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mobility-digest         Tuesday, May 12 1998         Volume 01 : Number 158



(mobility) more mimi
(mobility) sorry for the lies...
(mobility) Is Moby a Christian?
Re: (mobility) Mobility party Northwest
Re: (mobility) Mobility party Northwest
Re: (mobility) Mobility party Northwest
(mobility) Re: mobility t-shirts
Re: (mobility) Re: mobility t-shirts
Re: (mobility) Is Moby a Christian?
Re: (mobility) Re: mobility t-shirts
Re: (mobility) Re: mobility t-shirts
Re: (mobility) Is Moby a Christian?
(mobility) Boom boom boom and a zoom zoom
Re: (mobility) Re: mobility t-shirts
Re: (mobility) Is Moby a Christian?

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Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 13:34:37 -0700 (PDT)
From: Paul Simpson <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) more mimi

<http://www.luakabop.com/news_tours/index.html>

this tells about mimi goese's cd.
it is called _soak_ (sorry, _fire and roses_ mustve been a song title.)

btw, Bjork is aparently on the cd.




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Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 13:46:28 -0700 (PDT)
From: Paul Simpson <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) sorry for the lies...

nevermind, bjork is not on the cd. co-producer hector zazou has
produced bjork before. another producer on the cd is Hahn Rowe (hey
wasnt he on AR?)
Byrne did NOT produce the cd. nevermind.


_Soak_ is not a goese solo cd. it is released under the band name
"Mimi". BTW, they also do an ambient version of soundgarden's "Black
Hole Sun." Binnie Played this but i didn't know who it was. i looked
at cdnow and it was from mimi's album. and it has 11 or 12 trax on it
i think. maybe. of course im probably wrong.

<http://www.luakabop.com/news_tours/index.html>

go here and find out about it yrself!!!!

bye

np:DJ Spooky, "Synthetic Fury", one of the best cds of this
year...also probably the most diverse EP ever. almost as diverse as my
other fave cd of the year...

btw, that funky see thing was a dumb joke. i ripped that off from the
simpsons, circa 91-92.
doesn't moby watch the simpsons a lot?



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Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 22:15:09 +0100 (British Summer Time)
From: Tim Beecher <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Is Moby a Christian?

please be informed that moby is more modern and
experimental/experiential
than he is a church-goer
if you read closely he bashes christianity at the same time he
celebrates an adherence to it's most basic message
and yet he lives in such a way as to require forgiveness
at the end of the day>

I'm not particularly holy and spiritual myself, but if Moby
believes in God and 'basic Christianity' then you can't
really be selective about what you think feels right for
you. Isn't the wisdom of God supposed to tell you
what's right for you? Surely, if you claim to believe in
something like God and Christianity there has to be
boundaries - like murder (though an extreme example)has
always been wrong since time began. You can't really say
that 'do not commit murder' is an old fashioned statement
that can be done away with today? Didn't some pagans
sacrfice their children because they felt it would please
the gods they worshiped? Maybe they felt it was okay? I
don't really know what to believe. Does Christianity mean
you can do what you like because God will forgive you no
matter what you do or is there more to it than that? I
suppose like you say Moby is a contradiction and all of us
are and I agree with most of his views, but do we give up
and do what we like? Wow, that would be anarchy! Cool! - or
is it?

Love, peace and harmony,

TiM B.
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Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 18:13:56 -0700
From: "Dr.Killpatient" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Mobility party Northwest

Question: anyone on the list actually IN oregon?
We need a local sponsor for this to work, so we have a
contact who can find us a place to meet even if there is
a moby show- finding each other AT the show could prove to
be difficult, and after driving all that way we should
be sure we can all meet each other!
paul


Ryan Taylor wrote:
>
> >ryan: we should get one going here, sort of a Pacific Northwest chapter,
> >seeing as we're all pretty much isolated unless we live in Seattle :)
> >
> >How bout it, everyone in Idaho, Oregon, and Washington?
>
> I'm game..just give me enough time in advance so I can get time off work :).
> Might be a good idea to plan for August..My gf is looking into visiting
> Portland/Cannon Beach for a few days..I'll most likely tag along :).
>
> >Daniel Redmond (formerly dan #5)
> >np:some crap on the radio
>
> You actually listen to the radio here?  I only do when I'm forced to..Radio
> sucks here..thank god for my cd collection(maybe we should start our own
> radio station? :) )
>
> >how 'bout portland, oregon? pretty neutral for OR, WA, ID and North
> >Cali... plus, i wouldn't have to drive.... ;).
>
> >-aluminum angel
>
> Neutral?  Not even...Pendleton, OR is more neutral...If we add SLC to the
> picture..we're getting closer to Boise :).  Anyways..I'm not
> complaining..Portland works for me...Let's get this thing going..Any tour
> dates for the US yet..Would be cool if we could plan this around a
> concert(if not Moby..maybe another electronic artist).
>
> Ryan
> np:  Schmendryck K. Archer:  "Nine Inch Muzak"
>
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> "Duhhh, don't do that!  And stop with the wispery hissing, you
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Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 18:39:31 -0700
From: aluminum angel <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Mobility party Northwest

Dr. Killpatient wrote:
"Question: anyone on the list actually IN oregon?
We need a local sponsor for this to work, so we have a
contact who can find us a place to meet even if there is
a moby show- finding each other AT the show could prove to
be difficult, and after driving all that way we should
be sure we can all meet each other!"



well, i'm in portland, oregon right now...

if we are planning on a mobility party-type thing in august, i'll check
dates around here and see if there is anyone of "mobility" interest
playing. or you can come see my band... we use electronics and we have a
tentative show scheduled late that month in portland, sorry... shameless
self promotion ;).

- -aluminum angel

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Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 18:54:31 -0700
From: "Dr.Killpatient" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Mobility party Northwest

aluminum angel wrote:
>
> Dr. Killpatient wrote:
> "Question: anyone on the list actually IN oregon?
> We need a local sponsor for this to work, so we have a
> contact who can find us a place to meet even if there is
> a moby show- finding each other AT the show could prove to
> be difficult, and after driving all that way we should
> be sure we can all meet each other!"
>
> well, i'm in portland, oregon right now...
>
> if we are planning on a mobility party-type thing in august, i'll check
> dates around here and see if there is anyone of "mobility" interest
> playing. or you can come see my band... we use electronics and we have a
> tentative show scheduled late that month in portland, sorry... shameless
> self promotion ;).
>
> -aluminum angel

There is no shame in self promotion! That would work, in fact if
anyone else that may wish to attend has a band- maybe we could
have a show with other mobility list bands too!
August sounds like the best idea for sure,
I will work on a sign up form and post it on the web for
all those interested.
I'll let you know when I have that ready...
paul


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Date: Sat, 01 Sep 1956 21:13:58 +0000
From: Your Name <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Re: mobility t-shirts

>  even if there is
> a moby show- finding each other AT the show could prove to
> be difficult, and after driving all that way we should
> be sure we can all meet each other!
> paul
>
i remember someone a month or so ago saying they were kind of
interested in making t-shirts for people.....well
i think for various reasons a mobility
t-shirt and even button down version
would be a great thing
just as a club
and as a means of identification>>>>>>>>>>

i mean who else would have one but those of us on the list?




would the real t-shirt maker please step up!

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Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 00:05:20 -0700
From: "Dr.Killpatient" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Re: mobility t-shirts

Your Name wrote:
>
> >  even if there is
> > a moby show- finding each other AT the show could prove to
> > be difficult, and after driving all that way we should
> > be sure we can all meet each other!
> > paul
> >
> i remember someone a month or so ago saying they were kind of
> interested in making t-shirts for people.....well
> i think for various reasons a mobility
> t-shirt and even button down version
> would be a great thing
> just as a club
> and as a means of identification>>>>>>>>>>
>
> i mean who else would have one but those of us on the list?
>
> would the real t-shirt maker please step up!


Very good idea ...whoever was going to do it
my friend can make some semi OK iron ons with his printer..
we could always try that way
paul
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Date: Sat, 01 Sep 1956 21:52:23 +0000
From: Your Name <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Is Moby a Christian?

> I'm not particularly holy and spiritual myself, but if Moby
> believes in God and 'basic Christianity' then you can't
> really be selective about what you think feels right for
> you. Isn't the wisdom of God supposed to tell you
> what's right for you? Surely, if you claim to believe in
> something like God and Christianity there has to be
> boundaries - like murder (though an extreme example)has
> always been wrong since time began.

1) we are all spiritual in some way though maybe at various points in
our realization.........we sometimes think we are more or less than
others.
2) believing in one thing does not always mean you can't also believe
in another.......you can believe it is wrong to kill and also believe
one must kill that which randomly or unjustly kills others.
even the bible preaches eye for an i
as well as turning one's cheek>
it also suggests that god must destroy the earth to destroy the
evil within it.>>>>>>>

this is where me and christianity part ways as i believe this only
fuels the fire of every KIND of evil from the right wing
nuts who wanna clean up america from all it's cretin scum to those who
figure shit
we all gon die anyway
why not create some mad sick chaos and just get away wit it while we
can>>>>>>>

i believe moby's take on christianity must be very
multi-dimensional>>>>>>
personally
i
(like the rest of us here) would love to hear his current observations
and views on all this but i think he's wise to go about
doing what he does best
which is  make                       music

it's like this:::::::

you either know or you don't know
and those of us who come into the world questioning the basic rules and
regulations and codes
of conduct
morality
right
wrong .........well.............

maybe we''ll never find it
but just listening to some of this stuff the world has to offer
certainly gets the mind to thinking that listening to
foreigner
or boston or whatever doesn't

i wanna take you home tonight
i wanna take you home tonight
i wanna take you home tonight




well blah blah blah

does anybody believe moby quietly checks this list out
on occasion?


i would hope so..........

maybe we can get a guest appearance from him exclusively
in the form of a cool e-mail
or something....
one day?


oh well
sleep tight my fellow critters


clay
evolution2000

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Date: Sat, 01 Sep 1956 21:56:54 +0000
From: Your Name <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Re: mobility t-shirts

i think a small basic design using the word
and up high across the shoulders towards the neck......
and maybe doubled down the sleeve>>>>>>>
personally
i wanna button up version

we provide our own shirts and like
5 bucks for the hassle or something like that???

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Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 00:48:24 -0700
From: "Dr.Killpatient" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Re: mobility t-shirts

Your Name wrote:
>
> i think a small basic design using the word
> and up high across the shoulders towards the neck......
> and maybe doubled down the sleeve>>>>>>>
> personally
> i wanna button up version
>
> we provide our own shirts and like
> 5 bucks for the hassle or something like that???
>
clay- you have to fix the date on your machine,
I lose your messages alomst immediately, as I'm always doing ten
other things at the time

Are you talking to me? eh?
about the iron ons?
anyone else interested?
the thing is the shirts really need to be white for it
to work well in full color
if we just want black or blue, any color will work
but we should all pick the same color or it may not work
(noticing the shirt randomly on someone else)
because the iron ons look great at first but wash after
wash they fade pretty bad...white of course is best.
we should all design/vote on the logo design or whatever
else we want on this
paul


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Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 03:43:27 -0500
From: Ade <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Is Moby a Christian?

>(like the rest of us here) would love to hear his current observations
>and views on all this

Current is right on.  Maybe Moby's beliefs aren't really any sort of
contradiction because they've changed from what we've read about on EIW.
Anyone heard anything more recent than stuff he's written on album covers?
Maybe he's been praising anal sex and posing in Playboy all along--I would
be wrong then.  But we all change.  If I were to talk about my spirituality
now it would be very different than how I would have talked about it even
one year ago.

>does anybody believe moby quietly checks this list out
>on occasion?

I've thought about that a lot before.  Interesting idea.  Maybe one of us
is really him in disguise....

np: "Feeling So Real", EIW


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Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 08:52:17 -0400
From: Steve Giles <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Boom boom boom and a zoom zoom

Ade wrote:
>I've thought about that a lot before.  Interesting idea.  Maybe one of us
>is really him in disguise....

It's not me.

Well last weekend I acquired the US FSR CD. Along w/ Eno's Fractal Zoom.
(dorky name for a song title, good songs though. This single is a high value
w/ 12 remixes of the song, 5 or 6 by Moby, for 5 bucks. Also got ETYTM, The
Beatmasters 7" mix is probably my favorite. The Blue Light Of The Underwater
Sun reminds me of Unloved Symphony in it's anguished techno content. I hope
we get another limited edition 2CD set for Moby next album. That would be
the hair of the goat's nuts, or something like that. Right. TTYL, Steve

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Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 10:04:56 -0400 (EDT)
From: Woman of few words <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Re: mobility t-shirts

I think it was bonnie williams who said she would do shirts if we wanted.
I was reading some mobility mail that I had saved just yesterday and that
was one of them.  Is this feasible Bonnie?

I'm game for one.

- --marjorana

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Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 14:38:38 +0100 (British Summer Time)
From: Tim Beecher <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Is Moby a Christian?

Interesting how others view this - points taken. I'd much
rather live in a free society than one where your choices
are taken from you and other's wills are forced upon you -
fascism,communism,imperialism/colonialism and religious
fundamentalism have and still are responsible for that and
no country can feel smug and throw stones at others. Even
anarchists take the rights of others who want to live
in peace. However, that doesn't mean that God doesn't
exist. I think the religious bigots of this world forget
that God gave us free will and brains to ask questions and
reason with. Some of us might change spiritually, but do
basic principles change? I suppose the best we can do
with our imperfections, is attempt to strike a 'happy'
balance in an imperfect world.

Moby's concerns, passions, honesty and spiritual
'vibes' really come through in his music for me and I
suppose for most of you people!? His beliefs appear to me,
to be an integral part of his music. Maybe without
them he wouldn't have the creativity? Maybe because Moby
doesn't drink, take drugs/smoke, eat or wear animal
products, we can't begrudge him the odd bit of anal sex!?
He is human after all. For crying out loud, it's hard
enough trying to give up one of these things!

'Let's carry each other - brothers and sisters.....' START
A REVOLUTION.....

L,P&H,

TiM B.
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Cranfield University
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