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mobility-digest        Wednesday, May 27 1998        Volume 01 : Number 169



(mobility) Re: mobility-digest V1 #166
Re: (mobility) Re: mobility-digest V1 #166
Re: (mobility) Re: mobility-digest V1 #165
(mobility) Re: mobility-digest V1 #167
Re: (mobility) coffee, titanic
Re: (mobility) Mobility
Re: (mobility) ILTS Cover Art/Welcome/Festivals/Caffiene
Re: (mobility) ILTS Cover Art
Re: (mobility) ILTS Cover Art
(mobility) This is my Thread
Re: (mobility) ILTS Cover Art
Re: (mobility) coffee

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Date: Tue, 26 May 1998 12:37:06 -0700 (MST)
From: kimberly <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Re: mobility-digest V1 #166

> From: "Michaela Gerstner" <[e-mail]>
> Subject: Re: (mobility) Caught Up and Moving On(was: Ketchup)
>
> i also finally got Aphex Twin Come to Daddy CD... very very interesting.  i
> find it amazing how each electronic musician has their own sounds... Aphex
> sounds totally different than Orbital and Moby and all the others.  i really
> like that because i can now pick up songs that i hear and tell which artist
> they're from.  i dunno.. maybe i get pleased with the stupidest of things..
> :)

Uh, it's okay to be amused by simple things.  I am also amused by simple
things, but then again, my life is dull and boring. :-P

And in response to the organization question....I don't organize.  I used
to, but I stoped.  Moby cds stay together though and they're labeled so
that my bf and I don't get confussed as to which are which.  He has FAR
more cds than I.  He losses his alot and since our somewhat recent move,
I've lost a few.  This upsets me. :(  But, no MOBY were lost in the move,
so I'm okay (at least I have MOBY to comfort me :)

Okay, that was kind of MOBY related. :-P  Although, quite pointless.

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> From: "Jake M." <[e-mail]>
> Subject: Re: (mobility) Re: mobility t-shirts
>
> I think the baseball jersey idea is quite neat.


So are you guys developing a shirt?  If so, I would love to help with
graphics and design if I can.  I'll post some of my MOBY graphics on my
web page and give y'all the URL if that helps.  :-)

Have a great day,

kimberly


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Date: Wed, 27 May 1998 01:47:17 -0700
From: "Dr. Killpatient" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Re: mobility-digest V1 #166

> > I think the baseball jersey idea is quite neat.
>
> So are you guys developing a shirt?  If so, I would love to help with
> graphics and design if I can.  I'll post some of my MOBY graphics on my
> web page and give y'all the URL if that helps.  :-)
>
> Have a great day,
>

that would be great!!
paul

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Date: Wed, 27 May 1998 09:44:45 +0100 (British Summer Time)
From: Tim Beecher <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Re: mobility-digest V1 #165

Moby, sworn opponent of the auto industry and the petro-chemical=20
complex, is allowing his track =8CGod Moving Over The Face Of The Waters=B9=
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to be used in a car commercial.

I'm assuming that this commercial eventually came to fruition... But I=20
never saw it... Did anyone out there?...

Yes it did come to fruition. I saw the ad for the new=20
'Rover' here on UK television last year. I couldn't believe=20
I was hearing 'God moving....'. I was quite amazed because=20
I never thought that Moby's music was that commercial then.=20
It's good to hear that the money Moby gets is going to good=20
causes from it. Makes sense using these rich companies to=20
promote good causes. I quite liked the ad actually. I'm not=20
very good at describing things, so I might make it sound=20
awful.=20

Basically, it showed this pregnant woman being driven by=20
her partner and you would get glimpses of the baby in the=20
womb. The title of the tune immediately implied a new=20
meaning in the context of the ad (i.e. God moving over the=20
face of the waters in the mother's womb to creating life,=20
sort of thing...?). Anyway from the car manufacturers=20
viewpoint it was to imply that the car was safe and=20
comfortable, I suppose.



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Date: Wed, 27 May 1998 10:07:16 +0100 (British Summer Time)
From: Tim Beecher <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Re: mobility-digest V1 #167

 > Well, from what I read in his sleeve notes, Moby appears
> to believe in Christ and his teachings which are all derived
> from biblical scripture.

He seems like a good person who believes in God and Christ. That works for
me, but it really isn't any of my business. :-P

If Moby was to say to the general public, "mind your own
business," then I would respect that. But all these things
that are being discussed here are comments or quotes that
Moby himself made to the general public. It becomes other's
business when he claims to belong to something that other's
also claim to belong to and value. So it's interesting to
discuss his views and where he's coming from and whether
people agree and want to support his views or disagree. I
love his music, but I'm also fascinated with his attitude
to life and what he's trying to do and say. If he didn't
want any of us to know about it, think about it or discuss
it, he wouldn't make it public would he?

Love,

TiM B.





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Date: Tue, 26 May 1998 23:26:46 -0500
From: "Dennis Daniels" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) coffee, titanic

     Maybe this is a bit embarassing, but I actually got seasick 30 minutes
into Titanic. I was getting pretty sick near the end. Anyway, i've got the
AMP CD, and it's dissapointing. Moby should've been on it. The Atari
Teenage Riot song is okay, I didn't like Tranquility Bass' song. The Goldie
song was great, but "Inner City Life" is the only Goldie song anybody puts
on albums (except UB.2) Also, why is "Block Rockin' Beats" the only C.B.
song getting credit? I like "Elektrobank" myself.
     That's my 2 cents (which will equal out to about $15.00 with
inflation).

        d.


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From: Paul Simpson <[e-mail]>
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Subject: (mobility) coffee, titanic
Date: Tuesday, May 26, 1998 4:20 PM

hey guys
just wondering, moby has said "Coffee is poison", right?

just wondering, why? whats he have against coffee?

"Roly-poly fish heads are never seen drinking cappucinnos in italian
restaurants with oriental women"...and neither is moby!!!

oh yeah, i just saw titanic yesterday. i wanna be cool and say, "yeah,
moby was dead right, it was the dumbest most boring fucking piece of
trash ever!!!!!!!!!!" but it wasnt. i mean it was definitely not worth
all the hype and 9,784 oscars it won, and i definitely wouldnt see it
100 times, but it was not bad. it was just ok. and i dont think it was
too long either. to me the time  just flew by. of course maybe i fell
asleep in the midle or something...

whatever. of course i was also the one who loved "Saturnzreturn", so...

and about that urbal beats, when the first one came out i thought it
was a ripoff of the AMP cd that came out around the same time, but
this one sounds interesting, more interesting than the new amp cd
thats coming out (which sounds a little weird anyway)

so does urb have a website? or something? this sounds cool, what
labels it on?

bye spuds
==
"Roly poly fish heads are never seen drinking Capuccinos in
Italian restaurants with Oriental women."
>>>>>>>>>>PAUL<<<<<<<<<<




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Date: Tue, 26 May 1998 21:13:11 -0700
From: "Dr. Killpatient" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Mobility

tilly wrote:

> > I was wondering how the last Real Life album did there last year,
> Well, Im into both the techno and the rock/indie scenes and try to keep
> up, and sorry mate, never heard of 'em.
>
You just don't know it probably- I think everyone has heard their big
one from 83- Send Me An Angel (it was a #1 hit in several countires)
and maybe the one from 90 (God Tonight)

paul

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Date: Wed, 27 May 1998 07:07:22 -0700
From: "Michaela Gerstner" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) ILTS Cover Art/Welcome/Festivals/Caffiene

i'm putting all my responses into one e-mail because i don't want to put too
many posts.  i'm glad to see that this list is coming alive again.  :)

well.. next to CDs, i prefer vinyl.  records are fabulous, and the sound is
awesome.  it's a shame to see them fading... they're slowly coming back,
though.  i'm already claiming my parents extensive record collection, as
well as starting my own.  i only have a few, though... some pearl jam, joan
baez, and other old ones i swiped while my dad wasn't looking.  it's odd,
i'm the only one in the house who has a turntable now... and i'm not giving
it up, either.  CDs are convenient, but i feel that records are a real
treasure.  maybe i'm just stuck in the past... i dunno.  i just love
records.  :)  now if i could find a place to get Moby ones i'd be in utopia.
;)
***
oh, and i think the ILTS cover is pretty neat.. although, it reminds me of
those microsoft internet explorer ads i see in SPIN.  the dots remind me of
it...

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and......  WELCOME MICHAEL!  (are you in FL? i have a friend in FL who also
uses
earthlink... is that local?)as for your enhanced CD, join the club.
nobody's works, either.  mine kinda worked when i ran it under windows 3.1,
which i found in my computer.  i guess my computer kept the old version when
i updated it to win95.  i just wound up opening up the videos and stuff
under quicktime manually.  of course, i was disappointed that it didn't run
right.. but oh well!
***
haven't you also noticed that festivals and concerts, besides getting too
commercial, are also getting more expensive?  i use to love going to the
Alachua Music Harvest every yr when i lived in FL.  then, they decided to
get more bigger artists, besides the local ones (which i felt had more
talent than the bigger artists).  pretty soon, $9 tickets for 3 full days of
music began to be $15 prepaid and $20 at the gate.. last yr they were $25 @
the gate.  when the ppl that organized this began to hire these bigger
artists, they lost the true feeling of the celebration-to celebrate all the
local music.  it's a shame.. i hate seeing all this commerical stuff ruin a
good thing.
***
and... caffiene is a great.  i don't drink coffee because i don't like the
taste and i don't want to get started on something that is not good for you.
then again, i drink soda for caffiene, which isn't good for you, either (the
acid in it isn't good for your stomach, and it depletes your body of water
rather than replenishing it).  so... i guess i shouldn't be talking.
anyways, soda has helped through some exams (the really boring history ones
who's questions are a mile along!).. but i've had it for times like that.
when it comes to liquid refreshment, the only thing i drink is green tea and
water.
Blessed Be,
Plovious
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Date: Wed, 27 May 1998 17:35:35 +0200
From: Jonathan Ruano <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) ILTS Cover Art

Hola, mobydicts:

On Tue, May 26, 1998 at 05:46:17PM +0100, Tim Beecher wrote:
>
> On Mon, 25 May 1998 12:53:43 -0500 (EST) Adekunle Olonoh
> <[e-mail]> wrote:
>
> > I didn't think the ILTS art was anything special, but it
> was simple and I liked it.
>  I think it's minimal but effective - I quite like
> it too actually - very retro.....
>
> I think it went along well with
> the 70's pimp sound on the ILTS track.
Yesterday it was time to listen to ILTS (joking, I just wanted to do it),
and the circles on the cover seemed to me as a script 'm' (standing for
Moby, I guessed). It's not very clear, but the reds and oranges made me
imagine a bit.

BTW, Inside the cover states that "Go" was written by Moby,David Lynch and
Angelo Badalamenti. It seems strange to me, as it says (as we all know) that
"G" (I just wanted to build an acronym :) includes a sample from.. blah,
blah, blah... Is it just a redundancy ? I never saw a song which had samples
of another stated as "being written" by those who made the sampled song...
 :-?


> And I love some of the funky 70s stuff on it. Though
> it has some old stuff, there's some good new tunes I hadn't
> heard before.
Did you enjoy "Boogie Nights", then ?

> Call me cave-man or whatever and I'm not looking for
> sympathy (well I am actually), but I don't have a CD
> PLAYER or any CDs (actually I have 2 given to me by
> friends, who assume I have something to play them on!)!
Hehehe, I bought CDs before actually having a player, just
to "create a demand" :)

> Anyway they're so bloody expensive in the UK - they're a
> rip-off! I can't afford to buy one (I'm a perpetual
> student you see) so I've still got my old, nasty turntable
> with those large, mainly black, vinyl discs, popularly
> known as 'records'
Dont hesitate, man! If you (we) like music, (you/we)'ll find
any way of get in touch..

Jonathan.

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Date: Wed, 27 May 1998 19:34:02 +0100 (British Summer Time)
From: Tim Beecher <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) ILTS Cover Art

I can't afford to buy one (I'm a perpetual
> student you see) so I've still got my old, nasty turntable
> with those large, mainly black, vinyl discs, popularly
> known as 'records'
Dont hesitate, man! If you (we) like music, (you/we)'ll find
any way of get in touch..

Jonathan.

Does that mean you can supply me with a CD player or
produce some financial incentive, brother?

TiM B.

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Date: Wed, 27 May 1998 14:58:42 -0400
From: Steve Giles <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) This is my Thread

    I like the ILTS cover art and liner notes. The orange and pink dots
are just there. They don't presume or represent anything, they just exist
there. I find the pointless unassuming simpicity rather refreshing.
Relaxing, even. I would buy a poster of the cover art, actually. I do
understand why people would NOT like the cover art. My bedroom decorations
are practically nil. Bright red carpet, bare off-white walls. One yarn
thingy of r2-d2 over yellow backround, 1.50$ at a garage sale.  People just
don't dig the spartan decor, but I do. and I like the cover. Ok.

    Since Andy the gingerbread man isn't doing the Thanks CDs anymore,
is there someone who would be so kind to make a tape of it for me? I'll
cover costs. E me private, thanks.

    Unfortunately, the letters that say MOBY on my shirt from the
concert are in grey, over a blue/red/black swirly background. Hard to read
at a quick glance, and not immediately recognizably a Moby related graphic.
I haven't met any Moby fans while wearing it, as I hope to. :-( We need more
Moby merchandise. I wonder if the order form in the back of Animal Rights is
still valid. I'll contact Mute or DEF or whatever, and let anyone interested
know.

    I too am on a T1, so I pay nothing for access but it is restricted,
as I am at work. I like it, and I cannot complain. Who could in my position?
Come to work, chat Moby, work, browse web, work, chat Moby, browse web, go
to lunch, etc. etc.

    g'bye now! Steve Giles

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Date: Wed, 27 May 1998 16:49:23 -0700
From: "Dr. Killpatient" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) ILTS Cover Art

>
> BTW, Inside the cover states that "Go" was written by Moby,David Lynch and
> Angelo Badalamenti. It seems strange to me, as it says (as we all know) that
> "G" (I just wanted to build an acronym :) includes a sample from.. blah,
> blah, blah... Is it just a redundancy ? I never saw a song which had samples
> of another stated as "being written" by those who made the sampled song...
>  :-?

See: MC Hammer getting busted for using Rick James...(can't touch this)

When a sample is used as part of the melody or song structure
as oppossed to just a drum beat or a noise or spoken words-
you have to share the writing credit as MC Hammer found out.
paul

Either that or shelf your record like Negativeland did with U2,
and like the KLF did with 'the Queen And I' (dancing queen from ABBA)

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Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 02:43:50 +0200
From: Jonathan Ruano <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) coffee

On Tue, May 26, 1998 at 05:11:06PM -0500, Ade wrote:

> >just wondering, moby has said "Coffee is poison", right?
> >just wondering, why? whats he have against coffee?
>
> Is he against coffee or caffeine?  I'm not really too hot about
> caffeine--it's a drug, and everyone knows it's a drug.  It's addictive and
> has some harmful side-affects.
I tried stop drinking coffee, just to check if I found myself better or so
(ha ha), and although a bit more sleepy when I wake up.. nothing special.
Now I'm having instead some infusions, and I'm "meeting" new herbs I didnt
tasted before (as strawberry one :).

Ah, one thing: It's helped me to sleep my 7-8 hours. If I dont (w/o
having coffee), I just cant wake up in time :)

> It's widely misused and abused but somehow
> still socially acceptable.  It's like how cocaine used to be in everything
> until earlier this century.
Something like cigarrettes... But now, people wants to stop smoking, but
doesnt realize that coffee is bad (although not so), too.

Jonathan.

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