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mobility-digest       Friday, September 11 1998       Volume 01 : Number 215



(mobility) faq faq faq!
Re: (mobility) faq faq faq!
(mobility) collabs
Re: (mobility) Moby FAQ
(mobility) The Blue Light of the Underwater Sun
Re: (mobility) faq faq faq!
(mobility) old texts and such
Re: (mobility) moby/?
Re: (mobility) the  Moby faq
(mobility) Come to Daddy, BT, Honey
(mobility) beasties
(mobility) Re: mobility-digest V1 #214

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Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 14:49:49 -0400
From: Steve Giles <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) faq faq faq!

I think the abbreviations are a wonderful idea. Thanks, AJ.

Jonathan, since you've got exams now, that'll give Daniel time to see if he
has the old faq. Perhaps we can work off that. Speaking of interviews, I'd
like to ask Moby about that Japanese Sex Painting mystery, and verify that
which I'm sure of: that it is his voice at the beginning of "Blue Light".

BT is Brian Transeau, a music writer/producer from Maryland who makes a good
living off of Europe's far superior taste in music. (to the US) He did a
great song w/ Tori Amos, (who's managers discouraged her working w/ a
nobody) and was discovered by Sasha, a dj/producer, who heard his house mix
of a Led Zeppelin song. It seems that Moby & BT have many fans in common.

No, I don't think Moby & BT have worked with each other in any capacity
except for appearing at the same concerts. No mixes or collaborations.

I didn't know moby did mixes for N'Joi & Freddie Mercury that were
unreleased. Interesting. It's in the old discography.

- -Steve Giles

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Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 21:03:09 +0200
From: Jonathan Ruano <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) faq faq faq!

> Jonathan, since you've got exams now, that'll give Daniel time to see if he
> has the old faq. Perhaps we can work off that.
Ok.. Then, we'll start talking about it in two weeks (this weekend, and my
next everlasting-exams week :( ).

By now, I'm going home to relax a bit seeing two old X-files chapters...
I know, but I cant avoid seeing them again :)

Got an idea about average profile of a Moby fan. We could draw interesting
results..

Hey, it's been great having an almost online chat with all of you. Later!

- --
Jonathan Ruano <[e-mail]>

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Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 12:06:26 -0700 (PDT)
From: Paul Simpson <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) collabs

hey giles
when you said that thing about charlton heston i laughed my ass off!!!
i love celeb death match
its stupid but sooooooooo funny

anyway yes tori is up there on my collab list
as is trent
maybe richard fearless (Death In Vegas)?
don't forget Plastikman
hey heres an idea
all the richards in techno team up for a supertour!
Plastikman Richard Kirk Aphex Moby DIV gee who else am i missing....?

(now back ON topic...)
and of course Michael Stipe. who was my original choice. even though
stipe says hes too old and smart to go electronic.

hey ryu, you collaborating w/ moby aint such a bad idea!

here's an idea....moby w/ someone like EBN or Coldcut or Negativland,
one of those like media manipualtors, that would be cool.

U2....well, i never really liked u2. they have a few good songs but
for the most part i think they suck. sorry.

bjork....well....i thnik bjorks music is ment to be more
abstract...like Mark Bell of LFO works better with bjork...of course
maybe something from Debut would sound good w/moby....

of course madonna and moby would be cool too.

i could imagine moby and dangers

moby and mono, theres an idea.

moby and nkotb? there you go.

Moby and goldie would rock.


okay bye i guess.....GOOD LUCK APHEXXXXXXXXXXXXX!!!!!!!
==
"Where's Maggie? Where's Maggie? I'm not kidding, I can't see,
my retinas have detached again!"--Grampa Simpson
>>>>>>>>>>PAUL<<<<<<<<<<




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Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 13:35:41 -0600
From: Daniel Cerman <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby FAQ

Jonathan Ruano <[e-mail]> wrote:
> I think this could be a good non-from-scratch startup.
>
> Please, tell us if you manage to find it.

Got it!  Actually, I found three different versions of it.  They
really make me wish I was on the net in 1992 and 1993.  Thoze wuz
neet timez, and the net was relatively young.  Here are the files:

  http://www.moby.org/info/MobyFAQ19920730.txt
  http://www.moby.org/info/MobyFAQ19930101.txt
  http://www.moby.org/info/MobyFAQ19930828.txt

They have some other things attached, such as ancient versions of
the Moby discography, and an Instinct discography.  The 19930101
FAQ was apparently mislabeled 1 Jan 1992, so I corrected the date
in the filename (without modifying the file itself).

These old files and others have been locked away for years, known
only to a few people were active online five or six years ago,
like Lazlo Nibble.  Actually, it's my fault for not bringing them
to light sooner.  Shame on me.  Sorry, folks.  Mike Brown, whose
net accomplishments could fill at least one volume <g>, sent me a
ZIP file a long time ago when my Moby page was really taking off.
It included various little Moby-related snippets and these FAQs.

He generously passed these files on so that they could be used as
a resource for the discography and FAQ.  I incorporated info from
the old Moby discography into my Moby discography, but since there
wasn't an actively-maintained Moby FAQ, the other files were kind
of overlooked.  Until now.  Have at it, boyz. :)

I'll let you know if I find any other interesting/relevant stuff
for possible inclusion in the FAQ.  Good luck!

Daniel Cerman
http://www.moby.org/

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Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 13:40:19 -0600
From: Daniel Cerman <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) The Blue Light of the Underwater Sun

[was Re: (mobility) faq faq faq!]

Steve Giles wrote:
> like to ask Moby about that Japanese Sex Painting mystery, and verify that
> which I'm sure of: that it is his voice at the beginning of "Blue Light".

It's him, I'm sure.  I've heard his voice on other things including
the _Animal Rights Interview_ disc.  It's Moby's voice.

Moby's 33rd birthday is tomorrow.

Dan

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Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 16:32:34 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) faq faq faq!

<< BT is Brian Transeau, a music writer/producer from Maryland who makes a
good
 living off of Europe's far superior taste in music. >

Man, I was thinking you guys were talking about Blues Traveller.   But
seriously folks, I picked up the BT mix of the new Madonna song today.  It was
at Rolling Stones (for Steve G.) for 9.99.  BTW, I remember when I was at Big
Top, when they introduced BT I distinctly remember hearing "Chicago's own."
Maybe the jazzie sounds of Roswell fucked me up (or was it those
shrooms.......hmmmm)


Left above the clouds,
Carmen B.

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Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 16:54:59 -0400
From: Steve Giles <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) old texts and such

Thanks for the Rolling Stone info, Carmen!

>>"Chicago's own."

Who knows, maybe he lived here. His music career started from Maryland,
though. Hey Paul Simpson, the Gearwhore who now works out of California
actually started his music career here in Chicago. Now he's a bedroom
producer in LA, I think, and collaborated w/ Keoki on one of his tracks.

>Left above the clouds,
>Carmen B.

Nice reference. I suggested this to a friend the other day, and he loves it.

After checking out the old faqs I reread the old Moby posts in the info
section. When I first read them in March I was more sympathetic to the
anti-DAT group that was slamming Moby for "throwing on-stage temper
tantrums", among other things. While their arguments do hold water, they
also seem somewhat pointless. For instance, one person accused Moby of being
the musical taste police when he was writing about boring/fun live acts.
However, this was pure hypocrisy as the writer was the one being elitist,
not Moby. Why bother to make noise about DAT use when the show is good?
Besides, Moby now does more guitar stuff on stage, and uses mixes not
available, so it's not like playing one of his CDs really loud. Anyway, I'm
rambling and my point has long ago eluded me, but it's worth mentioning that
Lazlo Nibble, the discography guy who helped w/ the early Moby
discographies, was one of the most vocal anti-Moby writer in the alt.rave
thread.

Thanks for the info, Daniel, I now know that Moby only played some live
shows w/ Ultra Vivid Scene, and was on the road w/ Flipper. (I wonder did he
play onstage? doesn't matter now, really) Since the unreleased Dpeche Mode
mixes are mentioned in the discog, perhaps the Freddie Mercury & N'Joi ones
should be too? That b-side mentioned (in the last discog) w/ the Chaka Khan
samples is Mad Love. I'll get to hear it soon, if all goes well.

- -Steve

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Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 17:03:33 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) moby/?

In a message dated 9/10/98 4:32:45 AM Central Daylight Time,
[e-mail] writes:

<< I think an interesting but bizarre collab. would be with
 The Cure, Nick Cave, even P.J. Harvey or Curve, but
 seriously, maybe a good one would be with U2,
 Spiritualised, The Orb, Massive Attack or the Beastie Boys. >>

defineately the beastit boys

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Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 17:05:11 -0700
From: "Dr. Killpatient" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) the  Moby faq

Heavy Linux user here, what do you need?
paul

Jonathan Ruano wrote:
>
> On Thu, Sep 10, 1998 at 12:42:23PM -0400, Steve Giles wrote:
>
> > No, actually it was Compaq.
> /me looks up to the From: field.. and notices @digital.com Oops... sorry
> No pun intended.
>
> > Basically I think we should start by collecting ideas then the actual
> > process of writing and editing should be done via private e-mail.
> Aha.. It seems a good practice. We'll have and unofficial (or beta) FAQ
> till it gets something fairly complete.
>
> I wonder if we could get something out of that interview one of the
> Mobydicts (and his girlfriend) made to Moby.
>
> > 1.Moby's biography
> > 1.1 Born & raised
> > 1.2 Punk bands
> > 1.3 Moby w/ Flipper & Ultra Vivid Scene (we need info here!)
> > 1.4 Moby's residences (was there a meat packing factory or something?)
> > 1.5 Moby vs. Instinct
> > 2.Moby's theology, essays, beleifs, etc.
> > 3.Moby's releases (link to the discography, perhaps?)
> Of course, moby.org's a very good resource.
>
> > 4.Controversy (EIW genre-straddle, AR no dance period, etc.)
> > This one might belong under number 1.
> > 5.Assorted info (the possible GNR producer role, the car ad for charity)
> Moby's on cinema, famous TV ads, etc.
>
> > 6.Moby on the web (link to the Directory page?)
>
> Any other UNIX guy 'round here ?
>
> > Jonathan, this could be quite a large project. Are you sure you want to move
> > forward with this?
> You can bet. In a week, my exams will be over, and I'll got plenty of time
> (well, more or less, but I spend a lot of time online) to modify and add
> things to the FAQ. As for the design, I guess it could be written in some
> portable format, and then render it to HTML/ascii, so it can be distributed
> easily by HTTP/email.
>
> --
> Jonathan Ruano <[e-mail]>

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Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 21:42:49 -0700 (PDT)
From: bulb naked <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Come to Daddy, BT, Honey

just a note, i saw the come to daddy directors cut
over the week, it's really amazing and freakish and
hilarious.

after all you peoples bellyachin' about this BT, i
ordered the album from music blvd, i'll be listening
to it later tonight.

just a note for all, i preordered the honey cds from
AB-CD and i still havent recieved them.. warning.. i
this this company sucks..

i feel like the only one who still hasnt heard honey
(save the 30 sec clip)








- ---mobility-digest
<[e-mail]> wrote:
>
> mobility-digest      Thursday, September 10 1998
  Volume 01 : Number 214
>
>
>
> Re: (mobility) moby/?
> RE: (mobility) moby/?
> Re: RE: (mobility) moby/?
> (mobility) voodoo child - slight return
> (mobility) Moby/Tori/BT
> Re: (mobility) moby's real name
> (mobility) Moby FAQ
> Re: (mobility) moby's real name
> RE: (mobility) Moby/Tori/BT
> Re: (mobility) Moby/Tori/BT
> Re: (mobility) Moby/Tori/BT
> Re: (mobility) Moby/Tori/BT
> (mobility) the  Moby faq
> (mobility) Moby FAQ
> Re: (mobility) the  Moby faq
> Re: (mobility) the  Moby faq
> Re: (mobility) Moby FAQ
> Re: (mobility) Moby/Tori/BT
> Re: (mobility) Moby/Tori/BT
>
>
- ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 07:41:35 -0700
> From: "Jon Gage (Rekkit)" <[e-mail]>
> Subject: Re: (mobility) moby/?
>
> >I must be mistaken, but hasn't Moby done some
thing with Trent Reznor
> before?
>
>
> Nope, but that fateful day should be coming around
soon I figure.  They've
> both remixed Bowie, covered Joy Division & been
remixed by Aphrodite.  The
> stars are all in alignment....;)
>
> >working with someone else might not be that great.
The song with Filter? on
> >the Spawn soundtrack kind of sucks, but I don't
know how they worked
> together.
> >Anyway - Later.
>
>
> I didn't mind the track with the Butthole Surfers
actually-not his best but
> pretty decent...
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 07:38:31 -0500
> From: "Brad Caviness" <[e-mail]>
> Subject: RE: (mobility) moby/?
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Tim Beecher
> > > okay heres another one of my Pointless Polls
(uh oh, were in
> > > trouble...;)
> > >
> > > So who do yall think Moby should collab with?
> > >
> > I think an interesting but bizarre collab. ... U2
> >
> Oh Tim, you hit on a dream/fantasy of mine. Moby
hit the road last year for
> Animal Rights/Score about the same time U2 hit the
states both times for
> POP. I told all my friends I would go anywhere, pay
any amount to see Moby
> play with U2. Individually, I can resist driving to
St Louis or Dallas. But
> collectively, I would be compelled to go. I don't
know why this bill didn't
> happen. I think I would still kill to see it.
>
> BSC
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 14:05:30 +0100 (British
Summer Time)
> From: Tim Beecher <[e-mail]>
> Subject: Re: RE: (mobility) moby/?
>
> On Thu, 10 Sep 1998 07:38:31 -0500 Brad Caviness
> <[e-mail]> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Tim Beecher
> > > > okay heres another one of my Pointless Polls
(uh oh, were in
> > > > trouble...;)
> > > >
> > > > So who do yall think Moby should collab with?
> > > >
> > > I think an interesting but bizarre collab. ... U2
> > >
> > Oh Tim, you hit on a dream/fantasy of mine. Moby
hit the road last year for
> > Animal Rights/Score about the same time U2 hit
the states both times for
> > POP. I told all my friends I would go anywhere,
pay any amount to see Moby
> > play with U2. Individually, I can resist driving
to St Louis or Dallas. But
> > collectively, I would be compelled to go. I don't
know why this bill didn't
> > happen. I think I would still kill to see it.
> >
> > BSC
> >
> Now seeing U2 and Moby play at the same venue would
be the
> ultimate - I totally agree, especially if U2 mainly
played
> their old late 70s and 80s stuff.
>
> TMB
> >
>
> - ----------------------
> Tim Beecher
> Cranfield University
> [e-mail]
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 09:30:23 -0400
> From: Steve Giles <[e-mail]>
> Subject: (mobility) voodoo child - slight return
>
> Interesting discovery:
>
>     The edit of Voodoo Child on Early Underground,
which is credited to
> the remix 12", is actually an edit of the
Brainstorm mix. (This is the one
> with "Come on everybody let's all get down!") You'd
think that since they
> said naught about this on EU that the edit would be
of the Original Mix.
> Well, it's not. The original mix has that ambient
riff used in slight
> return,(during long breakdowns) without the layers
and pitch variations.
> "Voodoo Child (Original Mix)" can just as
effectively be titled  "Voodoo
> Child (Slight Return)"
>     No Buttons To Push is a short thing at just over a
minute, a nifty
> bass groove w/ lots of samples of what I beleive is
Hendrix's voice.
> Certainly sounds like him saying "No buttons to
push" He says other stuff
> too, but I can't recall what offhand.
>     Oh, and it was criminal of Instinct to edit any of
these mixes. The
> endings are great.
>
> - -S
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 16:21:35 +0200
> From: Jonathan Ruano <[e-mail]>
> Subject: (mobility) Moby/Tori/BT
>
> On Thu, Sep 10, 1998 at 01:28:18AM -0500, that girl
wrote:
>
> > i think moby in an ambient collaboration with
tori amos.. her voice would
> > sound perfect with his soundscapes.
> Have you listened to BT+Tori Amos "Blue Skies" ?
>
> How do you think, guys and gals, BT and Moby music
can be compared ? I
> admin that I've only listened to "Blue Skies" (and
several of its remixes),
> but BT sounded quite different than Moby... :-?
>
> - --
> Jonathan Ruano <[e-mail]>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 14:51:34 +0200
> From: Joris Munnik <[e-mail]>
> Subject: Re: (mobility) moby's real name
>
> Tim Beecher schreef:
>
> > On Wed, 09 Sep 1998 16:21:34 +0200 Joris Munnik
> > <[e-mail]> wrote:
> >
> > > does anybody know what Moby's real name is?
> > >
> > >
> > > Richard Hall, as far as I know.
> > >
> >
> > ----------------------
> > Tim Beecher
> > Cranfield University
> > [e-mail]
>
> Thanks Tim, You were  the only one who knows the
answer to my question.
> That surprised me. I thought more people knew it.
>
> joris
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 16:39:28 +0200
> From: Jonathan Ruano <[e-mail]>
> Subject: (mobility) Moby FAQ
>
> I'm sure that a lot of people knew Moby's real
name, but guess that a few
> people answered cause it's a FAQ question... BTW...
Dont you think it'll
> be good creating and maintaining a FAQ about Moby ?
>
> I'll collect questions and answers myself, but I
think my english is not
> good enough.
>
> - --
> Jonathan Ruano <[e-mail]>
>
>
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Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 00:55:03 -0500
From: Rob Skipworth <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) beasties

Didn't somebody mention a Mario Caldato Jr. mix of one of moby's
songs..... Caldato does a lot of work on the beastie albums so I'm
curious about what he could do with moby

- --rob

[e-mail] wrote:

> In a message dated 9/10/98 4:32:45 AM Central Daylight Time,
> [e-mail] writes:
>
> << I think an interesting but bizarre collab. would be with
>  The Cure, Nick Cave, even P.J. Harvey or Curve, but
>  seriously, maybe a good one would be with U2,
>  Spiritualised, The Orb, Massive Attack or the Beastie Boys. >>
>
> defineately the beastit boys

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Date: 10 Sep 1998 13:47:48 -0500
From: "April Kilduff" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Re: mobility-digest V1 #214

                                                                   9/10/98
              RE>mobility-digest V1 #214                            1:43 PM

what's this about moby being in ultra vivid scene? i went to see ian
mccullough about nine years about (damn i feel old now) and UVS opened. at the
time it was rather painful to sit and listen through their set, but probably
because i didn't know them and wanted to see ian. how wierd to think he might
have been right there on stage and i didn't know it! the first moby show i
remember seeing had him paired up with meat beat manifesto and prodigy - what
a fine show that was. that was around the beginning of '93 i think.

one other question - why the pseudonames like voodoo child? too keep himself a
bit inaccessable and out of the mainstream?

adios amigos,
april.

hi to the other minneapolis mobility-ers.  :>


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