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mobility-digest        Thursday, March 19 1998        Volume 01 : Number 113



Re: (mobility) Moby's live performances
Re: (mobility) shite
Re: (mobility) Chris Randall/SMG
(mobility) re: bestbuy
(mobility) re: bestbuy
Re: (mobility) Off-Track
(mobility) creation of tracks
(mobility) On-track
Re: (mobility) Moby's live performances
Re: (mobility) Moby's live performances
Re: (mobility) creation of tracks
Re: (mobility) Moby Live!
(mobility) Voice Farm
Re: (mobility) Moby's live performances
Re: (mobility) creation of tracks
Re: (mobility) Moby's live performances
Re: (mobility) Moby's live performances
(mobility) one last goldie post...hopefully
(mobility) into the blue mixes

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Date: Tue, 28 Aug 1956 18:55:58 +0000
From: Your Name <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby's live performances

> get me off this list please

oh wow
an intelligent person amongst us and they're leaving!!!!!!
yikes!

i guess we just gonna have ta keep having fun then!

so now hwere we gon get a brain?

CC::

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Date: Tue, 28 Aug 1956 19:00:55 +0000
From: Your Name <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) shite

> not trying to be bitchy
> not trying to not be bitchy
> not caring about titanic, the spices, or anyones egos (including my own)
>
> ,sarah
>
>
YOU KNOW SARAH
i like that in a person!!!!!
but could you repeat what you just said?!!!!

it just sounded GOOD!

clayev2k

i guess we found our brains.....hmm

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Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 17:05:20 -0700
From: Chris <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Chris Randall/SMG

might i suggest the new Front Line Assembly album...nothing at all like
their previous 2 albums, what with the heavy guitars and such.  it has a
very nice techno/breakbeat/industrial feel to it.  the lyrics are laughably
bad in spots, but the vocals sound cool.

>Until I hear an industrial album with a method of
>verse/chorus/verse that actually works with dance beats (Chemlab's "Burnout
>At The Hydrogen Bar" comes close) rather that a shoddy product of fading
>musicians trying to cash in on a current trend, I'm going to have to keep
>reiterating myself over and over again...
>


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Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 18:33:06 -0600 (CST)
From: Vince Varkey <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) re: bestbuy

Forgive me if this thread it outdated but I just checked my mail for
mobility just now, etc. Anyway, about Best Buy, I work there, and in the
music department. I don't understand this ignorant negative viewpoint
towards Best Buy. Yeah we mark down prices for cds..and you people have a
problem with this? Would I rather buy the new Moby cd for 12.99 or go to
the local indie store and get it for 20.99 just so I can support the whole
legend behind indie stores? Gimme a break. Yeah I like independent stores
because you can find hard-to-get cds, and such. But strictly as a
consumer, I don't see the point in going there to find mainstream cds as
opposed to Best Buy. Maybe if I had money to burn and I had time on my
hands I might understand, but in this day and age, it makes NO sense to me
at all.

- -vince

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Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 18:33:06 -0600 (CST)
From: Vince Varkey <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) re: bestbuy

Forgive me if this thread it outdated but I just checked my mail for
mobility just now, etc. Anyway, about Best Buy, I work there, and in the
music department. I don't understand this ignorant negative viewpoint
towards Best Buy. Yeah we mark down prices for cds..and you people have a
problem with this? Would I rather buy the new Moby cd for 12.99 or go to
the local indie store and get it for 20.99 just so I can support the whole
legend behind indie stores? Gimme a break. Yeah I like independent stores
because you can find hard-to-get cds, and such. But strictly as a
consumer, I don't see the point in going there to find mainstream cds as
opposed to Best Buy. Maybe if I had money to burn and I had time on my
hands I might understand, but in this day and age, it makes NO sense to me
at all.

- -vince

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Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 19:10:37 -0600
From: "Brad Caviness" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Off-Track

- -----Original Message-----
From: Ryan Taylor
>South Park(who really is Cartman's father and what is Kenny really saying)
>
the 1989 Denver Broncos

>MST3K(Did CC screw up when it gave up the show?)
Yes. Although not as much as Joel did by leaving the show, Gizmonics for
making the MST3K movie, or letting Sci-Fi dictate that some films (that
otherwise would get scewerd or MST'd) as sacred.

>Direct TV vs. Dish Network vs. Primestar vs. Cable(which is the better
>alternative?!?)
Primestar if you're a renter like me.

>PCGamer(best gaming mag?)
No interest.

BSC
>

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Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 20:32:01 -0500
From: [e-mail]
Subject: (mobility) creation of tracks

i know this is probably a really basic/stupid question, but id like to
know and i thought maybe it would create a new discussion.  are tracks
like, "love song for my mom" and "a season in hell" orchestrated on a
computer seqeuencer or are the instruments, ie violin, done by
musicians.  if this doesnt  make sense, ill write it again.
thanks!

joakim

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Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 18:49:19 -0700
From: [e-mail]
Subject: (mobility) On-track

It is time to get back on topic.

Let's leave it at that.

Seriously.


damian
[e-mail]

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Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 17:56:03 -0800
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby's live performances

Steve Giles wrote:
>
>         I went to see Moby at House Of Blues in Chicago on December 1st,
> 1997. He played all his dancey stuff prerecorded from a DAT and just kinda
> went wild and banged on a drum pad. It was fun to see him, of course, but I
> wanted something more. I would have been better if he'd been able to respond
> to the crowd musically instead of physically.... He did do that while he was
> playing guitar, and his banter was quite entertaining. (He was very
> friendly, signed hats and other items, can't remember what exactly) I
> noticed he likes to yell "LOVE" quite a lot. He did a really cool jazz
> Stairway To Heaven, which you'd need to hear, as imagining it would prove
> difficult, I think. Anyway, I was hoping to be blown away, but it was
> decently entertaining, not wonderful and mind-boggling.
>
> What are your opinions on Moby's stage act? Please share them with me.
> -Steve Giles

I've never heard of Moby using DAT ever. What gave you that idea?
He does yell pretty much the same things over every song though.
Like "Come On and Feel It!!!" and "Take Me Away!" and his all time
favorite thing to yell "NO!".
After seeing Moby some people think the lyrics in every song
include "NO! NO! NO!" I think it's kinda funny, but I like it.
He's been quite different each time I've seen him (5 times)
and sometimes (like Big Top) he does NOT seem into it, and even
seems to show some distaste for his own audience.
Hey, he's dissillusioned from all the druggie ravers he has had
to put up with thinking he's a psychedelic party guy I bet.

But DAT??

paul

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Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 18:50:44 -0700
From: "Michaela Gerstner" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby's live performances

clay... i think u've got too much time on your hands!  like ur sarcasm,
though.  sarcasm is great... can't live w/out it.  great, now i sound like a
junkie!  ;)

so, is there an article w/ that moby pic in playboy?  gotta know if it's
worth buying.  i dunno what i'll do w/ the mag afterwards because i really
don't need a mag of naked womyn in it... so, i gotta know if it is actually
worth spending $ on or not.  don't want to buy a mag full of stuff i don't
want just for one pic of moby.  not that he's not good enough.. just need to
save my $.  anyways, enough rambling.
Blessed Be,
Plovious
[e-mail]
http://www.geocities.com/RainForest/Vines/3589/

- -----Original Message-----
From: Your Name <[e-mail]>
To: [e-mail] <[e-mail]>
Date: Wednesday, March 18, 1998 4:38 PM
Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby's live performances


>> get me off this list please
>
>oh wow
>an intelligent person amongst us and they're leaving!!!!!!
>yikes!
>
>i guess we just gonna have ta keep having fun then!
>
>so now hwere we gon get a brain?
>
>CC::
>

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Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 18:20:37 -0800
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) creation of tracks

[e-mail] wrote:
>
> i know this is probably a really basic/stupid question, but id like to
> know and i thought maybe it would create a new discussion.  are tracks
> like, "love song for my mom" and "a season in hell" orchestrated on a
> computer seqeuencer or are the instruments, ie violin, done by
> musicians.  if this doesnt  make sense, ill write it again.
> thanks!
>
> joakim

I think it's safe to say that if it doesn't specifically mention
any live musicians in the credits, that Moby did it all on sequencer.
But of course with Little Idiot, there was no mention in the credits
of Animal Rights concerning Little Idiot so it could be anything...

My question is about the first track of Animal Rights, it is
different on the import from the domestic, or something.
I have the version with "Now I Let It Go" as the first track,
and I have not even heard the song it is replaced by
(forgot what it's called)
Is anyone out there interested in trading so I can get a copy
of that track?

l8r

paul

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Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 18:34:13 -0800
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby Live!

Steve Giles wrote:
>
>
>         >true...some of the act seemed very rehearsed.  in fact, he opened
> the exact
>         >same way at the Q101 Jamboree, last march.  the end of the show was
> very
>         >powerful, in my opinion.  just him standing on top of the keyboard
> (or
>         >whataever it was...i forgot).  unfortunately, my date for the
> evening had
>         >nearly passed out from dancing so i didnt get a chance to meet him
> after the
>         >show.
>
>         He was playing "Thousand" while standing on the keyboard. He did a
> kind of caterpillar/butterfly thing. He'd start crouched down with his limbs
> drawn in and slowly stood up and spread his arms along with the song. I
> kinda thought/hoped he was going to jump... I heard some commentary after
> the lights when on from some twentysomething academics in the drinking
> area.. saying things like he had a god complex and an inflated ego.  I
> disagree. A friend of mine met him when he did a signing at a club in
> Chicago 2 yrs ago around the Animal Rights release time. There was a line
> around the block there to see him. Moby was in tears of happiness and
> gratitude because he hadn't expected ANYBODY! To turn up. He sign to posters
> for him and did one of his trademark caricatures on each.
>
>         Steve Giles
>
Anyone who knows what Moby is all about would never say he has a God
complex, although I understand why people think that after THOUSAND.
Thousand is a spiritual experience if it's loud enough, and
people tend to be shocked when they have not seen or heard that
before. Once when I saw him, there was an announcement before he
came out for the encore (Thousand) they announced that anyone with
epilepsy or a heart condition must now leave the building.
I thought it was a joke, but then like twenty bouncers came out
and constucted a barricade of tables around the audience and
stood on top of them. That was the loudest thing I ever heard!
It made my insides vibrate so bad that all I could say afterward
was "holy shit" for about an hour. The strobe light went in perfect
synch to the kick drum and that was enough to flip you out too.
All you could see was Moby in his crucifix position above the
crowd with every spotlight in the house reflecting off his torso.
It made him appear to be glowing on his own, really freaky.

paul

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Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 18:35:53 -0800
From: [e-mail]
Subject: (mobility) Voice Farm

EvilNinja2 wrote:
>
> In a message dated 98-03-17 02:33:12 EST, you write:
>
> <<   Sit in your room and listen
>  to something no one would ever like, but that you can't help but love.  It
>  happens to all of us.
>   >>
>
> Hell, roght now i'm listening to a band that was popular for 5 minutes called
> "Voice Farm". I think they are about the best pop band that never made it.
> They had 2 hits,
> "Free Love", and "Seeing Is Believing". if you ever choose to seek out this
> band i truely recommend them.
>
> dj tripp

Right on! I love Voice Farm, and being from San Francisco (like them)
I have had the pleasure of seeing them live many, many times and met
Charlie Borwn and others around town...
I just finished encoding a couple Voice Farm tracks for iRFU,
which are "Super EQ Team" and "Johnny Belinda" which were also
singles and were hits on commercial radio and college at least
locally.
Great to see someone else who remembers them!!!

paul

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Date: Tue, 28 Aug 1956 21:56:22 +0000
From: Your Name <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby's live performances

for me it's one thing that we can end up appearing in
big-name merchandising publications
as a story or feature
that enlightens or educates
but one that shows primarily tits and ass
nect to vodka and beer ads is a little disconcerting when taken into
consideration
of an artist who has decried everything from
well
you name it.
good music
and (for some) god seemed to be the mission
but now there appears to be a new order of agenda
like mass marketing
which is a tricky issue in this day and age
of course
it all takes money...........
so using moby as a ploy to buy a magazine which has never really
supported great music or even great lifestyle
is well reasoned if you are playboy>
now if it makes sense to put yer rear in the pages of said magazine so
you can convert the normal reader of playboy and thusly educating that
individaul
it is doubtful>
so there becomes a trade-off somewhere
moby sells playboys
playboy sell mobys
for me
it's a little weird
so kids when you start to think that
everything is right
just cuz a much-revered person does it
well........
come come
he's a man
having fun
putting forth a message and making some damned awesome sound>
but i wouldn't buy the rag
today
tomorrow


as for you plovious
thank you
i don't have THAT much time
but you would think so by my postings here
i AM very involved in a project which is going to finally
put on a live face
i work full-time in construction and have 2 kids
one which is older than some of you>
i will probably always dig moby
but i won't shine his shoes
he is brilliant and he is a master
and he is human
and he ain't boring

let us never become


clay
evolution2000

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Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 22:08:33 -0500
From: Ryu <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) creation of tracks

At 08:32 PM 3/18/98 -0500, you wrote:
>i know this is probably a really basic/stupid question, but id like to
>know and i thought maybe it would create a new discussion.  are tracks
>like, "love song for my mom" and "a season in hell" orchestrated on a
>computer seqeuencer or are the instruments, ie violin, done by
>musicians.  if this doesnt  make sense, ill write it again.
>thanks!

i'm fairly certain that moby doesn't even use a sequencer on those slower
tracks.  if he does, he doesn't use and quantisization on them, because the
melodies are too organic.

does anyone know what synth moby makes them string sounds with?
i'd love to get my hands on one...

thanks,
ryu

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 electronic music.  To hear some, get cds,
   and see stuff, go to my homepage at:
http://www.personal.psu.edu/users/j/w/jwz109/
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 22:26:09 -0600 (CST)
From: Matthew E Hodges <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby's live performances

i need to be off of this list please.

[e-mail]
thank you.

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Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 22:30:44 -0600
From: "andrew n lomax" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby's live performances

- -----Original Message-----
From: Your Name <[e-mail]>
To: [e-mail] <[e-mail]>
Date: Wednesday, March 18, 1998 5:38 PM
Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby's live performances


>so how's that playboy article guys?
>is there an interview?
>does he say anything intelligent

i finally saw the playboy..no interview just a picture with a caption saying
a lil something about I LIKE TO SCORE and big top...i really like moby and
all BUT i really dont like him enough to see him playboy wearing only a
sock...it was a funny pict though..i can get it scanned if anyone really
wants to see it that bad. email me  privately
[e-mail]

good culture is good anarchism
drew

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Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 22:39:50 -0700
From: Chris <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) one last goldie post...hopefully

hello all.  i rarely post to this list, and i realize that we have decided
to stay on topic, but i have to ask something about goldie and this seems
the best place to do it.  i own the Timeless 2CD set, the Digital single,
and Saturnz Return and enjoy all of them thoroughly, however in reading the
liner notes, i noticed that goldie pretty much writes none of his songs.  if
he doesn't write and he doesn't play an instrument/program, then what
exactly does he do and why does he receive all the credit?  thanks.


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Man is no God,                     rose's stem.
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a pest.                            no harm then.
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Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 23:17:03 -0700
From: Dan Legare <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) into the blue mixes

>>What is your favorite Into the Blue mix?
>
i like the voodoo child mix quite a bit, except it should be another vc
song. spiritual/simple are great-and i like jon spencer's mix. so, if i had
to choose one, it would be simple. it would be simple.

i recently saw a clip of an interview with moby during his appearnce at
Canadian Music Week. he was going on about how we seem to categorize music
into "american music", or "canadian music" and then went on to say that he
looks at it as music, with no geographical stereotype.

being a canuck...

did he perform at this event?

cheers,
danny

Dan Legare
Nettwerk Mail Order Department
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