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mobility-digest      Wednesday, October 13 1999      Volume 02 : Number 158



(mobility) mon top 10 disques
(mobility) Re: Animal Rights
Re: (mobility) Top Albums
Re: (mobility) Top Albums
Re: (mobility) Re: Animal Rights
(mobility) Animal rights story
RE: (mobility) Animal rights story
RE: (mobility) Re: Animal Rights
Re: (mobility) Top Albums
Re: (mobility) Animal Rights
(mobility) Mimi Goese
Re: (mobility) Animal rights story
Re: (mobility) Animal Rights
Re: (mobility) WDMHFSB track listing? & Coachella
Re: (mobility) Top Albums
Re: (mobility) Animal Rights
Re: (mobility) Animal Rights
Re: (mobility) Animal rights story
(mobility) Added to the collection
Re: (mobility) Animal Rights
(mobility) letterman and buffy
Re: (mobility) letterman and buffy

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Date: Tue, 12 Oct 1999 16:47:21 -0700
From: danny legare <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) mon top 10 disques

in no order-
it was hard enough to find 10- and it WILL change.
At a first glance:

pixies- doolittle
massive attack- mezzanine
voodoo child- end of everything (UK version)
slowdive- souvlaki/just for a day
dead can dance- into the labyrinth
nine inch nails- pretty hate machine
spice girls- spiceworld
sinead o'connor- the lion and the cobra
the cure- disintegration
jane's addiction- ritual del habitual


yikes, i just thought of another oh, i don't know 40 titles....

:)

Danny

has anyone heard the ferry corsten mix of WDMHFSB??

I'm a HUGE ferry corsten freak, and hearing his version would be ummm... good?

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Date: Tue, 12 Oct 1999 16:49:17 -0700
From: [e-mail]
Subject: (mobility) Re: Animal Rights

>The one thing that strikes me as odd with these top album lists is that
>while Everything Is Wrong and Play are often listed near the top Animal
>Rights is rarely mentioned=2E=20=


My guess is that alot of people on the list were not=20=
noisy guitar fans prior to becoming Moby fans=2E

All those that grew up on Led Zeppelin and Black=20=
Sabbath say "Aye"=2E


Aye,

Deemo


np: Pizzicato Five - Soft Landing On The Moon

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Date: Tue, 12 Oct 1999 20:54:32 -0400 (EDT)
From: one woman army <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Top Albums

well here goes my two cents:

(in no particular order)

massive attack:  everything  (they're my favorite - it would be
    sacrilegious for me to choose!)
duke ellington:  far east suite
roni size/reprazent:  new forms
magnetic fields:  charm of the highway strip
portishead:  dummy and portishead
moby:  play
marvin gaye:  what's going on
pharcyde:  bizarre ride 2 the pharcyde
public enemy:  fear of a black planet
unrest:  imperial f.f.r.r.
ella fitzgerald:  sings the duke ellington song book
velvet underground:  velvet underground
cibo matto:  viva!  la woman
tricky:  maxinquaye
r.e.m.:  chronic town
slits:  cut

of course, the list goes on, and on....

                    *irene*

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Date: Tue, 12 Oct 1999 21:10:57 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) Top Albums

In a message dated 10/12/1999 5:55:35 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
[e-mail] writes:

> pharcyde:  bizarre ride 2 the pharcyde
good stuff also...
man..i have way too many favorite albums....elie

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Date: Tue, 12 Oct 1999 20:05:43 -0500
From: "Daniel Orion Davis" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Re: Animal Rights

>The one thing that strikes me as odd with these top album lists is that
>while Everything Is Wrong and Play are often listed near the top Animal
>Rights is rarely mentioned.

>My guess is that alot of people on the list were not noisy guitar fans
prior to becoming Moby >fans.

>All those that grew up on Led Zeppelin and Black Sabbath say "Aye".

Actually...I was heavy metal freak growing up, and still listen to a lot of
noisy guitar music...I just don't think Animal Rights is his best album by
far....(in fact I'd say that it's the worst I've heard...which is not saying
much...I still think it's a really good album...)  I rarely listen to it,
because when I want noisy guitar music there's a lot of things I'd much
rather hear, and when I want to hear Moby, I don't think of Animal
Rights....

I know that's sacrilege to a lot of people on the list...

Daniel

P.S. Animal Rights was, however, my first exposure to Mr. Moby

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Date: Tue, 12 Oct 1999 22:18:30 EDT
From: "Stacey MacGrath" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Animal rights story

Hey thought you all might find this a bit interesting.  My friend sent me
this tape full of stories and bits from Neil Gaiman and I found this tidbit
that fully reminded me of a moby point of view on animal rights and the
sort.  Sort of spooky if you think about it....

~Stacey

So without further delay, here is the story:


"Baby Cakes"

'A few years back all the animals went away.  We woke up one morning and
they just weren't there anymore.  They didn't even leave us a note or say
goodbye.  We'd never figured out where they'd gone.  We missed them.  Some
of us thought that the world had ended, but it hadn't.  There just weren't
anymore animals.  No cats or rabbits, no dogs or whales, no fish in the
seas, no birds in the skies.  We were all alone.  We didn't know what to do.
  We wandered around, lost for a time, and then someone pointed out that
just because we didn't have animals anymore, that was no reason to change
our lives.  No reason to change our diets or test products that might cause
us harm.  After all, there were still babies.  Babies can't talk, then can
hardly move, a baby is not a rational thinking creature.  We made babies.
And we used them.  Some of them we ate.  Baby flesh is tender.  We flayed
their skin and decorated ourselves in it; baby leather is soft and
comfortable.  Some of them we tested.  We taped open their eyes, dripped
detergents and shampoos in, a drop at a time.  We scarred them and scalded
them.  We burned them.  WE clamped them and planted electrodes into their
brains.  We grafted and we froze, and we irritated.  The babies breathed our
smoke, and the babies' veins flowed with our medicines and drugs until they
stopped breathing or until their blood ceased to flow.  It was hard, of
course, but it was necessary.  No one could deny that, with the animals gone
what else could we do?  Some people complained, of course, but then they
always do.  And everything went back to normal.  Only, yesterday all the
babies were gone.  We don't know where they went; we didn't even see them
go.  We don't know what we're going to do without them.  But we'll think of
something.  Humans are smart.  It's what makes us superior to the animals
and the babies.  We'll figure something out.

                        ~ Niel Gaiman

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Date: Tue, 12 Oct 1999 23:19:20 -0700
From: "Chris Hand" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (mobility) Animal rights story

That is just basically a ripoff of that old short story...I think it was
called "a proposition"
where the guy shows the advantages of eating baby meat and all the good it
would be for society and published it in a paper.  Think around the late
1800's early 1900's...
maybe someone else will remember it also
Chris

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To: [e-mail]
Subject: (mobility) Animal rights story


Hey thought you all might find this a bit interesting.  My friend sent me
this tape full of stories and bits from Neil Gaiman and I found this tidbit
that fully reminded me of a moby point of view on animal rights and the
sort.  Sort of spooky if you think about it....

~Stacey

So without further delay, here is the story:


"Baby Cakes"

'A few years back all the animals went away.  We woke up one morning and
they just weren't there anymore.  They didn't even leave us a note or say
goodbye.  We'd never figured out where they'd gone.  We missed them.  Some
of us thought that the world had ended, but it hadn't.  There just weren't
anymore animals.  No cats or rabbits, no dogs or whales, no fish in the
seas, no birds in the skies.  We were all alone.  We didn't know what to do.
  We wandered around, lost for a time, and then someone pointed out that
just because we didn't have animals anymore, that was no reason to change
our lives.  No reason to change our diets or test products that might cause
us harm.  After all, there were still babies.  Babies can't talk, then can
hardly move, a baby is not a rational thinking creature.  We made babies.
And we used them.  Some of them we ate.  Baby flesh is tender.  We flayed
their skin and decorated ourselves in it; baby leather is soft and
comfortable.  Some of them we tested.  We taped open their eyes, dripped
detergents and shampoos in, a drop at a time.  We scarred them and scalded
them.  We burned them.  WE clamped them and planted electrodes into their
brains.  We grafted and we froze, and we irritated.  The babies breathed our
smoke, and the babies' veins flowed with our medicines and drugs until they
stopped breathing or until their blood ceased to flow.  It was hard, of
course, but it was necessary.  No one could deny that, with the animals gone
what else could we do?  Some people complained, of course, but then they
always do.  And everything went back to normal.  Only, yesterday all the
babies were gone.  We don't know where they went; we didn't even see them
go.  We don't know what we're going to do without them.  But we'll think of
something.  Humans are smart.  It's what makes us superior to the animals
and the babies.  We'll figure something out.

                        ~ Niel Gaiman

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Date: Tue, 12 Oct 1999 23:55:50 -0400
From: "Eric M. Goldberg" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (mobility) Re: Animal Rights

> noisy guitar music...I just don't think Animal Rights is his best album by
> far....(in fact I'd say that it's the worst I've heard...which is
> not saying
> much...I still think it's a really good album...)  I rarely listen to it,
> because when I want noisy guitar music there's a lot of things I'd much
> rather hear, and when I want to hear Moby, I don't think of Animal


Well Animal Rights wasnt my first listen of moby.. (move ep).
And I agree that although it may not be the worst album all time or
whatever.
its definitely not his best.
honestly i dont really listen to the album itself, i only open it to get
to the LITTLE IDIOT bonus cd :)
once and awhile when im on a moby binge i will, but not too often.

speaking of little idiot, i'd love a smaller idiot sequel or something :)

eric
[e-mail]
http://www.mp3.com/tonematrix

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Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1999 00:02:23 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) Top Albums

In a message dated 10/12/99 12:10:38 PM Central Daylight Time,
[e-mail] writes:

<< 6.)  kraftwerk "the mix" >>


 Geeze! another one I forgot!

                                   ~Felicia

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Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1999 00:07:02 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) Animal Rights

In a message dated 10/12/1999 7:34:24 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
[e-mail] writes:

<< i dont understand how anyone who has ever been in love
 could listen to AR and not be moved. >>

Y'know, I never, ever thought of myself as a hard rock/punk fan before.  And
I still don't.  But I did enjoy the hell out of Animal Rights.  I especially
love "Say Its All Mine," all the pretty instrumental works at the end, and of
course "Revolver."  It's definitely one of the most schizophrenic albums I've
ever heard, but that's what I dig about it.  That's what I dig about Moby in
general.  He makes songs that can break my heart or make me euphoric or calm
me down or, in the case of AR, allow me to vicariously scream out my
frustrations.  It's a great album because I think that it works on a whole
lot of levels.  For whatever my opinion is worth.

Robyn

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Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1999 00:16:10 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: (mobility) Mimi Goese

I have just bought the apparently essential EIW.  And I love it and am
playing the beejeezus out of it and pissing off my roommates and all that
good stuff.  I'm particularly enchanted with "When Its Cold I'd Like to Die,"
both because of the gorgeous instrumentals and Mimi Goese's heart-breaking
vocals.  Who is this Mimi?  I know that she co-wrote WICILTD and Into the
Blue with Moby, but what else has she done?  I'm most curious.

Robyn

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Date: Tue, 12 Oct 1999 22:11:54 -0700
From: kimbalina <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Animal rights story

> >That is just basically a ripoff of that old short story...I think it was
> >called "a proposition"
> >where the guy shows the advantages of eating baby meat and all the good it
> >would be for society and published it in a paper.  Think around the late
> >1800's early 1900's...
> >maybe someone else will remember it also
>

I remember, I think it's "A Modest Proposal".  Yep, I remember that.  It's
great, yet slightly offensive reading for any one who's interested.  I recomend
it.

- --kimby

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Date: Tue, 12 Oct 1999 22:13:37 -0700
From: kimbalina <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Animal Rights

>
> << i dont understand how anyone who has ever been in love
>  could listen to AR and not be moved. >>
>

You mean Animal Rights?  I've been in love and I don't really see the love
thing.  I don't really think that AR is really among moby's best work.  I think
that Ambiant is up there, End of Everything, Play even.  But that's just me.

- --kimby

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Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1999 01:36:33 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) WDMHFSB track listing? & Coachella

Coachella ~ Sadly it was like 30 minutes away from me and I couldn't go (I
was planning to be out of town till sickness struck.)  But I heard it kicked
ass and that DJ Shadow and Moby were rivals for the audience on SUnday.
Cdnow's AllSTar Daily news had an article about him for today (Headline is
about DJ Shadow though)  The crappy thing is that no one is mentioning BT who
was playing the same day.

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Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1999 02:15:31 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) Top Albums

me too

Bjork / Homogenic
Skunk Anansie / Stoosh
Skunk Anansie / Post Orgasmic Chill
Sinead O'Connor / Universal Mother
Sinead O'Connor / Gospel Oak
Moby / Everything is Wrong
Cyndi Lauper / Sisters of Avalon
Cibo Matto / Stereotype A
Beck / Mutations
Pi / the soundtrack

other good stuff: Luscious Jackson's new album, Sting's Brand New Day, and
Sophie B Hawkin's Timbre

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Date: Tue, 12 Oct 1999 23:46:26 +0100
From: Mark Reed <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Animal Rights

> near the top Animal
>Rights is rarely mentioned.
>
I think Animal Rights is one of the best albums ever made. Certainly
Moby's best. And Little idiot is awesome as well. A shame he will
probably never repeat the style.
- --
Mark Reed

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Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1999 15:23:27 MET
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) Animal Rights

> You mean Animal Rights?  I've been in love and I don't really see the love
> thing.  I don't really think that AR is really among moby's best work.  I think
> that Ambiant is up there, End of Everything, Play even.  But that's just me.
>
> --kimby
for me,
there is a huge amount of love and feelings inside that black round piece of
plastic, which holds AR inside. and it came to me in a time, when i felt just
like the punkrock there. songs like My love will never die, Come on baby etc
have been supporting be for all that time when i felt without love and longing
for someone who cares. revolver is another story for me, but all the "love songs"
that moby made for AR - i can find myself in them.
i think, when all your prayers are left unheard, and all your dreams are only
ruins, there's nothing left for you, than to scream and be rough and hard and
brokenhearted and tell everyone, that Your Love Will Never Die...


kohut.

tip of the day:
mogwai - dial M for mogwai (kohut's Dial K for kohut remix)
:-)

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Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1999 06:55:33 -0700 (PDT)
From: DJ Pagan <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Animal rights story

- --- kimbalina <[e-mail]> wrote:
> I remember, I think it's "A Modest Proposal".
> Yep, I remember that.  It's great, yet
> slightly offensive reading for any one who's
> interested.  I recomend it.

"A Modest Proposal" by Jonathan Swift.
Not sure about the time period, but the story is excellent.

=====
DJ Pagan
"Is it wrong that I sit in a dark
 closet and listen to Dead Cities?"
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Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1999 08:10:11 PDT
From: "Stephanie Momose" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Added to the collection

Added to the collection last night:

Original double cd - Moby's "Animal Rights" & Moby's "Little Idiot" 9 track
CD.

Ha ha ha ha!

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Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1999 12:42:10 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) Animal Rights

In a message dated 10/12/99 11:08:14 PM Central Daylight Time,
[e-mail] writes:

<< That's what I dig about Moby in
 general.  He makes songs that can break my heart or make me euphoric or calm
 me down or, in the case of AR, allow me to vicariously scream out my
 frustrations.  It's a great album because I think that it works on a whole
 lot of levels.  For whatever my opinion is worth.
  >>

Wow......  Nicely said. I totally agree. AR kix!

                                       ~Felicia

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Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1999 10:01:33 PDT
From: "Ryan Gossett" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) letterman and buffy

Hi everyone,

The folks at the WB played "everloving" over the preview for next weeks
Buffy/Angel crossover (spike is back!!).  The mix was really quiet and
unobtrusive, very pretty.

Now on to Mobys performance on Letterman to be broadcast on the 15th, my
question is what song will he be performing?  Will it be "bodyrock" like he
performed on Conan?  If so, I hope they mix up his actual vocals like they
do at the concerts.  Will it be "why does my heart...", it is the new mute
single, but have they decided to release it here in the US?  WHat if it
something else like porcelain?  I know at the local college station here in
town it is blowing up, I had a first last week, when my alarm went off
porcelain was playing.  Never before have I been awakened by a Moby song,
very cool, it put me in a good mood for the rest of the day.
TTFN
Ryan

"Do or do not.  There is no try."  (Yoda, circa 1980)

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Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1999 10:51:08 PDT
From: "courtney colonna" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) letterman and buffy

i think everyone on mobility should get to vote for what song we think
should be played on letterman.  moby should perform the one with the most
votes.

personally, i think it should be "porcelain", but i have a feeling it will
be "bodyrock."

courtney


>From: "Ryan Gossett" <[e-mail]>
>Reply-To: [e-mail]
>To: [e-mail]
>Subject: (mobility) letterman and buffy
>Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1999 10:01:33 PDT
>
>Hi everyone,
>
>The folks at the WB played "everloving" over the preview for next weeks
>Buffy/Angel crossover (spike is back!!).  The mix was really quiet and
>unobtrusive, very pretty.
>
>Now on to Mobys performance on Letterman to be broadcast on the 15th, my
>question is what song will he be performing?  Will it be "bodyrock" like he
>performed on Conan?  If so, I hope they mix up his actual vocals like they
>do at the concerts.  Will it be "why does my heart...", it is the new mute
>single, but have they decided to release it here in the US?  WHat if it
>something else like porcelain?  I know at the local college station here in
>town it is blowing up, I had a first last week, when my alarm went off
>porcelain was playing.  Never before have I been awakened by a Moby song,
>very cool, it put me in a good mood for the rest of the day.
>TTFN
>Ryan
>
>"Do or do not.  There is no try."  (Yoda, circa 1980)
>
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>

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