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mobility-digest        Saturday, March 21 1998        Volume 01 : Number 116



(mobility) moby sinks titanic---cool!
Re: (mobility) Why is everyone leaving?
Re: (mobility) BT (the answer!)
Re: (mobility) Re:  BT
Re: (mobility) BT
(mobility) Re:+playboy
Re: (mobility) moby sinks titanic---cool!
(mobility) HULLABALOO
(mobility) why everyone is leaving
Re: (mobility) Why is everyone leaving?
Re: (mobility) moby sinks titanic---cool!
Re: (mobility) HULLABALOO
Re: (mobility) BMG
Re: (mobility) BT (the answer!)
(mobility) animal rights
Re: (mobility) moby sinks titanic---cool!
(mobility) Novio
Re: (mobility) end of everything
Re: (mobility) spawn

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Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 12:26:45 -0800 (PST)
From: Paul Simpson <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) moby sinks titanic---cool!

i just thought that "moby sinks the titanic" would be a cool name for
a MST3K-quality B-movie or short film at least...

think of it, A big xpensive ship comes cruising along the ocean when
all of the sudden, it gets rammed in the side by a big white whale
singing "all that i need is to be loved....can't you take this out of
me?..."

now that would be awesome!!

All this talk about Move and Into the blue is leaving me clueless.
None of my local stores have Moe or EIW Remix, or any singles! Last
time I went on vacation, i saw a lot o' Moby stuff at a Camelot
records store (pretty good sttore, they stock stuff like Negativland
that nobody has...)
Well next time I see move i'm buying it without hesitation...

I KNEW permanent green sampled Jacko-boy!!! I wonder if ol' mikey
knows...

I tried that thing at rolling stone online a while ago. It's neat, i
gave EIW 5 stars (duh)
and that article in 95, the great white wail, that was the 1 i was
talking about that had nude pics of him...definitely go to yr local
library and check it out and photocopy it...
on 2nd thought, maybe RSOnline has it somewhere....

Love that quote about "stop that hissing thing, you sound like a brian
eno record"!!! MST3K is the best show!! And whoever wanted to start a
South Park/MST/pc Gamer/other non-moby list, can i join?
 paul...
np in my head:DJ Spooky:"synaptic Dissonance"

==
This is a test of the Emergency Broadcast Network in
conjunction with this radio station.
If there had been an actual emergency, the following message
would have been given:
"EVERYBODY GIT OUTTA HERE, THERE'S A LOBSTER LOOSE!!!"
>>>>>>>>>>PAUL<<<<<<<<<<

_________________________________________________________
DO YOU YAHOO!?
Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

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Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 16:05:14 -0500 (EST)
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) Why is everyone leaving?

i am wondering also.
since i posted the "playboy" thingy, someone replied and wanted to be
taken off the list. thank you for respecting my opinion. (sarcastic)
that is all i have to say. thank you.

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Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 13:10:31 -0800
From: Daniel Lee <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) BT (the answer!)

BT is an awesome techno artist. His most well known track is "Blue Skies",
which featured Tori Amos vocals. His real name is Brian Transau, and he is a
very cool guy.

His new album is called "ESCM", and it is definitely worth picking up.

Hope that answers all your questions about BT. Sorry this had nothing to do
with Moby, but everyone seemed to be wondering.

Dan.



Rekkit wrote:

> >okay, ive ignored it long enough.. WHO IS BT????
>
> Richard something I believe; he did that "Blue Skies" song with Tori Amos
> doing vocals...
>
> Doesn't someone on the list know him?  I seem to remember something about
> that a while back.
> -------------------------------------------------------------------
> Death In Vegas: The Unofficial Page:
> http://www.spectranet.ca/~rekkit/index.htm

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Date: Wed, 29 Aug 1956 04:29:15 +0000
From: Your Name <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Re:  BT

I SAID
> virgin or whoever got pissed that bt would work with a nobody
> aren't these labels so stupid sometimes?
 I MEANT>

they were pissed at tori for working with BT
whom
in their estimation was a nobody

sorry for that

clay

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Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 17:39:08 EST
From: Jezbela <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) BT

BT is only one of the greatest musicians out there.  He is my absolute
favorite.  You should pick up his album "ESCM".  It is fantastic!!!!!!!

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Date: Wed, 29 Aug 1956 04:36:20 +0000
From: Your Name <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Re:+playboy

> if anyone doesn't want to waste their money on this stupid
> magazine, i can scan the pic and send it out to those interested.
> let me know.
>
> ryu
>
just send it out to all of us
i'm sure no one would be offended
let's just get it over with>>>>>>>
alas ....he's an extrovert
but we all knew that>


CC:

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Date: Wed, 29 Aug 1956 04:40:17 +0000
From: Your Name <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) moby sinks titanic---cool!

> Well next time I see move i'm buying it without hesitation...

move is really pretty okay>>>>>>>>>>

but it's not like earth shattering>
i don't think...o h     h e c k   mebbe it is

CC:
ev2k

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Date: Wed, 29 Aug 1956 05:55:35 +0000
From: Your Name <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) HULLABALOO

>>>bands do things like improvise and playthings that not only lead, but react to the audience.

This seems to be the bottom-line complaint aimed at moby in regards to
his dat generated "live" shows from way back when>

obviously the man can and does play instruments and sing with a full
live line-up and i hope some of these folks have quieted down since>

but i'm still certain as with any musician from
bach to bt, moby AIN'T
gonna change a damned song in the middle as he REACTS to some idiot
yelling
rock and roll
or Detroit is TECHNO
or SUUUUURGE!!!!! or anything>>>>>>>>>>>>
the day an audience determines what an artist is gonna really play up
there is the day we no longer need artists
to do what they do>
basically i find the discussion very interesting more
from the point of view of certain people's intensity towards the man
rather than for anything truly unique that was said>
i often share in that intensity
as i know the rest of you do too///////
face it some people will always hate ANY music on tape and at that time
moby had almost ALL OF IT on tape
then again some people will always hate electronic music and some people
will play almost ALL ELECTRONIC MUSIC
some people will always hate moby>
as much as i laugh and scratch my head and wonder about the man
how can anyone ever hate someone
who put out EIW    ?
so if anybody thinks they're gonna get some mystical chimps playing
emaculate drum patterns at 154 bpm
while a full orchestra kicks in to swing with
mama going oooweeee
in and out on time and off
well they're definitely
back to the future>

i just like the music>

now i jus hopes no 187 guy is gon smak my hed cuz iza usin
sum chit on tape
and not even onna ma dat cuz i ain't draggin that baby round no clubs as
yet and what's a little tape hiss gon hurt someone dumb enuff to
dig tha electro-acoustic sounds of.................

CC::

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Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 15:13:11 -0700
From: Chris <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) why everyone is leaving

actually, my guess would be that these are people that somehow ended up
on
this mailing list for reasons unbeknownst to them and they lack the
common
sense to read the welcome message that tells them how to unsub.


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Man is no God,                     rose's stem.
Mankind is, and always will be...  Thorns they do intend
a pest.                            no harm then.
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Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 19:49:36 -0700
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) Why is everyone leaving?

Daniel Lee wrote:
>
> Why is everyone asking to be taken off the list?

No need to worry, this isn't anything out of the normal.  Actually, you
don't see it but daily there are people subscribing and unsubscribing.
Bit by bit the list continues to grow and get stronger.  The only reason
that you saw those two emails is because they were worded differently
than most requests.  A filter normally catches them and I take care of
it as soon as conveniently possible.

And this is for Ryan Taylor:  Your message entitled "Doh Bart!" didn't
show up because it got caught in the above mentioned filter and I forgot
to forwarding it through.  I apologize.  :(

damian

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Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 20:08:46 -0700
From: "Michaela Gerstner" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) moby sinks titanic---cool!

hey... sounds like a good movie!  *G*  i haven't seen titanic yet... and
this is one i'd probably go & see!
Blessed Be,
Plovious
[e-mail]
http://www.geocities.com/RainForest/Vines/3589/
- -----Original Message-----
From: Paul Simpson <[e-mail]>
To: [e-mail] <[e-mail]>
Date: Friday, March 20, 1998 1:27 PM
Subject: (mobility) moby sinks titanic---cool!


>i just thought that "moby sinks the titanic" would be a cool name for
>a MST3K-quality B-movie or short film at least...
>
>think of it, A big xpensive ship comes cruising along the ocean when
>all of the sudden, it gets rammed in the side by a big white whale
>singing "all that i need is to be loved....can't you take this out of
>me?..."
>
>now that would be awesome!!
>
>All this talk about Move and Into the blue is leaving me clueless.
>None of my local stores have Moe or EIW Remix, or any singles! Last
>time I went on vacation, i saw a lot o' Moby stuff at a Camelot
>records store (pretty good sttore, they stock stuff like Negativland
>that nobody has...)
>Well next time I see move i'm buying it without hesitation...
>
>I KNEW permanent green sampled Jacko-boy!!! I wonder if ol' mikey
>knows...
>
>I tried that thing at rolling stone online a while ago. It's neat, i
>gave EIW 5 stars (duh)
>and that article in 95, the great white wail, that was the 1 i was
>talking about that had nude pics of him...definitely go to yr local
>library and check it out and photocopy it...
>on 2nd thought, maybe RSOnline has it somewhere....
>
>Love that quote about "stop that hissing thing, you sound like a brian
>eno record"!!! MST3K is the best show!! And whoever wanted to start a
>South Park/MST/pc Gamer/other non-moby list, can i join?
> paul...
>np in my head:DJ Spooky:"synaptic Dissonance"
>
>==
>This is a test of the Emergency Broadcast Network in
>conjunction with this radio station.
>If there had been an actual emergency, the following message
>would have been given:
>"EVERYBODY GIT OUTTA HERE, THERE'S A LOBSTER LOOSE!!!"
>>>>>>>>>>>PAUL<<<<<<<<<<
>
>_________________________________________________________
>DO YOU YAHOO!?
>Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
>
>

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Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 20:17:26 -0700
From: "Michaela Gerstner" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) HULLABALOO

personally, i don't care if moby uses DAT, or anything else.  i don't care
if he uses that little playskool radio w/ microphone attached!  his music is
good, and that's what i like.  hopefully, i'll see him in concert someday &
i just want to go to see him & hear his music.  if it's on DAT, that's OK.
@ least i'd get to see him.  i read that whole transcript of that little tif
that went on... i don't understand any of this stuff because i'm not a DJ
and i've only been listening to Moby for a couple of years.  i think any
form of music is amazing and it is wrong to bitch a person out for the way
they perform it.  maybe it's because i'm jealous that i have little, if any,
music talent in me, and i think that anyone who can produce any musical
sound is amazing.  anyways, i'm rambling.  i don't want to bring up that
whole argument that went on, i just felt that i should say something.  i
agree w/ u clay, i just like the music.  but, i also like that fact that
moby is a nice guy... or so i've heard.
Blessed Be,
Plovious
http://www.geocities.com/RainForest/Vines/3589/
- -----Original Message-----
From: Your Name <[e-mail]>
To: [e-mail] <[e-mail]>
Date: Friday, March 20, 1998 5:00 PM
Subject: (mobility) HULLABALOO


>>>>bands do things like improvise and playthings that not only lead, but
react to the audience.
>
>This seems to be the bottom-line complaint aimed at moby in regards to
>his dat generated "live" shows from way back when>
>
>obviously the man can and does play instruments and sing with a full
>live line-up and i hope some of these folks have quieted down since>
>
>but i'm still certain as with any musician from
>bach to bt, moby AIN'T
>gonna change a damned song in the middle as he REACTS to some idiot
>yelling
>rock and roll
>or Detroit is TECHNO
>or SUUUUURGE!!!!! or anything>>>>>>>>>>>>
>the day an audience determines what an artist is gonna really play up
>there is the day we no longer need artists
>to do what they do>
>basically i find the discussion very interesting more
>from the point of view of certain people's intensity towards the man
>rather than for anything truly unique that was said>
>i often share in that intensity
>as i know the rest of you do too///////
>face it some people will always hate ANY music on tape and at that time
>moby had almost ALL OF IT on tape
>then again some people will always hate electronic music and some people
>will play almost ALL ELECTRONIC MUSIC
>some people will always hate moby>
>as much as i laugh and scratch my head and wonder about the man
>how can anyone ever hate someone
>who put out EIW    ?
>so if anybody thinks they're gonna get some mystical chimps playing
>emaculate drum patterns at 154 bpm
>while a full orchestra kicks in to swing with
>mama going oooweeee
>in and out on time and off
>well they're definitely
>back to the future>
>
>i just like the music>
>
>now i jus hopes no 187 guy is gon smak my hed cuz iza usin
>sum chit on tape
>and not even onna ma dat cuz i ain't draggin that baby round no clubs as
>yet and what's a little tape hiss gon hurt someone dumb enuff to
>dig tha electro-acoustic sounds of.................
>
>CC::
>

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Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 23:23:17 -0600
From: "andrew n lomax" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) BMG

Alvin wrote:
> I never got to read that Details interview with Moby.  :(  Would I still
> be able to find it somewhere?  Hopefully?

this is going to sound stupid...but go to the library..usually the well
funded ones have past issues of mags bundled in book form and are used as
reference..i have seen  rollingstone ..entertainment weekly..etc done like
this ..also try half price book stores for old issues of mags and they
usually only cost like 50 cents to buy

good culture is good anarchism
drew
- -----Original Message-----
From: Daniel Cerman <[e-mail]>
To: [e-mail] <[e-mail]>
Date: Friday, March 20, 1998 9:24 AM
Subject: Re: (mobility) BMG


>Alvin wrote:
>> I never got to read that Details interview with Moby.  :(  Would I still
>> be able to find it somewhere?  Hopefully?
>
>I wouldn't know.  It's probably way too late to order a backissue,
>and so your best bet would be to search libraries.
>
>> HA!  I still have my MOVE sticker and it's in very good condition.  I
>> also have some others from when I wrote him.  What do you guys prefer?
>> The new or old logo?  I personally prefer the old one.  It seems more
>> solid.  The new one looks weak.  Just my opinion.
>
>Agreed.  The new one would be cool *if* he didn't already have a
>logo.  But he already had such a great (simpler, better) logo that
>I don't understand why it was replaced.
>
>Daniel Cerman
>http://www.moby.org/
>NP:  Orbital _In Sides_
>

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Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 22:13:53 -0800
From: [e-mail] (Alvin)
Subject: Re: (mobility) BT (the answer!)

I feel real guilty sending this out, but if it's to help some people...

http://www.masterbeat.com/audio/loving%20you%20more.ram

This is a 1:20 min real audio sample of BT's "Loving You More," (my
favorite bt).  It's on his album, IMA, and was in the top ten on Groove
Radio of last year.  "Blue Skies" was in the top ten in 1996.

Those who have ESCM, how is it compared to IMA?  Is "Love, Peace, and
Grease" one of those tracks, cuz they currently play that on Groove.
And is he the one singing on "Loving You More?"

Please answer my questions privately cuz I don't want to cause a big
fuss.  Thanks  -  Alvin

P.S.  -  Drew and Dan C.  Thanks for the tip on the Details interview
with Moby.  I'll try it. And as far as the DAT subject.  All I have to
say is... DAT's OK!!!  And Rekkit -->  Change is good on the logo, but I
still think he could have come up with a better one than that twiggy
thing.  Oh, and one more thing.  I saw the Moby Nude pic (thanx again,
Drew).  My opinion, Michael Stipe is sexier with his apendix scar!  ;)
Groove on, ppls!!!  -  Alvin

[e-mail]
"stay" - sash!

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Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 01:30:58 +0000
From: Mark Reed <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) animal rights

Seen as Animal Rights/Little idiot/End Of Everything were all recorded
in the same sessions.. could anyone suggest a possible running order for
how AR might have sounded using stuff from all 3 albums?

"M"
- --
Mark Reed

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Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 16:37:06 +0000
From: Mark Reed <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) moby sinks titanic---cool!

is the moby track on the "Spawn" soundtrack any good?
why wasn't it on I LIKE TO SCORE?

bye for now
- --
Mark Reed

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Date: Sat, 21 Mar 1998 09:22:03 -0500
From: Todd Huss <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Novio

Here's a question for you die hards....   does anyone know the source of the chant in the middle of "Novio?"

1) Did Moby actually have studio people come in, or did he sample it?
2) If it's a sample, where's it from?
3) Does anyone have any idea what it means, translated into English???

Toddhuss
[e-mail]

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Date: Sat, 21 Mar 1998 09:39:24 EST
From: Kpicara <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) end of everything

just quickly wanted to share something:

my friend mike was over late last night and we were listening to music- when
my cd changed to end of everything we got silent and just listened; didn't
speak for 2 1/2 tracks, then he said in awe "i bet you this is what it would
sound like if the ocean could talk."

,s

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Date: Sat, 21 Mar 1998 09:41:22 EST
From: Kpicara <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) spawn

In a message dated 98-03-21 07:02:13 EST, you write:

> is the moby track on the "Spawn" soundtrack any good?
>  why wasn't it on I LIKE TO SCORE?

hmm. my guess is because it isn't all moby?  the song imo is "okay"... being
both a moby and butthole surfers fan independantly i was sort of dissapointed
that when they got together it wasn't genius, but oh well.. i think if you
want to hear it there's prolly a clip @ cdnow in realaudio...

,sarah

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