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mobility-digest      Thursday, September 9 1999      Volume 02 : Number 120



Re: (mobility) Chicken
Re: (mobility) moby & tori amos?
(mobility) pittsburgh in review
(mobility) the vegan issue.
(mobility) Moby's pets
(mobility) wdmhfsb
Re: (mobility) Love meat!!!! (Trendy? + NO)
(mobility) Vegans? (not trying to piss you off)
(mobility) Re: pittsburgh in review
(mobility) Question about the MTV Music/Video Awards...
Re: (mobility) the vegan issue.
(mobility) Moby as ambi
(mobility) Mime-Version: 1.0
(mobility) Moby's Guitar
Re: (mobility) Moby's Guitar
Re: (mobility) 1979 disco mix
(mobility) nyu
Re: (mobility) the vegan issue. wok

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Date: Wed, 08 Sep 1999 12:03:55 -0700
From: kimbalina <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Chicken

> >That film Baraka, is incredible and Dead can Dance do the
> >introductory music - I think the track is called Yulunga
> >(Spirit Dance) or something - excellent. It's well worth
> >watching - it 'says' a lot, without saying anything.
>

Good god, more and more I wish I could just give up that tasty chicken.  *sigh*
I do feel bad for the little buggers though. :-)

>
> >So, whoever next interviews Moby, please ask him does he
> >believe in hell and has he ever done acid or funny shrooms?
>

Wow, I can see that.  I can see MOBY eating shrooms.  Why?  Dunno.

Oh, dumb question for MOBY: do you belive in keeping pets?  Do you think that's
unfair to the animals?

That's a nagging question.  But it kinda makes one wonder.

- --kimby

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Date: Wed, 08 Sep 1999 12:07:16 -0700
From: kimbalina <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) moby & tori amos?

>
>
> >is there a possible moby and tori team up in the works?
> >if so, i will be very happy.  tori tori tori!!!!!!  okay im done.
>
>

Man, that would be musical Heaven for me.  I love Tori and MOBY.  Two of my
faves.  Now all they need to do is get MORRISSEY in there and I'll be
happy.  I could just die. :-)

Anyone hear Blue Skies, the second disk in Ima by BT?  God, I love that
song.  I would love to hear Tori do a vocal track over some good old
fashion ambient-ish MOBY stuff.  Common, ya gotta love it.

- --kimby

PS sorry for all the emails, but I was gone for a few days and I'm just
responding to the emails that interest me. :-) sorry.

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Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1999 14:54:08 -0400
From: "jeff cubeta" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) pittsburgh in review

moby succeeded in blowing the minds of eveyone in attendance at his
pittsburgh show last night.

moby is in a nutshell the most impassioned, inspirational and open-minded
pop artist today - IMHO.  his show was electric, and his musicianship is
brilliant.  when asked if he has perfect pitch, moby humbly chortled and
said, "my ear is SO bad!!"  he's even cuter in person than when
photographed!!

the setlist - (it was kindly handed to me by one of moby's crew members) -

    my weakness
    find my baby
    machete
    porcelain
    james bond theme
    go
    next is the E
    everloving
    why does my heart feel so bad
    if things were perfect
    ah-ah
    bring back my happiness
    natural blues
    bodyrock
    honey

encores -
    feeling so real (country)
    feeling so real (original)
    walk this way (the aerosmith standard)
    thousand

it was said to him last night (in thank-you note form), and it shall be said
to him again - thank you, moby, for being an incredible inspiration!!  you
have changed lives!!

god bless him -

jeff

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Date: Wed, 08 Sep 1999 15:10:21 -0500
From: [e-mail] (Chris Stepanek)
Subject: (mobility) the vegan issue.

The way I look at it everyone makes personal descions in their life as to
how they choose to live it. Personally I choose not to drink, drug, smoke or
take medication. I was veggie for a long time and gradually began eating
meat again after some time and continue to eat meat every so often. The part
about evolution is true, the strong over-power the weak. That might not be
the most PC way to look at things but that is the way it is. Yes, we as
enlightened (resoning) beings, should be able to overcome this and use
compasion. Either way you look at it is just fine, we all think and should
reason for ourselves.

I do have a problem with people preaching to me when they are hypocritical
in their own actions. Like those fools who stand outside fur stores and
throw blood on people walking out (fools too) while at the same time they
have on leather shoes and belts and are wearing clothes dyed with non-vegan
dyes and such. That I have a problem with. if you sit there and preach you
better know your facts. Preaching veggie/vegan ways while wearing/using
animal products is a bit wrong.

I choose not to drink or drug or smoke or take some medications. I wear
clothes that I know (at least try to) about the dyes used the processes used
in making them. I eat meat, but don't go around preaching one should not or
should.

I come from the Straight-Edge Vegan hardcore scene of Syracuse, NY (militant
vegans among militant vegans (back in the day) for those who know hardcore).
I knew many people who became vegan on a whim and are still paying for it
today with their health. Thinking salad with Bacos is vegan and you can live
on tha with vitiamin supplements is wrong. A vegan diet is a very serious
thing, you should know what you are doing when you go on it and should ease
into it gradually. i have seen to many people hurt themselves with their own
ignorance. Even a vegitarian diet can be harmful if done wrong. DOn't stop
eating meat and just eat beams and junk food and such, not eating meat
reducs protein and to replace that you need to compensate with extra amounts
of protein rich veggies.

As far as Veganism being more compasionate and better on the planet I am not
sold on that 100%. Man-kind is a plague on this planet and every planet/land
we touch and will touch. As our nature we destroy all we touch, mankind that
is. I think industrial pollution is a bigger problem than agricultural
polution. Granted land use with crops as opposed to cattle is more
efficient, but farmers will still farm with hormones and chemicals and until
we as a world farm 100% organic the problem is still there.

Do i have an answer to these problems? Nope. Nor do i claim to. I just want
to point out a few mis-conceptons of this current ultra-PC attitude that
especially American society has.

One major step that would help however is population control. That brings up
a whole bunch of personal freedom issues though. the answer is is to have
people realize that not everyone needs 2.5 kids. How to do that is another
question.


- -
chris.stepanek / sr.designer / nny / [e-mail] / ICQ25163388
- -


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Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1999 16:31:32 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: (mobility) Moby's pets

Hey Kim :)
Okay I read in a Moby site that he does or did have a dog (Walnut) and a cat
(Daisy).  That sorta thing makes sense to me since he obviously loves animals
so much, and those kinda of social animals (ok maybe cats aren't that social
all the time...hmm...) seem to adapt well to living in different conditions
as long as we take care of 'em.  But that's my take on it...
Have a good day!

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Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1999 21:58:06 +0100
From: "Geoffrey Sproule" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) wdmhfsb

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it should make a great impact on the charts
does anyone know if moby is remixing this song?

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Date: Wed, 08 Sep 1999 14:30:49 PDT
From: "jj fish" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Love meat!!!! (Trendy? + NO)

>On Wed, Sep 08, 1999 at 11:42:14AM -0400, [e-mail] wrote:
> > i like meat and i like moby and to many, becoming a vegetarian or a
>vegan is
> > what fashion trends are calling for....it is not a belief anymore for
> > many....love..elie

None of my friends are vegan or vegetarian.

None of my friends think it's fashionable.

It's more of a pain to be vegetarian, it's less easy to eat out.

How is it fashionable?

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Date: Wed, 08 Sep 1999 14:35:41 PDT
From: "jj fish" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Vegans? (not trying to piss you off)

Hey, I was just asking for a survey, don't everybody get pissed off at me
for asking.

Just wondering.  I'm surprised at all the vegetarians, etc, here!

I'm not trying to judge or convert or anything.  I'm just
curious, since I don't have any friends in my circles that are
vegetarians... I'm the only one in my school, I tink!

Solly.

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Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1999 17:54:16 -0400
From: "jeff cubeta" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Re: pittsburgh in review

>encores -
>    feeling so real (country)
>    feeling so real (original)
>    walk this way (the aerosmith standard)
>    thousand


i forgot - moby also did "that's when i reach for my revolver" as another
encore....four encores!!!!  wooooo!!!!

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Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1999 19:19:46 -0300
From: "Dave \"DT007\" Toews" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Question about the MTV Music/Video Awards...

I am just wondering, I know that Moby will be preforming live at the MTV
Music/Video awards (09/09/99) but I am also wondering if he hiself is up for
any awards? If he is that would be very kool, and that might mean that I can
see one of his videos. (I havent seen 1 yet) I might be able to see them
becasue the music station up here in Canada (Much Music) is doing a pre-game
show, and are going to be playing alot of the videos of the nominees..
Anyway, thanks

DT

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Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1999 18:45:24 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) the vegan issue.

Hey everyone,
 I know you might all still caste judgment on me but.........
I live on ft myers beach fl, and moby is coming here Sept 14th.  I have been
a fan ever since his club days at the palladium (n.y.) where they shot club
mtv...and the like.
 I am not a vegan, but am a member of PETA. I love red meat and can't think
of my life without bar-b-que's, but at the same time I will not buy Gillette
products because they use animal testing. Call me a hypocrite, but I love
steak and eggs but can't stand animal abuse. I have 5 dogs, all rescued from
the humane shelter, and  still I eat what you people don't. I love leather,
but I have thrown "blood" on fur wearers.
 Sorry for my double standards but I think everyone is different and beyond
labels that society puts on us. To those that are vegans or even vegetarians,
I am proud of you, but I will never become what you are...
 I just hope you can understand people like me. Come Sept 14th, I will be in
my own personal heaven listening to Moby live... a first for me.

Blake

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Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1999 19:21:42 -0500
From: Joe Clark <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Moby as ambi

>  - "Do you go with boys or girls?"
>
>Moby: "A little of both. I used to be pretty much
>exclusively heterosexual, but it depends...I like people.
>It's hard for me to generalise about what my favourite
>colour is or what my favourite season is, so I can't
>generalise about my favourite gender either."

Bit of a surprise. I've spent a few hours with the Man-- not exactly
my finest performance as an intelligent human being, either-- and got
no queer vibes from him. And all previous interviews have calmly
disclaimed any homosexualist experiences. I guess people change.

The good thing is that Moby seems to have been quite successful with
grrrlz. I think only certain men would find Moby sexy. En tout cas,
by adding boyz to his repertoire, he *lives* the Woody Allen dictum
that bisexualism doubles your chances of a date on a Saturday night.

- --
           Joe Clark
           [e-mail]
           <http://www.joeclark.uni.cc>

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Date: Thu, 09 Sep 1999 15:22:01 +1200
From: Joseph Parkes <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Mime-Version: 1.0

Is there a second disk to BT's Ima?
I have the Cd but it is only 1 disk.
Where did I miss it?





Joseph Parkes [e-mail]

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Date: Thu, 09 Sep 1999 15:30:06 +1200
From: Joseph Parkes <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Moby's Guitar

Has anybody been to a concert recently where the legend himself has bought
out his Guitar and played to the masses fine tunes like New Dawn Fades or
Face It.
Please tell me.
Moby is coming to New Zealand and I'm so excited that I just can't hide it.

Plus I didn't know there was a sequel for Hackers






Joseph Parkes [e-mail]

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Date: Tue, 07 Sep 1999 23:02:12 -0500
From: Rob Skipworth <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby's Guitar

I don't know if anyone else has noticed this... i'm assuming that someone has.
Moby has an amp up on stage.  Its a Marshall amp.  But he has black tape over
the ARS so it says M      HALL
a little pointless anecdote...
but i found that rather amusing.

- ------rob

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Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 01:00:22 -0400
From: "Raven" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) 1979 disco mix

> Does anyone have a tape,mp3,minidisk, ANYTHING that has a recording of the
> 1979 remix disco mix?  I talked to moby about it in st. louis and he told
> me it was quite beautiful.  I'm dying to hear this.  I asked him about
> plans to release it and he never gave me a straight answer.  I remember a
> rumor once that he was going to take all the pumpkins samples out of it
> and just release it himself.

Are you sure it was his remix?  As far as I've ever heard there's only been
the one....there were four remixes in general, but I don't remember who did
the other three.  Two were pretty club-friendly, and I still have at least
one mp3'd if you want it.  (I think it's the vocal mix).

Let me know, preferably over private email...
Chris

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Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 02:04:03 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: (mobility) nyu

it;s my last semester at NYU and i truly thought i was leaving the place w/
nothing good to say...until tonight!  i just came back from seeing moby at
irving plaza and he gave a phenomenal performance as usual!  he looked so
cute in his fitting black jeans and white tank top.  he played the usuals and
also played revolver!!! and some cover song (not the james bond theme
song)...sounded like metal.

some highlights:
~he took a sip of his poland spring water and then handed it out to the
audience
~he said we all looked sexy
~he played a country version of "feeling so real"  which was actually quite
good.
~right before that he was playing the guitar while telling a story: he said
in 1994 he lived on 10 street and was in this bad relationship.  and was also
very depressed and miserable that time.  but also started making disco songs.

the only shitty thing was that i didnt get a chance to meet him after the
show -no one usually does in nyc, unless youve got some vip pass - he's
ususally at some after party.  so that really sucked...i waited around for
half an hour and no luck.

but he'll be in nyc again sept 13  performing live for a tv
show!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

animal lib, vegan power

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Date: Thu, 09 Sep 1999 07:53:48 +0200
From: but not _the_ frankz <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) the vegan issue. wok

F*cking agree with this!
except if PC means positive Christian...?

[learn this by heart and then preach it]

Chris Stepanek wrote:
>
> The way I look at it everyone makes personal descions in their life as to
> how they choose to live it. Personally I choose not to drink, drug, smoke or
> take medication. I was veggie for a long time and gradually began eating
> meat again after some time and continue to eat meat every so often. The part
> about evolution is true, the strong over-power the weak. That might not be
> the most PC way to look at things but that is the way it is. Yes, we as
> enlightened (resoning) beings, should be able to overcome this and use
> compasion. Either way you look at it is just fine, we all think and should
> reason for ourselves.
>
> I do have a problem with people preaching to me when they are hypocritical
> in their own actions. Like those fools who stand outside fur stores and
> throw blood on people walking out (fools too) while at the same time they
> have on leather shoes and belts and are wearing clothes dyed with non-vegan
> dyes and such. That I have a problem with. if you sit there and preach you
> better know your facts. Preaching veggie/vegan ways while wearing/using
> animal products is a bit wrong.
>
> I choose not to drink or drug or smoke or take some medications. I wear
> clothes that I know (at least try to) about the dyes used the processes used
> in making them. I eat meat, but don't go around preaching one should not or
> should.
>
> I come from the Straight-Edge Vegan hardcore scene of Syracuse, NY (militant
> vegans among militant vegans (back in the day) for those who know hardcore).
> I knew many people who became vegan on a whim and are still paying for it
> today with their health. Thinking salad with Bacos is vegan and you can live
> on tha with vitiamin supplements is wrong. A vegan diet is a very serious
> thing, you should know what you are doing when you go on it and should ease
> into it gradually. i have seen to many people hurt themselves with their own
> ignorance. Even a vegitarian diet can be harmful if done wrong. DOn't stop
> eating meat and just eat beams and junk food and such, not eating meat
> reducs protein and to replace that you need to compensate with extra amounts
> of protein rich veggies.
>
> As far as Veganism being more compasionate and better on the planet I am not
> sold on that 100%. Man-kind is a plague on this planet and every planet/land
> we touch and will touch. As our nature we destroy all we touch, mankind that
> is. I think industrial pollution is a bigger problem than agricultural
> polution. Granted land use with crops as opposed to cattle is more
> efficient, but farmers will still farm with hormones and chemicals and until
> we as a world farm 100% organic the problem is still there.
>
> Do i have an answer to these problems? Nope. Nor do i claim to. I just want
> to point out a few mis-conceptons of this current ultra-PC attitude that
> especially American society has.
>
> One major step that would help however is population control. That brings up
> a whole bunch of personal freedom issues though. the answer is is to have
> people realize that not everyone needs 2.5 kids. How to do that is another
> question.
>
> -
> chris.stepanek / sr.designer / nny / [e-mail] / ICQ25163388
> -
>

- --

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"when i even shot Fisherman in the sky,
 only music will live,
  so music is the staff of life,"
              Lee 'S' Perry, Maritime Hall (SF) 1996
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