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From: owner-mobility-digest@lists.xmission.com (mobility-digest)
To: mobility-digest@lists.xmission.com
Subject: mobility-digest V1 #82
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mobility-digest Tuesday, February 10 1998 Volume 01 : Number 082
(mobility) re:puffy
(mobility) that show review someone sent...
(mobility) Puffy
(mobility) lyrics
Re: (mobility) Puffy
Re: (mobility) Puffy
Re: (mobility) Puffalupakis
(mobility) Hello and Re
(mobility) hey!! this doesnt involve puffy, whoohoo. fatboy slim is in here tho
(mobility) Re: mobility-digest V1 #81
(mobility) Re: mobility-digest V1 #81
(mobility) THE END OF PUFFY
Re: (mobility) hey!! this doesnt involve puffy, whoohoo. fatboy slim is in here tho
Re: (mobility) Bran Van
Re: (mobility) hey!! this doesnt involve puffy, whoohoo. fatboy slim is in here tho
Re: (mobility) hey!! this doesnt involve puffy, whoohoo. fatboy slim is in her
Re: (mobility) hey!! this doesnt involve puffy, whoohoo. fatboy slim is in her
Re: (mobility) hey!! this doesnt involve
[none]
(mobility) an actual moby question!
(mobility) re: james bond
(mobility) Howdy
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Date: Mon, 09 Feb 1998 16:05:58 PST
From: "Evil Ninja" <ninfan87@hotmail.com>
Subject: (mobility) re:puffy
whooo!!!!
i finially got done deleting those puffy spams they were really boring
i joined this list to talk about moby but i haven't had time yet.
evil ninja
ninfan87@hotmail.com
i shouldn't go
but you are
wrenching dragging
shakine me
turn off the
sun pull
the stars
from the sky
-nin-
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Date: Mon, 9 Feb 1998 14:37:27 -0800 (PST)
From: Paul Simpson <techno_gpig@yahoo.com>
Subject: (mobility) that show review someone sent...
About that show review someone sent...
Has anyone else here heard of Bran Van 3000? I only know 1 song by
them (Drinking in L.A.) but I think it's da bomb...
IMHO they kind of sound like a canadian version of Beck... it's mostly
1 guy that makes all the music, with a bunch of back-up singers, kinda
like OMC or something...
The album is kalled "Glee" and in the U.S. it's on Audiogram records.
correct me if i'm wrong which I probably am...this is what I've heard
from the January 1998 CMJ magazine, the song "Drinking..." is on
it...oh, I heard that song on the radio recently, and I saw the video
on Muchmusic, which is Canada's version of MTV....
And about Kottonmouth Kings: Acoording to my local modern rock
station, they are nothing but a poor man's Beastie Boys, that pretty
much says it...
"As I say this to you tonight, let us not forget, there is hope..."
(sorry I have that song stuck in my hed, MTV plays it a LOT lately...)
k bye....
"I was normal once. I didn't like it."
"Where I come from there are men with big, loud voices, You'd never
make it there!!!!"
==
>>>>>>>>>>>PAUL<<<<<<<<<<<<
"If you lived here, you'd be home right now!!!"
_________________________________________________________
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Date: Mon, 9 Feb 1998 19:34:56 EST
From: EvilNinja2@aol.com
Subject: (mobility) Puffy
The Best thing about all this anti-puffy businees is that if Moby remixed a
song of his you'd all run out and buy it and say it was a great move for moby
to enter even more mainsteam.
dj tripp
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Date: Mon, 9 Feb 1998 18:17:12 -0800 (PST)
From: anthony alznauer <notthetiger@rocketmail.com>
Subject: (mobility) lyrics
I agree with Ryu. Politically/Ideologically charged
music puts itself in a box. Look at Christian music,
(i grew up listening to it) over the years the
message has gotten so "important" Christians stopped
caring if the music was any good and it got worse. In
terms of Moby i'd hate to see the day that people
lose focus on the music and the raw emotion and
beauty of God Moving... because they are too busy
agreeing/not agreeing with which God... add info
about his political beliefs etc and it gets even
worse. Moby's music is about emotion, energy, love
etc. He'll never need to say anything about it for me
to get the message.
- -bulb naked
_________________________________________________________
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------------------------------
Date: Mon, 09 Feb 1998 19:25:20 -0700
From: Damian <damian@xmission.com>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Puffy
EvilNinja2@aol.com wrote:
>
> The Best thing about all this anti-puffy businees is that if Moby remixed a
> song of his you'd all run out and buy it and say it was a great move for moby
> to enter even more mainsteam.
Getting cynical now aren't we? I for one would run out & buy it just to
see how twisted Moby could make it. :)
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Date: Mon, 9 Feb 1998 22:36:27 -0600
From: "Brad Caviness" <bigwig@arkansas.net>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Puffy
- -----Original Message-----
>EvilNinja2@aol.com wrote:
>>
>> The Best thing about all this anti-puffy businees is that if Moby remixed
a
>> song of his you'd all run out and buy it and say it was a great move for
moby
>> to enter even more mainsteam.
>
To which Damian replied:
>Getting cynical now aren't we? I for one would run out & buy it just to
>see how twisted Moby could make it. :)
>
And now I'm adding:
Anyone who's heard Moby's "Babyface" take on Metallica's "Until It Sleeps
(Herman Mellville Mix)" would know this to be true. He'd make Puffy punk
rawk or death metal.
BSC
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Date: Tue, 10 Feb 1998 00:00:46 -0500
From: "Eric M. Goldberg" <gold@netrox.net>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Puffalupakis
Speak for yourself Mr. Tripp.
I dont think it would be a great move for Moby, it'd be a blessing for
Puffy instead...
Though the funny thing that happened today was I heard someone blasting
their puff song, and well I couldnt go uncontested so I countered with a
nice blast of voodoo child!
BAM! eat original music, mr. driver next to me!
Thank you and have a puff of a day.
Eric
At 07:34 PM 2/9/98 -0500, you wrote:
>The Best thing about all this anti-puffy businees is that if Moby remixed a
>song of his you'd all run out and buy it and say it was a great move for moby
>to enter even more mainsteam.
>
>dj tripp
>
"There are only two kinds of music. Good and the other kind."
-Duke Ellington-
Eric M. Goldberg
gold@netrox.net
http://www.netrox.net/~gold/
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 10 Feb 1998 00:02:58 EST
From: Pazifistin@aol.com
Subject: (mobility) Hello and Re
*are you gals and guys happy with the things moby writes about in his lyrics?
*i mean, the lyrics alone? wouldn't it be nice if he'd implement some of his
*attitude from his essays into his lyrics? i love his love anguish and
personal *pain, but i want to hear him attack ideology!!!!
Well, as this is my first post I will intro myself first.
name= Kris Tiles
age=21
collection= small but good
why Moby?= I got into him a few years back, mainly it was the essays that
sucked me in. I had a chance to see him live in Germany last year, and it
was absolutly the best concert I've ever been to. It was in a small club
and very personal. Saw him again in Milwaukee a few months ago.
other musicians= pretty much everything depending on mood.
most recently, shelter, into another, david bowie...
about myself= i'm a professional student at WI. I live for music, and I'm
sure you can relate when I say I can't live without it. I have been
vegetarian for 7 years and vegan for one. More to come, I guess...
So, in response to the message above. I agree. I think Moby has reached a
stage in his life where his fans respect what he stands for, and he should use
his voice to educate. If you listen to Moby and don't involve yourself in
what he has to say, then it is not Moby that you like so much it is just the
music. That's fine, but in my heart I believe that Moby hasn't come all this
way just to have some kids following him around for what comes out of his
keyboard.
- -kat :)
"It's better to light one candle than to add to the darkness." - Howard Lymon
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 9 Feb 1998 21:44:30 -0800
From: "cm (matt)" <jbormet@teleport.com>
Subject: (mobility) hey!! this doesnt involve puffy, whoohoo. fatboy slim is in here tho
alright, since everybody is talking about people using moby's stuff and
remaking it, (i wont mention mr. daddy),
did anyone check fatboy slim on fashionably loud on mtv? i thought i was
hearing things at first, but it turns out he used samples from
negativland's 'michael jackson' on the escape from noise cd(which is soo
cool). this sounded really cool.
anyways, to add some moby content, i guess this shows that old songs can be
redone well. sometimes. but puffy? man, all his songs are inferior to
the originals. and remember that crappy ska cover of come on eileen that
came out a while ago? the dexy's midnite runners original version was so
much better.
so, covers can be ok. or something like that.
cm(matt)
matt@speed-racer.com
no LIVE NUDE GIRLS! here: www.teleport.com/~jbormet
"Conformity is the jailer of freedom and the enemy of growth."
JFK (1917-63)
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 9 Feb 1998 22:47:13 -0700
From: Dan Legare <danny@nettwerk.com>
Subject: (mobility) Re: mobility-digest V1 #81
>
>
>* Where you first heard Moby, and how much of a fan you are
>
>i heard hymm and feeling so real back to back when listening to everything
>is wrong.
>i think he is brilliant, his literature at bit extremist-but i do agree
>with him. to a point. the fact that he is into so many different types of
>music, almost a chameleon, yet he holds strong to his ideals in such a
>mechanical enviroment.
actually-i just remembered hearing 'thousand' in between sets at a jesus
jones/stereo mcs show. we all thought the speakers blew. and then....
Dan Legare
Nettwerk Mail Order Department
danny@nettwerk.com
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Nettwerk Productions-Box 330 1755 Robson St. Vancouver, BC V6G 2B5
PH-604.654.2929 FX-604.654.1993 Email-info@nettwerk.com
http://www.nettwerk.com
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Date: Mon, 9 Feb 1998 22:40:36 -0700
From: Dan Legare <danny@nettwerk.com>
Subject: (mobility) Re: mobility-digest V1 #81
just doing the night-shift thing...
any moby concert info to pass along to a canuck?
has he ever played canada? he must've.
does moby actually ever read this?
Dan Legare
Nettwerk Mail Order Department
danny@nettwerk.com
- -------------------------------------------------------------------
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PH-604.654.2929 FX-604.654.1993 Email-info@nettwerk.com
http://www.nettwerk.com
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 10 Feb 1998 08:14:15 -0500
From: Todd Huss <toddhuss@mindless.com>
Subject: (mobility) THE END OF PUFFY
All right, a lurker is finally getting incensed enough to surface.
I'm suprised at the amount of petty squabling that's arising over Puffy. =
And some people seem genuinely willing to put it to a rest, while some =
of you refuse to let the subject be changed. In fact, some of you =
appear to be trying to enlarge the argument to encompass even more and =
inspire endless debate. =20
I hope the following makes sense:
I'm suprised at how quickly many people that I THOUGHT would have been =
openminded (being Moby fans) are jumping at the opportunity to slam Puff =
Daddy. I personally don't like him, but I don't think he "sucks," or =
his music "sucks." I just don't personally like him. =20
I don't understand how anyone can define any artistic endeavor as "not =
good" or "it sucks," (as most of you so delicately put it,) when you =
don't like the artist or style to begin with. Wouldn't the accurate =
statement be, "I didn't like it?" Who is anyone to determine the value =
of any piece of art? In my opinion, the value of art is determined by =
its personal effect on the observer. As long as any song, painting, =
etc. inspires emotions in at least ONE person, then it is a "good" piece =
of art. But just because you don't like it, that doesn't mean that the =
art should be devalued.
Picture a total metal-head coming up, listening to God Moving Over the =
Face of the Waters or Living. "This sucks," he mutters and walks away. =
I rest my case.
Todd "the Rain King" Huss
toddhuss@mindless.com
PS Now if any of you would like to continue this debate, my email is =
listed above. You are welcome to flame me there. (NOT to the list.)
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 10 Feb 1998 09:35:06 -0600 (CST)
From: theShackofXaq <zbentz@d.umn.edu>
Subject: Re: (mobility) hey!! this doesnt involve puffy, whoohoo. fatboy slim is in here tho
On Mon, 9 Feb 1998, cm (matt) wrote:
> alright, since everybody is talking about people using moby's stuff and
> remaking it, (i wont mention mr. daddy),
> did anyone check fatboy slim on fashionably loud on mtv? i thought i was
> hearing things at first, but it turns out he used samples from
> negativland's 'michael jackson' on the escape from noise cd(which is soo
> cool). this sounded really cool.
ya know what sucks? the fact that, on ALL the adverts for "FL," they
NEVER mentioned fatboy slim, and he is BY FAR the most talented person on
the entire show. once again, MTV shows its true face and bites itself in
the ass. every notice how they play really cool stuff during the news
clips and other stories, but would NEVER show a real d&b video?
or a moby video that didn't have a guitar in it.
i hate MTV.
- -xaq-
"People have power not only depending on how much they know, but also what
they are prepared to find out!" alec empire
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 10 Feb 1998 10:45:33 -0800
From: "Rekkit" <rekkit@spectranet.ca>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Bran Van
>Has anyone else here heard of Bran Van 3000? I only know 1 song by
>them (Drinking in L.A.) but I think it's da bomb...
To start out with a Moby related post-Bran Van actually thanks Moby in the
liner notes of their album...It's not a bad disc really, they do an
interesting cover of "Cum On Feel The Noise", and some nifty little
electronic ditties....
- -------------------------------------------------------------------
Death In Vegas: The Unofficial Page:
http://www.spectranet.ca/~rekkit/index.htm
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 10 Feb 1998 11:22:17 -0500
From: "William Turner Spencer Iii" <spencw@rpi.edu>
Subject: Re: (mobility) hey!! this doesnt involve puffy, whoohoo. fatboy slim is in here tho
mtv is dumb
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 10 Feb 1998 11:40:14 EST
From: SpeakNeasy@aol.com
Subject: Re: (mobility) hey!! this doesnt involve puffy, whoohoo. fatboy slim is in her
I agree MTV sucks
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 10 Feb 1998 12:28:38 -0500 (EST)
From: Marjorana Karathanasis <marjorana.karathanasis@yale.edu>
Subject: Re: (mobility) hey!! this doesnt involve puffy, whoohoo. fatboy slim is in her
On Tue, 10 Feb 1998 SpeakNeasy@aol.com wrote:
> I agree MTV sucks
>
Can we stop with the slamming already? I see the same debate about puffy
rehashing in the form of MTV...
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 10 Feb 1998 19:55:44 +0200 (EET)
From: Samu Heinonen <samuhei@dlc.fi>
Subject: Re: (mobility) hey!! this doesnt involve
On Tuesday, February 10, 1998 12:28:38 you wrote:
>
>On Tue, 10 Feb 1998 SpeakNeasy@aol.com wrote:
>> I agree MTV sucks
>>
>Can we stop with the slamming already? I see the same debate about
puffy
>rehashing in the form of MTV...
>
>
>
>
>
this list was good , but now, almost every mail is crap. I dont want to
read some dummy "puff daddy" mails from Moby discussion list and btw
everyone knows that Puffy sucks. And please dont send some fucking "mtv
sucks" mails to this list. it's so boring to read those. This list was
and it still is sometimes great way to found out about Moby's future
things, let's all keep it like it was.
|********************************|
| Samu Heinonen (samuhei@dlc.fi) |
| www.dlc.fi/~samuhei |
| -Coffee is poison (-Moby) |
|********************************|
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 10 Feb 1998 13:31:01 -0500 (EST)
From: Little Drummer Boy <rfairbai@mbhs.edu>
Subject: [none]
i agree that too much discussion of off-topic stuff has been going on
here...
I would like to suggest that it is perfectly reasonable for something off
topic to ARISE from something relevant to Moby. However, if someone
wishes to continue discussion, why can't they just write to the other
people who mention it as well? I understand that a few messages must come
up on the list first, but once it is understood that a large number of the
readers are fed up with the topic, please be kind and discuss it outside
the confines of the list. Puffy and MTV would be perfect examples of
something to try this with.
Thank you for taking the time to read this, and i hope it helps.
****************************************************************
Your parents always told you: | What they meant was:
|
Early to bed, | Early to rise,
Early to rise, | Early to bed,
Makes a man healthy, | Makes a man healthy,
Wealthy, and wise. | But socially dead.
REMEMBER THESE WORDS
****************************************************************
"We must be careful to never try so hard for something that we
forget what it is that we are trying for."
Little Drummer Boy
rfairbai@mbhs.edu
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 10 Feb 1998 12:43:19 -0600 (CST)
From: DAVIESA@uwplatt.edu
Subject: (mobility) an actual moby question!
has anyone heard of what moby's first single will be off his new album to be
released some time this year? i was just curious. i also was wondering if
anyone out there has an extra copy of the aussie release of Jmaes Bond Theme?
andy
gingerbread man
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 10 Feb 1998 13:44:48 -0500 (EST)
From: erik selke <selke@tcimet.net>
Subject: (mobility) re: james bond
I don't have an extra copy, but I have seen it listed on numerous online
CD stores... so if you feel safe using those...
erik
erik@brainwashed.com selke@tcimet.net
One Percent: http://www.mokum.pair.com/one_percent/
Something About Incoherency http://mets.tcimet.net/~selke/
"Its O.K. to show a man getting his balls kicked on T.V.
But not O.K. to show him getting his balls stroked"
"We can tell when people are lying... Their lips move"
On Tue, 10 Feb 1998 DAVIESA@uwplatt.edu wrote:
> has anyone heard of what moby's first single will be off his new album to be
> released some time this year? i was just curious. i also was wondering if
> anyone out there has an extra copy of the aussie release of Jmaes Bond Theme?
>
> andy
>
> gingerbread man
>
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 10 Feb 1998 13:50:44 EST
From: Filthy27@aol.com
Subject: (mobility) Howdy
Hey People....I am a new member and was told to introduce myself, so, here we
go...
My name is Fil and I am from Chicago....I am 19 and have everything except
Animal Rights in my Moby Collection.....I got into Moby years ago and have
Lvoed his music since, despite all the 90 degree turns he has taken....I just
recently saw him perform in Minnesota and man, I gain a greater appreciation
for his style with just one performance....I'd hate to say that I am his
biggest fan, since I am sure that there are bigger Moby nuts out there than
me, but I would like to say that I am up there.....I live, breathe, poop
Moby....I compose Techno independantly and Moby, along with other ambient and
undergroud hardcore groups, are my main influences....Other artists I listen
to range from old alternative from the 90's to UK trance techno.....if there
is one thing in the music Biz that I hate.....it is COUNTRY!!!!!! other than
that, I am pretty kewl with most music.....um.....I think I finished answering
all of the questions.....I am looking foward to hearing all the little goodies
about Moby.....later all
Fil
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