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mobility-digest        Wednesday, May 27 1998        Volume 01 : Number 168



Re: (mobility) Mobility
RE: (mobility) Re: mobility-digest V1 #164
RE: (mobility) Re: mobility-digest V1 #164
(mobility) Re: mobility-digest V1 #167
(mobility) Re: mobility-digest V1 #167
RE: (mobility) Re: mobility-digest V1 #164
(mobility) Mobility
Re: (mobility)Fezztivalz (was:  Mobility)
Re: (mobility) Mobility
Re: (mobility) coffee, titanic
(mobility) Start as you mean to finish
(mobility) coffee, titanic

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Date: Tue, 26 May 1998 17:36:23 -0700
From: "Dr. Killpatient" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Mobility

tillyx wrote:
>
> Plovious, thanks for the welcome...
> as for whats it like in Aust... well, I have to say I am dissapointed
> with the music culture in Sydney. I origionally hail from a much smaller
> city where the quality of crowds was so much better (ie.people who enjoy
> the music vs. only going out to be seen and score). Also, the DJ's back
> home were willing to experiment with new sounds and werent afraid of
> playing stuff that wasnt de riguer. Apart from overseas acts, I havent
> been impressed with the sounds of club life here. Also, the rave scene
> here is dead, with abosolutely  everything moving into clubland. Whilst
> this is true all over the world, its not because of licensing or noise
> rrestrictions, but due to a city full of promoters who just cant get it
> together. the only raves that happen are very, very dodgy, and consist
> of a really young crowd who can dance to stuff thats 3 or 400 beats per
> min.

That reminds me of Organic 96 in SoCal, I thought I was really hip
to all the different scenes present, until my friends and I ventured
up to the upper stage in hopes of maybe finding some more psychedelics:)
What we found is a crowd of hyper active zombies jerking around
to the loudest kick drum ever and no songs under like 250 bpm!
No one could talk and there was no room anywhere near the speakers
because of the rows of people jamming their heads right inside them,
like it was the front row of a concert- a riot to get your head
right inside the speaker. We have ever since described any music
like that as "upperstage" stuff...and we are pretty scared of it.
Needless to say, we weren't sure if we wanted any of what ever
they were taking, and ran back down just in time for Orbital.


(they look like theyre doing aerobics rather than enjoying the
> sounds). My, that really makes me sound old doesnt it? (im not that old)
> Im not saying that the younger crowd dont have it together, its just
> that everythings so segredated between the kiddie ravers and clubbers. I
> prefer a nice medium.

I was wondering how the last Real Life album did there last year,
I featured it as artist of the month at RFU and talked quite a bit
with David Sterry (lead singer) about what they were up to, but I
don't ever hear about Real Life otherwise. Their new stuff is still
vocal oriented verse-chours-verse mostly, but they have a more
modern sound now...I'd call it synth pop, not really club music
and not heavy enough for rock stations- so of course it was pretty
much ignored by commercial radio in the US. I like many aussie bands
and I've noticed there seems to be a decent goth scene there too
and one of the best modern goth bands, Ikon. They sound very similar
to a polished Joy Division, the vocals being hauntingly like Ian Curtis.
In the 80s there was a ton of bands I loved from there-
the Church, Midnight Oil, Mental As Anything, Hunter & Collectors,
Split Enz, etc. I forget the names, but there are a few really good
goa trance acts that have gotten big recently too.
well, that's my 2 cents
paul

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Date: Tue, 26 May 1998 09:28:01 -0400
From: Steve Giles <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (mobility) Re: mobility-digest V1 #164

>Moby needs Dave McKean to do his cover art, although McKean pretty much
>sticks to album covers for industrial/metal bands.  anyway, his cover art
is
>some of the best i've seen.  VERY cool stuff..especially his Front Line
>Assembly covers.

Dave McKean did some really spooky art for Stephen King's last book, Wizard
& Glass. When I see his work I usually think of fire or blood, maybe because
of all those reds and browns. Moby is more suited to blue colors and water,
for serenity perhaps? McKean's artwork is too dense. I don't know. It could
be interesting, but Moby would have to sound like an anguished
alterna-rocker for the cover to match the music.

- -Steve Giles

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Date: Tue, 26 May 1998 09:28:01 -0400
From: Steve Giles <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (mobility) Re: mobility-digest V1 #164

>Moby needs Dave McKean to do his cover art, although McKean pretty much
>sticks to album covers for industrial/metal bands.  anyway, his cover art
is
>some of the best i've seen.  VERY cool stuff..especially his Front Line
>Assembly covers.

Dave McKean did some really spooky art for Stephen King's last book, Wizard
& Glass. When I see his work I usually think of fire or blood, maybe because
of all those reds and browns. Moby is more suited to blue colors and water,
for serenity perhaps? McKean's artwork is too dense. I don't know. It could
be interesting, but Moby would have to sound like an anguished
alterna-rocker for the cover to match the music.

- -Steve Giles

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Date: Tue, 26 May 1998 19:07:35 -0700 (MST)
From: kimberly <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Re: mobility-digest V1 #167

> Subject: Re: (mobility) Is Moby a Christian?

> > >From whatever I have read of Moby's religious views it would seem that he
> > rejects most dogma of any kind and even scripture(thebible) thus he would
> > not be inconsistent in his sexual behaviour.  Instead his take would best
> > be summed up in the theologian Thomas Aquinas(look him up, boys and
> > girls).  Perhaps he would be more accurate to claim that he is a deist
> > rather than a "christian" or does he truly believe in christ as the
> > savior?

Well, I have to say first and foremost that I don't care if MOBY believes
and prays to The Father, The Son and The Holy Ghost or Snoopy.  Second,
I don't understand the comment about his sexuality.  I've read that MOBY
likes anal sex, so friggin' what?  Is this a sodomy thing now?  Oh well.
I think that if MOBY wasn't to say he is a "christian" than who are any of
us to say he isn't?  I mean, is denomination (no spell check, sorry :) a
big deal?  What he believes in his heart, we will never know.  I know MOBY
is a talented musician who choses to say he's a christian.  Now, what many
would have us believe is that to be a christian, you must be "Christ-like"
and as we have all heard, Christ gave a damn and did good things for
others and the like.  MOBY gives a damn and he does good things for other,
like advocate animal rights and ecological issues.  I think a person with
a heart like his should be able to claim whatever religious name he
chooses for himself. :-)



> > Well, from what I read in his sleeve notes, Moby appears
> to believe in Christ and his teachings which are all derived
> from biblical scripture.

He seems like a good person who believes in God and Christ. That works for
me, but it really isn't any of my business. :-P

love,

kimberly





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Date: Tue, 26 May 1998 19:16:14 -0700 (MST)
From: kimberly <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Re: mobility-digest V1 #167

> From: michael boudreau <[e-mail]>
> Subject: (mobility) greetings
>
> i'd like to introduce myself. my name's michael, and i'm 21 years old.
> moby cd's i own:
> moby, early underground, ambient, next is the e cd single, rare, move,
> hymn(this is my dream), feeling so real, everything is wrong, everytime
> you touch me, into the blue, into the blue remixes, lopez-why can't it
> stop?, disk(the enhanced portion of which does not work on my computer),
> everything is wrong dj remix album, bring back my happiness (a domestic
> (usa) version and an import version), voodoo child-the end of everything
> (import version), animal rights (both domestic version and import with
> "little idiot"), revolver, revolver remix, i like to score, james bond
> theme,come on baby.
> i also bought a copy of recoil's "bloodline" for $1.99 so i could hear
> moby's rap on the song 'curse'.

Hi michael!  Uh, I'm jealous!  (I'm also poor and can't afford as much
MOBY as I'd like, any one wanna share the wealth??? :-)


> i think that's it for me.

Well, it's quite a lot!  Welcome to the list!!!

have fun,

kimberly


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Date: Tue, 26 May 1998 21:14:17 -0600
From: Chris <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (mobility) Re: mobility-digest V1 #164

that's true.  that is most likely why his album cover work is pretty much
limited to industrial/metal bands like fear factory, fla, stabbing westward,
download, skinny puppy, etc..i just suggested it cause i think his cover art
kicks ass, but it really doesn't fit the moby theme.  now that i think about
it, the only real covers that match moby, imho anyway, are all his present
album covers...i don't think anything should change.

>Dave McKean did some really spooky art for Stephen King's last book, Wizard
>& Glass. When I see his work I usually think of fire or blood, maybe because
>of all those reds and browns. Moby is more suited to blue colors and water,
>for serenity perhaps? McKean's artwork is too dense. I don't know. It could
>be interesting, but Moby would have to sound like an anguished
>alterna-rocker for the cover to match the music.
>
>-Steve Giles
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Date: Wed, 27 May 1998 13:50:21 -0400
From: tilly <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Mobility

Dr. Killpatient wrote:

> What we found is a crowd of hyper active zombies jerking around
> to the loudest kick drum ever and no songs under like 250 bpm!

what scares me most is that they wear matching adidasesque parachute
outfits, so they truly do look like theyre doing aerobics..anyways,
moving along
> I was wondering how the last Real Life album did there last year,
Well, Im into both the techno and the rock/indie scenes and try to keep
up, and sorry mate, never heard of 'em.


> the Church, Midnight Oil, Mental As Anything, Hunter & Collectors,
> Split Enz, etc. I forget the names, but there are a few really good
> goa trance acts that have gotten big recently too.

Yeah, the good independent radio station is doing a tragic hottest 100
of all time at the moment , and it looks like midnight oil might win.
Sorry, but im really not into Peter Garrett. Split Enz are origionally
from New Zealand but we claim them as our own. They morphed into Crowded
House, who broke up this year, if you didnt know :)

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Date: Wed, 27 May 1998 13:42:31 -0400
From: tillyx <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility)Fezztivalz (was:  Mobility)

Pedersen, Trond Erik wrote:



>
> I just can  remember "one" group from the early 90's  : a group called
> Cappella (italian/british euro-dance/house style crew). Other Europeans also
> nod when they here this name "Oh yeah, those..." .

I went to a big outdoor party last year here in Australia - the party
was a big dissapointment (venue problems), but they had the Cappella
DANCERS. They were very strange indeed and were really not very
interesting. From memory something was weird with the sound...i think
they might have been singing along to a very blatant backing tape (hey,
but who doesnt these days?)

> All the dacades from 60, 70 and 80'es have their own great
> groups like Deep Purple, Beatles, Elvis, Pink Floyd, A-ha, ABBA, Led
> Zeppelin, the list just goes on and on (Mind these groups merely as
> examples, I CAN list more, but I don't see the point). But when we round the
> Millennium, what do we remember from the 90'es??

> As I see the 90'es as my youth-years I really don't have anything to talk
> about when I get retired. (OK I'm so lucky I can pick a big group from the
> eighties, but so can my parents). So I end up with nothing for my self (or
> we ourselves perhaps is better)

This is just my opinion, but the fact that we kids dont have one group
to look up to is the whole point of our culture. I remember being so
impressed with the vibe at my first parties - one that promoted
tolerance and equality and having an open mind. I think  the music we
listen to is made by so many different people from all across the world
- - and it is all mixed together to create sounds which are definetly
unique to the 90's. Its true for many that parties just dont have the
same vibe (is it the drugs??? we ask) but I think that something was
started in the 80's with electronic music which is really important to
our age. Indeed, listening to advertisements proves that the sound is
becoming mainstream, so therefore its not something that will be
easially forgotten. Traditionally, young people develop music which goes
against the mainstram, so Im interested to see what happens in the 21st
century.
tilly


>

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Date: Tue, 26 May 1998 21:13:11 -0700
From: "Dr. Killpatient" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Mobility

tilly wrote:

> > I was wondering how the last Real Life album did there last year,
> Well, Im into both the techno and the rock/indie scenes and try to keep
> up, and sorry mate, never heard of 'em.
>
You just don't know it probably- I think everyone has heard their big
one from 83- Send Me An Angel (it was a #1 hit in several countires)
and maybe the one from 90 (God Tonight)

paul

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Date: Tue, 26 May 1998 23:26:46 -0500
From: "Dennis Daniels" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) coffee, titanic

     Maybe this is a bit embarassing, but I actually got seasick 30 minutes
into Titanic. I was getting pretty sick near the end. Anyway, i've got the
AMP CD, and it's dissapointing. Moby should've been on it. The Atari
Teenage Riot song is okay, I didn't like Tranquility Bass' song. The Goldie
song was great, but "Inner City Life" is the only Goldie song anybody puts
on albums (except UB.2) Also, why is "Block Rockin' Beats" the only C.B.
song getting credit? I like "Elektrobank" myself.
     That's my 2 cents (which will equal out to about $15.00 with
inflation).

        d.


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Subject: (mobility) coffee, titanic
Date: Tuesday, May 26, 1998 4:20 PM

hey guys
just wondering, moby has said "Coffee is poison", right?

just wondering, why? whats he have against coffee?

"Roly-poly fish heads are never seen drinking cappucinnos in italian
restaurants with oriental women"...and neither is moby!!!

oh yeah, i just saw titanic yesterday. i wanna be cool and say, "yeah,
moby was dead right, it was the dumbest most boring fucking piece of
trash ever!!!!!!!!!!" but it wasnt. i mean it was definitely not worth
all the hype and 9,784 oscars it won, and i definitely wouldnt see it
100 times, but it was not bad. it was just ok. and i dont think it was
too long either. to me the time  just flew by. of course maybe i fell
asleep in the midle or something...

whatever. of course i was also the one who loved "Saturnzreturn", so...

and about that urbal beats, when the first one came out i thought it
was a ripoff of the AMP cd that came out around the same time, but
this one sounds interesting, more interesting than the new amp cd
thats coming out (which sounds a little weird anyway)

so does urb have a website? or something? this sounds cool, what
labels it on?

bye spuds
==
"Roly poly fish heads are never seen drinking Capuccinos in
Italian restaurants with Oriental women."
>>>>>>>>>>PAUL<<<<<<<<<<




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Date: Tue, 26 May 1998 10:27:40 -0400
From: Steve Giles <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Start as you mean to finish

Eekmaus wrote:
>hey Steve G, here is some list noise for you....I am falling in love with
you,
>will you marry me?    ;)

What's going on here?? I'm too young to marry!! 19 is such a tender age, you
see.... :->
Ask again in 3 yrs or so, all I can offer today is a date.

I don't organize my CDs that well, occasionally I'll make piles for artists
whose cds I own in large quantities.

Poll results! Coming soon, not enough votes. YET, I hope.

EOE UK is beautiful! Only 12.78 w tax , not bad for IL,USA . I'm glad I got
the UK version, I think Animal Sight is pizazzy. The first half of the album
takes me higher & higher, the second half slowly brings me back down, and
then Animal Sight spins me around a couple times for good measure.

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Date: Tue, 26 May 1998 14:20:41 -0700 (PDT)
From: Paul Simpson <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) coffee, titanic

hey guys
just wondering, moby has said "Coffee is poison", right?

just wondering, why? whats he have against coffee?

"Roly-poly fish heads are never seen drinking cappucinnos in italian
restaurants with oriental women"...and neither is moby!!!

oh yeah, i just saw titanic yesterday. i wanna be cool and say, "yeah,
moby was dead right, it was the dumbest most boring fucking piece of
trash ever!!!!!!!!!!" but it wasnt. i mean it was definitely not worth
all the hype and 9,784 oscars it won, and i definitely wouldnt see it
100 times, but it was not bad. it was just ok. and i dont think it was
too long either. to me the time  just flew by. of course maybe i fell
asleep in the midle or something...

whatever. of course i was also the one who loved "Saturnzreturn", so...

and about that urbal beats, when the first one came out i thought it
was a ripoff of the AMP cd that came out around the same time, but
this one sounds interesting, more interesting than the new amp cd
thats coming out (which sounds a little weird anyway)

so does urb have a website? or something? this sounds cool, what
labels it on?

bye spuds
==
"Roly poly fish heads are never seen drinking Capuccinos in
Italian restaurants with Oriental women."
>>>>>>>>>>PAUL<<<<<<<<<<




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