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(mobility) moby in van
(mobility) thanks matos
(mobility) Coffee and Cars
(mobility) ACK!
Re: (mobility) questions re:discography. please help
(mobility) hotmail
Re: (mobility) Coffee and Cars
(mobility) nice to meet you
RE: (mobility) nice to meet you
(mobility) you might want to see this
Re: (mobility) hotmail
(mobility) Re: mobility-digest V1 #400

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Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 14:48:55 -0700
From: danny legare <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) moby in van

hey fellow humans-
anyone in the vancouver area planning to go to the listening party?
am i the only one?

Danny

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Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 14:49:16 -0700 (PDT)
From: christian <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) thanks matos

thanks for the interview!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

plur-christian

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Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 16:50:29 -0600 (MDT)
From: Kitty Watermelon <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Coffee and Cars

    I just wanted to comment on something Jayson ? said about Moby's
videos.   I haven't personally seen any of Moby's videos, and none of most
other ones, either.  But taking what I've heard to heart, I can understand
completely why Moby would say "Great coffee" even if he had once said
"coffee is poison."  I'm not sure that it's very fair to question his
integrity when a video is involved.  I understand Moby is a seasoned
professional by now, but even he is controlled to some extent by his
record company, and thus by the producers of his videos.  So it's quite
possible that he was told to say it for a specific image.  Another
possibility is that he merely wanted to confuse people.  If I were famous,
and I knew people got so picky about details, I'd have a field day.  I
think it's the same thing with the car; mainly the producer/director
wanted him to drive a car.
    Now I'm not trying to say nit-picking is wrong; I do it a lot.
And it starts some great discussions...but I was slightly bothered by the
implication that every action, public or private, is under scrutiny and is
cause for being called a "hypocrite," or infered to be one.  It's been
said before, and I hate to be redundant, but people do not live their
lives wondering how they will be percieved, and you should focus on that
rather than on whether they've placed themselves in the spotlight.  I want
to sing.  Badly.  And I have no problem if people talk smack about me.
But to some extent there should be an understanding.  He's human, first
off...he'll do some very human things.  And second off, you can only ever
*at most!* see half of what's going on.
    I'm sorry if this seems aimed at anyone, Jayson, or others.  I
just wanted to add some commentary on the subject.  I mean no offense, I
really love listening to you guys.  ^_^  Alright.  There's my two bits.
                        pickle
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Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 16:52:27 -0600 (MDT)
From: Kitty Watermelon <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) ACK!

    I'm so so sorry I meant Seizure Robotz I should've checked but
it's not important, who mentioned it has no relevance.  Sorry Jayson!
^_^;;;;  mis quote.  ^^;
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Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 16:09:56 PDT
From: "Steve Giles" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) questions re:discography. please help

Christian wrote:

>1)and this is most confusing to me. i purchased animal
>rights last night.... are any of the different songs on the us
>version "electronica"(hate that word) or more rock
>like the uk cd. i see that alone is on there-and
>that's a great song!!

The US version has 1 exclusive song, "Anima", and the rest is a combo of the
UK AR & LI. It has all the rock songs from AR UK except "My Love Will Never
Die", a favorite of mine.

>2)has little idiot ever been released as a single cd?

No.

>3)anybody know why animal sight on uk version on teoe
>and reject on u.s.?

My guess is that it made the CD a lot longer in length, but I really don't
know...

>4)dumb one here-but is help me to believe from
>mindstorm the same version as the moby album.

As I understand, the releases are the same but for the name. There is a
Brainstorm on R&S (located in Belgium, I think) that caused a conflict in
using the Brainstorm name in Europe.

>5)was there really only one version of the vc
>demons/horses release? mine does'nt seem to be that
>long.

Yep, just one.

>6).... and now i'm on the mad
>hunt for underwater. anybody want to sell one?:)

It was never released apart from being the bonus disc for EIW. It's now very
difficult to locate. Good luck.

>    d-no buttons to push

This is about 1:20 in length, a funky bassline, a cool Jimi Hendrix sample.
A neat novelty.

>    e-hymn(upriver)(hymn is a personal fave)

Very drummy mix, reminds me of Morning Dove a little, "we be jammin" sample.
Try to get the UK 12" w/ Upriver, Dirty Hypo (my fave Hymn), This Is My
Dream, and Laurent's Wake Up. Cool picture sleeve.

>    f-sim1(this in particular-becasue i have the higher
>      12"-is it worth purchasing the cd for this song)

Haven't listened to this in a while, but as I recall it has this weird aqua
sample that I swear is sampled from Orb's Pomme Fritz...

>    g-frog

Quiet, simple ambient song. EOE Voodoo Child.

>    j-u1 he fu

A faster, harder Blue Light Of The Underwater Sun. More evil.

>    m-mad love

This is built on a Chaka Khan sample. I found this record in a catalog once,
but the store didn't have it anymore by the time I contacted them. Lost
forever? Maybe.

Keep replying to this one, folks, let's get this man some better answers.
Those were half-assed and off the top of my head, I'll try to do them more
justice later.

- -S



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Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 17:15:15 PDT
From: "Android M" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) hotmail

>From: "Steve Giles" <[e-mail]>

>Unfortunately, I was typing it out in hotmail, which timed
>me out of my email box right after I finished but before I could send. So
>it
>was all lost.

You may already know about this, so my apologies if I state the obvious, but
this problem with Hotmail that you mention has happened to me many times as
well.  Here's what I've learned to do when a time out occurs.
- --push 'back' on the browser
- --select all the text
- --Edit 'copy'
- --dial up/log on again
- --Hotmail 'compose'
- --Edit 'paste' in the message window

like I said you may already know this but it certainly has spared me many a
headache so...there it is. :)

- --Andrew


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Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 17:16:43 PDT
From: "Mollie Edgar" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Coffee and Cars

good words:)
mollie

>From: Kitty Watermelon <[e-mail]>
>Reply-To: [e-mail]
>To: [e-mail]
>Subject: (mobility) Coffee and Cars
>Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 16:50:29 -0600 (MDT)
>
>    I just wanted to comment on something Jayson ? said about Moby's
>videos.   I haven't personally seen any of Moby's videos, and none of most
>other ones, either.  But taking what I've heard to heart, I can understand
>completely why Moby would say "Great coffee" even if he had once said
>"coffee is poison."  I'm not sure that it's very fair to question his
>integrity when a video is involved.  I understand Moby is a seasoned
>professional by now, but even he is controlled to some extent by his
>record company, and thus by the producers of his videos.  So it's quite
>possible that he was told to say it for a specific image.  Another
>possibility is that he merely wanted to confuse people.  If I were famous,
>and I knew people got so picky about details, I'd have a field day.  I
>think it's the same thing with the car; mainly the producer/director
>wanted him to drive a car.
>    Now I'm not trying to say nit-picking is wrong; I do it a lot.
>And it starts some great discussions...but I was slightly bothered by the
>implication that every action, public or private, is under scrutiny and is
>cause for being called a "hypocrite," or infered to be one.  It's been
>said before, and I hate to be redundant, but people do not live their
>lives wondering how they will be percieved, and you should focus on that
>rather than on whether they've placed themselves in the spotlight.  I want
>to sing.  Badly.  And I have no problem if people talk smack about me.
>But to some extent there should be an understanding.  He's human, first
>off...he'll do some very human things.  And second off, you can only ever
>*at most!* see half of what's going on.
>    I'm sorry if this seems aimed at anyone, Jayson, or others.  I
>just wanted to add some commentary on the subject.  I mean no offense, I
>really love listening to you guys.  ^_^  Alright.  There's my two bits.
>                        pickle
>                [e-mail]
>         "If you let your spirit out, where would it go?"
>
>
>


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Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 17:49:13 PDT
From: "Mollie Edgar" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) nice to meet you

I am sad to report that as of yet, I have no moby collection.  I simply saw
the Run on video the other night on 120 minutes and fell in love with it.  I
recorded it and watch it all the time.  The very next day on a routine trip
to Streetside Records (our local music store) I found a flyer for Moby's new
release: Play (due for us US folk in June:()  Anyway, I am interested in
learning more about him and want to know if there is a specific cd anyone
would recommend for a beginning listener.  Any info about me?  I'm sixteen
(a youngen) and my music selection is a wide variety.  It can go from Dave
Matthew Band to the Clash.  My favorites I guess are the Clash, Beastie
Boys, and Bjork.  I also like elektronica stuff from Fat Boy Slim.  I don't
know I'm not really picky with music, which is why I want to learn more
about Moby.  I'm not sure where this email is going but if it is going to
lots of people, nice to meet you all.
mollie


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Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 20:52:59 -0400
From: "Eric M. Goldberg" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (mobility) nice to meet you

> Anyway, I am interested in
> learning more about him and want to know if there is a specific cd anyone
> would recommend for a beginning listener.  Any info about me?

Well, I personally would recommend his "MOBY" album..
or for a more modern one, "Everything Is Wrong".
Those two should hold you til June 1.. I really recommend
getting PLAY when its out.


hope that helps,

Eric
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http://www.mp3.com/tonematrix

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Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 22:56:21 -0700
From: "K Bergstrom" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) you might want to see this

LEAFS WON! WE'RE GOING TO THE FINAL FOUR! YESSSSSSSS!!!!

*ahem*

this showed up on the orbital list.
for those of you who don't suscribe to that list as well, i thought i'd
pass this along.
its going to be a good party.  im going to go, cuz i missed it last year.=
=20
no moby, but it will be good anyway.

- -kelley

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> From: Aim=E9e Couture <[e-mail]>
> To: orbital <[e-mail]>
> Subject: (orbital) world electronic music festival.. july 16-18
> Date: Monday, May 17, 1999 7:31 PM
>=20
>=20
> hey.. will any of you guys be coming up for this wicked event?
> this year it's being held at sauble beach (220km from toronto) from jul=
y
> 16-18
> it's gonna be a wicked party
> the lineup is....
>=20
> destiny stage:
> jon the dentist (uk), hris liberator (uk), mark eg (uk), mark tyler (uk=
),
> shane morris (uk), commander tom (germany), andy trex (germany),
christopher
> lawrence (us), scott stubbs (us), dave trance (us), xotec (us), flex
(us),
> vapourspace (live pa--us), the alliance (live pa--toronto), eryk s (liv=
e
> pa--toronto), os/2 (toronto), a/c (toronto), dr trance (toronto), citru=
s
> (toronto), mark scrife (toronto), android & mifodiy (toronto), alex d
> (toronto), hartec (guelph), dekoze (toronto), gary grant (toronto), sea=
n
> miller (toronto), mc destin-101 (toronto)
>=20
> dose tent:
> dubtribe live (us), john kelley (us), daeman (us), eric davenport (us),
> nigel richards (us), vitamin d (us), epo (us), dj melting man (london
> (ontario)), stretch & hooker (toronto), tim patrick (toronto), peter &
> tyrone (toronto), myka (toronto), d-monic (toronto), rich bailey
(toronto),
> deeno (guelph), big league chu (toronto), blake (toronto), marty mcfly
> (toronto), jason justin (toronto)
>=20
> speed stage:
> andrew weatherfill (uk), silicon valley (live pa), daz quayle (us), mik=
e
> shannon (kitchener), vortex (toronto), algorhythm (toronto), adam
marshall
> (toronto), daja vu (toronto), robe nice (toronto), the bedouin (toronto=
),
> aris (toronto), solis (toronto), blotto (toronto), brian falling
(toronto),
> lazy ray (toronto), tyler kerr (toronto), michael marcus (toronto)
>=20
> hullabaloo tent:
> vinylgroover (uk), druid (uk), m-zone (uk), madam zu (uk), mc magika
(uk),
> mc stixman (us), anabolic frolic (toronto), dominik (toronto), euphonic
> (toronto), frisky (toronto), grimace (niagara falls), SOS (toronto), br=
ad
d
> (toronto), d-minus (toronto), brano (toronto), elixir (toronto), thc
> (toronto), viper (toronto), dj x (toronto), nofrills (guelph), spice
> (toronto), smithy (hamilton), subsonic chronic (toronto), mc jd
(toronto),
> mc e-by-gum (toronto)
>=20
> syrous/renegades/next junction tent:
> mickey finn (uk), ray keith (uk), brockie (uk), mc det (uk), mc gq (uk)=
,
> mystical influence (toronto), sniper (toronto), freaky flow (toronto),
> capital j & spinz (toronto), unknown souljah (toronto), tommy illfingas
> (toronto), slip & slide (toronto), dripp (toronto), don renks (toronto)=
,
> ruckus (toronto), lush (toronto), ra (toronto), medicine muffin
(toronto),
> everfresh (toronto), stealth (toronto), super red (toronto), marcus
> (toronto), mc trigger (toronto), mc jd (toronto), mc bandit (toronto), =
mc
> flipside (toronto), mc l natural (toronto), mc delirious d (toronto)
>=20
> paradox/moonshadow collective tent:
> psychopod (live pa--denmark), frank e (denmark), eon ion (denmark), tim
> schuldt (germany), avatar (israel), asia 2001 (france), stevens (us),
> illusion (us), catalyst *us), india dro (us), severyn (us), ranka (us),
kala
> nag (us), smiling budha (toronto), cyber g (toronto), yohimge (toronto)=
,
> mitch sunrise (toronto), dog star (toronto), tangent (toronto)
>=20
> ~plur~
> aim=E9e
> http://shush.com/aimee (now updated for may)
> http://www.baked.net/orbitalinfo
>=20
>=20
>=20
> # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
> # Send the command "info orbital" to [e-mail].
> # To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original
sender.
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Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 19:49:43 PDT
From: "Steve Giles" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) hotmail

I know, I wasn't being careful. I had wordpad open and had the 6 paragraph
intro and the first q&a saved, but I didn't save after that. Should've just
wrote it there. Anyways, thanks.

- -Steve

>From: "Android M" <[e-mail]>
>Reply-To: [e-mail]
>To: [e-mail]
>Subject: (mobility) hotmail
>Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 17:15:15 PDT
>
>>From: "Steve Giles" <[e-mail]>
>
>>Unfortunately, I was typing it out in hotmail, which timed
>>me out of my email box right after I finished but before I could send. So
>>it
>>was all lost.
>
>You may already know about this, so my apologies if I state the obvious,
>but
>this problem with Hotmail that you mention has happened to me many times as
>well.  Here's what I've learned to do when a time out occurs.
>--push 'back' on the browser
>--select all the text
>--Edit 'copy'
>--dial up/log on again
>--Hotmail 'compose'
>--Edit 'paste' in the message window
>
>like I said you may already know this but it certainly has spared me many a
>headache so...there it is. :)
>
>--Andrew
>
>
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Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 20:18:31 PDT
From: "Android M" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Re: mobility-digest V1 #400

>From: christian <[e-mail]>

>1)are any of the different songs on the us
>version "electronica"(hate that word) or more rock
>like the uk cd. i see that alone is on there-and
>that's a great song!!

Hey Christian.  I believe that the US version is simply a reordering of the
same songs.  It combines LI and AR UK.  If I'm wrong then I'll have to run
out and buy the US version!


>2)has little idiot ever been released as a single cd?

Not that I'm aware of.  According to other list members that I've talked to,
LI is a little harder to come by these days.

>5)was there really only one version of the vc
>demons/horses release? mine does'nt seem to be that
>long.

Do you have the CD or the 12"?  I've got the 12" and it's pretty damn long.
I think each song is 15 min. or something.

>6)i remember when everything is wrong came out-i saw
>the underwater version. but already had the us regular
>version and the underwater version was like $30 or
>something. so is there anyway to get that cd? and
>again-has it(like little idiot) ever been released as
>it's own single cd. and if so-why have'nt they been?
>little idiot is beautiful!! and now i'm on the mad
>hunt for underwater. anybody want to sell one?:)

Like LI, this one is quite elusive.  I'm kicking myself for not buying it
when it came out.  I think MOBY should put out a double CD w/some of his
instrumental ambient stuff.  Repackaged, etc.  with all the hard to come by
material.

>7)here's a kind of long list of moby songs that i
>have'nt heard.

>    d-no buttons to push

This one was on the Voodoo Child Remixes 12" I believe (my vinyl is in a
Public Storage unit, 30 min. away...).  It's really short, only a minute
long. I believe the sample is Jimi Hendrix saying 'No Buttons to Push' while
a slower hip hop beat grooves along.

>    f-sim1(this in particular-becasue i have the higher
>      12"-is it worth purchasing the cd for this song)

Sim1: This is a 14 minute song.  I like it a lot.  Trancey and ethereal for
lack of a better description.  Minimalistic, subtle changes (echoed
keyboards fading in & out, etc.)

OK, some answers to a few of your questions, but I don't claim to be a MOBY
expert.  Hope it helps.

- --Andrew



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