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mobility-digest       Sunday, November 22 1998       Volume 01 : Number 270



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(mobility) Honey, appearances, school, people, and so on.
Re: (mobility) The men and women behind the masks
(mobility) Re:  no date?
(mobility) Re:  my big mouth
Re: (mobility) Honey, appearances, school, people, and so on.
Re: (mobility) Honey, appearances, school, people, and so on.
(mobility) Re:  my big mouth
Re: (mobility) The men and women behind the masks
(mobility) Judging book covers, again.
Re: (mobility) Judging book covers, again.
RE: (mobility) this oatmeal gettin lumpy
(mobility) appearances, school, people,(not necessarily in that order)

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Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1998 10:35:45 -0500
From: Ade <[e-mail]>
Subject: [none]

So clay, I hear ya on thinking you look like something then seeing yourself
and thinking that that's not what you look like.  I had to film a skit for
a class yesterday and when I watched it I was thinking to myself, "who the
hell is that ugly lookin' kid with the big nose and gap teeth and stupid
grin?"  But then less than an hour later I see my reflection in a mirror
and I'm sayin', "who is that sexy cat?  Hell, I'd date him if I was really
bi."  And you're right to point out the fact that mirror images are in fact
flipped around and that makes a difference, 'cause much of our perception
of beauty comes from symetries and proportions and such.  If those get
flipped around then we can get a slight misrepresentation of what we look
like.

What do I look like really?  20 yrs. old, 5'10", 170 lbs., brown eyes,
short hair if not shaved, brown skinned,

- --Ade.

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Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1998 10:55:40 -0500
From: Ade <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Honey, appearances, school, people, and so on.

I got the Honey single in yesterday and I agree that Memory Gospel is one
great track.  It reminds me of Grace with femal vocals.  Does anyone know
for sure what she's saying?  It sounds like "heaven," but sometimes it's
not very distinct.  Maybe she's not saying anything at all.   "Micronesia"
is pretty good too, and "Honey" is catchy, although I'm not really sure I
like that the same vocals are repeated over and over the whole song.

Um, I sent my last post prematurely.  Here's the rest of what I was going
to say:

What do I look like really?  20 yrs. old, 5'10", 170 lbs., brown eyes,
short hair if not shaved, and brown skinned.  I guess if someone is really
starving for a picture I can post one, but I don't think I really have any
good ones scanned.  I'm not much into clothes--usually a t-shirt and shorts
in the summer, t-shirt and jeans or khakis in spring and fall, sweatshirts
and jeans or khakis in the winter.  I did play sports for a while--7
seasons of rugby.  And they tell me I get good grades in school.

Speaking of school, I wasn't home schooled, but am glad nonetheless.  I
think there's a lot to say for the other parts of schooling besides
education.  I learnt a lot about people and formed friendships that I
wouldn't have found otherwise.  Knowledge is power, but there's all sorts
of knowledge.

I was thinking the other day that I'm glad we do get off topic all the
time.  It would seem somewhat overly fanatic if I was reading every day
about that works of one person, and writing about it all the time.  Most
Christians don't even do that about Jesus Christ himself.  (It might be the
same with Buddhists and Muslims and others with their respective dieties,
but I don't know enough that well).  And I like getting to know people's
thoughts and beliefs on things other than if "Honey" is a great track or
not.  As much as I love music, a lot of times it doesn't mean shit next to
learning about people.

OK, that's about it I think.

np: Moby, "Honey"


- --Ade.

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Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1998 10:59:28 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) The men and women behind the masks

In a message dated 11/21/98 7:41:43 AM Central Standard Time,
[e-mail] writes:

<< I
 get the feeling that most of you didn't or don't play sports, didn't get
great
 grades in school, >>

not true. i played varsity football for three years so far, wrestled varsity
for two, and ran track for two. i also have a 4.0 gpa, so as you can see
there's a lot of different kind of people on this list. i'm 6'1" 170lbs, short
brown hair and green eyes. i am what people call a true jock. but i do have
friends in other groups, like the smart kids, the "freaks"(for a lack of a
better word), the jocks, and the drama people and such. thats what i got to
say.
until next time
andrew

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Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1998 20:17:51 +0000
From: clay <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Re:  no date?

ade>
i'm sure i saw a photo of you on your web-site some time ago.....and ade
you know what i'd date you too as you ain't that ugly and only if i were
gay or bi.
but then again you're not but a year older than my daughter
so.......hmmm....

have a fun day
and stay so very ade!


clay

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Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1998 20:26:15 +0000
From: clay <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Re:  my big mouth

i'm just realizing that my reply to ADE went over the list

ooops

just hope you all know
that i'm not anti anything except ignorance, hate, and
lack of sense of humor.


btw

i'm 5'7" in shoes dark hair on head and face
brown eyes
something between a so cal version of van gogh
and a  young portugese brick-layer

and i wasn't shy at school


but i was wild.
it took four coaches
one on each arm and leg to take me and my mouth away
during one particular tiny
outburst.

and even the cheerleaders quietly applauded me
as i (sometimes) spoke for everyone.



clay

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Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1998 11:40:41 -0700
From: "eciR leahciM" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Honey, appearances, school, people, and so on.

Well, I finally found Honey too, so I no longer have to feel left out while
you guys discuss it.  I really don't have anything to add to what's been
said about it, other than the songs are all very good and really have me
excited about his new cd.  I also found a copy of the 12", with the rollo &
sister bliss mixes, but unfortunately my turntable is at home...can't listen
to it till Christmas break.  Of course, in my opinion, Honey is sorta paled
by the other single I found...the hymn.alt.quiet.version.  Today was the
first time I ever heard it and I'm in love.

Um, since everyone else is sharing...I'm 5'11", 180, short brown hair which
I intend to shave once I find a suitable hat, in case I don't like my bare
head...brown eyes, and a goat.

I'll give you, you probably would not have talked to me in high school.  All
I ever wanted to do was argue and fight, otherwise I just pretty much
ignored people.  I was also the obnoxious kid that sat in the back of the
room and questioned everyword the teacher said, questioned everything anyone
else tried to add to a discussion and turned class discussions into
arguements...

In a note unrelated to Moby, if anyone is interested in punk music, DK, etc,
Alternative Tentacle Records is now online @
http://www.alternativetentacles.com I ordered some CD's from them, they were
very good and have a lot of stuff I couldn't find in local record stores...

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Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1998 20:04:25 +0000 (GMT)
From: Tim Beecher <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Honey, appearances, school, people, and so on.

> Speaking of school, I wasn't home schooled, but am glad nonetheless.  I
> think there's a lot to say for the other parts of schooling besides
> education.  I learnt a lot about people and formed friendships that I
> wouldn't have found otherwise.

I was thinking the same thing. However, I hated and loved
my time at school from 15 onwards, before that I despised
it, coz I was a recluse in my own little bubble and people
would come along and burst it all the time! I must say it
helped me learn a lot about others coz the world is around
us and whether it's good or bad, we can't hide from it. Got
to learn to deal with it. I'm still learning.

You mentioned rugby. I was forced to play rugby at school
and I just wasn't into team sports at all. I remember
getting the side of my head ripped open in a collapsed
scrum coz someone was wearing un-filed metal studs! I was
tall and skinny and would always get thrown about all over
the place so I didn't get much pleasure out of the game.
Great to watch the professionals, as long as I'm not
playing.

So what part of the world are you from? I get the
impression you're from the U.S. (for some reason!?) and
they don't tend to play rugby there, do they!?
>

>

TMB

- ----------------------
Tim Beecher
Cranfield University
[e-mail]

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Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1998 20:11:30 +0000 (GMT)
From: Tim Beecher <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Re:  my big mouth

On Sat, 21 Nov 1998 20:26:15 +0000 clay
<[e-mail]> wrote:

>
> btw
>
> i'm 5'7" in shoes dark hair on head and face
> brown eyes
> something between a so cal version of van gogh
> and a  young portugese brick-layer
>
> and i wasn't shy at school
>
>
> but i was wild.
> it took four coaches
> one on each arm and leg to take me and my mouth away
> during one particular tiny
> outburst.
>
> and even the cheerleaders quietly applauded me
> as i (sometimes) spoke for everyone.
>
>
>
> clay

I kind of imagined you like that actually - appearance and
temperament. By the way I thought the sound big mouths were
ace when they put the asshole big mouths in their place.

TMB
>

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Tim Beecher
Cranfield University
[e-mail]

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Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1998 16:44:12 -0500
From: "D Bergstrom" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) The men and women behind the masks

> Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1998 04:13:29 -0800
> From: Anthony Colorez <[e-mail]>
> Subject: Re: (mobility) The men and women behind the masks
>
> > What do I look like? (hmm...debating) I'm about 5'11', I weigh 180 (a
guess,
> > last I checked I was a skinny 165, but I've put on a couple recently) I
have
> > long hair, but the sides and back are shaved. Hair down to just past my
> > shoulderblades, brown eyes. Can't do much better than that via email.
>
> hey it's been quiet here today. I think only Steve and Clay
> told what they look like(?), so I'll go next. (If you don't care about
> what I look like, hit delete now!)
> I'm 21, short, I've got black hair but shave my head(usually), I wear
> glasses :( . I'm sort of a grooming fanatic. and work out a lot although
> I don't like to much. I'm not into wearing the "latest fashions"(like
> wearing plaid shirts simply because everyone else is), but I
> do really love clothes, and usually try to look my best because
> you never know when some adorable girl is cumming around the corner.
> Okay, that's it.
>

I guess I'll go next.  I do have some pictures of me scanned, but I'm lazy
and I only
scan once every few months, so the newest one is from august... whoops.
here's
a page of a few of my pictures if anyone lacks imagination:
http://www.fortunecity.com/roswell/avebury/9/hair.htm  :)
I'm sure everyone knows by now i'm 17/f, but
 I have jaw length brown hair that sometimes has orangish streaks on top.
I'm very
pale, which i guess is left over from the whole goth phase i went through a
while back.
Blue eyes and I wear glasses.  Right now I'm trying to find a pair of those
thick framed
"nerd" glasses but I can't find them :(  I'm short, only 5'4", but I'm
pretty damn proud of
that, because for the longest time i was only 5'3" but i finally grew an
inch!
I'm almost always wearing navy blue hooded sweatshirts and baggy ass jeans,
because
they're comfy and i don't feel the need to dress up for skool.  *shrugs* i
dunno what else
to say so i'll stop now! :P
>
> I got the Honey single today "Memory gospel" is awesome.
> Does anyone know who did the vocals on it?
> I keep getting this picture in my head of that big lady with the skunk
> hair from that dorky "touched by an angel" show tv show doing
> the vocals for it.   And I can't make it stop.

*shudder* my parents watch that show.  evil. i always have to go hide
upstairs in
my room when they watch it.  i dunno... it screams christian propaganda to
me, but
then i'm overly sensitive to stuff like that, due to the major harassment i
get a lot of the
time.  As much as I try to respect other people's right to religion, i
dislike how so many
people won't give me the same respect back when it comes to my lack of
religion.  and
it really bugs me when i'm constantly hearing how whatever i choose to
believe in now
is fine, but when i die and go to hell i'll find out i was wrong.  hmm...
i'll shut up about all
this now.

>
> Bye..
> - -Anthony
>
>
> p.s. to Ginger (or whoever brought this home-school thing up), I did the
> home study thing too.
> And I don't regret it(although I'm sure I missed out on a few fist
> fights).

I think it all traces back to me, and I'm still bitter over the fact that
my parents changed their
mind and made me go back to school this year.  i'll say it again, no child
of mine is EVER
going to be subjected to the torture i've been through.  and well, they're
also never going to
have to live in the suburbs like i do right now.  lofty goals, but well, i
think i'll be able to
manage it. that is, if i ever settle down and HAVE kids. whoops. i'm
babbling again. i'll
stop it. i promise.

- -Kelly

That's the difference between me and the rest of the world! Happiness isn't

good enough for me! I demand euphoria!  -Calvin and Hobbes

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Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1998 14:30:17 +0000 (GMT)
From: Tim Beecher <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Judging book covers, again.

I didn't do many sports, well not team sports. It was
sub-aqua, running/athletics, type thing, but then I got too
heavily into drink and the odd dose of drugs for a while
and all the healthy activities peetered out when I was
about 15. I think it might've had something to do with my
father's death, but c'est la vie! I'm noe more or
less over that and I'm doing a PhD now, so I must've done
something right!? I've made a few really good friends over
the years and I've come to realise that they, partners and
close family are the most important things in my life and I
wouldn't change it for anything mate.

So were you 'popular' at school because you were good at
sports and everything else, or what and what do you do now?
Only slightly interested.

TMB


On Sat, 21 Nov 1998 08:49:56 -0500 AJ Brustein
<[e-mail]> wrote:

> You know, I feel kind of bad about saying this, but I have a feeling that if I
> was to run into to one of you guys on the street or whatever, I would have
> absolutly nothing to say to you and probably forget about our meeting faster
> than I "forgot" to pay my last apartment's rent. I am kind of glad that I can
> talk or at least watch (since I have been in Japan, I havn't been able to post
> much) to sort of a different crowd. I  didn't have a clue that Steve Giles was
> whatever way he was and that kind of suprised me, but you know it makes me
> think that maybe i shouldd have spoke to the outcasts when I was in school. I
> get the feeling that most of you didn't or don't play sports, didn't get great
> grades in school, and kind of keep to yourselves. That is fine with me, but I
> just wanted to say that I am gld that I am on this list and can kind of
> communicate with some people who I normmally would not talk to because of we
> would have nothing to talk about. Anyway, I am not looking down on anyone, and
> I don't feel like I am in any posistion to do so, I just wanted to voice my
> opinion. Later.
> AJ
>

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Tim Beecher
Cranfield University
[e-mail]


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Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1998 23:37:59 -0500
From: AJ Brustein <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Judging book covers, again.

No I wan't popular because I did sports. In fact, a lot of people got angry at
me because I did sports. I should have played varsity soccer and lacrosse, but
because I was only playing to have fun and I hated the coaches of both teams,
I would only play JV. And, to tell you the truth, I don't know anyone who was
popular because they did sports, but I went to a private school for high
school, and I am sure it is different at a public school with 1500 kids. Since
my school only had 350 kids, you really can't be popular. But everyone knew me
and it was probably because of my attitude, my involvement, and my sense of
humor. And I got shit grades in 9th and 10th grade, and then I had a 4.5 GPA
in 12th and graduated 3rd in the class. And it was only last year, so it
wasn't long ago and I am doing nothing now but studing in Japan. I will go
back to America and college next fall. Anyway, there is your answer.
But the reason I did respond is because I wanted to comment on homeschooling.
At my school in 11th grade I met the only person I knew who had been
homeschooled. He had been homeschooled his whole life and now he came to high
school in 11th grade so he could get into a good college (I think). Now don't
get mad at me, but he couldn't seem to get along with people correctly and
ended up stealing my roomates watch, but instead of getting kicked out they
gave him pity because he was homeschooled. He didn't come back next year, so I
don't know what happened to him, but I have a feeling it was a failure. I know
little about homescholing, but how exactly do you go from homeschool to
college? And school is not only learning about "useless" stuff. Maybe that is
25 percent of it. I think you miss out on way too much by not going to school,
even if it is a horror. Anyway, I have to leave now. Later.
AJ

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Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1998 12:58:07 +0100
From: "Eagle" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (mobility) this oatmeal gettin lumpy

> >
> Yeah, Pete Tong, J.J. and occasionally Marrianne Hobbs and
> co. are pretty good too. There's a BBC world service, but I
> can't imagine any of radio 1's stuff being broadcast on it?
> I wonder, as I've never tuned into the world service. So
> they had audio archives on the internet? Pleading ignorance
> again.
>
> TMB
>
I know that John Peel had a weekly session on the World Service, but I'm not
sure if that is still the case.

Eagle,

NP _Meddle_ Pink Floyd

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Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1998 11:33:05 -0500
From: n <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) appearances, school, people,(not necessarily in that order)

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hey all, here's some words from a lurker...

> Speaking of school, I wasn't home schooled, but am glad nonetheless.  I
> think there's a lot to say for the other parts of schooling besides
> education.  I learnt a lot about people and formed friendships that I
> wouldn't have found otherwise.  Knowledge is power, but there's all sorts
> of knowledge.

I have to agree here.  I went to university for 3 years and learned lots
of silly things in class (i'm transferring to college).  HOWEVER, i
think i learned more in those three years about people and relationships
than would have been remotely possible if i had chosen to boycott
institutional education.  Going to school essentially made me the way i
am, and i like the way i am.  Plus i made some kickass friends that i
never would have met otherwise. :)

BTW, if anyone cares about what a lurker looks like...I'm 22, 5'7",
female, 115 lbs, black brown hair, brown eyes, um, people always think i
look a lot younger than i am, um, don't know what else to say.  k'bye.

        (n)

np: Plastikman, "Artifakts (BC)"
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hey all, here's some words from a lurker...

> Speaking of school, I wasn't home schooled, but am glad nonetheless.  I
> think there's a lot to say for the other parts of schooling besides
> education.  I learnt a lot about people and formed friendships that I
> wouldn't have found otherwise.  Knowledge is power, but there's all sorts
> of knowledge.

I have to agree here.  I went to university for 3 years and learned lots
of silly things in class (i'm transferring to college).  HOWEVER, i
think i learned more in those three years about people and relationships
than would have been remotely possible if i had chosen to boycott
institutional education.  Going to school essentially made me the way i
am, and i like the way i am.  Plus i made some kickass friends that i
never would have met otherwise. :)

BTW, if anyone cares about what a lurker looks like...I'm 22, 5'7",
female, 115 lbs, black brown hair, brown eyes, um, people always think i
look a lot younger than i am, um, don't know what else to say.  k'bye.

    (n)

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