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mobility-digest       Monday, November 15 1999       Volume 03 : Number 030



(mobility) seattle!  yes!
Re: (mobility) next AMP playlist (moby!)/JSBX remix info!
(mobility) amp playlist
(mobility) rage powered music
(mobility) Found a interesting track..
(mobility) 202?maybe too harsh
(mobility) of fruity loops and smart media
Re: (mobility) Found a interesting track..
Re: (mobility) reverb!
(mobility) moby's e-mails
(mobility) tour?
Re: (mobility) reverb!
Re: (mobility) tour?
Re: (mobility) tour?
Re: (mobility) tour?
Re: (mobility) tour?
Re: (mobility) 'letter from moby to mobililty'
Re: (mobility) 'letter from moby to mobililty'
Re: (mobility) misogyny? THE LONGISH POST
Re: (mobility) Found a interesting track..
Re: (mobility) misogyny? THE LONGISH POST

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Date: Sat, 13 Nov 1999 15:03:25 -0800 (PST)
From: Bjorkdoll <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) seattle!  yes!

Finally!  I am going to get my chance to see Moby perform live!  Whoohoo!
I was getting a bit sad that I was not going to get a chance to hear
Porcelain live...and see that stunning Thousand finale.  He is playing the
Showbox (which unfortunately is 21+) on Dec 16.  I am *definitely* going
to be there...even if I have to sell some organs!  And it should be easy
to meet him at this venue since it's pretty straightforward...no hidden
exits or doors or anything.  Yay!

Can ya tell I'm excited?!?!  Who else is going to be there?

sarah
"...a fountain of blood in the shape of a girl..."
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Date: Sat, 13 Nov 1999 19:06:19 EST
From: "Stacey MacGrath" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) next AMP playlist (moby!)/JSBX remix info!

Bodyrock 3...is that the one with the star glasses? I don't want to tape it
if it is...thanks


>From: Hotel Detective Phizzo Jobson <[e-mail]>
>Reply-To: [e-mail]
>To: [e-mail]
>Subject: (mobility) next AMP playlist (moby!)/JSBX remix info!
>Date: Sat, 13 Nov 1999 06:45:21 -0800 (PST)
>
>
>AMP will be on at 3 am on november 14, thats
> >>>3HREE<<< AM. not 2wo am like usual. the next 2
>weeks will be on at 2 am. at least they told us ahead
>of time this time!
>
>PLAYLIST:
>
>Moby: Bodyrock 3
>Wiseguys: Ooh La La Version 2
>Mr. Scruff:Honeydew
>Moby:Run On
>Westbam:Sonic Empire
>Chems:Out Of Control
>Richie Hawtin:Minus Orange
>DJ Rap:Good To Be Alive
>Leftfield:Afrika Shox (do you need a hand? *shudder*)
>Jungle Brothers:Get Down (ROCK!)
>
>
>
>also, i got the Matador 3cd anthology thingy
>"Everything Is Nice" silly title, but it kinda clashes
>with the title of one of my fave albums ever but
>anyway it includes the entire Matador catalog EVER in
>here, and heres some info you might wanna know about
>the Jon Spencer Experimental Remixes, which Moby
>contributed  to. Its catalog number is OLE-111? ok,
>well it was first released on 5/23/95 on 12" and CDEP.
>the original version of the CDEP is out of print
>however. it was reissued on 6/23/95 on CDEP,
>remastered w/different tracks, with the same catalog
>number. then on 7/20/95 it was re-remasteres again, w/
>different tracks, again only on CDEP, same catalog #.
>anybody know if the Moby mixes are on some editions
>but not others? just in case anyone cares, theres also
>ann out of print JSBX 7" called "Bellbottoms" with the
>same catalog number, OLE-111, released 2/14/95.
>
>i highly recomend this Matador 3cd comp thingy.
>amazinng shit from Cat Power (wow, truly stunning, its
>cool that Moby is down with them too!) and JSBX
>Pavement Jega GBV!!! Sleater Kinney Pizzicato 5 (a
>charmingly weird track called "1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10
>Barbie Dolls" i love them but after listening to them
>i wonder, what the hell is up with them? seriously?)
>plu Solex and Yo La Tengo and some new groups like
>Void and Wisdom of Harry and Arsonists and Non Phixion
>that we'll hear more from later no doubt.
>
>also, I'm totally obsessed with Futurama now for some
>reason. i'll not go on about this right now, i gotta
>go.
>
>"Bender, are you jacking on in there?"
>PHIZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
>
>
>
>
>
>o
>
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Date: Sat, Nov 13 1999 18:14:49 -0500
From: [e-mail]
Subject: (mobility) amp playlist

forgive me if i am sounding stupid but what is an amp playlist?


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Date: Sun, 14 Nov 1999 00:22:46 GMT
From: "alex" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) rage powered music

>Honestly i dont see any of this in korn, i am a fan, but am still >trying
>to look at it from a non fan view.  this is evident in Limp >Bizkit,
>however, Johnathan Davis(korn's lead singer) was abused as a >child, it may
>be slightly evident this is the bands way of expressing their rage.  It can
>be offensive, however there are many >things i find far more offensive,
>that people can accept this as it >being their one and only view on the
>matter, because its all they >have heard from them.


well, if you want to get into technicalities, i was abused quite cruelly as
a child, and i'm not about to tote it around or make a living out of it.  he
(jonathan davis) isn't going on stage and saying "don't molest or beat
children" is he?  not the last time i checked.  i don't have a problem with
him expressing rage (god forbid, what kind of hypocrite would i be?), but it
wouldn't hurt for him to come out and be a spokesperson for a charity group
against child abusers would it?

i think if there's going to be rage in music, it should focus on resolving
it, not keep repeating itself endlessly.  it should reach the end of its
cathartic process (or at least show some signs of getting there after a
while).  this part is largely lacking...though not in korn exclusively, mind
you.  i'm talking in the vast expanse of music in general.

- -alex

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Date: Sat, 13 Nov 1999 22:41:21 -0800
From: "Chris Hand" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Found a interesting track..

Found "Black Hole Sun" with Moby apparently playing acoustic basically
strumming chords, and Mimi Goese singing..only about 2 mins long..but
interesting.
Chris

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Date: Sat, 13 Nov 1999 22:37:18 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: (mobility) 202?maybe too harsh

For the price I paid I can't bash the 202.but,for everything it can do
there's five it can't.i know i shouldn't expect much out of it.all in all it
works great as an effects box for vocals.

 -spaz

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Date: Sat, 13 Nov 1999 22:41:34 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: (mobility) of fruity loops and smart media

 if i ever get rid of the sampler i'll be more than happy to send off the
cards to you.though financially that''s in the far off future.as far as the
fruity loops machine goes,being behind the times like i am,i've never heard
of it.but,i'm intrigued.so anything anyone can tell me will be greatly
appreciated.

 -spaz

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Date: Sun, 14 Nov 1999 14:09:25 +0100
From: "Bart van Eijck" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Found a interesting track..

Chris wrote:
>Found "Black Hole Sun" with Moby apparently playing acoustic basically
>strumming chords, and Mimi Goese singing..only about 2 mins long..but
>interesting.


This is from a Dutch show called "2 meter sessies" where artists
perform live and often (not always) acoustic.  The radio station
played it before the Moby performance on Pinkpop 1998 as an
introduction to the artist (they played a bit of all artists before they
went on stage) I wish I had the whole "2 meter sessies" show with
Moby, but I only have this one track...

Thanks for your replies on the misogyny thing, I only hope I
haven't started new thread here about women rights.

(<>,,<>) http://www.geocities.com/animal_sight/
np: Dance 2 Trance - We came in peace (UK remix '93)

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Date: Sun, 14 Nov 1999 12:47:39 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) reverb!

can anyone tell me when the reverb with Moby in it will air....thank you..elie

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Date: Sun, 14 Nov 1999 22:52:44 -0500
From: "Tikva Morowati" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) moby's e-mails

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hey guys,
my computer just crashed and the e-mails moby wrote were lost.  can =
someone please send them to me.  thanks,
tikva

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Date: Sun, 14 Nov 1999 20:45:26 -0800 (PST)
From: megan check <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) tour?

someone mentioned moby going to be on tour with blink
182 and a few other bands..when is that and does
anyone know the other bands going to be there?



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Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1999 00:14:59 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) reverb!

isnt it november 30th?

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Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1999 00:19:06 -0700
From: kimbalina <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) tour?

> >someone mentioned moby going to be on tour with blink
> >182 and a few other bands..when is that and does
> >anyone know the other bands going to be there?

Oh no, it's not a tour!  I would be so shocked if he toured w/ Blink
182!  Ohmygod!  No, in Phx he's having a show (being put on by The Edge
in Phx) w/ Blink and 311.  Uh, ick.  I'm soo not a fan of 311 or Blink.
But yeah, so that's just a phx thing as far as I know.  If he plays w/
those bands in another city, it's a co-inky-dink I'm sure.

- --kimby

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Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1999 02:15:40 -0600
From: "Joshua Schilling" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) tour?

- ----- Original Message -----
From: kimbalina <[e-mail]>
To: <[e-mail]>
Sent: Monday, November 15, 1999 1:19 AM
Subject: Re: (mobility) tour?


> > >someone mentioned moby going to be on tour with blink
> > >182 and a few other bands..when is that and does
> > >anyone know the other bands going to be there?
>
> Oh no, it's not a tour!  I would be so shocked if he toured w/ Blink
> 182!  Ohmygod!  No, in Phx he's having a show (being put on by The Edge
> in Phx) w/ Blink and 311.  Uh, ick.  I'm soo not a fan of 311 or Blink.
> But yeah, so that's just a phx thing as far as I know.  If he plays w/
> those bands in another city, it's a co-inky-dink I'm sure.
>
> --kimby
>
> well, he's playing here in chicago with them as well for Q101 (radio)
along with filter, fiona apple and a bunch of others.  I'm going, but just
for moby, it'll be worth sitting through the others to see him.

josh

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Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1999 06:48:00 -0800 (PST)
From: megan check <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) tour?

ok...thank you.

- --- kimbalina <[e-mail]> wrote:
> > >someone mentioned moby going to be on tour with
> blink
> > >182 and a few other bands..when is that and does
> > >anyone know the other bands going to be there?
>
> Oh no, it's not a tour!  I would be so shocked if he
> toured w/ Blink
> 182!  Ohmygod!  No, in Phx he's having a show (being
> put on by The Edge
> in Phx) w/ Blink and 311.  Uh, ick.  I'm soo not a
> fan of 311 or Blink.
> But yeah, so that's just a phx thing as far as I
> know.  If he plays w/
> those bands in another city, it's a co-inky-dink I'm
> sure.
>
> --kimby
>
>
>


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Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1999 06:49:11 -0800 (PST)
From: megan check <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) tour?

oh..wow really..i could probably make the chicago
one..when is it..
- --- Joshua Schilling <[e-mail]> wrote:
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: kimbalina <[e-mail]>
> To: <[e-mail]>
> Sent: Monday, November 15, 1999 1:19 AM
> Subject: Re: (mobility) tour?
>
>
> > > >someone mentioned moby going to be on tour with
> blink
> > > >182 and a few other bands..when is that and
> does
> > > >anyone know the other bands going to be there?
> >
> > Oh no, it's not a tour!  I would be so shocked if
> he toured w/ Blink
> > 182!  Ohmygod!  No, in Phx he's having a show
> (being put on by The Edge
> > in Phx) w/ Blink and 311.  Uh, ick.  I'm soo not a
> fan of 311 or Blink.
> > But yeah, so that's just a phx thing as far as I
> know.  If he plays w/
> > those bands in another city, it's a co-inky-dink
> I'm sure.
> >
> > --kimby
> >
> > well, he's playing here in chicago with them as
> well for Q101 (radio)
> along with filter, fiona apple and a bunch of
> others.  I'm going, but just
> for moby, it'll be worth sitting through the others
> to see him.
>
> josh
>
>
>


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Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1999 12:01:20 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) 'letter from moby to mobililty'

In a message dated 11/13/1999 10:56:06 AM Pacific Standard Time,
[e-mail] writes:

<< nothing.
 and this tour that i'm on looks poised to go
 on for a long
 long
 long
 time.  possibly until next september. >>

Yeah!  Theres Hope for me yet!

<speaking of which, is anyone else absolutely offended
by all of the misogyny in contemporary music?
all of these groups, limp bizkit, kid rock, eminem,
korn, etc, all seem to have some sort of misogynistic
component to their music and i find it to be truly
awful and offensive. >

YES!  Grr.. People are all wondering what's happening to the moral and
ethical values of the world.. Well duh!  You have dumb asses like them
promoting male assholeness, women subordiantion, and all the things that
moral values are supposed to go against and people look up to them....  And
you know, within a year, they're all going to be hasbeens or dead from drug
overdose.. so what's the point of looking up to such losers?  I have to
admit, of the above listed, I like Kid Rock the best...  I think it's cuz he
has a personal midget..

Toodles.

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Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1999 12:06:47 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) 'letter from moby to mobililty'

In a message dated 11/13/1999 1:37:53 PM Pacific Standard Time,
[e-mail] writes:

<< the
 weird thing is that their fans don't seem realize that misogynistic
component
 attached to the music... not to mention mtv who did a wonderful job of
 exposing them to death.
  >>


I think they do, they just think its cool.. And the worse thing is that the
girls go along with it because they think they're supposed too... But excuse
me, poll for the girls ~  Would you actually want to date Fred Durst or Kid
Rock?  I don't think so.. I would smack both of their faces so fast....  Just
because they have women issues does not mean they have to mold the world to
be as messed as they are... And MTV!  Don't even get me started...  Lil' Kim
at the VMAs was terrible and a result of the gangsta rap and asshole rock
taking over the ideals of those intergrated into the pop culture...  Think
how lovely the world would be if Moby ruled the world?

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Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1999 12:12:02 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) misogyny? THE LONGISH POST

In a message dated 11/13/1999 1:43:59 PM Pacific Standard Time,
[e-mail] writes:

<< I mean, it's *bad* to have a negative attitude towards women, ppl of
 color, gays etc however I think it's unhealthy and unrealistic for those
 views to never be represented.  How boring would it be for every song to
 be about love and cars and money and God only knows what but to not have
 songs about rape or hatred?  They exist. >>

Yeah they exist, and artist should write songs that deal with it, and showing
its there and saying this is wrong.. But that's not what Limp Bizkit (are
they spelling impaired or something) and Kid Rock do...  They glorify the
behavior... Like the whole Woodstock "show us your tits" thing... They thinks
it okay, so everyone else thinks its okay

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Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1999 12:19:19 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) Found a interesting track..

In a message dated 11/13/1999 7:33:20 PM Pacific Standard Time,
[e-mail] writes:

<< Found "Black Hole Sun" with Moby apparently playing acoustic basically
 strumming chords, and Mimi Goese singing..only about 2 mins long..but
 interesting. >>

Where, where, where????

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Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1999 10:30:32 -0700
From: kimbalina <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) misogyny? THE LONGISH POST

> >Yeah they exist, and artist should write songs that deal with it, and showing
> >its there and saying this is wrong.. But that's not what Limp Bizkit (are
> >they spelling impaired or something) and Kid Rock do...  They glorify the
> >behavior... Like the whole Woodstock "show us your tits" thing... They thinks
> >it okay, so everyone else thinks its okay

I know they aren't exactly saying "Hey, this is stupid.  Don't act like a putz!"
And I think they should account for what they're saying because as recording
artists, they have a responsibility to do so.

I mean, there are some things that come under personal taste and others that are
just violent, racist etc. depictions of what these ppl do/have done/or know of
someone doing.  I would probably say "Show me your tits!" too if I were a rock
star, Hell, I say it now.  But I'm a woman and confortable w/ my own mamaries and
I don't mind making fun here and there.  It's possible to say that in good fun
but then again, it's possible for a jock to say it and mean that it's a prelude
to date rape.  So I guess that's iffy too eh?

But really, there are things you say on stage and let ppl know it's in good fun
and then there's you being a responsible artist and saying "Here's the dealio,
I'm just painting a picture but this isn't Simon says, ok?"

- --kimby

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