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mobility-digest        Saturday, April 24 1999        Volume 01 : Number 375



Re: (mobility) Lopez V DJ Cake
(mobility) Thousand (and why it is fundamental)
(mobility) 1000
(mobility) 1k Live
(mobility) Re: mobility-digest V1 #373
Re: (mobility) also about patton ...
Re: (mobility) feeling so real
Re: (mobility) art n stuff
Re: (mobility) Thousand (and why it is fundamental)
Re: (mobility) Thousand (and why it is fundamental)
Re: (mobility) feeling so real
(mobility) Moby News.
Re: (mobility) feeling so real
Re: (mobility) feeling so real
(mobility) Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 22:12:47 PDT

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Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 21:46:46 +0200
From: "Van Eijck" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Lopez V DJ Cake

Tim Beecher wrote:
>Diverging slightly from Moby's guitar based stuff to his
>music under his pseudonyms. How would you compare DJ Cake
>stuff to Lopez? Still, haven't got round to hearing any
>yet! Would anyone say Lopez is better than DJ Cake or is it
>possible to even compare?


Dj Cake and Lopez IMO basically make the same kind of music:
It is repetitive techno, (think of older Voodoo Child songs..)
with lots of (vocal) samples and other weird sounds.
It is difficult to compare them because (as far as I know) Dj Cake
only released one single (Sugar Baby) and that sounds a lot
like the Lopez kind of music...

>By the way Bart, where did you say you got your Lopez/DJ
>Cake stuff from again? I think you may have mentioned this
>before - didn't register though.


I got my Lopez CDs and the Dj Cake CD at my local record store.
They can order directly from almost any record company (also Mute)
without postage costs etc. So I have the singles at their normal price.

THE place to get your Lopez singles on the Internet is:
http://www.ab-cd.com   Just type MOBY in the "quick search" window
and you'll get a list of all records they have from Moby and all his alter
ego's.   I don't know if the Dj Cake single is among them though...

Bart

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Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 15:52:31 -0600
From: "krwilson" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Thousand (and why it is fundamental)

Thousand was the song that laid the concrete foundation of my faith in the
mobster.  If you're gonna make music,  why limit yourself in any way?  I
know tons of people who go through this process when listening to electonic
music:

1- What is the release date?  If it's from last year, I don't wanna hear
it.  If it's from before last year, I won't even touch the cd case.  (or
12" or whatever)

2- What BPM is the song at?  I only listen to house music, which should be
at 140, so if it's not 140-don't waste my time.  Also, I don't listen to
ALL house music, just deep house and some techno house and a little garage,
so DON'T try to get me to listen to Ghetto house!

3- Where's the big bass drop?  and the fading-in drum roll to announce the
VERY generic break?  I don't hear any WAY over-used DJ mixer effects,
what's wrong?

AND FINALLY, they reach  the only fork in the road, path A or B.

A- Who wrote this?  If they aren't Fatboy slum, The Crystal Meatheads, or
the Chemical brassiers, then it better be the Prodigy! (sorry, no funny
name for the prodigy, i couldn't think of one)

OR-

B- Who wrote this?  If it's anyone I've ever heard of even once, it must be
some sold-out commercial crap!  If it's not on a white label with
absolutely no markings, it sucks!  'Cause it's gotta be Undergound!

Therefore, I love to see someone who does it all.  Big-ass props to MOBY!
He's the only truly open-minded musician I've ever heard except my other
hero= MIKE PATTON.  Did you know MIKE PATTON wasn't just the extremely
talented front man of FAITH NO MORE and MR. BUNGLE? He also has two(that i
know of) solo efforts.  ONE is a bunch of recordings he made with a
microphone and 4-track in hotels across the world, and the other is- A
SYMPHONY!  What a guy.

MO

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Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 22:18:55 +0200
From: "Johan Jaatinen" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) 1000

As an old Moby fan, I must agree with what other people has said about
Thousand.

Thousand is one of the most energetic, orgasmic, dark, powerful, technoey,
hard, fantastic techno tracks in existence.

Turn off the lights, turn the volume of the stereo up to the max, put it on
and let it go...

Johan.

PS. What's happening with Thanks 2?

_________________________________________________________________________
Johan Jaatinen                                         [e-mail]
Gothenburg, Sweden                                   [e-mail]

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Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 15:14:39 PDT
From: "Steve Giles" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) 1k Live

     When I saw Moby perform at the House Of Blues (Chicago) in
December 97 he played Thousand last. It was the same version that is
on Rare & Next Is The E, no special live touches, just playback. Moby
had some intense colored strobes and lights going to it, and he
climbed up onto his keyboard in the center of the stage, wearing no
shirt, and crouched down there. As the beat sped up, he ever so slowly
stood up, stretching his arms out as he stood. He finished in the
crucifixion pose. It reminded me of a butterfly hatching,
metaphorically. I can't remember if he did this once or twice, as the
song cycle would suggest. Not important anyways. He seemed to be
soaking up input through each of his senses.

     It was intense.

     Afterwards, when the lights came back on, a group of college
students who had been leaning against the bar commented that Moby has
a "god complex" and that it was pretentious and ridiculous. I
reflexively disagreed mentally, but I could see where their point of
view was coming from. What do you think of Moby's Thousand / butterfly
thing?

     Personally I think that Moby was just demonstrating some sort of
musical enjoyment meditation, a demonstration of his capacity to
immerse himself totally in sound. He had dedicated a song earlier in
the show to everybody who had ever danced the whole night away, and
suggested that those who haven't should try to lose themselves in the
music now.

- -Steve

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Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 18:52:04 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: (mobility) Re: mobility-digest V1 #373

In a message dated 4/22/99 2:55:44 PM,
[e-mail] writes:

<<: Re[2]: (mobility) when my moby come back>>

in the beginning of "Felling So Real" it says "Sound Systems Rocking" or
that's waht at least I get out of it.

- -SUN

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Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 21:39:25 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) also about patton ...

he is also the from man to his new band

FANTOMAS

there releasing there first cd this summer ... so far all they've done is
play a lot of gigs in the san fran area ...

i have been told there great ... they love to play with your head with the
beat ... like get it really aggressive and then get real mellow ... i guess
you could take
marry go bye bye -from disco volante for an example ...

thank god theres other people that know of patton and his many works .

- - QGGO

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Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 22:14:42 -0400 (EDT)
From: Freak <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) feeling so real

I don't mean to drag this out...but when i hear it, I hear "sound system
rockin" but some of you have said it sounds like "sound system rockin'
massive"...which sounds like too many words to me...this is when email
gets to be a pain in the ass....Cuz I can't hear someone sing it to me =]
Can it be explained?
or will I never know and continually sing the wrong thing?!!
Must...get...ahold...of....myself
ok..that's all for now
have a good weekend all,
danielle

On Fri, 23 Apr 1999 [e-mail] wrote:

> for jgmagnus:
>
> i think in the intro to feeling so real, moby says:
>
> soundsystem rockin'
>
> i wouldn't bet my left eye for that, but it's just another opinion.
>
> kohut.
>
>
>

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Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 01:11:56 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) art n stuff

hey jon-i checked out your artwork-i particularly enjoyed "the big wave of
color "and "pointing in the right direction"--i couldnt check out "throwing
the kisses away", but ilike the title  oh yeah i also like the ones with the
birds
shep

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Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 18:37:41 +0300 (EET DST)
From: Heidi Gronman <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Thousand (and why it is fundamental)

On Fri, 23 Apr 1999, krwilson wrote:
...
> 1- What is the release date?  If it's from last year, I don't wanna hear
> 2- What BPM is the song at?  I only listen to house music, which should be
> 3- Where's the big bass drop?  and the fading-in drum roll to announce the
> AND FINALLY, they reach  the only fork in the road, path A or B.
> A- Who wrote this?  If they aren't Fatboy slum, The Crystal Meatheads, or
> OR-
> B- Who wrote this?  If it's anyone I've ever heard of even once, it must be
>
> MO
very edited version of MO's message, i assume you read the real one.
Funny, i even didn't know about all those rules&orders you might make up.
Could that be TRUE? Are some listeners really like that? Please explain me
how on earth it can be possible? In fact those people must live in whole
different planet, in some oneway system, or what?
I really mean that i don't understand. So if there is someone who can
explain to me, what is the point limiting yourself that way, please
say something. i would like to know. Does it make life easier?
Of course if one concentrates his energy just to one or few things he gets
more out of them, since time is somewhat limited, and you can't
concentrate on everything. But still...How can someone think that some
things are righter and truer than others? For everyone? I have my truths
and i'm always very delighted to meet someone who shares at least parts of
them, but i really can't understand how could i say that mine are the only
reasonable ones. So :) i'm not saying that it's stupid to follow those
rules MO wrote down, nor i'm saying what you could do to live a better
life and be a optimate mobylistener...Well, if there is lots of
recordbuyers who think music should always and only be this or that way
made, moby will never be a worldfamous popstar. of course not, isn't he
even now,say, famous
technohardcorepunkrock'n'rollpolkadottambiententertainmentclassicaldiscostar?
with all my ten,
heidi, eskimoanarchist. BEHAVE YOURSELF, NOW.

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Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 18:37:41 +0300 (EET DST)
From: Heidi Gronman <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Thousand (and why it is fundamental)

On Fri, 23 Apr 1999, krwilson wrote:
...
> 1- What is the release date?  If it's from last year, I don't wanna hear
> 2- What BPM is the song at?  I only listen to house music, which should be
> 3- Where's the big bass drop?  and the fading-in drum roll to announce the
> AND FINALLY, they reach  the only fork in the road, path A or B.
> A- Who wrote this?  If they aren't Fatboy slum, The Crystal Meatheads, or
> OR-
> B- Who wrote this?  If it's anyone I've ever heard of even once, it must be
>
> MO
very edited version of MO's message, i assume you read the real one.
Funny, i even didn't know about all those rules&orders you might make up.
Could that be TRUE? Are some listeners really like that? Please explain me
how on earth it can be possible? In fact those people must live in whole
different planet, in some oneway system, or what?
I really mean that i don't understand. So if there is someone who can
explain to me, what is the point limiting yourself that way, please
say something. i would like to know. Does it make life easier?
Of course if one concentrates his energy just to one or few things he gets
more out of them, since time is somewhat limited, and you can't
concentrate on everything. But still...How can someone think that some
things are righter and truer than others? For everyone? I have my truths
and i'm always very delighted to meet someone who shares at least parts of
them, but i really can't understand how could i say that mine are the only
reasonable ones. So :) i'm not saying that it's stupid to follow those
rules MO wrote down, nor i'm saying what you could do to live a better
life and be a optimate mobylistener...Well, if there is lots of
recordbuyers who think music should always and only be this or that way
made, moby will never be a worldfamous popstar. of course not, isn't he
even now,say, famous
technohardcorepunkrock'n'rollpolkadottambiententertainmentclassicaldiscostar?
with all my ten,
heidi, eskimoanarchist. BEHAVE YOURSELF, NOW.

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Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 10:02:08 -0600
From: Daniel Cerman <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) feeling so real

Freak wrote:
> I don't mean to drag this out...but when i hear it, I hear "sound system
> rockin" but some of you have said it sounds like "sound system rockin'
> massive"...which sounds like too many words to me...this is when email
> gets to be a pain in the ass....Cuz I can't hear someone sing it to me =]
> Can it be explained?

OK.  At the beginning of FSR, the Jamaican-sounding guy says:

  sound system rockin'!
  sound system rockin'!
  sound system rockin'!
  sound system rockin'!
  sound system rockin'!
  sound system rockin'!
  sound system rockin'!
  set it up, DJ!

If you listen closely, you can just hear the Jamaican-sounding guy
start to say "massive" after "rockin'", but it's quickly faded out,
so it's more like "SOUND SYSTEM ROCKIN' ma-" over and over.  He
never actually says "massive" in the song.

So why did I and a bunch of other people say "sound system rockin'
massive"?  Simple.  Because at 4:00 in the EYTM remix parts, which
are included on the FSR single, you can hear the full stand-alone
sample, in which he guy (Kochie Banton?) exclaims "sound system
rockin' massive!"  About 20 seconds later, he says "set it up, DJ!"

Somehow, the EYTM remix part from the FSR single must've gotten
into our heads, so that's what I heard when I recalled how FSR
went, without actually listening to it.  For some reason I thought
the Main Mix had the full sample in it, but it doesn't.

Ergh.  Sorry.  Hope this clears things up.  :)

Daniel Cerman
http://www.moby.org/
NP:  Moby, "Feeling So Real (Ecstatic)"

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Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 12:56:23 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: (mobility) Moby News.

Hi Everyone.

Here's some Moby news I found on the net.

Martin.

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- -----------------------------------------------------


Moby Gets Playful, Muses Over Remix Album, Eyes
Prince

By the time Moby -- born Richard Melville Hall --
recorded his major-label debut album, the
emotionally stirring Everything Is Wrong, released
in 1995 (after five years of independent releases),
he had become something of an icon on the
underground electronic scene, thanks to the hit
single "Go" and his remixing prowess. Thus it was no
surprise Moby quickly became ubiquitous: whether it
was having his music appear in the Al Pacino/Robert
DeNiro vehicle Heat or producing Ozzy Osbourne's
"Walk on Water" track, Moby was everywhere.

However, just as soon as he had cemented his
reputation for electronica, he capriciously steered
away from it -- his follow-up effort, the more
rock-flavored Animal Rights, met with much
resistance upon its 1997 release. Moby quickly
stemmed the tide with the playfully titled I Like to
Score collection, a compilation of his work that had
appeared in films, then disappeared from the public
eye for all of 1998.

It's not as if he didn't have offers for work during
that time. "I turned down Guns N' Roses, I turned
down Hole," he says. And that was just production
work. But in his mind, he says, "I'm not a
producer."

Why did he turn down these high- profile projects, as
well as a request to remix a track for Ace of Base
and a seeming once- in- a- lifetime invitation to
remix any song he wanted from Elton John's catalog?
He responds, "I only think about outside stuff when
I'm not thinking about my own things. I had to say
no to everything to stay focused." And for the last
year he's been spending his time completing Play,
his first release for V2 records, due June 1.

Certainly more dance- oriented than Animal Rights,
but again far from a straight electronic album, Play
celebrates Moby's eclecticism by blending his
electronic background with elements of gospel and
vocals sampled from early blues tracks.

"Now that it's done, I'm happy with it," he says of
the new disc. "I'm not thinking about anything else.
I'm just thinking about promoting the record [Moby
is one of the few artists who claims to like doing
interviews], then after seeing if people like it,
I'll be going on tour."

When he does return to remixing, it will be with his
own material, rather than somebody else's. "Maybe a
year from now I'll put out a remix album, where it's
all the songs from the album remixed," he says. And
after that he's still not done drawing from his own
well. Having written what he guesses to be 200 songs
for this CD, he promises fans can also expect a
collection of B-sides from the singles to be
compiled for another Moby disc.

While he will be busy with his own stuff for quite
some time, he admits he has not completely closed
off the idea of working with other artists. But he
does say it would have to be an offer he "couldn't
refuse." And that would be? "I'd love to do a punk
rock song with Prince."

                                 - Steve Baltin

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Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 12:23:02 -0500 (CDT)
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) feeling so real

You know what is funny?  My girlfriend is CONVINCED that Kochie is NOT saying
"Set it up DJ!" but rather "Snap into a SLim Jim!"  She is insane and I have
tried to tell her otherwise.  The very sad thing is, is that she has also
convinced other people that the "Slim Jim" phrase is really what's being said!
Sheesh!

andy

gingerbread man

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Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 12:07:12 PDT
From: "Michael Matos" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) feeling so real

Daniel Cerman wrote:

>If you listen closely, you can just hear the Jamaican-sounding guy
>start to say "massive" after "rockin'", but it's quickly faded out,
>so it's more like "SOUND SYSTEM ROCKIN' ma-" over and over.  He
>never actually says "massive" in the song.

Or, more to the point, the "ma-" blends into the next iteration of
the word "sound"--meaning that if you're familiar with Jamaican sound-
system terminology the "massive" is easy to figure out.

Matos

PS: I interviewed Moby yesterday. We talked for about 35 minutes, and
it went well, though I didn't prepare any questions in advance. Oh
well. He's pretty interesting--he's done 250 interviews in five
weeks, and he's got his lines down pat. More details later.

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Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 23:13:20 -0600
From: "Android M" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 22:12:47 PDT

for info on 'Better Living Through Circuitry' which features MOBY...

http://www.technofilm.com

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