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mobility-digest          Friday, May 14 1999          Volume 01 : Number 395



Re: (mobility) 'sell out'
Re: (mobility) Moby's itinerary
Re: (mobility) 'sell out'
Re: (mobility) FW: (orbital) orbital/crystal meth tour (fwd)
Re: (mobility) Moby's itinerary
(mobility) re: this sell out issue
(mobility) Off-topic: United DJ's of America Volume 9
Re: (mobility) Moby's itinerary
(mobility) [Fwd: Fwd: psychedelicpimpdaddyland]
Re: (mobility) buying moby stuff on eBay
(mobility) japan...selling out...
Re: (mobility) japan...selling out...
Re: (mobility) Sunday and Insomnia

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Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 16:31:23 -0500 (CDT)
From: theShackofXaq <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) 'sell out'

On Thu, 13 May 1999, Moby wrote:

> 'that's when i reach for my chihuaha'

that's when i reach for coca-cola.

?

[xaq]
"i think a lot, but it never helps me, so i stop.
                    but i really enjoy thinking."
                      Masafumi Sanai-photographer

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Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 18:42:00 -0500
From: Philip Johnson <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby's itinerary

umm...Moby is going to be at the Freakfest '99 show in New Orleans the
29th of May.  Not sure what time he will be performing, but it will be
after 9:00 pm.  Even Moby can't be at two places at once...PJ808

Daniel Cerman wrote:

> Moby's itinerary, as I understand it (not 100% confirmed):
>
>   May 21    Seattle - Aerospace club
>   ~22:00    personal appearance (meet & greet, autographs...)
>
>   May 23    San Francisco - Skylark bar
>   ~22:00    personal appearance (meet & greet, autographs...)
>
>   May 28    Denver - Club Synergy
>             DJing (probably a midnight to 02:00 set)
>
>   May 29    Baltimore - WHFS event in Baltimore Memorial Stadium
>   15:30     DJing in the Trancemissions tent
>   ~21:30    appearance on the main stage (unconfirmed)
>
>   May 30    Minneapolis - Zone radio gig
>             headlining in dance tent (DJing)
>
>   May 31    Hartford - WMRQ radio festival
>   16:30     performing with full band
>
>   June 2    New York City - Virgin Megastore in Union Sqaure
>   22:00     live performance
>             followed by an after-party somewhere else
>
> Thanks to Gregg at MCT for this info.
>
> Daniel Cerman
> http://www.moby.org/

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Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 19:51:33 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) 'sell out'

In a message dated 99-05-13 14:35:31 EDT, MOBY wrote:

<< one could make a compelling argument that whenever a musician
 provides his/her services in exchange for money that it's a sell out. >>

<<i personally prefer to enjoy the music that i enjoy regardless of
whether there's a possible taint of 'sell out' attached to it. >>

<<but they still made(and make) wonderful,
passionate music.
the marriage of art and commerce is always a strange thing.  but thank
goodness that it exists or else we wouldn't have so much music to listen
to.>>

Thank you for your personal response, Moby!  You did make some great comments
that are not only thought-provoking, but credible because of your history and
experience in the music industry...we all have been putting this "thread"
into one specific stereotype without realizing what the artist-at-hand is
really trying to accomplish....could be money, could be fame, could be
supporting his $500/day ice cream habbit...but I'd like to agree with Moby
here when he states that without the "marriage" of music and business, we all
wouldn't be here talking about it and all the wonderful music it has to
offer....Thanks again Moby from all of us at the Mobility mailing list!!!
Later....

- -Fil

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Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 19:57:51 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) FW: (orbital) orbital/crystal meth tour (fwd)

In a message dated 99-05-12 16:16:46 EDT, (Chris Kloehr) wrote:

<<  The three-week, 18-city tour, which goes by the name Community Service,
 > kicks off July 4 in Chicago and ends July 24 in Long Beach, Calif.  >>

This sounds so kick ass!!!  but I went looking through all the Chicago papers
and haven't heard a word about it!  are you sure you have the dates right?
where did you hear about it?!?  TELL ME TELL ME TELL ME!!!!  : )  if you
already know the time and place of the Chicago show, then that would be kewl
too...thanks alot!  later....

- -Fil

P.S.-anybody in the Chicago area (or around the place) who would be
interested in going to this or whenever Moby comes to play Chicago, let me
know...have a little Mobility get-together.....

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Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 18:18:35 -0600
From: Daniel Cerman <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby's itinerary

Philip Johnson wrote:
> umm...Moby is going to be at the Freakfest '99 show in New Orleans the
> 29th of May.  Not sure what time he will be performing, but it will be
> after 9:00 pm.  Even Moby can't be at two places at once...PJ808

I heard that the New Orleans show was either postponed or canceled.

Visit http://www.moby.org/news.html for the latest info on Moby's
live appearances.

Daniel Cerman
http://www.moby.org/

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Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 17:30:14 -0700 (PDT)
From: christian <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) re: this sell out issue

i have been sitting back listening-but now i have to
speak. does anybody remember(and i tried to find a
magazine but there all packed away)back around the
time of eiw when moby was being interviewed a lot-he
was constantly asked about being famous and signing
with a major label and selling out and blah blah
blah...
and his answer was-i recall-something to the effect
of-he wanted to sell a lot of records. and he wanted
to be famous. and he wanted people to know who he was.
and if being on a major label is what it would take
then so be it.
also-if NO-ONE made any money from music...you would
have very little opportunity to hear music. record
labels major and indie are not necessarally a good
thing...BUT! the do pay for most artists to
record(which in turn puts the artists in debt-but
still)they do pay to have the music distributed-they
do promote the artists(sometimes)and somewhere along
the line someone(be it the label-or management or
promoter)is paying to get these artists out on the
road so we can go see them and the artists can make
MORE MONEY! admitedly-a lot of artists get screwed and
a lot of the label execs(and all the other schmuks
involved)are just out for the money. but keeping it
real does not mean being poor. and even a totally
indie artist(ani difranco for example-or fugazi) to
continue being indie-have to make some money to
support themselves,there family and there music! and
in the end if they make money-they have to deal with
all the financial shit that a record label(major or
indie) would be helping them out with. the only
difference is that these totally independent artists
enjoy a bigger PROFIT margin from there music sales.
so in the end-is'nt it just the music that matters?
good music is good music!

plur-christian

ANNE!! this is totally un-mobility list related(sorry
but i'm having some email problems and really want to
get in touch with someone i miss terribly!! and i
think shes getting my list postings still.)ANNE!! i am
at work right now unpatiently awaiting your next
email. stomach clenched for fear i may NEVER hear from
you again! i'll be hear until 10:00-send me something.



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Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 19:51:02 -0600
From: Chris <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Off-topic: United DJ's of America Volume 9

sorry for the off-topic post, but i have a question to ask if someone can
help me out.  does anyone here have United DJ's of America Volume 9 mixed by
Mark Farina?  i recently bought the album and about 1:36 into track 8, the
sound drops totally out for about 2 seconds.  is this a glitch with my album
or was it a messup in the recording of the album and all discs are like
that?  please help.


Chris Perkins        It's nice to be important,
[e-mail]        but it's more important to be nice.

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Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 21:40:02 -0500
From: Philip Johnson <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby's itinerary

Let me get in touch with the Freebass Society of NO and see...
Keep ya posted..PJ808

Daniel Cerman wrote:

> Philip Johnson wrote:
> > umm...Moby is going to be at the Freakfest '99 show in New Orleans the
> > 29th of May.  Not sure what time he will be performing, but it will be
> > after 9:00 pm.  Even Moby can't be at two places at once...PJ808
>
> I heard that the New Orleans show was either postponed or canceled.
>
> Visit http://www.moby.org/news.html for the latest info on Moby's
> live appearances.
>
> Daniel Cerman
> http://www.moby.org/

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Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 21:42:46 -0500
From: Philip Johnson <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) [Fwd: Fwd: psychedelicpimpdaddyland]

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thanks for all the compliments......sorry about the delay on the freakfest
info.........we were having some problems with the venue.......we promise to
make this years party a lot cheesier then last years......


many beats and peace always,
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the fb society presents....

freakfest...psychedelic pimp-daddy land '99
(where's my wimmins')

state palace theater
1108 canal st
new orleans, la
504.840.4112

<A HREF="http://www.flyfm.net">www.flyfm.net</A>
<A HREF="http://www.freebass.net">www.freebass.net</A>

saturday may 29th
(memorial day weekend)

live pa's(pimp action)
- -2 live crew(miami)
- -egyptian lover(la)
- -rob base & dj e-z rock(ny)
- -uberzone presents: the digital mix- a multi-platform dj set using
turntables, a computer and other digital gizmos for a hybrid of mixing
skills(city of angels; la)
- -bassbin twins( belgian breaks/skint/ sothern fried records; belgium)

dj's
- -moby....a dj performance(ny)
- -dj dan(funky tekno tribe/moonshine; sf)
- -tommie sunshine(xylophone jones/electro sun; atlanta)
- -stryfe(fb society/ nola)
- -db(shades of technology cd release/higher education/f-111 records/breakbeat
science; ny)
- -ak1200(artistic records/moonshine music/ orlando)
- -dj ani(formerly of deee lite/ zoo york, nyc)
- -danny tha wildchild( canvas records/strength recordings; chicago)
- -187(jungle sky; philly)
- -twist-1(texas hardcorps/626 soul; austin)
- -clint mansell(composer of the PI soundtrack; pop will eat itself)
- -the all time high experience w/ dr. lovestar & mr paradise(superstars of
love)
- -knuggs(protoculture; baton rouge)
- -batenda(french fried records; baton rouge)
- -indieo(pyramids; new orleans)
- -starbaby(fbs; new orleans)
- -zach(fbs; new orleans)
- -oktane(fbs; new orleans)
- -cease(fbs; new orleans)
- -madd(fbs; new orleans)

movovum(underwater sea monkey eaters) special sunrise set on the deck
also
 open mike kerioke machine for all you bedroom mc's
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quotes from last years freakfest
bad boy bill>>>"best party in 1998"
dj mishja>>>>>"i've never been to a party like this in the states"
frankie bones>"this is just like it was back in '91"
disco>>>>>>>>>"my cheeks rubbed together so much my butt was on fire"
- ----------------------------------------------------


fb society rave rhetoric checklist
- ------------------------------
"keeping it real"                     yes
"supporting local scene"        yes
"remebering our roots"        yes
"keeping it underground"        oh yes yes yes

doors open @ 9 pm(please proceed directly to the bathroom and shove a WHOLE
roll of toilet paper in the bowl)

bitch slappin
3-d laser show by laser spectalces of san marcos, tx(free glasses will be
given away at the door)3-d show runs form 9pm- 12am

visuals that love you long time by bionic dots(nyc)

tickets  $25 b4 may 8
          $30 by may 29
              $35 day of
available at all ticketmaster outlets and at the door the day of the show
($5 off if you can prove your from another planet)


and now we are going to trivialize our scene by explaining to you what it is
all about in 20 words or less,,,,blah,blah, blah, blah,blah,blah,blah, blah,
blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah,blah, blah, blah,
plur to your momma...disco and dan

upcoming fb society events
- --sat may 1...mushroom jazz tour w/ mark farina(sf/chi), kevin yost
- --wed may 5...dj andy smith of portishead @ the house of blues
- --sunday may 9.. PLANET V >>>BBQ>>>>w/bryan gee(uk) and jumping jack
frost(uk)  ...starts at 3pm
- -sat july 3 ..the dj is the devil....bad boy bill(chi), lenny dee(ny), rob
gee(ny), delta 9(chi), dj tron(chi) plus many many many and another many more
- -sat july 31...caffeine afro-sheen....frankie bones(ny), micro(ny),
icey(fla), john debo(boston), james christian(ny), x-dream(ny) plus more
- --sat aug 28.....oh no,,,,not another SUMMER FEVER, i just got the stains out
of my pants from the last one w/ donald glaude(seattle), terry
mullan(chicago), scott henry(dc), charles feelgood(baltimore), dara(ny) plus
more

fb weeklies
SUN......every sunday bbq on the deck @ state palace starts @ 3pm( enter at
117 1/2 rampart st)
dr lizard's love lounge presents TIGHT.....every thursday this summer
starting june 9th





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Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 21:46:30 -0500 (CDT)
From: Chris Bourke <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) buying moby stuff on eBay

> I've just become a member of eBay.
> I have some questions:
> - eBay now has my ccard info, can I now bid on things?

You don't need to give your card info to bid on items, only to sell them.
But yes, you can now bid on items.

> - Does eBay automattically charge me and pay the seller?

No, you have to contact the seller once you win a bid, usually they
request that you send check or mainly money order, then they send to the
item trhough the mail.

> - Is eBay a kind of mediator between me and the seller?

sort of, they provide limited protection against fraud and such, but they
are not a big mediator

> - Has anybody got any useful tips?

dunno, experience is always better.

Chris Bourke

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Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 19:47:23 PDT
From: "Android M" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) japan...selling out...

> > (thanxgod i'm not japan american :) (U.S. don't be angry)),

normally, my feathers don't get ruffled over miscommunication but I do feel
somewhat compelled to question this remark.  did you mean japanese OR
american? japanese american?  american living in japan?  maybe you can
clarify that one bud... :)

in any event...AJ are you japanese?  or 'gaikokujin'? my girlfriend & I read
your last post...are you in the Miyagi prefecture?  when I was there I went
to a ton of record shops in Tokyo looking for japanese Moby (& other bands')
releases but, no luck. it was pretty much a lot of pop: Pizzicato Five,
Cardigans, etc. where do you buy your records...online?

RE: selling out

it was cool to get the big guy's response to this.(has he responded much in
the past?) about an hour ago, I saw a commercial which had the acid sounds
of Roland's TB-303 squelching away over a dance beat followed by a woman's
voice...'maybe it's maybeline'.  c'mon folks, you can't single out any one
particular techno artist and label them a sell out.  the whole genre in
general has pulled it's pants down and bent over.  same with rock and every
other type.  and the few artists who haven't are either starving or very,
very lucky. I think moby's been lucky to be able to dabble in different
styles which people actually view as a strength.

Christian, did you go to dubtribe? is sunset still happening these days?


- --andrew


np: Negativland/Chumbawumba 'The ABC's of Anarchism'



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Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 20:11:56 -0700 (PDT)
From: christian <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) japan...selling out...

>
> Christian, did you go to dubtribe? is sunset still
> happening these days?

hey andrew-great to heer from you. about the use of
elctronica in commercials-i've actually heard some
really good music in commercials as of late-kinda
wierd actually. and yes-dubtribe was incredible!!!
beautiful and positive!! there are actually quite a
lot of sunset parties around. especially this time of
year and on into the summer. many of them are
free-usually on sundays near the berkeley marina or
richmond/san rafeal bridge for some reason. dubtribe
is playing there annual bastile day party on july
14th-outdoors with lots of friends-gonna be sweet!

sorry about that people! but i do have a moby
question. i have been emailing a lot of want lists
lately(if your looking for hard to find stuff-try uk
based want lists-i have better luck with them)and i
was wondering if there was ever any barracuda 12"
releases. or any strange rare moby releases at all-ya
know-like white labels and such. i know i could look
on any of several discographies-but i wanted to hear
what you fine fols had to say!!

anne!! i'm still missing you terribly!! i hope you are
well.

plur-christian
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Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 01:51:07 -0600
From: Daniel Redmond <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Sunday and Insomnia

Did you also notice that the Rollo & Sister Bliss mix of Honey has
similar keyboard riffs with "God is a DJ?"
I'm thinking it might be some kind of signature...or something...

daniel
its late and i'm tired, and it wouldn't have been a problem if it weren't
for that bomb threat this morning at school...

>Robert Taylor wrote:
>>Does anyone notice a striking similarity in the keyboard riff chord
>>progression of "Sunday" and that of Faithless "Insomnia"?
>


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