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mobility-digest         Saturday, June 6 1998         Volume 01 : Number 174



Re: (mobility) MOBY INVOLVED IN PORNO FILM
Re: (mobility) friend of moby's
Re: (mobility) Re: yo boys and such
Re: (mobility) Re: yo boys and such
(mobility) this is a test
(mobility) labels are useful???
Re: (mobility) labels are useful???
(mobility) good bye
Re: (mobility) good bye
(mobility) Stinkweeds :)
(mobility) Blue Light Of the Underwater Sun
Re: (mobility) Stinkweeds :)
(mobility) much belated
(mobility) going away
(mobility) Disk

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Date: Wed, 3 Jun 1998 16:48:43 EDT
From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) MOBY INVOLVED IN PORNO FILM

in response to moby's involvement in a porno film, i also read a short article
about it in Spin magazine. it gives a good idea about what this movie is
about, sounds neat.

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Date: Thu, 4 Jun 1998 00:54:11 -0500 (CDT)
From: theShackofXaq <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) friend of moby's

On Wed, 3 Jun 1998, clayEV2k wrote:
> she says moby is still with elektra even though it looked like the deal
> was over

well, i talked to someone last week who works for bold! and claims to
live like, a block away who said he may be going to "work" or one other
label which i forget. she seems to be good firends with him.
actually, i gave her the address for this list, so maybe she can speak
for herself?

> his new album from what people who have heard tracks
> is very hip hop and very almost pop oriented and from what the buzz is
> it will be absolutely awesome!

she told me it was more bluesy.

i guess we will all see in a few months.

[xaq]
"i think a lot, but it never helps me, so i stop.
                    but i really enjoy thinking."
                      Masafumi Sanai-photographer

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Date: Thu, 04 Jun 1998 13:24:35 PDT
From: "Robert Traylor" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Re: yo boys and such

>Labeling music genres is one
>of the only ways to stop this from happening-
>I mean seriously, what if every different kind of music there
>is was all lumped together and there was no separate country and
>western section, or jazz, or gangsta rap, or heavy metal?

Yeah, even if I am writing way after this topic died, I had to get my
two cents in here.  I've seen lots of musicians in interviews say how
terrible it is that people label music and how wrong that is.  However,
that's really lame.  How are the majority of us to determine what to
listen to or not.  Not everyone watches the MTV music commericials (or
"videos" as some call them), and a lot of us don't kill our brain cells
listening to commercial radio, either.  So not everyone can say whether
or not they want to buy a particular band's CD or not without some sort
of brief classification.  Without the classification system for music, I
probably wouldn't waste my time looking for CD's at all, and I would
just not listen to music.
 . . .
 um
 . . .
well, maybe that's a little extreme, but I'd really have a tough time
with it, that's for damn certain.

Bob

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Date: Thu, 04 Jun 1998 16:50:53 -0400
From: Ryu <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Re: yo boys and such

>Yeah, even if I am writing way after this topic died, I had to get my
>two cents in here.  I've seen lots of musicians in interviews say how
>terrible it is that people label music and how wrong that is.  However,
>that's really lame.  How are the majority of us to determine what to
>listen to or not.

the main reason i don't like to label music is because of what
stupid scientists call "the self-fulfilling profecy".  they say that if you
call something or someone something enuff, even if it is unjustly, that
thing or person will inherit qualities that you've defined for them.

with music, i don't like it to be labeled because i believe it restricts
a musicians creative growth.  if i'm going to a show, and i don't
know any of the bands, but i know it's a ska show, i know
exactly what to expect.  there will be very few surprises for me there.
and i'll be unhappy.  bands that fit into a mould of any stereotype
or genre are bands that suck ass.

that is why i got interested in moby so quickly.  because every cd
i picked up was somethign else....something new....something different.

yes, labeling music can help a consumer to find it, which is fine....
but i think most musicians are concerned with a different type
of labeling than that.

shin,
ryu

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     "POWER MADE FLESH"
   The new CD from Ryu now
  available on Shoryuken! Records.
  Go to Ryu's Dojo for more info:
http://www.personal.psu.edu/users/jwz109
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        Ryu
 1013 S. Allen St., Apt. 507
  State College, PA 16801
        USA
[phone]   [e-mail]
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Date: Thu, 04 Jun 1998 20:31:44 -0400
From: michael boudreau <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) this is a test

testing.
- -

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Date: Thu, 04 Jun 1998 22:15:21 +0000
From: clayEV2k <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) labels are useful???

it really is a lot like saying he or she is a happy person
and expecting that person to always be happy
or otherwise we disappoint>

labels are like what ryu said
a self-fulfilling prophecy which is why the truly great artist like moby
and bt are constantly doing what they can to shake those labels>>>>

it's like saying he is a black person and expecting him to act the
nigger>

or a rich person to act the prick>

or a retard to not possess any useful knowledge about life>

labels are useful to a point
mosy of us prefer to be called by name


clay
evolution2000

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Date: Thu, 04 Jun 1998 22:29:54 +0000
From: clayEV2k <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) labels are useful???

> most of us prefer to be called by name


clay

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Date: Thu, 04 Jun 1998 19:02:25 PDT
From: "Michaela Gerstner" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) good bye

> NOTE: The following email was delayed for owner approval.
> It was sent from a non-subscribed address causing a delay.
> The format has been edited - not the content.

i hope this works from this address!!

well.. i'm going to have to sign off this list for a few weeks.  i am
moving to a new house, so i won't be able to check e-mail for a while.
i have to take my computer apart early because my parents want to take
it over to the new place.  so.. to save messages being erased off my
mail server (which geocities does after 7 days, i think), i'll just
sign off and join again.  if any of you guys will just really really
miss me (although, i can't see why), you can always e-mail me at
[e-mail] (the address that i am using right now, if this
works) i know that e-mail will not be erased from this one.

also, i am assuming that those people that wanted a WWMD bracelet
don't want them anymore because i haven't heard anything from anyone.
if this is not the case, then e-mail me at the hotmail address.
you won't get a reply until a few weeks (2-3).

so... hope this list doesn't die down because i'm leaving.  i know you
will all miss me!  <W> <G>  anyways, see you guys in a few weeks!!!!
i would never permanently leave this list.. it's too cool!  :)

see all of you fellow moby freaks in a few weeks!!!

Blessed Be,
Plovious
[e-mail]
http://www.geocities.com/RainForest/Vines/3589/

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Date: Fri, 05 Jun 1998 06:57:35 +0000
From: clayEV2k <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) good bye

we'll see ya in a couple weeks plovious.
you know we will miss ya!

clay

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Date: Fri, 5 Jun 1998 19:58:12 -0700 (MST)
From: kimberly <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Stinkweeds :)

I went to Stinkweeds last night (for a small show.  The bands were
'Frodus' and 'BlueBird'.  If you ever get a chance to see them, do it!
The singer of 'BlueBird' is hotter than all heck, but that's another
story. :) and I found the 'Everytime you touch me' single.  I love it!  I
was very saddened by the second song 'Blue light of the underwater sun'.
I was getting all into it, not even suspecting how it the spoken word part
would end.  Needless to say, I just wanted to slam dunk all the "comercial
tuna fisherman"!  It's a good thing I refuse to eat tuna!  (Poor Dolfins!)

Well, just wanted to share.  Was any one else scared when they first heard
that song????  Any one feel my pain?

have fun,

kimberly

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Date: Fri, 05 Jun 1998 20:21:36 -0700
From: "Dr. Killpatient" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Blue Light Of the Underwater Sun

kimberly wrote:
>
> I went to Stinkweeds last night (for a small show.  The bands were
> 'Frodus' and 'BlueBird'.  If you ever get a chance to see them, do it!
> The singer of 'BlueBird' is hotter than all heck, but that's another
> story. :) and I found the 'Everytime you touch me' single.  I love it!  I
> was very saddened by the second song 'Blue light of the underwater sun'.
> I was getting all into it, not even suspecting how it the spoken word part
> would end.  Needless to say, I just wanted to slam dunk all the "comercial
> tuna fisherman"!  It's a good thing I refuse to eat tuna!  (Poor Dolfins!)
>
> Well, just wanted to share.  Was any one else scared when they first heard
> that song????  Any one feel my pain?

Oh yes, quite a bit...I was overwhelmed with emotion, I ran through
several different feelings before the song ended...
it's not the same after you've heard it many times though,
I anticipate the music, it's no surprise...and I love the intensity
of that song, so much anger and chaos, yet on the verge of joy.
That voice at the beginning is this guy who has a whole series
of tapes for hypnotism, astral projection, and lucid dreaming.
I also loved the song because I had the same idea back in 92,
I made a song with a bunch of samples from him talking about
astral projection and how to achieve it. It's called 'Orange Liquid'
and it was recorded with a radio shack 4 channel mixer onto a
crap tape deck so I never really did anything with it, and later
when I had the chance to re-record it I thought it sucked!
I want to re-do the whole thing, but I'm short on equipment at
the moment. If anyone wants to hear it though, I'd be glad to
make an mp3 or realaudio and send it to you.

paul

>
> have fun,
>
> kimberly

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Date: Thu, 04 Jun 1998 23:56:06 -0700
From: Rekkit <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Stinkweeds :)

>Well, just wanted to share.  Was any one else scared when they first heard
>that song????  Any one feel my pain?

It's one of those songs that I think I can't stand; kind of like Sublime's
What I Got or Sour Times by Portishead.  Then I hear them and I rediscover
that I'm not sick of em ;)
The guitar freak out is definitely my favorite part...

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Date: Sat, 06 Jun 1998 10:32:56 -0400
From: michael boudreau <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) much belated

sorry, i've had trouble getting through on this list, but here's what
i've been trying to say for a while...sorry if this may not be relevant
anymore, but hey, it's still about moby.
this is how i organize my cds:
i have at least 400 cds and steadily growing. i arrange them in
alphabetical order, and as close to chronological order as possible,
e.g. import animal rights(1996) before u.s. animal rights(1997).  lopez
and voodoo child, despite them not being in order, i file under moby.
my favorite track on "move" is 'all that i need is to be loved (mv)',
and running a close second is 'unloved symphony'.
my favorite mix of into the blue? well, it's a toss-up between the
beatmasters mix, the summer wind mix, and the simple mix.
as for favorite era/genre?
definitely anything on mute or elektra, especially the everything is
wrong period, although i really like some AR b-sides like 'everyone of
my problems' and 'sway'.
i'm not necessarily into the cover of 'i like to score'. it's not nearly
as cool art as EIW or AR, but you know what? the contents more than make
up for the lackluster design.
until next time...
michaelfhuyfuj9ugfjoiihjb hjbyckcbigjiiimnbnvmnbbex

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Date: Sat, 06 Jun 1998 14:13:25 -0400
From: Ryu <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) going away

hello all,
   i'm leaving my dojo today....i'll be away for 2.5 weeks.
hopefully, i'll have email access where i'm going, but i'm
warning you all right now just in case i don't.
   i'm taking a job for 2 weeks to make lots of money
to release a compilation this summer.
   it'll be good.

so if you email me, and i don't get back to you right
away, that's why.

thanks for the continued support dudes and dudettes...

shin,
ryu

################################
     "POWER MADE FLESH"
   The new CD from Ryu now
  available on Shoryuken! Records.
  Go to Ryu's Dojo for more info:
http://www.personal.psu.edu/users/jwz109
################################
        Ryu
 1013 S. Allen St., Apt. 507
  State College, PA 16801
        USA
[phone]   [e-mail]
################################

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Date: Sat, 6 Jun 1998 16:10:40 -0700
From: [e-mail] (Alvin)
Subject: (mobility) Disk

Hey guys!

I have a question.  I have trouble running the videos and interviews
from "Disk."  The computer I am using has all the requirements for
"windows," but everytime I put the CD in, the music automatically plays.
Not any kind of menu comes up.  Do any of you know the problem?  Thanks!
If at all possible, please e me privately.

Alvin

[e-mail]

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