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From: owner-mobility-digest@lists.xmission.com (mobility-digest)
To: mobility-digest@lists.xmission.com
Subject: mobility-digest V1 #93
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mobility-digest Wednesday, February 18 1998 Volume 01 : Number 093
Re: (mobility) the electronica wave
(mobility) Move (drums on the move)
Re: (mobility) Move Me, Orbital
Re: (mobility) Move Me, Orbital
(mobility) DANG!
(mobility) Moving me
Re: (mobility) Move me
(mobility) why frankz joined the List + favorites
Re: (mobility) Re: Sampling (Utah Saints)
(mobility) Orbital sniv
Re: (mobility) voodoo child
(mobility) stuff i like
(mobility) Re: move me
(mobility) Move-ing
Re: (mobility) Move-ing
(mobility) songs that move me, my tape, remixes, other random stuff
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Date: Tue, 17 Feb 1998 18:54:59 -0700
From: "Michaela Gerstner" <plovious@geocities.com>
Subject: Re: (mobility) the electronica wave
well.. i do hate to see that music must have a "trend", but i guess it
doesn't really bother me. i think ppl should listen to music because they
like it, not because it's in. i think that "trends" on the other hand,
open ppl up to other forms of music. hopefully, that love will stay w/
them. it is upsetting to hear ppl talk about these bands that are on the
current "trend", though, because you know that they don't really like it,
they just pretend to. i don't want to judge them, though, because this is
them trying to find themselves... and if they need to experiment w/
music-so be it. that what i feel anyway.
Blessed Be,
Plovious
http://www.geocities.com/RainForest/Vines/3589/
"we are not human beings having a spiritual experience,
we are spiritual beings having a human experience."
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Date: Tue, 17 Feb 1998 20:13:20 -0600
From: John Turpin <jct1@Ra.MsState.Edu>
Subject: (mobility) Move (drums on the move)
Everyone who has the hardware or software to do it should try playing
ethan's "Move" mix at different speeds. It still sounds cool when played at
a fraction of it's normal speed. I especially like that I was able to pick
out several familiar breaks this way.
- --
C The C.O.D. John Turpin
| <jct1@
/ \ Ra.MsState.Edu>
O D <http://www2.msstate.edu/~jct1/cod/>
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Date: Tue, 17 Feb 1998 22:01:47 -0600 (CST)
From: danperry@execpc.com
Subject: Re: (mobility) Move Me, Orbital
walnut is an extremely passionate song, to me. it's _so_full_ of emotion...
that dog must have meant a _lot_ to moby... it's possibly my favorite.
someone else mentioned Shining, and i agree... _great_ song...
and of course "when it's cold i'd like to die" can not be forgotten.
stream, my beautiful blue sky, the rain falls... great stuff...
on another note, i think Shining, Anthem, Hymn and Every One of My Problems
go _very_well_ together. they all seem to have a similar feel to them.
anyone agree?
as for orbital, in sides is incredible... it's my only album besides
snivilisation (which most agree isn't very good), but all the singles
i've heard on AMP are _terrific_.
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 17 Feb 1998 23:07:06 -0700
From: Daniel Cerman <dcerman@verinet.com>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Move Me, Orbital
danperry@execpc.com wrote:
> walnut is an extremely passionate song, to me. it's _so_full_ of emotion...
> that dog must have meant a _lot_ to moby... it's possibly my favorite.
Agreed! "Walnut" and "The Blue Terror of Lawns" are great tracks from
Little Idiot. So he had a dog named Walnut?
I really like Moby's Instinct-era techno generally more than his
also-good-but-different newer stuff. "Next Is The E" I Feel It
and Victory mixes were among the first tracks to introduce me to
the awesome musical world of Moby. One might say I was 'moved'
when I heard them.
"Move (You Make Me Feel So Good)" is IMHO one of the best Moby songs
ever. I'm talking about the full 12" mix, not the slaughtered radio
edit that they included on the CDs. Other remixes of "Move" are also
quite good, most notably the Sub Version and the Electro Mix.
"All That I Need Is To Be Loved (MV)" is possibly my all-time favorite
Moby track. It is very powerful, emotional, technological, and
beautiful -- the peak of Moby's techno. There are two rare hardtrance
remixes of it (one of which is on the EIW remix double CD) that are
also awesome. The House of Suffering Mix, which was included on EIW,
is very different and doesn't do anything for me.
Also, I like the "Hymn" remixes very much. They usually don't 'move'
me as much as the aforementioned songs, but I think they're wonderful
and I spent a lot of time and money collecting them all. It was
worth it.
Actually, I see that I could go on listing other great Moby tracks,
such as the "Into The Blue" remixes, Voodoo Child material, and
superb remixes of other artists including Eskimos & Egypt, Pet Shop
Boys, Brian Eno, Erasure, etc. but then I might end up including a
a large percentage of his prolific works in my tip-top-best-of-Moby
list, which seems to be too long already... so I'll shut up now. ;)
> as for orbital, in sides is incredible... it's my only album besides
> snivilisation (which most agree isn't very good), but all the singles
> i've heard on AMP are _terrific_.
I actually like Snivilisation. I got the impression from people on
the Orbital mailing list that it's a really bad album, but when I
just had to get my Orbital fix and there was nowhere else to go, I
bought it. I'm glad to be among the small fraction of Orbital fans
that really likes it.
Dan
------------------------------
Date: Wed, 18 Feb 1998 01:19:52 EST
From: Eekmaus@aol.com
Subject: (mobility) DANG!
whoah!
I just plowed through the Mobility mail from January that I have been saving
up. After ten cups of coffee and five trips to the bathroom....I am at last up
to February 1st....my eyes are buggin out. Gotta love those one liners.
This is what I have to say....I have about 25 Moby Cd's and about three pieces
of Vinyl....vinyl rules!
Also to those who find Aphex Twin too "wierd". You really must go to one of
his live shows! A Wall of sound that will knock you off you feet....he is
cool.
Not much more to say...but to those I am sapposed to send pictures to, don't
worry...I have them ready, it's just a question of me getting off my butt and
actually mailing them....
- -Eekmaus
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Date: Tue, 17 Feb 1998 22:52:28 -0700
From: Dan Legare <danny@nettwerk.com>
Subject: (mobility) Moving me
in no order of course:
living
when it's cold i'd like to die
voodoo child's end of everything
into the blue
hymn.alt.quiet.version
these are the songs that make the whole world cry
Dan Legare
Nettwerk Mail Order Department
danny@nettwerk.com
- -------------------------------------------------------------------
Nettwerk Productions-Box 330 1755 Robson St. Vancouver, BC V6G 2B5
PH-604.654.2929 FX-604.654.1993 Email-info@nettwerk.com
http://www.nettwerk.com
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Date: Wed, 18 Feb 1998 06:56:05 +0000
From: "Ben Chim" <bchim@julian.uwo.ca>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Move me
Hmm...its good to see us talkin' about Moby's music, cause
honestly, I haven't thought about it too much in a while...maybe its
time for me to get back all those moby CD's I lent out! Anyways..I
just wanted to get in my 2 cents worth of moby's songs that make me
feel all wierd(in a good way) inside...usually those songs are ones
that remind of a certain time or place or person that made me so
happy, yet so nostalgic, that no words, only music, can describe. I
think that's what I love best about Moby's music - that he does make
songs that bring about feelings that are so strong that attempting to
put them into words would only dimish their magnitude.
I find _All that I need is to be love(melodic mix)_, the one near
the end of EIW remixed, to be one of the most gut wrenching songs
ever. The haunting vocals and melodic instrumentals that moby uses
are just incedible.
Another song that really does it for me is _Into the
Blue(Beatmasters mix)_. The lone decending piano blends beautifully
with the chord progression...just lovely. Can't describe, can only
cry.
Ben
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Date: Wed, 18 Feb 1998 14:39:18 +0100
From: but not _the_ frankz <frank.z@wxs.nl>
Subject: (mobility) why frankz joined the List + favorites
All I need is to be Loved,
was actually the very first thing I heard from Moby,
a friend of mine who makes 'electronic' (what a term) music himself, said
that he thought it might be interesting, but said he, 'don't buy his new CD
Animal Rights, cause it's all punk and too LOUD... well, i replied, what's
wrong about that?
So, at the end of 96 he gave me a short demo tape, with All I need is to
be... and then Easy body on the Rocks.... Circuital Digit!!!
(I love that song....! ) Everything is wrong today.... 'Touch me" (again
'NEED' some more, not want more, no NEED MORE!)
Followed by Into the Blue,
then i was sold... ofcourse i know there are 22 different versions of Into
the Blue, and I have only 4,
but send them in, i want to have them ALL....that song digs deep into me....
very deep.... I like all versions so far...
well a few months later i went to the store to listen to A.R. anyway,
I shouted already the first time i heard it, whole personel got upset.... I
asked if they could turn it up louder, but they couldnt...
whole headphones burnt down.... Come On Baby!
The fact that i had fallen in love just before i boutght AR has anything to
do with it, or the other way around? I fell in love because AR gave the
feeling I was ALIVE again! And Music had a FUTURE! And Moby showed that so
clear!
4 songs from AR are my all time fav's
Come on Baby
My Love will Never Die
Say it's all Mine
& Face it
So, the police called, and they made a proposition: NO MORE Animal Rights,
or we take the speakers away!
Then I shouted at them: "ALL rights are Animal Rights, p*gs!" Then they went
away...
Djeeee....did I play that loud!
Again a few months later i joined the List, and someone send me Daemons....!!!
I think Daemons is really a MASTERPiece - it's different from AR ofcourse,
but it is SO GOOD! I can play that every day!
I still don't have so much...
I still NEED to have MORE!
Move is also very favorite of mine...
(it makes me feel SO good!)
now i'm going to apply for a job, wish me luck, 8-)
frankz,
but not _the_
- ----------------------
Logic: the one thing that counts
http://home.wxs.nl/~til00003/
- -------------------------------------------k-e-e-s---
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Date: Wed, 18 Feb 1998 01:00:57 +0000
From: Mark Reed <mar@markgenius1.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Re: Sampling (Utah Saints)
In message <34E8C4B0.6732A44D@osf1.gmu.edu>, "Jose M. Cordoba"
<jcordob1@osf1.gmu.edu> writes
>UTAH SAINTS!! My other favorite group! Here's what I know:
according to a net source the Utah Saints have completed a new album
called "Wired World" that will be released in the next few months. They
also played a set in bristol in April 95 consisting of all-new material.
- --
Mark Reed
------------------------------
Date: Wed, 18 Feb 1998 09:07:19 -0600
From: Keith Forsythe <keith@winslow.net66.net>
Subject: (mobility) Orbital sniv
I love sniv.
I think it is one of the coolest and most creative electronic record ever
produced. I have listened to that album many a nights on trips to home
from college and have really come to appreciate it subtle genius. Their
first album is definitely worth getting since the classic track satan is on
there along with a remix from moby called speed freak. In sides is great
too. The box, what a cool song. I recommend getting the satan single with
satan live. It has an insides track on it that rocks live. By the way, go
see them live. They don't move much, but the way they performed made me
feel like i was tripping.
At 11:07 PM 2/17/98 -0700, you wrote:
>danperry@execpc.com wrote:
>> walnut is an extremely passionate song, to me. it's _so_full_ of
emotion...
>> that dog must have meant a _lot_ to moby... it's possibly my favorite.
>
>Agreed! "Walnut" and "The Blue Terror of Lawns" are great tracks from
>Little Idiot. So he had a dog named Walnut?
>
>I really like Moby's Instinct-era techno generally more than his
>also-good-but-different newer stuff. "Next Is The E" I Feel It
>and Victory mixes were among the first tracks to introduce me to
>the awesome musical world of Moby. One might say I was 'moved'
>when I heard them.
>
>"Move (You Make Me Feel So Good)" is IMHO one of the best Moby songs
>ever. I'm talking about the full 12" mix, not the slaughtered radio
>edit that they included on the CDs. Other remixes of "Move" are also
>quite good, most notably the Sub Version and the Electro Mix.
>
>"All That I Need Is To Be Loved (MV)" is possibly my all-time favorite
>Moby track. It is very powerful, emotional, technological, and
>beautiful -- the peak of Moby's techno. There are two rare hardtrance
>remixes of it (one of which is on the EIW remix double CD) that are
>also awesome. The House of Suffering Mix, which was included on EIW,
>is very different and doesn't do anything for me.
>
>Also, I like the "Hymn" remixes very much. They usually don't 'move'
>me as much as the aforementioned songs, but I think they're wonderful
>and I spent a lot of time and money collecting them all. It was
>worth it.
>
>Actually, I see that I could go on listing other great Moby tracks,
>such as the "Into The Blue" remixes, Voodoo Child material, and
>superb remixes of other artists including Eskimos & Egypt, Pet Shop
>Boys, Brian Eno, Erasure, etc. but then I might end up including a
>a large percentage of his prolific works in my tip-top-best-of-Moby
>list, which seems to be too long already... so I'll shut up now. ;)
>
>> as for orbital, in sides is incredible... it's my only album besides
>> snivilisation (which most agree isn't very good), but all the singles
>> i've heard on AMP are _terrific_.
>
>I actually like Snivilisation. I got the impression from people on
>the Orbital mailing list that it's a really bad album, but when I
>just had to get my Orbital fix and there was nowhere else to go, I
>bought it. I'm glad to be among the small fraction of Orbital fans
>that really likes it.
>
>Dan
>
>
>
Keith Forsythe
keith@net66.com
kbforsyt@uiuc.edu
------------------------------
Date: Wed, 18 Feb 1998 09:19:59 -0600
From: Keith Forsythe <keith@winslow.net66.net>
Subject: Re: (mobility) voodoo child
So would I, but end of everything sure is great to study to.
At 06:35 PM 2/16/98 EST, you wrote:
>I'm wondering why Moby put out such a mellow album as V.C.? all the other
V.C.
>stuff is sooo hard! Its like the old school part of him. I really would love
>to hear more harder techno from Moby soon. By the way, the song in the
credits
>of Double Tap is very very similar to Dark.
>
>dj tripp
>
>
>
Keith Forsythe
keith@net66.com
kbforsyt@uiuc.edu
------------------------------
Date: Wed, 18 Feb 1998 09:35:50 -0600
From: Keith Forsythe <keith@winslow.net66.net>
Subject: (mobility) stuff i like
Westbam remix of FSR - My introduction to Moby came from hearing this song
at a bar/club here at school. What caught my attention was interlude with
only the strings, well synth strings.
Go subliminal mix - Groovy video.
Hymn This is my dream - I first heard this song on the video for it on the
Moby CD-ROM. Cool video, cooler song.
Next is the E - My favorite. The long mix that he plays live, and I
believe track 4 or 5 on the single, is by far the best.
Drug fits the face - I have always wanted to here that live
Party Time - I think thats the name of it.
of course Move
of course every time you touch me there
Revolver remix track 1, I love it. Excellent build up.
Come on baby, well come on Moby.
Keith Forsythe
keith@net66.com
kbforsyt@uiuc.edu
------------------------------
Date: Wed, 18 Feb 98 11:08:26 -0600
From: "John Heininger" <John.J.Heininger-1@tc.umn.edu>
Subject: (mobility) Re: move me
ok he"ll say something.
angry johnny was immensely moved by the following songs...
feeling so real (westbam mix). johnny had just started listening to moby
when he was sitting in the back seat of this car driving around aimlessly
in this hell hole known as st. paul. well like this kid was playing a mix
tape by polter (jungle vibe collective baby!) when the song started to be
mixed in, well johnny had never heard such a power song like that and for
those few minutes no else exsisted.
when its cold id like to die. duh. angry johnny almost was almost no
longer because this song made him so sad. angry johnny sat in a bathtub
holding a hair dryer ready to turn it on and drop it in the water. well 2
hours went by and he started to feel kinda stupid
hymn(alt.queit) and the 20 min song at the end of the little idiot cd. on
a hot night he sits by como lake with these songs playin on his hedfones
watchin the pretty boys and grrrls walk by. angry johnny gets pissed so he
lites up a doobie
angry johnny done
------------------------------
Date: Wed, 18 Feb 1998 15:20:26 EST
From: KCMobyFan@aol.com
Subject: (mobility) Move-ing
Moby stuff that moves me:
Everytime You Touch Me (Pure Joy Mix):
This song is so happy and it sounds great in "Mixed & Remixed" with Feeling
So Real (Westbam Mix). I know loads of people hate that sort of repetitive
vocals in songs but I think Moby does it so well.
Come On Baby / Come On Baby (Eskimos & Egypt 7" Mix)
Really angry and emotional I love it. I saw Moby do this on TOTP on TV when
he had "Porn Star" or soething like that on his chest and I thought it was
cool. Brilliant song.
Anthem
The best track from Everything Is Wrong, I like all his techno stuff.
Unloved Sympathy
Scary
Anyway that's what I like-
KeithC.
------------------------------
Date: Wed, 18 Feb 1998 15:58:37 EST
From: NoFxOi7@aol.com
Subject: Re: (mobility) Move-ing
do you think you could send me a wav file on that angry and emotinal song to
me
thanks
- -domanation-
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Date: Wed, 18 Feb 1998 14:39:02 -0800 (PST)
From: Paul Simpson <techno_gpig@yahoo.com>
Subject: (mobility) songs that move me, my tape, remixes, other random stuff
Hey Moby Monks (or monkeys...)
Personally, every Moby song moves me. Moby is one of the few artists
I've heard where every one of his songs has the power to move you.
All of his music will soothe the savage beast. God moving... Is
definitely moving. I also like Next Is the E (even though I've only
heard 2 mixes of it, any mix of that song would be good), Mobility
(Aqua mix on rare), all the classical/ambient songs I've heard, pretty
much anything by him can move me. Even the Schoolhouse Rock song can
move me to an extent. Some other artists that really move me like him
are Orbital, Goldie (the song Letter of Fate on his new cd
particularly, I've heard it once, but it's awesome, and its
autobiographical, he really means it), and Aphex's "I Care Because You
DO" (I don't have any of his early stuff.)
I just finished recording my first tape yesterday. I think I'm going
to use the name "DJ Shapeshifter". I'm not sure what to call it
though. It's a pretty nice mix of techno songs, ambient songs, noise
songs, sound collages (hilarious sound collages I might add), songs I
recorded with my kid siblings, stuff like that. It sounds pretty good
for a tape recorded on a Casio, with a boombox or a $40 Sony tape
recorder my mom bought me for Hannukah recently. Some of the songs on
that tape really move me (particularly "Die or Jump Off", "Poetry" and
"Hold".
I just don't know what to call it. I was thinking about something like
"Front 242 VS. Pizzicato 5" (hmmm... that equals Weird Jumbled Mess Of
Music 247...Just like my favorite radio station, WPKN!!!
<http://www.wpkn.org/wpkn/> )
I have a whole word bank of titles on my other computer, but none of
'em ever seem to fit the songs I make...well, please e-mail me
off-list if you have a title for my tape, or if you want to know more
about it, or if you want a copy...I really want other people to hear
my music, just to hear what they think about it...doesn't everyone?
One last thing...yesterday I was listening to a tape of stuff I taped
off the radio (including live Chem.Bros., live Orbital (no Halcyon,
though, but a killer version of Satan...), and That's When I Reach...
by you-know-who)...I pressed play the second it turned 8:15 pm, and
the second it clicked at the end of the tape, it was
9:02...weird...what's weirder is that clock (a digital alarm clock) is
always 5 minutes behind every other clock in the house, even when I
add 10 minutes... weird..
I just thought of something...instead of a compilation (or maybe boxed
set)of Moby's remixes, maybe all the bands he remixed should remix a
song of his...of course that would be hard, they'd have to get Michael
Jackson to do a remix...
okay, I've been chewing too much fat, and I'm on a diet :-)
hey all you philosophers, listen to this!!!
"HAKUNA MATATA, WHAT A WONDERFUL PHRASE!!!
...IT'S OUR PROBLEM FREE PHILOSOPHY!!! (the lion king, duh)
==
Adios Amigos,
~~PAUL~~
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