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mobility-digest      Wednesday, November 3 1999      Volume 03 : Number 014



(mobility) Re: mobility-digest V3 #13
RE: (mobility) Moby in Providence/people need to relax
(mobility) vanderbilt
Re: (mobility) vanderbilt
RE: (mobility) vanderbilt
Re: (mobility) Vegan Power
(mobility) Re: mobility-digest V3 #10
(mobility) Underwater
Re: (mobility) smoking
Re: (mobility) moby gets trashed(animal/pets)
Re: (mobility) moby gets trashed
Re: (mobility) Re:smoking
Re: (mobility) smoking
Re: (mobility) moby gets trashed
Re: (mobility) Moby In Atlanta
(mobility) another anti-moby turd/TMBG

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Date: Wed, 03 Nov 1999 01:11:11 +0000
From: "T.R.Bradley" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Re: mobility-digest V3 #13

Ok, it is slightly Moby related, I don't like the new GnR single, I wish
Moby had produced it, but then Play wouldn't have been made, and my
friends wouldn't be Moby fans suddenly, oh shit.

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Date: Tue, 2 Nov 1999 21:38:50 -0500
From: "Paul  Medeiros" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (mobility) Moby in Providence/people need to relax

I believe that the show will be all ages.  You might want to try lupo's web
site http://www.lupos.com .  I'm trying to get the day off of work to go to
that show.  It will be my first moby show.  Anyway what type of merchandise
do they sell at the shows like cd's ....

Also I just finished reading my mail for the past two days and some of you
people need to relax a bit.  I mean moby is an incredible musician but some
people here have him under the microscope.  People on this list is flipping
out whether or not if he smokes, or animals at a pet store.  Personally I
wouldn't buy a dog at a pet store.  So let's not be too critical on what
people may do or believe.
- -paul

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [e-mail]
> [mailto:[e-mail]]On Behalf Of Stacey MacGrath
> Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 1999 2:20 PM
> To: [e-mail]
> Subject: (mobility) Moby in Providence
>
>
> Hey does anybody have any info on the Moby show at Providence, RI
> show? Like
> is it only for 18+ (I'm praying not)? I went to WBCN website and it was
> posted there but there weren't any details on it, except that it was at
> Lupo's in Providence. Thanks.
>
> ~Stacey
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Date: Tue, 2 Nov 1999 23:13:46 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: (mobility) vanderbilt

im going to the show in LI.  i live in the city but am taking a train and my
friend's driving.  i'll try and find out what mode of transportation will get
u there. by the way do u guys know how much the tix are?  thanx.  this will
be the 6th time ive seen the man in 5 months!
~animal lib, vegan power ; )

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Date: Tue, 2 Nov 1999 23:20:01 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) vanderbilt

Hi!

The tickets are priced at $18 the show is Nov 24th at the Vanderbilt at 7pm.
There is also going to be another band, Lo-Fidelity All Stars.  Has anyone
ever been to this venue?

The location
The Vanderbilt
1600 Round Swamp Rd.
Plainview, NY 11803

Hopefully I'll see many of you there!

Marisa

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Date: Tue, 2 Nov 1999 23:37:01 -0800
From: "Chris Hand" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (mobility) vanderbilt

I've been to it 4 times...
usually don't have barriers set up..you walk upstairs to a small ballroom
type place, has a balcony..and the security is really lax...all the shows
are usually sponsored by WLIR..the parking is a real bitch though, so if you
drive get their early..it is right off the LIE on the right by a hotel.  I
really like the venue, cause it's a place for intimate shows.
Anyways, gotta go..
Chris

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Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 1999 8:20 PM
To: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) vanderbilt


Hi!

The tickets are priced at $18 the show is Nov 24th at the Vanderbilt at 7pm.
There is also going to be another band, Lo-Fidelity All Stars.  Has anyone
ever been to this venue?

The location
The Vanderbilt
1600 Round Swamp Rd.
Plainview, NY 11803

Hopefully I'll see many of you there!

Marisa

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Date: Wed, 3 Nov 1999 01:13:39 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) Vegan Power

In a message dated 11/2/99 6:24:54 PM Central Standard Time,
[e-mail] writes:

<< you know what I've got going through my head? Sa-see-sa-say. from Sweet
 Lullaby.  Deep Forest's Made in Japan is pretty cool.  The live version of
 SL is AMAZING.
  >>

I bet. I love that song and all the rest of Deep Forest. I'm wishing I had
enough money to get the CD.  :(

                           ~Felicia

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Date: Wed, 3 Nov 1999 02:51:24 -0800 (PST)
From: Christopher Laine <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Re: mobility-digest V3 #10

Hello, all.  This is actually the first time I've
mailed Mobility since sending my intro post about a
year ago...
Anyway, I have two questions:

1) I purchased the WDMHFSB single with the video, but
I can't seem to locate the video on the disk.  Whever
I put it in my computer, only the audio files seem to
register (all of which are very nice, IMHO).  I've
gone through my media player program and still can't
locate the darn thing.  Any suggestions?

2) I missed my chance at seeing Moby in the States,
and now Is ee he's got plans to do some shows in
Australia and Mew Zealand.  Anybody hear if he is
coming to Japan?  and if so, any ideas of when?

Thanks.

Chris


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Date: Wed, 3 Nov 1999 02:56:11 -0800 (PST)
From: Christopher Laine <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Underwater

I actually had Underwater in my hands about 2 years
ago and decided not to buy it.  I'm kicking myself
now....  It was used, and that was before I was really
'into' Moby.  Ah, the ignorance of youth!

Chris


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Date: Wed, 3 Nov 1999 06:20:45 -0800 (PST)
From: megan check <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) smoking

I think you are right. I don't believe all the things
he says in his essays but i can see where he is coming
from.

- --- [e-mail] wrote:
> In a message dated 11/1/99 1:53:43 PM Pacific
> Standard Time,
> [e-mail] writes:
>
> << I don't think Moby is a smoker. I happen to be a
> cigarette smoker, I know
>  it's bad but it's very hard to quit. I would still
> respect Moby. >>
> '
> Joy!  He's not.  Direct quote from 1996 booklet to
> Mixmag Vol. 2 "Moby is an
> extremist.  Testotal.  Drug-free.  Vegan.
> Agressively anti-smoking."  Hah.  I
> can love this man again.  In his Play essays he even
> states he doesn't use
> drugs (so that thwarted those evil drug rumors).  He
> even made vegan sound
> not so bad, even though I still don't believe in it,
> I can understand why he
> does it.  I agree with a lot of his reasons, but as
> humans, we're omnivores,
> and like other omnivores, we eat both plant and
> animals.  So I feel that I
> have rediscovered the man behind the music and I am
> happy once more.
>
>
> "You can't edit yourself" ~ Beck Hansen
>
> Are you addicted to breathing? ~ Me
>
>


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Date: Wed, 3 Nov 1999 06:25:35 -0800 (PST)
From: megan check <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) moby gets trashed(animal/pets)

the only place i don't like going is a pound..now
those are some sad dogs..and believe me if you get a
dog from the pound they never recover from the
experience..i got a dog from the pound last year
because my dog died of a heart attack the day after
christmas..and i can't put her in the kennel and any
time someone leaves she whines until they come back..

- --- david chamberlain <[e-mail]>
wrote:
> those pets are not sad and depressed, they're
> acting.  How else is
> anyone gonna buy them? no one wants to go to a pet
> store to buy an angry
> repressed animal.  When my dog needs/wants
> something, she gives me the
> puppy dog sad look.  Shes nto really sad she just
> knows how to play into
> MY WEAKNESS.
>
> people like the sad lil puppy dogs
>
> i strongly oppose any attempts to prevent animals
> from being cute. =P
>
> dave
>
> ps, if you don't understand this post, then you
> should be the one in the
> cage.
>
>


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Date: Wed, 3 Nov 1999 06:28:49 -0800 (PST)
From: megan check <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) moby gets trashed

When i was telling my mom about Moby she said she
thought he lived a depressing life..but i don't think
so..he's very passionate about what he believes in and
i admire him for that..so more power to him

- --- [e-mail] wrote:
> In a message dated 11/1/99 8:30:44 PM Pacific
> Standard Time,
> [e-mail] writes:
>
> << t's just when people get so nit picky with
> everything..to where say Moby
>  can not even function because he is totally
> constrained by like vegan must
>  not hurt the world in any way and consume plants
> and water for the rest of
>  his life rules...it's just really uneeded pressure.
>  People can change their
>  mind with things...I love Moby immensely... >>
>
> I don't give a flying fuck if he's vegan or not.
> Jesus.  Go out eat a slab
> of cow.  Whatever makes you tick.  I don't care and
> I wouldn't think less of
> him if he did.  I'm not vegan, I wouldn't never
> become one, but I can
> understand what he's saying.  And I know he believes
> in choice.  The question
> wasn't vegan, it was smoking.  And I am incredibly
> anti-smoking and it makes
> me sad because it brings images in my head  of Moby
> performing through a hole
> in his throat (brainwashing comercials worked
> amazingly on me on the smoking
> point, don't you think?)  And you did to attack me,
> you quoted my posting and
> then went spewing off in a rage. Calm down and take
> in what I was saying.  It
> would make me sad.  Enough said. Contained animals
> make me sad.  Sad puppy
> faces in pet stores make me want to cry and I have
> to run out of the stores.
> Some zoos make me sad if the animals look depressed,
> but that has nothing to
> do with Moby so I won't digress cuz I know how "off
> topic" discussion piss
> people off.  Just accept people for what they think
> and move forward.  Calm
> down.  Kurt Cobain was tragic, but there was more to
> his death than the media
> pressure to be angst poster boy.  He had issues
> beyond that and you can't
> blame the world because he had other psychological
> issues like everyone else.
>  Like you said, the guy's human.  There's complexity
> beyond the obvious.
> Again I digress.
>
>
> "You can't edit yourself" ~ Beck Hansen
>
> Are you addicted to breathing? ~ Me
>
>


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Date: Wed, 3 Nov 1999 06:31:11 -0800 (PST)
From: megan check <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Re:smoking

haven't you ever heard the saying "drugs are a crutch
for those who can't deal with reality"...sometimes
you'll see it the other way around "reality is a
crutch for those who can't deal with drugs"


- --- [e-mail] wrote:
> In a message dated 11/1/99 9:07:59 PM Pacific
> Standard Time,
> [e-mail] writes:
>
> << i equate drug
>  use with stupidity  >>
>
> Not true.  Some brilliant people use drugs because
> they need an escape.  I
> don't use drugs either, but as a child of an
> ex-druggie, drugs are used as an
> escape from reality.  And brilliant people see more
> truth in the world than
> most and can be more depressed and feel the
> heaviness of the world and need
> escape.  I know i'm digressing but I had to comment
> on that because not all
> druggies are burn-out losers and I had to defend
> them.  Enough.
>
>
> "You can't edit yourself" ~ Beck Hansen
>
> Are you addicted to breathing? ~ Me
>
>


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Date: Wed, 3 Nov 1999 15:23:09 +0200
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) smoking

Just to be accurate and a bit disappointed

> Joy!  He's not.  Direct quote from 1996 booklet to Mixmag Vol. 2 "Moby is an
> extremist.  Teetotal.

He's not teetotal anymore i guess. We've discussed this last year i guess, and
i got a bit sad about it, because i somehow can't match Moby with drinking.
And who know which of Moby's radicalisms will fall down next. Drugs ? Meat ?
Eggs ? or Cheese ?
everything dies.

here's the rest of the MixMag booklet stuff :

> Drug-free.  Vegan. Agressively anti-smoking."


enjoy,

Kohut.

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Date: Wed, 3 Nov 1999 06:36:35 -0800 (PST)
From: megan check <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) moby gets trashed

yeah i know what you mean..i really love to go to his
shows..i'd be satisfied just seeing him once..but the
distance..that's the downfall..

- --- [e-mail] wrote:
> i really want to go to this show but the problem for
> me is the distance...how
> far is it...i mean, i don't want to get stuck in the
> city because of no
> trains...peace...elie
>
>


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Date: Wed, 3 Nov 1999 06:40:52 -0800 (PST)
From: megan check <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby In Atlanta

Don't they ever put Moby on tv..some of his concerts
or something..for us poor unfortunates..

- --- Kerry Cianos <[e-mail]> wrote:
>   Did anyone catch the Moby show last night at the
> Roxy Theater in Atlanta?!
> It was my first time seeing Moby live and it was
> awesome!  I'm sure much
> like what everyone else has said the concerts were
> like - very high-energy,
> cool lighting, and excellent music (of course).  I
> happened to get a spot
> right next to the stage and it was very awesome and
> very loud!  One of my
> ears is still ringing...
>
>   Concert highlights include an impromptu partial
> version of "Freebird" and
> Moby going into the crowd for a while... Someone
> asked him for his "magic"
> tambourine and he said he couldn't give it away, but
> he did take off his
> shirt and give it to a girl in the audience who was
> obviously a mega-fan.  I
> can't remember the entire setlist but he did played
> several tracks from
> Play, a few from EIW, and some of his earlier
> classics like "Go", etc.  He
> didn't play hardly any songs from Animal Rights,
> which was disappointing;
> the only song he play was TWIRFMR...
>
>   Anyways, it was an excellent concert and very
> enjoyable... if you haven't
> seen him yet and get a chance, do it!
>
>   kerry
>
>
>


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Date: Wed, 3 Nov 1999 07:30:26 -0800 (PST)
From: Hotel Detective Phizzo Jobson <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) another anti-moby turd/TMBG

wowee just in time for this whole Len controversy!

"is this the aisle for people who hate moby?"
"and have 10 items or less"
"13, 12, 11, 10:"

(from SPIN letters page)
CUTTIN' UP THE LATEST DON MCLEAN WAX LIKE IT AIN'T
NOBODY'S BUSINESS
This is concerning that Moby character. He's that
limey geek who dresses funny and does house music,
right? I was in a dance club during spring break and
the DJ played Van Morrison's classics "Brown Eyed
Girl". The whole place went nuts and everyone
continued to shake their collective groove thangs. All
we need is some moree DJ's with good taste who'll play
some classic rock. Hey, Moby, pack up your turntables
and synthesizers and head back to England.
Carl Showalter
Elmira, New York

Editor's note: Moby is from Connecticut.

HAA-HA!

my response:
Not only does he drop Van Morrison is his DJ sets
(really, ddoes he? has any1ne heard him do this?
cool!), but when i saw him at  Toads (hands down best
show EVER) his band dropped a bit of "American Woman"
before launching into "Bodyrock" and he's been known
to play country versions of "Feeling So Real" and
acoustic versions of "Go" and his new cd mixes gospel
and blues tunes with hip-hop beats, scratching and
funk guitar. What's wrong with being eclectic? And
actually, you're dissing yourself because you even say
that the crowd is still having it. That's why I love
Moby fans, they're so damn open-minded.

ok, so i saw They Might Be Giants in concert recently.
ROCK!!!! except that the opening act SUCKED and got on
a full hour and a half late (even Moby's opener was
only half hour late! and at least we had Dave The Wave
spinning tunes...) and by the time TMBG took the stage
it was almost MIDNITE......BUT they sure damn rocked
the house. of course  when "Ana Ng" came on we almost
got squished by the crowds going nuts (heh, my sister
actaully dropped some guy crowdsurfing! it was so
funny!) so we had to go to the back of the club where
we wouldnt get killed, but after that it was just
non-stop rock. well, actually they did stop twice. but
they did 2wo encores! one was to do "Particle Man" and
i love how they messed up the words too, the
encorporated "Let It Be": "person man hates particle
man, let it be... person man person man person man
person man, saying person man, person man, person man"
they did that in "Dr. Worm" too: "in my hour of
darkness, she is standing in my way, speaking words of
wisdom Dr. Worm" and in the 2nd encore they did
"Istanbul" with a teasing long guitar solo in front.
oh yeah, before "Shoehorn With Teeth" they did...THE
GLOCKENSPIEL!!!! they were like, Who's going to play
THE GLOCKENSPIEL!?!?!? and they got the drummer, and
in the song they only actually used it 3hreee times!
DING!
you just had to be there......

my god, what does this have to do with Moby?
hopefully TMBG are Moby fans, thats probly likely
right?

the show was great but it just pales in comparison to
Moby, but thats only cuz Moby is just the greatest
ever. but for what TMBG is, they rock too. altho i
wish they'd play more of their earlier stuff and use
wierder instruments like they did back then but
whattayagonnado?

oh yeah also in SPIN it has an ad for Hackers 3 and it
says "Why Can't It Stop" is previously unreleased.
uh........ and also it reviews the Bad Brains tribute
Moby's on (5 out of 10) and it says this about moby:
"I guess it's the thought that counts. Cave In's "I
Luv I Jah" recalls Modern English's "I Melt With You"
[shudder] and stretches the  ragga standard an
additional six minutes. MOBY's rendition of the 1982
_ROIR Sessions_ classic "Sailin' On" deconstructs the
ringing fuzz of Dr. Know's electric guitar amid sleepy
piano runs, airy strings, measured drum-machine punch,
and warm blues chants. This ditty puts the Brains'
songwriting prowess in perspective: Their sound wasn't
just hard, it was _complicated._"

So i guess they liked it? anybody heard this? is this
cd even out yet? its called "Never Give In: A Tribute
To The Bad brains" on century Media.

why am i even online? i'm supposed to be sick! i'm not
at school! and tomorrow i got a funeral to go to so im
not at school either and last two days was "staff
developement"/election day..... when the hell am i
ever gonna go to school again? i think i'm losing my
perspicacity! gaaaaaaa!

peace, Phizzo ;)

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