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mobility-digest       Monday, September 14 1998       Volume 01 : Number 217



(mobility) I'm new here folks!
Re: (mobility) I'm new here folks!
Re: (mobility)
(mobility) 'micronesia' and 'memory gospel'
(mobility) Stash!
(mobility) finally honey
Re: (mobility) finally honey (& more NEW Moby mixes for another artist?!?)
Re: (mobility) finally honey (& more NEW Moby mixes for another artist?!?)
Re: (mobility) finally honey (& more NEW Moby mixes for another artist?!?)
Re: (mobility) collabs
Re: (mobility) finally honey (& more NEW Moby mixes for another artist?!?)
RE: (mobility) I'm new here folks!
(mobility) ok,ok
(mobility) ol skewl, new edjumakashun
(mobility) Ye fyne olde Moby traques
(mobility) Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 13:38:22 -0400
(mobility) Move

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Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 13:49:15 -0600
From: "krwilson" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) I'm new here folks!

I'm the new kid-don't beat me up!
I was told to kindly pass on some info about myself, so-------------------
1 My name is morgan wilson(my dads name is the e-mail adress)
2 I have survived 19 winters
3 I only have the basic Moby cds (no moby vinyl or rare stuff because I get
into all forms of audio delight and can't waste all my time, money,etc. on
one artist even if he is my favorite!)
4I first heard moby by taking a shot in the dark- I was reading hightimes
and they reviewed the *new* album "everything is wrong".  It wasn't too
flattering, but they made it sound interesting so I ordered
it.BOOM!!!!!!!!!- changed my whole life forever! I became a electronic
music enthusiast overnight, became a vegetarian and pacifist(for real!),
and started to make my own electronic music.  I'm sure lots of you have had
similar experiences because moby just seems to have that effect.
5 other music i like------ everyone (I know its hard to believe, but i can
identify with every artist who puts real feeling into their music.)
Examples that might make you sick and lose respect for me--
                                                             1 I like death
metal(entombed-old stuff only)
               2 i can dig on country(not the new popular garbage, the old
stuff-real country)
3 I love Plastikman and DJ Apollo even though people tell me they have no
soul etc.
4i really get into some punk(sicko, screeching weasel,misfits(old),
ramones, pennywise)
5 reggae is what i have picked to be my unofficial uplifting musical choice

6 my official uplifting music being HAPPY
HARDCORE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

6-other info- I live in duluth(big up ta XAQ), I work at kenwood subway, I
worked for fourteen hours yesterday(9-12-98) after going to class from
8-11(try it sometime), I make electronic music of all varieties, will be
releasing around 6-8 full length cds this year(i've been writing for almost
2.5 years w/out releasing any!), I'm going to be world famous, and I've
been a vegetarian for 1.5 years, and I hate hate hate hate hate hate the
word electronica! do not use this word around me-even as a joke- it is a
word produced by the media to make our lovely scene into another pat grunge
fad. I also hate hate hate hate the word techno! Don't use this word around
me-even in jest-it is a kind of music that was created in germany using
only synthesizerz and distortion.  I like it- but it does not pertain to
any form of music peole are using it to describe! I like to think alot, and
I don't care what anyone else says- I'm going to continue thinking.


the kind of music I make are:
1 old-skool type early rave music(like zoo-rave)-ps-THIS IS TECHNO-type
stuff
2 All forms of house music
3 dub, jungle, drum 'n' bass
4 minimal beat(plateau, plastikman, DJ apollo)
5 Maxibeat(my own creation which is similar to minimal beat, but uses as
many sounds as you fit in while still retaining structure and form.
6 trance, desertrance, HARD TRANCE(thomas elers is my fav),gabber
7 HAPPY HARDCORE( I'm really disappointed in the amount of people who get
into this:(
8 ambient
9 EXPERIMENTAL




C-YA,               MO


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Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 14:47:25 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) I'm new here folks!

In a message dated 9/13/98 2:42:38 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
[e-mail] writes:

<< and I hate hate hate hate hate hate the
 word electronica! >>
 Cool. I can't stand that word either. I love it when I tell people what kind
of music I listen to, and they are like, electronica? I love that stuf like
Prodigy and the Chemical Brothers and Fat Boy Slim. That is usually the last
time I talk to them. Later.
AJ

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Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 14:31:36 -0500 (CDT)
From: theShackofXaq <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility)

On Sat, 12 Sep 1998, Craig J. Rasmussen wrote:

> I just got the Drum & Bass version of Honey on tape.  It's tight.  It sounds
> kind of like roni size.  I don't think that anyone else has it because it
> has not been released yet, but I've got my connections.

i've got 2 d&b versions. which one do you have? so far, i have 14 remixes
of "honey."
i'm still looking for 2 others and the two other new moby songs. anyone
have any info on them?
[xaq]
"i think a lot, but it never helps me, so i stop.
                    but i really enjoy thinking."
                      Masafumi Sanai-photographer

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Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 16:57:18 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: (mobility) 'micronesia' and 'memory gospel'

In a message dated 9/13/1998 2:31:50 PM Central Daylight Time,
[e-mail] writes:

> i'm still looking for 2 others and the two other new moby songs. anyone
>  have any info on them?

i assume the other new moby songs you mentioned are "Micronesia" and "Memory
Gospel"?  theyre on 'Honey Pt. 1', which i recently ordered from CDNow for
about $10--i probably overpayed...but theyre both good songs and well worth
it, IMO.

i havent been reading much of this list lately, so i really dont want to write
a long post which has no real purpose, but i think i will.  if people have
already described the other 2 tracks, please ignore the rest of this...

Micronesia is somewhat chaotic, focusing on the sounds of a snare and a bass
drum--with some nifty ambient sounds thrown in...

and memory gospel is sort-of the inverse.  it seems mostly ambient, with drums
thrown in the background.   the female vocal is very nice in that song, isnt
it?  the piano is very nice too.  the entire song is very nice...
damn,....where did i put my thesaurus...

of the two, i favour 'memory gospel'.  i dont really know why...i just like
it.

~L~

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Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 17:08:02 -0500
From: "Brad Caviness" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Stash!

I've lucked into a collection of rare and OP Moby songs and mixes, so I've
been overdosing on tunes I haven't heard before. And after a little
listening, I have to say, MY GOD, the "Contentious Mix" of I Feel It is a
beautiful piece of music. Why is Moby's best work always the remixes and
songs you can't find anywhere?!

Brad S. Caviness, Ricochet Bigwig
Ricochet Internet Music Magazine (http://www.ricochetmusic.com)
[e-mail]

"I am a cipher wrapped in an enigma smothered in a secret sauce."
    -- Jimmy James, "News Radio"

"The best way to communicate should be banging on a drum and screaming."
    -- Moby, musician.

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Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 15:31:51 -0700 (PDT)
From: bulb naked <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) finally honey

i finally got my honey cds and i have to say i'm a
bit disappointed.. some members have been quite
positive about it but the song is just okay, it never
seems to get going.. some of the mixes are better but
for the first time i'm a bit hesitant about the new
full album.. the two b-sides mincronesia and memory
gospel or whatever sound like pretty generic moby. a
friend of mine thought they were on EIW. nothing new
here..
i'll listen to them twenty more times or so, maybe
they'll grow on me.. animal rights did..

tony
_________________________________________________________
DO YOU YAHOO!?
Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

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Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 18:11:29 -0600
From: Damian <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) finally honey (& more NEW Moby mixes for another artist?!?)

bulb naked wrote:
>
> i finally got my honey cds and i have to say i'm a
> bit disappointed.. some members have been quite
> positive about it but the song is just okay, it never
> seems to get going.. some of the mixes are better but
> for the first time i'm a bit hesitant about the new
> full album.. the two b-sides mincronesia and memory
> gospel or whatever sound like pretty generic moby. a
> friend of mine thought they were on EIW. nothing new
> here..

I know I've been quite positive about the single HONEY but I do admit I
experienced mixed emotions in listening to the song... especially for
the first time.  I didn't expect to hear what I did.  The press and
others have described the song as being in the hip-hop vein of things
but I don't really agree with that.  I'd probably say Honey has a
big-beat feel with a steady dose of funk.  And I like whoever described
the song as having a honky-tonk feel.  :)

The B-sides are a nice plus but they don't move me.  Fortunately, and as
it should be, it's the song itself and its remixes that I look forward
to hearing in the player.


So here's something exciting that I saw just a few minutes ago, it's
some release info that seems to have come from nowhere.  I'll be getting
the CD (not for another 3 weeks) & then likely the 12".  If I get exact
info for the discog and such I'll pass it on.  Cheers!

OMD: The OMD Remixes EP ("Enola Gay" (Sash mix), "Souvenir (Moby mixes)
on 1st 12"; "Electricity" (Micronauts mix), "Apollo XI" (Apollo 440
mix), "EG" (Sash edit) on 2nd 12"; "EG" (Sash edit), "Souvenir" (Moby
edit), "Electricity" (Micronauts mix) on CD) (Virgin 2nd 12": VSTX 1694.
CD: VSCDT 1694) EMI


Damian
[e-mail]
[e-mail]

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Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 20:15:44 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) finally honey (& more NEW Moby mixes for another artist?!?)

does anyone know where i can get honey mp3's?

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Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 21:59:32 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) finally honey (& more NEW Moby mixes for another artist?!?)

if anyone has honey in mp3 or knows where i can get it, please tell me, cuz i
haven't heard the whole song yet and have been looking desperately for it and
can't find it and i heard the clip and i really want  the song. thanks

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Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 11:23:03 +0100 (British Summer Time)
From: Tim Beecher <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) collabs

On Thu, 10 Sep 1998 12:06:26 -0700 (PDT) Paul Simpson
<[e-mail]> wrote:


>
> (now back ON topic...)
> and of course Michael Stipe. who was my original choice. even though
> stipe says hes too old and smart to go electronic.
>
> hey ryu, you collaborating w/ moby aint such a bad idea!
>
> here's an idea....moby w/ someone like EBN or Coldcut or Negativland,
> one of those like media manipualtors, that would be cool.
>
> U2....well, i never really liked u2. they have a few good songs but
> for the most part i think they suck. sorry.
>
> your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
>
>
I'm not saying this out of childish retaliation, just
because you failed to appreciate the brilliance of U2
(well, their early stuff anyway!), but Michael Stipe!? I'm
sorry, but 'Shiny happy people' and 'Everyone hurts' just
makes me want to chuck....I hope Moby never collabs. with
him! Sorry if I offended anyone else who likes REM (okay,
I like one or two tunes, but as a rule they're tired as
far as I'm concerned), but I think it's good to say what
you really think sometimes (of course, as long as it
doesn't create WW3 or anything!?).

- ----------------------
Tim Beecher
Cranfield University
[e-mail]

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Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 14:41:48 +0200
From: Joris Munnik <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) finally honey (& more NEW Moby mixes for another artist?!?)

[e-mail] schreef:

> does anyone know where i can get honey mp3's?

  Shame on you. Don't you know that Moby earns the money from the sales
of Honey?

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Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 09:25:20 -0400
From: Steve Giles <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (mobility) I'm new here folks!

>>3 I love Plastikman and DJ Apollo even though people tell me they have no
soul etc.

Welcome! It's nice to see a bright colorful person here. Diversity is
musical taste will gain you applause among us, not criticism. I like
Plastikman too, but he only sounds good when you listen w/ headphones or a
killer stereo. Lots of subtle details, you know? Techno techno tehcno. It's
only a word! It means different things to different people. Rocks and rolls,
how did that come about? It just did. Look at what the person is saying, not
how they're saying it. Glad to have ya here!

- -Steve G

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Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 11:20:58 -0600
From: "krwilson" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) ok,ok

ok,ok-----------maybe I got too spastik on the techno and electronica
thing, but i haven't had too much sleep lately.  anyway, thanx for the
input people.




On another subject, I was just wondering what everyone has to say about
their favorite old-skool moby tracks.(i can't pick just one)


Here are some of mine in no particular order:

1Next is the E(club mix)------------ok THIS one is my favorite song in the
whole world and if people had to choose one song to represent them this
would be mine.(the rest are in no particular order)

2 drug fits the face(original)- there's something(besides the title)
not-quite-right about the drug-free mix.

3 protect write-what can i say?-either you love it, or you REALLY love
it(or both)

4 go(amphetamix)-this one gets alot less attention than it
deserves-probably 'cause it's the last track.

5 besame-I was really surprised to hear a moby song like this! way before
my time.

- -------interesting story--------i saw a copy of the Brainstorm 12" at a
used bookstore(?)
in Michigan, but at the time I had only heard "everything is wrong", I
didn't have turntables, and i had no idea how rare it was. The price was
four dollars!  What i wouldn't
give...........................................................oh,well


C-ya             MO

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Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 12:32:45 -0400
From: Steve Giles <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) ol skewl, new edjumakashun

Older stuff that I like lots...hmmmm.

First of all, I applaud your choices on Besame & Amphetamix. They are quite
tasty. Voodoo Child (original mix), which I just got recently, kicks it. I
can't leave out the song that got me into Moby, which is Mobility (Aqua
Mix). Slight Return always takes me away. And Party Time always fixes me up
good. C3 Bells is super-pleasant.

Aside from the original Honey and comparable mixes, my current favorite is
the Dark mix. When I hear this I imagine myself in a racecar driving really
fast through a yellow/orange lighted tunnel. Yeah.

Regarding the d'n'b version, Bammer's, I think it suckss To me they're just
generic bass drones w/ Honey vocal drops here & there. I don't like most
d'n'b, so maybe I'm just backwards. For non-Moby mixes I like RJ's, which is
kinda triphoppy bigbeatish, and Westbam's, which is a party.

- -S

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Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 11:09:46 -0600
From: Daniel Cerman <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Ye fyne olde Moby traques

[was Re: (mobility) ok,ok]

krwilson wrote:
> On another subject, I was just wondering what everyone has to say about
> their favorite old-skool moby tracks.(i can't pick just one)

> 1Next is the E(club mix)------------ok THIS one is my favorite song in the
> whole world and if people had to choose one song to represent them this
> would be mine.(the rest are in no particular order)

This may be THE song that got me into Moby.  At the time I also
was hearing "Go (Woodtick Mix)" and a snippet of "Go (Rainforest
Mix)" and they also really helped.  So did "Move (You Make Me
Feel So Good)" -- the FULL VERSION, not the crap radio edit they
put on the CD.  Anyways, "Next Is The E (I Feel It)" made a big
impression on me.  I loved it, and still do.  Instinct's so-called
"Club Mix" of it is actually "Next Is The E (I Feel It)" with a
fade-out at the very end.  Argh, I hate fade-outs.  Get the single.
"Next Is The E (Victory Mix)" is great too.

"Peace Head" is a track from _Early Underground_ that I love.
I'd trade 10 Honeys for more music like that from Moby.

Another EU track I really like is "Mobility", which this list was
named after.  It makes me picture a semi-surreal scene of cruising
above the ground through a big city just after it rained. :)  The
Aqua Mix is a wonderful remix, too.

> 2 drug fits the face(original)- there's something(besides the title)
> not-quite-right about the drug-free mix.

Maybe part of it is that you have only about 2/3 of the mix.
Instinct went edit-crazy and faded out this and several other
_Rare_ tracks early.  Shame on them.  I like the original DFTF
better, though.

> 3 protect write-what can i say?-either you love it, or you REALLY love
> it(or both)

I love it. :)  That cymbal loop or whatever took up residence in
my brain and never let go.

> 4 go(amphetamix)-this one gets alot less attention than it
> deserves-probably 'cause it's the last track.

I like it too, but I think I heard that this mix was done by
somebody other than Moby.  Whoever it was, he's not credited
anywhere.  "Go (Rainforest Mix)" is a techno -- excuse me --
classic.

I never hear anyone say anything about "Everything".  It's one
of my favorite old Moby tracks.  I even modeled a song of my own
after it.  It's great having all this electronic noise build
tension and then have the piano breaks.

And though this was mentioned a couple months ago, I love "Slight
Return".  Which reminds me of _Ambient_.  I really like several
tracks from that album.

> 5 besame-I was really surprised to hear a moby song like this! way before
> my time.

I enjoy it, and it makes a good intro to EU.  If only it were
longer...  Anyways, Moby doesn't consider any Instinct albums
to be official, because he didn't get any/enough input on
them.  Thus, he considers EIW his "debut" album.  Boosheeit. ;]
If you want to hear good techno -- ouch! sorry! what should i
call it? -- music, grab all the old Instinct Moby albums and
singles.  They are, on average, wonderful, imho.

- ----story of my own:
My friend and I were driving through the city a few years ago,
and I was trying to turn him on to Moby.  We had Moby's self-
titled album in the tape deck, and were part-way through
"Electricity" when he started looking around nervously, unable
to locate the source of the police siren he thought he heard.
It was actually the music! :)

Dan

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Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 11:38:22 -0600
From: "4 Wilsons" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 13:38:22 -0400

Hello everyone... I'm new to the mobility list... hoping this will post!
Do any of you know of any good places to get Moby merchandise in Toronto,
Canada?  Anything would be greatly appreciated!  :-)

- -Jennafur

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Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 20:28:59 -0500
From: "DUSTIN RAINWATER" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Move

Someone mentioned in a previous post that the full length version of Move =
was much better than the radio edit that's on the CD.

I've never heard the full length? What is it like?
Also can it be found on CD? I've looked for it before on the discography =
but I didn't see it on anything other than vinyl.

  --Dustin

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