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mobility-digest        Tuesday, March 17 1998        Volume 01 : Number 109



(mobility) end of everything U.S. vs. U.K.
Re: (mobility) end of everything U.S. vs. U.K.
(mobility) N2DABLUE
(mobility) Hackers 2 Sndtrk./Non-Moby P.S.
Re: (mobility) goldie's boring
Re: (mobility) goldie's boring
Re: (mobility) goldie's boring
(mobility) Puff Daddy (READ THIS)
(mobility) AAAAGGGRRRHHHH!!!!!
Re: (mobility) Puff Daddy (READ THIS)
Re: (mobility) Puff Daddy (READ THIS)
Re: (mobility) AAAAGGGRRRHHHH!!!!!
Re: (mobility) AAAAGGGRRRHHHH!!!!!

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Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 05:05:58 -0700
From: Dan Legare <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) end of everything U.S. vs. U.K.

so i got 'end of everything' after looking hard and long. got it second
hand (?) anyhow, just wondering why the difference in track listing
inbetweem the U.S. and U.K. version, and so far i noticed a different
arrangement for dog heaven. will the real 'end of everything' stand up? i
don't really care, they are both great and top my list of fave moby/etc.
releases.
just wondering....

buh-bye

Dan Legare
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Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 09:08:53 -0600
From: "Brad Caviness" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) end of everything U.S. vs. U.K.

- -----Original Message-----
From: Dan Legare
>just wondering why the difference in track listing. will the real 'end of
>everything' stand up?

Moby said since he had time between the UK and the US release to tinker with
End of Everything and Animal Rights, he did. Little Idiot, Animal Rights and
Voodoo Child were all recorded at the same sessions. For the record, he
considers the US End of Everything his favorite album of his own material
and the US version of Animal Rights definitive over the 2-disc UK version.
Of course, we're still all going to buy the imports, because we're nuts and
have to have everything. But Moby says the cheaper domestic ones are the
ones that count to him.

BSC

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Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 15:57:05 EST
From: EvilNinja2 <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) N2DABLUE

Here is a link for an older DJ remix service that has Into The Blue DJ only
mix.


http://www.masterbeat.com/catalog_mbf.htm

the record title is "Flying"

dj tripp

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Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 18:41:54 -0500
From: [e-mail] (Ryan Taylor)
Subject: (mobility) Hackers 2 Sndtrk./Non-Moby P.S.

A friend and I were talking shop(music) before the Lowest of the Low tour
and he had mentioned that he had bought the Hackers 2 sndtrk recently and
that I should check it out if I hadn't already(I totally forgot about
it)..He mentioned it had Moby, Orb, Orbital, Prodigy, etc.  I checked out
the track listing..Now I already have Firestarter, Toxygene, Go(who doesnt?
:) ), Cherry Pie, and Speed Freak on other cd's.  Cdnow has 30 second ra
samples of each track..I listened to the other tracks..they sound
interesting..but it's hard to judge from just a 30 second sample.  Are the
rest of the songs worth it to purchase the full album?

Ryan

P.S.  Non-Moby:  Chris Randall(frontman of Sister Machine Gun) is putting
out a solo release on his own label(Positron! Records).  Here's how he
describes the cd:

The first record from Positron! is also the first full-length solo release
from SMG frontman Chris Randall. This record is
a collection of electronic moods. Not to be confused with the current crop
of electronica-oriented releases, Micronaut
pays homage to the more traditional synthesizer-oriented artists like
Jean-Michelle Jarre, Vangelis and Kraftwerk, with
a little Orbital thrown in for good measure. Percolating analog rhythms
support a delicate structure of electronically
synthesized head-trips. This isn't your mother's elevator music. Release
date March 31, 1998.

He does have 3 ra samples(available for download)..Please check it out..and
if you can..please purchase the cd...I'm not being paid to do this..just
wanna pass on great music :).  BTW..even though the release date is the
31st..It won't be found in stores..You'll have to purchase it from Chris.

Randall's homepage:  http://home.att.net/~chrisrandall/
Positron! Records:  http://home.att.net/~chrisrandall/positron.htm(He is
looking for demo's too..and considering he does know a lot of ppl in the
"industry"..Zaq...Ryu..etc..It can't hurt to send him your stuff :).  Let
him know I sent ya :) )

np:  SMG:  "Addiction(single)"

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Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 22:28:58 EST
From: Gfunk1138 <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) goldie's boring

OK, i will go so far to admit that the new goldie is pretty boring, especially
the first cd. ANd, i will aslo go as far to admit that "Inner City Life" was a
pretty boring CD, but that isn't enough to base an opinion on. What really
changed me into absolutely loving goldie was the Timeless 2 CD set, it really
is wonderful, and if one likes jungle in any respect, they would go out and
buy it.

justin

(i don't talk much do i?)

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Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 22:24:59 -0600
From: "Brad Caviness" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) goldie's boring

- -----Original Message-----
From: Gfunk1138

>OK, i will go so far to admit that the new goldie is pretty boring,
especially
>the first cd.

I remember seeing goldie perform live on Mtv back last summer and thinking
it was the most boring thing I had ever seen. I didn't get the concept:
techno music you can't dance to? I can appreciate nearly anything as art,
but goldie seemed to use a misappropriation of form.

I have often lamented the fact that Moby has not released much in the way of
jungle/dnb or acid rave/break beat, mainly because those are the styles that
are garnering the most popularity and airplay right now. But where he has
released music in those genres (Unloved Symphony, Dark, JBT), it is usually
better than what's on Mtv, thanks to Moby's reliance good song structure and
melody.

BSC

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Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 00:13:39 -0500
From: Ryu <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) goldie's boring

>I remember seeing goldie perform live on Mtv back last summer and thinking
>it was the most boring thing I had ever seen. I didn't get the concept:
>techno music you can't dance to? I can appreciate nearly anything as art,
>but goldie seemed to use a misappropriation of form.

i don't want to start a war here...but it's hard for me to remain quiet
on this topic.  half of goldie's "saturnzreturn" is total crap.  that half is
the drum and bass half.  the rest of it is some of the most emotional,
powerful, inspirational, personal, beautiful, and UNCOOL music i have ever
heard and that is why i think goldie is extremely talented at what he does.

why does techno music have to be dancable?
do you not like "the end of everything" then?

i see alot of moby in goldie's new album.  he sings about personal things.
he's eclectic.  he's spiritual.  of course he can't play an instrument,
but he can arrange like a  mofo!

bye,
ryu

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 My name is Ryu.  I make hard emotional
 electronic music.  To hear some, get cds,
   and see stuff, go to my homepage at:
http://www.personal.psu.edu/users/j/w/jwz109/
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
 Ryu  |  [e-mail]  |  814-867-0756
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Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 23:40:44 -0600
From: "a secret place" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Puff Daddy (READ THIS)

- ---SNIPPET----------------------------------------------
Hi, my name's Moby. A few weeks ago I was doing an interview and a
journalist asked me, over the last year, what records have I loved. And, as
shameful as this is, the only things I could think of were Puff Daddy, Spice
Girls, Chumbawamba, Hanson, etc. And I know I should probably have a better
appreciation for cool, esoteric underground music, but, to be honest, if I
look at my relationship to pop music the only... I mean to music in general,
the only stuff I've ever really loved is pop music. And not even in just a
revisionist sense of liking you know, Abba, The Beatles, The Rolling Stones
and them sort of stopping at 1985 but liking pop music basically from George
Gershwin to the Spice Girls. So, that's my shameful confession and rant,
that deep down, I have the taste of a thirteen year old girl. Thank you.
- ---END OF SNIPPET-------------------------------------

How ironic.....  the above clip was taken from www.theflash.com.  Don't
believe me?  Go check it out yourself.

1.  Click on "mtv music news"
2.  Click on the banner that has a picture of Moby and says "'blow-hard' -
Moby's guilty pleasure?  Pop Music!"
3.  Go all the way down the list of quotes. (They apparently saved the best
for last.)
4.  Do this soon before they nix the link!

So, my friends, do you believe this?  To think that all the while when we
were bantering on for weeks about getting the Sean "Puffy" Combs topics off
the list, MOBY himself was secretly listening to "Puffy Combs"?  And what??
Excuse me?  Now we have to bring the SPICE GIRLS, Chumbawamba, and HANSON
into it!?!?!?  What the heck!!!!  Are these the artists we all secretly love
but would never admit to it?  (I must admit, now, that I like the new
ChumawUmba song "Amnesia" - really cool lyrics and feel.  And there is ONE
Spice Girls song I have a MODERATE and SLIGHT attraction to - I think it's
called "say you'll be there".  But for Hanson, well.. I cannot say I have
any liking for their stuff... Does anybody think this was a joke?  I don't
think so personally.  It is Moby.  But is it possible that he was kidding?
Pulling a prank on us?  Someone who is friends with Moby, PLEASE sort this
one out for us!!  I gotta know!!  What with all the talk of Puffy Combs, we
were actually talking about Moby related stuff then!!!   Horrors!!
Ironic....      RRR aka delobbo
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Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 22:24:12 -0800
From: [e-mail]
Subject: (mobility) AAAAGGGRRRHHHH!!!!!

a secret place wrote:
>
> ---SNIPPET----------------------------------------------
> Hi, my name's Moby. A few weeks ago I was doing an interview and a
> journalist asked me, over the last year, what records have I loved. And, as
> shameful as this is, the only things I could think of were Puff Daddy, Spice
> Girls, Chumbawamba, Hanson, etc. And I know I should probably have a better
> appreciation for cool, esoteric underground music, but, to be honest, if I
> look at my relationship to pop music the only... I mean to music in general,
> the only stuff I've ever really loved is pop music. And not even in just a
> revisionist sense of liking you know, Abba, The Beatles, The Rolling Stones
> and them sort of stopping at 1985 but liking pop music basically from George
> Gershwin to the Spice Girls. So, that's my shameful confession and rant,
> that deep down, I have the taste of a thirteen year old girl. Thank you.
> ---END OF SNIPPET-------------------------------------
>
> How ironic.....  the above clip was taken from www.theflash.com.  Don't
> believe me?  Go check it out yourself.
>
> 1.  Click on "mtv music news"
> 2.  Click on the banner that has a picture of Moby and says "'blow-hard' -
> Moby's guilty pleasure?  Pop Music!"
> 3.  Go all the way down the list of quotes. (They apparently saved the best
> for last.)
> 4.  Do this soon before they nix the link!
>
> So, my friends, do you believe this?  To think that all the while when we
> were bantering on for weeks about getting the Sean "Puffy" Combs topics off
> the list, MOBY himself was secretly listening to "Puffy Combs"?  And what??
> Excuse me?  Now we have to bring the SPICE GIRLS, Chumbawamba, and HANSON
> into it!?!?!?  What the heck!!!!  Are these the artists we all secretly love
> but would never admit to it?  (I must admit, now, that I like the new
> ChumawUmba song "Amnesia" - really cool lyrics and feel.  And there is ONE
> Spice Girls song I have a MODERATE and SLIGHT attraction to - I think it's
> called "say you'll be there".  But for Hanson, well.. I cannot say I have
> any liking for their stuff... Does anybody think this was a joke?  I don't
> think so personally.  It is Moby.  But is it possible that he was kidding?
> Pulling a prank on us?  Someone who is friends with Moby, PLEASE sort this
> one out for us!!  I gotta know!!  What with all the talk of Puffy Combs, we
> were actually talking about Moby related stuff then!!!   Horrors!!
> Ironic....      RRR aka delobbo
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
>  when I arrive has the discotheque, have, it is very smokes, and I am
> espere that I slept but I realise that each time I would like small mask


Tell me it ins't so! I went there, and it IS mtv.com that is
saying this, which makes it seem very likely that it was him.
My image is shattered. No, I'm in denial- no way it's true!!!!
AAAHHH!!!! OK, so now everyone is suddenly going to start admitting
things they would normally keep secret too! AAAHHHHH!!!
I think he must have said it as some kind of joke on everyone-
or so I hope. I think I'm going to be sick now...bye
USe this link to get there:
http://www.mtv.com/news/blowhard/
the other link is just a frame with that in the window
I hope he doesn't start thinking of Spice Girls as a musical influence.

l8r

paul

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Date: Wed, 29 Aug 1956 08:59:26 +0000
From: Your Name <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Puff Daddy (READ THIS)

LOOK

moby is bent on changing the world or at least dominating it
(i.e. getting his piece of the pie)
on whatever level the opportunity presents itself
so if he is to reach a wider audience
what's he supposed to say?
oh i listen to weird dark creepy music that no one else ever heard of or
would like.... were they to hear it.........?
no!
he's gonna say ! look kids
i'm like you!
i like this and  i like that and you shouldn't feel stupid for liking
crap sometimes too/
because we all like fun crap and who cares what your TEACHER thinks.....
after all we're kids.......
and while i got your attention kids
 go and buy MY new album because it's gotta lotta fun crap and it's
gotta lotta cool deep almost dark crap too!!!!!
whoopee!!!!!!!!!
and you can trust the moby-dude
to know his fun crap from his deep crap AND
no matter how you view it
moby can do either better than just about anyone!



it's all publicity and propoganda folks>
and it's ALL FOR REAL
if you think moby sat around and listened to hanson and came up
with
everything is wrong..........
well who knows?
it could happen>

thank god for pop and the underground


clay
evolution2000

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Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 23:07:50 PST
From: "Sean Boland" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Puff Daddy (READ THIS)

    I saw that episode of 1515 on MTV, and although sickened by the
thought of my favorite artist digging Hanson, just shows us how dfferent
tastes affect even the best musicians.  But, on a personal note, I think
the Hanson boys are a sure 1 Album sensation if not the Anti-Christ,
that Chumbawumba has moments of "okayness", that Puffy is a Money
hungry, brilliant producer, and that the Spice girls are indeed absolute
thoughtless internet porn fuel with NO real musicianship.  And again,
it's an opinion, and of course, I am entitled to that.  Now music that
deserves mentioning in my mind is, Orbital, Chemical Brothers, Crystal
Method, Olive, Underworld, Older New Order, Peter Murphy, Bauhaus, Joy
Division, DK, Opus III, and of course Moby/Voodoo Child/Lopez/Barracuda.

Just your ordinary me
hifi1

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Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 01:32:23 -0600 (CST)
From: Bill Tatalovich <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) AAAAGGGRRRHHHH!!!!!

> Tell me it ins't so! I went there, and it IS mtv.com that is
> saying this, which makes it seem very likely that it was him.
> My image is shattered. No, I'm in denial- no way it's true!!!!
> AAAHHH!!!! OK, so now everyone is suddenly going to start admitting
> things they would normally keep secret too! AAAHHHHH!!!
> I think he must have said it as some kind of joke on everyone-
> or so I hope. I think I'm going to be sick now...bye

You know, I personally couldn't give a shit if Moby likes Chumbawamba,
Hanson, et al.  Fact is, I personally am getting sick and tired of bands
or singing groups (or Puffy, as he fits into neither category) getting so
much negative press.  Sure, the albums they make may suck to you or me,
but somebody likes them.  For chrissake (sorry)....people like what they
like.  Personally, I'd be content if the Smashing Pumpkins or Nirvana got
the same kind of press.  But again, that's just me.  I know people like
that music, and I respect that opinion.  I must admit that I don't like
the Spice Girls, Chumbawamba, Hanson, Puffy, or any of those other
groups, but that's just my opinion.  Whether Moby was kidding when he said
that...who knows?  I mean, if Axl Rose is listening to Prodigy, anything
is possible.  If you don't like somebody's choice in music...be it Moby's
or mine or John Q. Public's, just let it go.  Sit in your room and listen
to something no one would ever like, but that you can't help but love.  It
happens to all of us.

Bill Tatalovich
[e-mail]

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Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 23:54:41 -0800
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) AAAAGGGRRRHHHH!!!!!

Bill Tatalovich wrote:
>
> > Tell me it ins't so! I went there, and it IS mtv.com that is
> > saying this, which makes it seem very likely that it was him.
> > My image is shattered. No, I'm in denial- no way it's true!!!!
> > AAAHHH!!!! OK, so now everyone is suddenly going to start admitting
> > things they would normally keep secret too! AAAHHHHH!!!
> > I think he must have said it as some kind of joke on everyone-
> > or so I hope. I think I'm going to be sick now...bye
>
> You know, I personally couldn't give a shit if Moby likes Chumbawamba,
> Hanson, et al.  Fact is, I personally am getting sick and tired of bands
> or singing groups (or Puffy, as he fits into neither category) getting so
> much negative press.  Sure, the albums they make may suck to you or me,
> but somebody likes them.

There's always two sides to every page....

 For chrissake (sorry)....people like what they
> like.  Personally, I'd be content if the Smashing Pumpkins or Nirvana got
> the same kind of press.  But again, that's just me.


I would like that much better too! That is what gets forced down
our throat everyday by commercial radio.
If I had to choose I would choose to ban all GREEN DAY even if
it meant letting the spice girls in...


 I know people like
> that music, and I respect that opinion.  I must admit that I don't like
> the Spice Girls, Chumbawamba, Hanson, Puffy, or any of those other
> groups, but that's just my opinion.  Whether Moby was kidding when he said
> that...who knows?  I mean, if Axl Rose is listening to Prodigy, anything
> is possible.  If you don't like somebody's choice in music...be it Moby's
> or mine or John Q. Public's, just let it go.  Sit in your room and listen
> to something no one would ever like, but that you can't help but love.  It
> happens to all of us.
>
> Bill Tatalovich
> [e-mail]

I never said I thought Hanson should be assasinated. (hint, hint)

l8r
paul

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