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mobility-digest         Monday, April 26 1999         Volume 01 : Number 376



(mobility) early stuff
Re: (mobility) early stuff
Re: (mobility) Lopez vs. Cake
Re: (mobility) Interview gossip.......
Re: (mobility) Lopez V DJ Cake
Re: (mobility) Interview gossip.......
Re: (mobility) Interview gossip.......
Re: (mobility) feeling so real
Re: (mobility) feeling so real
Re: (mobility) Interview gossip.......
Re: (mobility) Interview gossip.......
Re: (mobility) Gossip/Play?
Re: (mobility) Interview gossip.......
Re: (mobility) Interview gossip.......
Re: (mobility) Interview gossip.......
(mobility) AR/My Love WND/ Face It
Re[2]: (mobility) 1000 LIVE!

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Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 16:29:20 +0100
From: "Geoffrey Sproule" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) early stuff

did anyone else see the teletext interview with moby on c4 he says he is =
releasing a 82 - 89 collection of un issued and rare stuff

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Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 11:56:20 -0500
From: "Robert Taylor" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) early stuff

Wow. This looks like an awesome release. I really hope this is true.
Has anyone else heard about this 82-89 collection. Maybe we can
hear "The New Wave Moby".

- -----Original Message-----
From: Geoffrey Sproule <[e-mail]>
To: Moby (mobility) List <[e-mail]>
Date: Sunday, April 25, 1999 10:27 AM
Subject: (mobility) early stuff


>did anyone else see the teletext interview with moby on c4 he says he is =
>releasing a 82 - 89 collection of un issued and rare stuff
>
>
>

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Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 18:19:45 +0100 (GMT Daylight Time)
From: Tim Beecher <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Lopez vs. Cake

Yeah, thanks for that. I like the sound of Lopez more.

Cheers,

TMB

On Fri, 23 Apr 1999 11:26:37 PDT Michael Matos
<[e-mail]> wrote:

> The Lopez stuff sounds more like hard underground house, where the
> Cake single has more of a garage flavor. Hope that helps.
>
> Matos
>
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Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 18:57:58 +0100 (GMT Daylight Time)
From: Tim Beecher <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Interview gossip.......

> Matos
>
> PS: I interviewed Moby yesterday. We talked for about 35 minutes, and
> it went well, though I didn't prepare any questions in advance. Oh
> well. He's pretty interesting--he's done 250 interviews in five
> weeks, and he's got his lines down pat. More details later.
>
Speaking of interviews. Moby did one for this week's 'Boyz'
- - London's trashy, free gay paper. He's finally come out
and said he's bisexual. He had some interesting things to
say about his beliefs and relationships. I forgot to ask my
friend to lend me the paper - so I could remember exactly
what he said.

I can't wait to hear the album - officially released
tomorrow over here!

TMB


- ----------------------
Tim Beecher
Cranfield University
[e-mail]

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Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 19:00:53 +0100 (GMT Daylight Time)
From: Tim Beecher <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Lopez V DJ Cake

Thanks for the info.

TMB

On Fri, 23 Apr 1999 21:46:46 +0200 Van Eijck <[e-mail]>
wrote:

> Tim Beecher wrote:
> >Diverging slightly from Moby's guitar based stuff to his
> >music under his pseudonyms. How would you compare DJ Cake
> >stuff to Lopez? Still, haven't got round to hearing any
> >yet! Would anyone say Lopez is better than DJ Cake or is it
> >possible to even compare?
>
>
> Dj Cake and Lopez IMO basically make the same kind of music:
> It is repetitive techno, (think of older Voodoo Child songs..)
> with lots of (vocal) samples and other weird sounds.
> It is difficult to compare them because (as far as I know) Dj Cake
> only released one single (Sugar Baby) and that sounds a lot
> like the Lopez kind of music...
>
> >By the way Bart, where did you say you got your Lopez/DJ
> >Cake stuff from again? I think you may have mentioned this
> >before - didn't register though.
>
>
> I got my Lopez CDs and the Dj Cake CD at my local record store.
> They can order directly from almost any record company (also Mute)
> without postage costs etc. So I have the singles at their normal price.
>
> THE place to get your Lopez singles on the Internet is:
> http://www.ab-cd.com   Just type MOBY in the "quick search" window
> and you'll get a list of all records they have from Moby and all his alter
> ego's.   I don't know if the Dj Cake single is among them though...
>
> Bart
>
>

- ----------------------
Tim Beecher
Cranfield University
[e-mail]

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Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 13:16:24 -0500
From: Electronic Pulse Info <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Interview gossip.......

HI,

Moby said he's bisexual?  I would like to hear what he has to say about
that seeing that he says thanks to christ on just about everything he
releases...and seeing that the church doesn't care for homo/bi-sexuality.

>He's finally come out and said he's bisexual.

Not that I care, I just would like to hear what he has to say about it.

Cheers!
Bri
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http://www.electronicpulse.com

Streaming electronica, 24 hours a day, 7 days a week!
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Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 19:40:23 +0100 (GMT Daylight Time)
From: Tim Beecher <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Interview gossip.......

Well Bri,

I do remember him saying in the interview that he despised
much of conventional Christianity practised by many who
claim to be 'Christians'. He said that Christ never
condemned gay people to hell, but preached the message of
love, understanding and forgiveness, rather than bigotry
and blindness. He said if mainstream Christianity became
less right-wing he might go back to church.

In any case there are several churches who go by a pro-gay
stance - though obviously in the minority. I also know of
several rapidly growing 'ministries' that are at least
accepting gay people though they still go by the old
testament teaching that homosexuality is wrong. However,
they believe intimacy between the same sex is good, as long
as it doesn't lead to sexual relations.

Tim.

On Sun, 25 Apr 1999 13:16:24 -0500 Electronic Pulse Info
<[e-mail]> wrote:

> HI,
>
> Moby said he's bisexual?  I would like to hear what he has to say about
> that seeing that he says thanks to christ on just about everything he
> releases...and seeing that the church doesn't care for homo/bi-sexuality.
>
> >He's finally come out and said he's bisexual.
>
> Not that I care, I just would like to hear what he has to say about it.
>
> Cheers!
> Bri
> --
> http://www.electronicpulse.com
>
> Streaming electronica, 24 hours a day, 7 days a week!
> --
>
>
>

- ----------------------
Tim Beecher
Cranfield University
[e-mail]

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Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 16:45:40 -0400 (EDT)
From: Freak <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) feeling so real

OOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I totally understand now!!!!!!!!!
Funny thing is, i have the FSR single with the sample and I didn't think
to go back and listen to it before I asked the list. That definately
clears everything up for me.......
thanks a bunch,
danielle

On Sat, 24 Apr 1999, Daniel Cerman wrote:

> Freak wrote:
> > I don't mean to drag this out...but when i hear it, I hear "sound system
> > rockin" but some of you have said it sounds like "sound system rockin'
> > massive"...which sounds like too many words to me...this is when email
> > gets to be a pain in the ass....Cuz I can't hear someone sing it to me =]
> > Can it be explained?
>
> OK.  At the beginning of FSR, the Jamaican-sounding guy says:
>
>   sound system rockin'!
>   sound system rockin'!
>   sound system rockin'!
>   sound system rockin'!
>   sound system rockin'!
>   sound system rockin'!
>   sound system rockin'!
>   set it up, DJ!
>
> If you listen closely, you can just hear the Jamaican-sounding guy
> start to say "massive" after "rockin'", but it's quickly faded out,
> so it's more like "SOUND SYSTEM ROCKIN' ma-" over and over.  He
> never actually says "massive" in the song.
>
> So why did I and a bunch of other people say "sound system rockin'
> massive"?  Simple.  Because at 4:00 in the EYTM remix parts, which
> are included on the FSR single, you can hear the full stand-alone
> sample, in which he guy (Kochie Banton?) exclaims "sound system
> rockin' massive!"  About 20 seconds later, he says "set it up, DJ!"
>
> Somehow, the EYTM remix part from the FSR single must've gotten
> into our heads, so that's what I heard when I recalled how FSR
> went, without actually listening to it.  For some reason I thought
> the Main Mix had the full sample in it, but it doesn't.
>
> Ergh.  Sorry.  Hope this clears things up.  :)
>
> Daniel Cerman
> http://www.moby.org/
> NP:  Moby, "Feeling So Real (Ecstatic)"
>
>

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Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 20:44:18 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) feeling so real

now THAT is some funny stuff!

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Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 04:50:15 -0600
From: "Mike" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Interview gossip.......

> >He's finally come out and said he's bisexual

Any guesses as to why he waited so long with this issue?
Moby has generally seemed to be very open in regards
to his beliefs, why would he keep this undercover
where he's been so open with an issue that generally
doesn't go over well in many subcultures (christ) or an
issue like animal rights, which can be just as divisive as
sexuality to the general populace?

Or, is it just a feeling he has that he has never acted on?



- ---------------------------------------------
If you know the truth
down for the fight
then in your heart
you'll be marked for life

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Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 12:23:53 +0100 (GMT Daylight Time)
From: Tim Beecher <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Interview gossip.......

He said that there was always some sort of chemistry going
on with both sexes as he was growing up at various times in
his life. He was quite happy sticking to the opposite sex,
but it was only in the last 5 years that he found himself,
quote 'making out with some guy' after partaking in a
threesome, fivesome or whatever. He's open to that, but is
not forcing feelings in any particular direction. I will
have to see the article again to get more accurate
information on this.

Maybe it's the first time he's done an interview with a gay
paper and he felt that it was appropriate to talk about his
sexuality? The questions he was asked were all about his
beliefs and relationships, as well as his music. Maybe
there was no need for him to talk about his sexuality until
this interview? Je ne sais pas.

TMB

On Mon, 26 Apr 1999 04:50:15 -0600 Mike
<[e-mail]> wrote:

> > >He's finally come out and said he's bisexual
>
> Any guesses as to why he waited so long with this issue?
> Moby has generally seemed to be very open in regards
> to his beliefs, why would he keep this undercover
> where he's been so open with an issue that generally
> doesn't go over well in many subcultures (christ) or an
> issue like animal rights, which can be just as divisive as
> sexuality to the general populace?
>
> Or, is it just a feeling he has that he has never acted on?
>
>
>
> ---------------------------------------------
> If you know the truth
> down for the fight
> then in your heart
> you'll be marked for life
>
>
>
>

- ----------------------
Tim Beecher
Cranfield University
[e-mail]

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Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 13:32:18 +0200
From: "Van Eijck" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Gossip/Play?

==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==---==--==--==
Tim Beecher wrote:
>Speaking of interviews. Moby did one for this week's 'Boyz'
>- London's trashy, free gay paper. He's finally come out
>and said he's bisexual. He had some interesting things to
>say about his beliefs and relationships. I forgot to ask my
>friend to lend me the paper - so I could remember exactly
>what he said.


I have an interview in which Moby says that he gets turned on
by dead people... (of course this is a joke!)

>I can't wait to hear the album - officially released
>tomorrow over here!


What happened to the official release date of May the 17th!!
You live in the UK, right? Hmm, then it shouldn't be too difficult
for me to order Play from there.
Or are you talking about Run On? (rel. date: 04-26-'99)

Bart

==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==
Tip of the day:
Faithless - Bring my family back (Blue Bottle edit)

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Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 13:29:26 MET
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) Interview gossip.......

> Any guesses as to why he waited so long with this issue?
> Moby has generally seemed to be very open in regards
> to his beliefs, why would he keep this undercover
> where he's been so open with an issue that generally
> doesn't go over well in many subcultures (christ) or an
> issue like animal rights, which can be just as divisive as
> sexuality to the general populace?

i think, that the question of sexual orientation is a very private one,
so it is somehow different from the other "divisive" declarations. and
it seems to be a "none of your busines" question, unlike when speaking
about animal rights, environment or even christianity, (which is also a
private one, but not that much, i think).
i've had the feeling, moby might be gay, for a long time ago, it stems
from his appearance and opinions, he seemed to me like a kind of too
much sensitive and open to be straight. i feel very happy, that moby has
come out, i like him some more now, (if it is possible to like him more:) )
But these are just my opinions about the qusetion of sexuality, it is probable,
(if not even sure), that moby had different reasons for keeping it a secret
until now.
i'm so happy, happy, happy. isn't this mr.hall a fabuolous person?

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                              **

(is it possible to convert the interview from the (i don't remember the name
"boyz" ? not sure aboutthat) magazine (magayzine) to a text file, i can't
imagine myself asking a shopkeeper if he has one, here in europe. thanx4all in
advance. MY LOVE TO ALL OF YOU. I`M SO HAPPY.)

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Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 07:36:22 -0400
From: Jonathan Ruano <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Interview gossip.......

On Mon, Apr 26, 1999 at 01:29:26PM +0100, [e-mail] wrote:

> > Any guesses as to why he waited so long with this issue?
> > Moby has generally seemed to be very open in regards
> > to his beliefs, why would he keep this undercover
> > where he's been so open with an issue that generally
> > doesn't go over well in many subcultures (christ) or an
> > issue like animal rights, which can be just as divisive as
> > sexuality to the general populace?
>
> i think, that the question of sexual orientation is a very private one,
> so it is somehow different from the other "divisive" declarations. and
> it seems to be a "none of your busines" question, unlike when speaking
> about animal rights, environment or even christianity, (which is also a
> private one, but not that much, i think).
I dont really care about what he (non-injuring to other people) does to
get fun... mainly because I'm not fond of him :)

Anyway, as for I've read in the list, he's had esporadically several
gay experiences, which doesnt make him gay. You should differentiate
between gay behaviour and homosexualism (or bisexualism).

> i've had the feeling, moby might be gay, for a long time ago, it stems
> from his appearance and opinions, he seemed to me like a kind of too
> much sensitive and open to be straight.
I hope there are sensitive and open men outta there that are straight.

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Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 09:20:00 -0500 (CDT)
From: theShackofXaq <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Interview gossip.......

On Mon, 26 Apr 1999 [e-mail] wrote:
> i've had the feeling, moby might be gay, for a long time ago, it stems
> from his appearance and opinions, he seemed to me like a kind of too
> much sensitive and open to be straight. i feel very happy, that moby has

i'm sure you ment well, but it's pretty offensive to say (for people of
both sexual prefrences) that being gay means being open and sensitive.
shouldn't everyone be sensitive? if i'm sensitive (and what does this
mean, really...) do i have to like having sex with other men? if i share
my deepest fears and strongest joy with my girlfriend, do i have to dump
her for a guy? "it seems from his appearance..." what does a gay (or
in this case bi) person look like?
once again, i think you ment well, but that's all the more reason to
check your words.

> (is it possible to convert the interview from the (i don't remember the name
> "boyz" ? not sure aboutthat) magazine (magayzine) to a text file, i can't
> imagine myself asking a shopkeeper if he has one, here in europe. thanx4all in
> advance. MY LOVE TO ALL OF YOU. I`M SO HAPPY.)

if you're so "happy" for moby, why can't you ask for the magazine that
he's in? are you afraid that the shopkeeper will think you're gay? if so,
doesn't this negate all your previous statments?

sorry if this all seems a bit picky. it's early and i haven't had my
coffee yet.

[xaq]
"i think a lot, but it never helps me, so i stop.
                    but i really enjoy thinking."
                      Masafumi Sanai-photographer

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Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 11:37:54 -0700
From: [e-mail]
Subject: (mobility) AR/My Love WND/ Face It


     NOt only that song, but FACE IT is a really great song. I love how
     MOBY just jams on the guitar for about 5 minutes at the end of that
     song. ROCK ON MOBY!

     Say, anyone heard FACE IT live?? He didn't play it the two times I saw
     him.

     - Jayson


______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________
Subject: (mobility) Re: btw : my love will never die
Author:  [e-mail] at INTERNET
Date:    04/23/1999 3:32 PM


>      BTW - Who really likes the song "My Love Will Never Die" off of the
>      import/2cd or AR? I think it rocks.

i do. i really do. i like AR whole from bottom to top, but "my love will
never die" is one of the best. (i can't arrange them to a chart, because
i like them AAALLLLLL. yeah. they really rock!

kohut.



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Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 11:31:16 -0700
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re[2]: (mobility) 1000 LIVE!



     The deal is this. If you don't TURN IT UP (like it is live) then you
     can't appreciate the power. When Moby does it live, you FEEL the base
     & energy moving your body. Moby plays it LOUD. PLUS, heck, by the time
     he plays it, you are "IN THE ZONE" if you know what I mean.

     - Jayson


______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________
Subject: Re: (mobility) 1000
Author:  [e-mail] at INTERNET
Date:    04/23/1999 3:21 AM


HI,

You know, I had the same experience w/ 1000.  First time I heard it, I
thought it to be a pointless track.  See it live, though, totally changed
my mind as well.

>What was he trying to say?

Not speaking for the person who originally wrote the letter, but for me,
seeing the song live just showed the raw power - and emotion - of the song.
 It's an energy release...showing that ppl can do what ever they so
choose...making the most out of life...AND enjoying the moment.

That's just my take on it.

Cheers!
Brian

PS- We got a promo for Run On today, white lbl. 12".  Does anyone have any
info on mixes for the song?


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Streaming electronica, 24 hours a day, 7 days a week!
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