, Janes
Addiction/P 4 Pyros, Orbital, Steve Reich....


ttfn

Marky :)
- --
Mark Reed

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Date: Mon, 27 Dec 1999 19:00:51 -0500
From: "Mike A7" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Damn

[e-mail] wrote:

> Well, we failed in our mission to get Play on AOL's top 10 finalist for
album
> of the year...   Finalist are:
>
> Rage Against the Machine - Battle of Los Angeles
> Limp Bizkit ~ Significant Other
> Korn - Issues
> Backstreet Boys - Millennium
> Mary J. Blige - Mary
> Nine Inch Nails - The Fragile
> Britney Spears - Baby One More Time
> Blink 182 - Enema of the State
> Metallica - S&M
> Christina Aguilera - s/t

Frankly, considering the pure shit that is here, I would be REVOLTED to see
"Play" and Moby's name linked in any way shape or form with this list so
I'm glad it's not here. To lump Moby in with the likes of Backstreet Boys,
Britney, Bizkit and their ilk
would be a crime. The only people I have any respect for on that list are
Metallica and NIN and I personally don't own anything by them, just not my
cup of tea, but I respect their talent. The others are all dime a dozen
cookie cutter record company creations or boring same ole same oles.

Leave this crap to the uneducated "masses" who voted that stuff in. We'll
see how many of those "acts" other than Metallica and NIN are even around
making music in say, 5 years. I'm sure our beloved Little Idiot will be.

MikeA

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Date: Mon, 27 Dec 1999 18:44:33 -0800 (PST)
From: megan check <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Why Does Moby Make Me Feel So Good?

yes. i am for his organized religion essays, what i
meant by the disagreeing was the fact that he thinks
dairy products are bad, because cows have to be
milked, it doesn't hurt them, but it will hurt them if
they aren't.

i was only naming a few of my diverse things. some of
the bands you listed i don't know. i just knew/heard
some people making negative comments about some of the
bands/people i list as good artists before on the
list. i forgot our lady peace. all though moby is my
favorite solo artist. live is my favorite band, and
our lady peace comes in second. all others are just
something to listen too, they don't really affect me
much.
megs.

- --- Mark Reed <[e-mail]> wrote:
> >my first cd, animal rights, led me to believe
> >all his cds would be of that manner, but after
> >purchasing play i had a different opinion, but hey!
>
> Actually if you look at Moby's essays there is very
> little to disagree
> with by and large : any pro-religion statements he
> makes tend to also be
> anti-organised-religion, any pro-earth statements
> are more accurately
> against corporate policies on the raping of the
> earths resources (i.e.
> it's the problem of the next generation) and any
> personal statements he
> makes are by and large common sense.
>
> Animal Rights was my year zero for Moby (I had EIW
> 2CD but never really
> 'got it'), when I heard it it sounded like no other
> rock music in the
> world. It is still an astonishingly relentless
> album. (I have the UK
> edition). It sounds both pheonomenally human and
> mechanised at the same
> time, played by the tightest band in the world.
> Bearing in mind Moby
> himself plays almost every instrument bar the odd
> cello solo, it sounds
> more coherent than any band effort I've heard in a
> long time. It's also
> a fantastic album for sulking to a broken
> relationship over, and I rate
> it as one of my top three albums of all time.
>
> What I realised as I branched out more into the Moby
> canon (from Voodoo
> Child to the UHF single to stuff like Feeling So
> Real, and later, Play)
> is that Moby - no matter what he does - is one of
> the few true artists
> and musicians who is genuinely good at being a
> musician and not just
> within one narrow genre. In every genre he touches
> and uses, a Moby
> sounds like the work of an adept and visionary
> within his field. Without
> looking at his other works, Move is a classic in
> it's field, as is You,
> or Why Does My Heart Feel So Bad? In effect, he is
> Beck without the
> persona, a Beck with Soul. (This is opinion).
> Whereas Beck fiddles in
> all genres, and just about pulls-it-off with some
> kitsch humour, Moby
> seems to cut straight through to what the genre is
> truly about. Moby is
> soul msuic, in the rarest form, that it does come
> from the soul.
>
>
> > variety
> >of different music, so i'm hesitating to say this
> but
> >moby, live, eminem, michael w. smith, bing crosby,
> foo
> >fighters, blink 182, and godsmack really effected
> me
> >alot this year. that's my opinion.
> so 4 out and out jockcockrock acts, one hip-hop
> misogynist and bing
> crosby = diverse? Try this :
>
> Metallica, Nyman, Phillip Glass, Moby, Tori Amos,
> PWEI, Kraftwerk, Blur,
> Pet Shop Boys, Prince, The Orb, Nitzer Ebb, New
> Order, The The, Janes
> Addiction/P 4 Pyros, Orbital, Steve Reich....
>
>
> ttfn
>
> Marky :)
> --
> Mark Reed
>
>

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Date: Mon, 27 Dec 1999 21:53:43 EST
From: "Serena Horrigan" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Damn

honestly, moby is far too talented to be in the same category as those acts
anyway....except for metallica and NIN, who are (obviously) talented.....
though i think its probably time for metallica to retire ya know??
xoxox
djmiso



>From: megan check <[e-mail]>
>Reply-To: [e-mail]
>To: [e-mail]
>Subject: Re: (mobility) Damn
>Date: Mon, 27 Dec 1999 16:17:45 -0800 (PST)
>
>
>WELL IF YOU ASK ME THOSE WERE CRAPPY PICKS.
>--- [e-mail] wrote:
> > Well, we failed in our mission to get Play on AOL's
> > top 10 finalist for album
> > of the year...   Finalist are:
> >
> > Rage Against the Machine - Battle of Los Angeles
> > Limp Bizkit ~ Significant Other
> > Korn - Issues
> > Backstreet Boys - Millennium
> > Mary J. Blige - Mary
> > Nine Inch Nails - The Fragile
> > Britney Spears - Baby One More Time
> > Blink 182 - Enema of the State
> > Metallica - S&M
> > Christina Aguilera - s/t
> >
> > Well after you cast your votes, you find out the
> > revolting fact that the BSB
> > are way ahead.. I don't know if this list was
> > supposed to induce vomitting or
> > what, but it eliminates my faith in the people
> > voicing their opinions.   Of
> > these choice I personally went for Blink 182 because
> > their fun and don't take
> > themselves seriously (plus the Small Things video
> > made me a fan for life it
> > is so funny)..  Just when you think people are
> > achieving taste this happens.
> > At least Nsync wasn't on there.
> >
> >
>
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Date: Mon, 27 Dec 1999 21:54:28 -0500
From: Keith Clancy <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Circuit DVD and KROQ cd

Hi, got the Circuit DVD that the editor i believe wrote in about and  it
honestly it has a great interview with Moby on it, in good punk attitude
mocks hollywood money and just for the scene where the interviewer is
putting Moby to sleep by babbling on is great.  Also has the Run On
video (one of my favorites of his) and Underworlds Push Upstairs plus
some other stuff
Also the KROQ cd Kevin and Beans Last Christmas has a track with Moby on
it, honestly it is alright, if you want i am usually on NAP (eastern
late pm usually) so if you want you can download it from me (have alot
of other besides and such as mp3s on my drive). Keith

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Date: Mon, 27 Dec 1999 22:53:44 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) Why Does Moby Make Me Feel So Good?

yeah i agree with what you have to say about moby. now he's a guy who knows
what hes doing and why hes doing it!

~ ariel

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Date: Mon, 27 Dec 1999 22:57:28 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) Damn

well i have an appreciation for all music, and i love all music.
but yeah you deff. cant compare moby to any of that new "hip hop" shit or
whatever you wanna call it. moby is in it for more than just the fame, ya
know? his work comes from his heart. he can impress us with... his music and
his personality. thats all you need. :)

~ariel

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Date: Tue, 28 Dec 1999 00:02:55 -0800 (PST)
From: Christopher Laine <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Moby in Tokyo

Moby's coming to Tokyo and I couldn't be happier!  :D
Moby and band are going to be playing at an event
called Tokyo Police State
1, a show protesting the recent crackdown on all-night
dancing by Tokyo
Police -- they've been shutting down clubs left and
right!  The show also
includes the Chemical Brothers and a long list of
Tokyo DJs (all for 4000
yen.  yes, that is about $40, but I don't think it's
bad for Moby and the
Chems).  I'm giddy as a school girl and can't wait
until Jan. 9.  I'll post
a review after the show.
And I thought I was going to miss Moby's Play tour!

Chris L.


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656 Kumiage Oaza
Taiyo-mura, Kashima-gun,
Ibaraki-ken  311-2103
JAPAN
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Date: Tue, 28 Dec 1999 06:47:57 PST
From: "Steve Giles" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Year end thoughs

>From: [e-mail]
>hey steve do you know where i can find any of moby's "why does my
> >heart...."
>remixes?
>
>thanks,
>
>ariel

These are my favorite online stores:

*  http://www.vvinyl.com
http://www.vinaledge.com
*  http://www.alternativemusic.com
http://www.vinylvendors.com

The starred two will each have both CDs for sure! Good luck!
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Date: Tue, 28 Dec 1999 11:31:58 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: (mobility) a little about me

Hey there...my name is Shahla...Pretty much I am 17 years old livin in miami
hoping to live in cali next year for school.  My Moby collection includes
Animal Rights, Everything is Wrong, Ambient, and I like to Score...not much i
know since he creates soooooooo much art but its a start.  The first time i
heard of Moby was back in 7th grade when my friend Luis was talking about him
in this awe-like way.  I am always up for listening to new music...although
he wasnt new but it was new for me...but i just found myself in total
expression -captured in a second of time- when i listen to his music.
Anyway, enough about that.  I am a fan of Moby but not like the biggest...i
just appreciate his music.  I would want to have more of his cds...but
gosh...it all costs money.  Other artists that i love include Millencolin,
Less than Jake, Blink182 (the older stuff preferably), 311, Josh Wink,
Chemical Brothers (which i have seen a couple of times including at the Zen
Fest in Miami), Aphex Twin, The Sex Pistols, Fiona Apple, Feeder, The
Verve...gosh..i am just naming and naming..Ultimately, i love punk and rave
music...electronica is just some kind of music that indulges in the soul...I
have my own zine down here in miami..entitled Blurb...i am still a student
- -quite the nerd- i promote lots of local punk acts down here and basically i
am out of time since i have lots of work to do..nice to meet you all..maybe
we could get some coffee..."You, me, and five bucks"-from Reality Bites (my
fave movie)..toodaloo...shahla

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Date: Tue, 28 Dec 1999 11:33:42 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) Why Does Moby Make Me Feel So Good?

In a message dated 12/27/1999 6:22:17 PM Pacific Standard Time,
[e-mail] writes:

<<  In effect, he is Beck without the
 persona, a Beck with Soul. (This is opinion). Whereas Beck fiddles in
 all genres, and just about pulls-it-off with some kitsch humour, Moby
 seems to cut straight through to what the genre is truly about. >>

Moby has a persona, everyone has a  persona.  His just isn't as obtuse as
Beck's.  But anyone who goes to the VMA's in a gold Elvis-esque suit has his
own little persona.  As far as Beck goes, I love him.  He has a soul.  He
makes fun of the world today without being malicious. That takes a soul, it's
just different from Moby.  Idealistically, Moby is probably my all time
favorite because of his music that is always beautiful, and because he has
strong moral beliefs.  there should be more like him.

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