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From: mobility-owner@xmission.com (mobility Digest)
To: mobility-digest@xmission.com
Subject: mobility Digest V1 #26
Reply-To: mobility@xmission.com
Sender: mobility-owner@xmission.com
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Precedence:
mobility Digest Saturday, April 5 1997 Volume 01 : Number 026
In this issue:
Re: (mobility) spoken word
Re: (mobility) hardcore?
(mobility) Moby article in a magazine.
(mobility) AOL CHAT on my page
Re: (mobility) hardcore?
Re: (mobility) Joy Electric!
Re: (mobility) hardcore?
Re: (mobility) hardcore?
Re: (mobility) hardcore?
(mobility) Moby Midis - Heat Mix
(mobility) 1979 moby remix mp3
(mobility) More "Techno" in the "news"
(mobility) Punctuation, kids! Punctuation!
Re: (mobility) hardcore?
Re: (mobility) Moby Midis - Heat Mix
Re: (mobility) More "Techno" in the "news"
Re: (mobility) Punctuation, kids! Punctuation!
Re: (mobility) Punctuation, kids! Punctuation!
(mobility) album o' the year?
Re: (mobility) Punctuation, kids! Punctuation! and spelling too.
(mobility) A Moby Interview
Re: (mobility) Joy Electric!
(mobility) woah!
Re: (mobility) album o' the year?
Re: (mobility) Joy Electric!
Re: (mobility) album o' the year?
Re: (mobility) album o' the year?
Re: (mobility) album o' the year?
Re: (mobility) spoken word
Re: (mobility) album o' the year?
Re: (mobility) spoken word
(mobility) rare Moby on MPEG3
Re: (mobility) album o' the year?
Re: (mobility) album o' the year?
Re: (mobility) album o' the year?
RE: (mobility) rare Moby on MPEG3
See the end of the digest for information on subscribing to the mobility
or mobility-digest mailing lists and on how to retrieve back issues.
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Date: Fri, 4 Apr 1997 22:13:53 -0500 (EST)
From: Anuranman <ryu97@twd.net>
Subject: Re: (mobility) spoken word
i think that moby could pull of a spoken word tour.
he may seem really modest and quiet, but on stage, he's
like a giant tornado of nrg. i believe that he could harness
the nrg of his music into written word and perform it with
the same amount of gusto and be successful with it!
if nothing else, i'd like to see him write a book of essays or
poems. or maybe a novel, if he's into that too.
another thought: i really liked the photos on the inside of
AR. it would also be cool to see a photography book by moby.
love,
ryu
99999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999
"Noise is the Key, life is full of noise, only
death is quiet."
"Personally, I don't take any drugs and have
never tried any and therefore perhaps have an
odd opinion about them; a man must destroy
himself before he is destroyed by the system!"
-Alec Empire-
77777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777
Ryu * ryu97@twd.net * 814-238-3171
IowotflaichiNoromDreamboyCipherStoicDonQuixoteJonZ
------------------------------
Date: Fri, 4 Apr 1997 22:19:42 -0500 (EST)
From: Anuranman <ryu97@twd.net>
Subject: Re: (mobility) hardcore?
At 06:48 PM 4/4/97 -0500, you wrote:
>what in hades is all this talk about hardcore? in my days as a hardcore
>boy, hardcore has lotsa shaved heads, lotsa heavy chugging guitars, and
>really gutteral screaming/growling/belching vocals, preaching different
>things depending on which band youre talking about. is there ANOTHER
>hardcore movement?
"hardcore" is a pretty arbitrary word.
xaq was originally referring to the hardcore rave scene. this is totally
different than the old hardcore punk scene. moby's "thousand"
and "ul he fu" would
be considered hardcore techno...even though they are a bit old.
and to answer xaq's question, the reason i think that the media ignores
the hardcore techno scene is becuase there is no financial gain in it.
you can't sell 200 bpm speedcore gabba to a junior high kid, but my
grandpa can get into the chemical brothers.
love,
ryu
99999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999
"Noise is the Key, life is full of noise, only
death is quiet."
"Personally, I don't take any drugs and have
never tried any and therefore perhaps have an
odd opinion about them; a man must destroy
himself before he is destroyed by the system!"
-Alec Empire-
77777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777
Ryu * ryu97@twd.net * 814-238-3171
IowotflaichiNoromDreamboyCipherStoicDonQuixoteJonZ
------------------------------
Date: Fri, 4 Apr 1997 20:17:47 -0800
From: Shaun Rader <srader@uci.edu>
Subject: (mobility) Moby article in a magazine.
I don't know if anyone has mentioned this yet, but I'll do it just in case. I
saw an article in an issue of AP with Moby in it. I believe it was called
Moby vs. Danzig. I just had time to read one line in the dialog between
Moby and Danzig. I consisted of Danzig stating that he didn't believe in
god... I THINK it was AP magazine..
Shaun
------------------------------
Date: Sat, 05 Apr 1997 01:10:13 EST
From: babylemonade67@juno.com (J J j)
Subject: (mobility) AOL CHAT on my page
I have the Moby AOL Chat transcript on my page (the address is under my
name on the bottom of this message) You can either read it off my page
or download it from my page. While you are at it drop me a note about
your opinion of my page. There is not a ton of Moby stuff but there is
some veggie things that might also be of interest.
thanks,
James C.
BABY LEMONADE: http://members.aol.com/DALI67/babylemonade.html
PETA: http://www.envirolink.org/arrs/PETA/
Love all sentient creatures, whether they be animal or man, and always be
truthful to yourself and others.
------------------------------
Date: Sat, 05 Apr 1997 01:22:22 -0500
From: Sinjin <Sinjin089@dbeach.com>
Subject: Re: (mobility) hardcore?
dude are you on smack or do you just enjoy pulling arguments out of thin
air? what on earth are you talking about? at what point have i professed
drug use? is it generalizing for someone who was very much at the heart
of something to describe what was going on in honest terms? at what
point did i advocate self destruction of anyone? what gives you the
right to play God and talk down to me? put down the pipe and shut the
hell up.
Sinjin
------------------------------
Date: Sat, 05 Apr 1997 01:24:32 -0500
From: Sinjin <Sinjin089@dbeach.com>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Joy Electric!
afraid i have to object on the grounds of happy stuff being a good
thing. im a bit tired of listening to FLA bitch about the machines
taking over the world. ive got problems. i like to hear something
nostalgic and relieving. but if sad is yer game, have you heard the
title track from 5 stars for failure? beautiful stuff. and i dont think
jason has a dark bone in his body. him and ronnie are VERY alike. :)
Sinjin
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Date: Sat, 05 Apr 1997 01:27:38 -0500
From: Sinjin <Sinjin089@dbeach.com>
Subject: Re: (mobility) hardcore?
generalization? GENERALIZATION? why dont you go ask snap case or orange
9mm what kind of music they play. theyll both answer "hardcore." ask the
straight-edge kids at a strongarm show what kind of music theyre there
for. theyll answer "hardcore." its not a generalization. its a term
applying to a very broad grouping that calls THEMSELVES hardcore.
Sinjin
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Date: Sat, 05 Apr 1997 01:29:24 -0500
From: Sinjin <Sinjin089@dbeach.com>
Subject: Re: (mobility) hardcore?
ok lets clarify things so Banzai Boy cant get his jollies by flaming me.
some one please, in specific, descriptive terms, tell me about hardcore
techno.
Sinjin
------------------------------
Date: Sat, 05 Apr 1997 01:48:47 -0500
From: Matt Himes <mrh160@psu.edu>
Subject: Re: (mobility) hardcore?
At 01:29 AM 4/5/97 -0500, you wrote:
>ok lets clarify things so Banzai Boy cant get his jollies by flaming me.
>some one please, in specific, descriptive terms, tell me about hardcore
>techno.
>
>Sinjin
>
Easy, easy. Didn't you get the message yet where he apologized?
------------------------------
Date: Sat, 05 Apr 1997 02:22:50 -0600
From: "Eric M. Goldberg" <gold@bridge.net>
Subject: (mobility) Moby Midis - Heat Mix
In case you're really bored and feel like hearing moby come through your
soundcard or synth you can visit http://www.bridge.net/~gold/mb/mb.htm
and just visit the My Music Section..
Im not trying to advertise or anything, because I just tonight finished
sequencing the God Moving Over The Face Of The Waters - Heat Mix, and i
figured maybe someone would be bored :) and also thought i read that you
people were having trouble finding that single, so now you can hear it :)
just not as well..
Anyways go if you like, there are other moby midis there too, including the
original gmotfotw.. this mix is not perfect and is a wittle sloppy but its
better than nothing..
Well enough garble from me
Happy Daylight Savings Time!
Eric
- -
Eric M. Goldberg gold@bridge.net
Music Box Homepage http://www.bridge.net/~gold/mb/mb.htm
"There are only two kinds of music. Good and the other kind."
Duke Ellington
- -
------------------------------
Date: Sat, 05 Apr 1997 02:26:14 -0500
From: Matt Himes <mrh160@psu.edu>
Subject: (mobility) 1979 moby remix mp3
Hey kids,
I just found an mp3 file of Moby remix of the Pumkins' 1979 on an
ftp server full of mp3's. The quality is miserable (22 khz, 24 kb/s, yuck)
but is a copy of it, for those of whose who have never heard and don't know
how to get it otherwise. The web address is http://129.174.188.132/ . I
could also email it to anyone just wants it (it's only about 300k) or turn
on my ftp server if we really want to get complicated.
Tell me what you think.
Later,
Matt Himes
aka:
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Trey's Mechwarrior Niche-> http://www.ecsel.psu.edu/~mhimes/
Trey's Other Mechwarrior Niche-> http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/3527
------------------------------
Date: Sat, 5 Apr 1997 01:59:02 -0500
From: fishlips@ahbqs.com
Subject: (mobility) More "Techno" in the "news"
SO>SonicNet Sonic Boom: Your weekly dose of what's new at SonicNet
SO>and Addicted to Noise! April 4, 1997 (v 1.26)
SO>DOWN & DIRTY WITH THE CHEMICAL BROTHERS - You've been hearing all
SO>about this electronica stuff. Everyone says it's the next big thing. Now
SO>we sit down with the source. Two of the mainmen of this whole new techno
SO>thing. They're cool, they're funny, and you can check out samples of their
SO>music while you get some insight into what they're about.
SO>http://www.addict.com/html/hifi/Features/
I bet EVERYONE is gonna be rushing to that www addy ;>
Ryan
Fishlips@ahbqs.com
www.ahbqs.com/fishlips/mypage.htm
------------------------------
Date: Sat, 5 Apr 1997 09:47:04 -0500
From: joeclark@interlog.com (Joe Clark)
Subject: (mobility) Punctuation, kids! Punctuation!
>Date: Fri, 4 Apr 1997 17:07:39 -0500 (EST)
>From: Anuranman <ryu97@twd.net>
>Subject: (mobility) ambient
>
>i like ambient alot. a whole lot.
>since it was released before moby could finish it, it has a certain
>raw quality to it, and i'm attracted to that quality. not as good
>as the end of everything or little idiot, but good none the less.
Here we go with the punctuation problem again. ("Again," that is, after
suffering through it in a zillion other mailing lists. Worst offender: the
Pet Shop Boys list.)
Dear listmembers: Remember that song titles and album titles need to be set
off from the mass of undifferentiated ASCII text that is an E-mail for us
to understand what the eff-you-see-kay you're talking about. Did Anuranman
like ambient music a lot, or the album _Ambient_? Exactly what is not as
good as the end of everything? (Purgatory? You aren't looking forward to
the rapture?)
This is not a hairsplitting issue. go ahead and indulge in the
self-effacement of lowercase if you must. OR SCREAM, FOR ALL I CARE. But
for heaven's sake, use "s to surround song titles (don't use an acronym in
the first instance) and _s to surround album titles (ditto). It's just too
damn confusing to read otherwise.
The complaints from under-20-year-olds and/or AOLers, who never really
learned how to read and write, like, proper or whatever, are acknowledged
in advance. Even if it annoys you, possessing these skills is important,
and they are relevant even on informal music mailing lists.
And no, I rarely make typing mistakes mysel.f
Joe Clark
joeclark@interlog.com
<http://www.interlog.com/~joeclark>
------------------------------
Date: Sat, 05 Apr 1997 09:49:15 -0500
From: Sinjin <Sinjin089@dbeach.com>
Subject: Re: (mobility) hardcore?
yes and his idea of apology doesnt amuse me. now are you going to answer
me or do i have to remain ignorant?
Sinjin
------------------------------
Date: Sat, 05 Apr 1997 09:50:52 -0500
From: Sinjin <Sinjin089@dbeach.com>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby Midis - Heat Mix
wow...phat. :) wish i had a functional soundcard. <in general george s
patton, jr. voice> son youre quite a dedicated soldier and deserve to be
commended.
Sinjin
------------------------------
Date: Sat, 05 Apr 1997 09:55:23 -0500
From: Sinjin <Sinjin089@dbeach.com>
Subject: Re: (mobility) More "Techno" in the "news"
dont you love how the media is Y.M.'ing electronic music? :) "inside: 10
tips to make that vinyl spinning techno-babe yours! Quiz: Is your
Raver boy just using you for your X? Moby tells all! get the inside
scoop on his band, his bod, and how he wants you to look!" <snickering>
i think we're all in big, BIG trouble. :)
Sinjin
------------------------------
Date: Sat, 05 Apr 1997 09:57:31 -0500
From: Sinjin <Sinjin089@dbeach.com>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Punctuation, kids! Punctuation!
being an english major i reserve the right to type horrendously mif i so
choose. :) however in about 4 months when i have to make the jump to
music major, i suppose ill have to start typing immaculately to prove i
know the language. :) :) :)
Sinjin
------------------------------
Date: Sat, 05 Apr 1997 09:57:31 -0500
From: Sinjin <Sinjin089@dbeach.com>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Punctuation, kids! Punctuation!
being an english major i reserve the right to type horrendously mif i so
choose. :) however in about 4 months when i have to make the jump to
music major, i suppose ill have to start typing immaculately to prove i
know the language. :) :) :)
Sinjin
------------------------------
Date: Sat, 05 Apr 1997 10:00:10 -0500
From: Sinjin <Sinjin089@dbeach.com>
Subject: (mobility) album o' the year?
ok gang..were almost a third of the way thru the year and i dare say its
time to express a little opinion on the music thrown to us this year.
so, everyone all together now, what are your top 5 picks for album of
the year so far?
Rosencrantz and Sinjinstern are dead.
------------------------------
Date: Sat, 05 Apr 1997 07:25:09 -0800
From: keri schaeffer <kschaff@foothill.net>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Punctuation, kids! Punctuation! and spelling too.
Joe Clark wrote:
>Date: Fri, 4 Apr 1997 17:07:39 -0500 (EST)
>From: Anuranman <ryu97@twd.net>
>Subject: (mobility) ambient
>Go get them Joe! It appears that alot of people forget the ".You
should use a " when the subject,or title is not your own thought.
those nasty acronyms also suck.For everyone for whom english is not
their first language forget the previous thought. I have a hard time
in spanish with those tricky verbs. Just relax and enjoy.keri
------------------------------
Date: Sat, 05 Apr 1997 11:03:58 -0600
From: "Eric M. Goldberg" <gold@bridge.net>
Subject: (mobility) A Moby Interview
I was looking around today and stumbled upon this interview from the
retroactive baggage website. I havent even read it because frankly I don't
feel like reading right now, but for those of you here it is. Also they
had a picture of Moby with I guess his or just someone else's dog. So if
you want to see it or read the interview in its original form go to
http://www.baggage.co.uk/issue14/moby.html
And here is the interview, I know it might seem a bit long but some of you
have said that you don't have easy www access so here goes..
===========================================================================
Tony and Dave talk to Moby, who's not that mad or Christian or vegan really.
- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
Moby has always been one of the music scene's most interesting and diverse
characters, defying definition by veering between happy hardcore, ambient
soundscapes and industrial metal with apparent ease; but at this years
Reading Festival he still surprised many by delivering a straightforward
punk rock set, totally abandoning the sequencer in favour of loud guitars
from his new record "Animal Rights." Moby started out in guitar punk and
new wave bands before being caught up in the dance scene in the
mid-eighties; but is now growing bored with the dance scene just as the
mainstream appears to be catching on. Why has he moved back in this
direction exclusively?
"At first I tried to incorporate the two - punk rock music with the
electronic sounds of the sequencer - but I ended up sounding like Billy
Idol. Part of the joy of this is not being tied to a computer and
improvising, it's emancipating. I guess that at the time I just didn't feel
particularly eclectic! With "Everything Is Wrong" I was feeling a little
more open and wanted to represent all these different things that I was
interested in but lately, the only things I felt interested in are speed
metal and classical music." Moby talks with some disenchantment about the
contemporary dance scene: "I still like a lot of it - it's nice, but it
doesn't make the hairs on the back of my neck stick up."
Is that because he thinks there's less good dance music coming out or just
because he's been there, done that? "It's probably a combination of the
two. There's a marked lack of passion and intensity in electronic dance
music - it's more conservative and restrained on an emotional level. Now
it's a virtue to see how stylized and restrained you can make a record, as
opposed to 1991 when records were big huge booming fiascos. Today's dance
music is nice when you're waiting for a table in a restaurant but..." So
doesn't that make him want to come back and make that huge, uplifting
record for today? "Well, I tried with "Feeling So Real", which was my
statement of what I love about dance music, but the people who were
interested weren't the dance people. The dance community said it's just
cheesy happy hardcore - well, better emotional hardcore than cool,
'intelligent' techno."
Does this move away from technology partly reflect Moby's dislike for the
effects of modern lifestyles? "Everything we do in the late twentieth
century - in the context of the end of western civilisation, is going to be
hypocritical. It's hard to be a purist; the only way to be a purist
environmentalist is to kill yourself, really. At one level I love being
alive in the modern world, as it's interesting and fascinating; I don't
have a problem so much with technology as its applications. There are very
few things which are fundamentally evil." Despite this, Moby's song titles
("Everything is Wrong"/"The End of Everything" etc.) seem to demonstrate a
strong streak of pessimism with the world of today. "It's more
overwhelming, not so much pessimistic as depressed at the effects of modern
institutions on human beings, how they've separated us from each other and
the possibility of leading productive satisfying lives... Sure, we can live
fairly disease free, but the quality of life is compromised by values of
our culture - just adhering to the status quo."
Moby is often caricatured as "that extremist vegan/Christian nutter" so we
felt that it was time to delve beneath the common preconceptions to
consider Moby's true feelings on the matter. After all, his appearance
onstage at Reading with the slogan "FUCKER" daubed across his chest in
paint seems somewhat at odds with the traditional image of Christian
moderation. One description of his views we recently read dubbed him a
"libertarian, unorthodox Christian" - "Well, unorthodox Christian, sure. I
like Christ and I'm yet to find a better description of the human condition
than that which Christ gives in the New Testament; but "libertarian"?
There's a Libertarian Party in the United States and they're nuts. I'm not
a civil libertarian but people should be able to do what they want as long
as it doesn't impinge upon the rights of others - if you want to do heroin
or blow your head off or if you want to have an abortion, fine, as long as
it only affects you. The police's job shouldn't be preserving aesthetics."
But surely most cases aren't clear - smoking is a personal choice but
affects others just as suicide affects families in society. "Well, people
always try to hide behind the smokescreen, no pun intended, of individual
liberties when something they like is challenged but we've got to try to
build a pragmatic consensus - smoking does hurt others, therefore in Moby's
world smoking should be illegal, at least in the presence of other people.
Your actions are compromising somebody else's ability to enjoy life -
that's where the law should step in."
There are certainly very few high profile Christians in the music world,
and while many Christians would be expected to oppose the high profile of
drugs in the scene Moby doesn't see himself in opposition with these
trends. "I don't really have a big problem with drugs or hedonism; I just
have a problem with people hurting themselves. Its like the movie
Trainspotting - the opening tirade makes a lot of sense to me, I do see
drug use as a viable alternative to modern suburban living; not that I
would advocate it for anyone, but I don't have a real problem with it. I
have a much bigger problem with people doing work and living lives that are
compromised - doing your job and feeling like an upstanding member of the
society but they hate their job, they're unhealthy, not happy with their
family and don't feel satisfied with anything. I see that as a lot more
evil and widespread than hedonism and degeneracy. A lot of the hedonism of
the dance scene is destructive, just placating people so that in the week
they can go and do their mind-numbing jobs - the jobs are the problem, not
the drugs! The drugs aspect of dance music was what made it so interesting
in a lot of ways - especially MDMA which seemed to really liberate a lot of
people. The whole drug issue is dealt with in black & white with no
ambiguity: either pro or anti-drugs; pro-Christian or anti-Christian -
there's no ambiguity but the world just isn't like that. Why not take each
issue as it comes? MDMA is a good example; it was used by psychotherapists
for years in benevolent ways but suddenly people start self-medicating with
a seemingly benign drug and the government says 'No, its bad'. Well where's
the empirical evidence? Its just so inconsistent."
Moby's album sleeves are always worth reading for their often scathing
attacks on the excesses of society and promotion of an ethical way of life,
but they have been dismissed by some as simply a hypertrophy of
Christianity. Certainly, the love of Christ is an important aspect of
Moby's work, but is the basis of Moby's viewpoint dependent on belief in
God? "No, I think it relies on subjectivity. The essence of my ethical
structure is the Golden Rule: if I don't want it done to me, I shouldn't do
it to someone else. If I don't want a couple of pigs to put me in a
stockade and kill me for my skin, I shouldn't do it to pigs. That's where
my ethics come from - its really basic on that level." Of course, much
established Christian thought (e.g. Catholicism) is contrary to this
viewpoint - according to the Old Testament animals are placed under man's
dominance due to our privileged relationship with God and are to be
exploited for man's ends. The Church also bases its homophobia on
Scriptural grounds. "Well, they should come and ask me 'cause I've figured
it out! My belief is completely separate from the culture of Christianity.
I see some flaws in it but I'm committed to Christ, not Christianity. But
to me looking at the universe speaks of the existence of God; the existence
of an architect at least and if you want to understand the character of the
architect you've got to look at the character of the universe. If you want
to learn about God, look at a forest." At this point the conversation moves
into a discussion of the basis of faith, the success of Genesis chapters 1
and 2 as analogy, historical quirks of organised religion and rival
theories for the origin of the universe. Fascinating as this was , its
inclusion may be somewhat at odds with the typical content of the Baggage
so it will have to be held back pending a decision to include a
philosophical discussion page between the Live Reviews and the Elliott
Interview.
Later that evening Moby played with Soundgarden at the Wolverhampton Civic
Hall, and won over a crowd probably unfamiliar with his dance material with
an entertaining half hour of hardcore punk rock and superb thrash metal
versions of house classics "Everytime You Touch Me" and "Go". According to
Moby: "For some reason the British mainstream press don't want to really
talk to me - they're confused and waiting to see how everybody else will
respond." And although I was disappointed by his move away from his superb
electronic past I was quickly won over by his performance which proves not
only that he is 'jack-of-all-trades' but also 'master of all'. But the
truly frightening question remains - after the not-inconsiderable shift
from uplifting house to speed metal; what on earth will he try his hand at
next?
- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
Moby was talking to Tony and Dave.
===========================================================================
- -
Eric M. Goldberg gold@bridge.net
Music Box Homepage http://www.bridge.net/~gold/mb/mb.htm
"There are only two kinds of music. Good and the other kind."
Duke Ellington
- -
------------------------------
Date: Sat, 5 Apr 1997 11:28:06 -0500 (EST)
From: Chilidiba9@aol.com
Subject: Re: (mobility) Joy Electric!
joy electric is a good man!!! tooth and nail did a bad thing by letting him
go..he's got his own little electronic thing going for him....
l.e.
------------------------------
Date: Sat, 5 Apr 1997 11:12:57 -0600 (CST)
From: ".xAQ_" <zbentz@d.umn.edu>
Subject: (mobility) woah!
ok. i think some of us are getting a bit off topic.
if you're going to talk about anything other than moby, take it somewhere
else.
i am eternally annoyed by people telling me who to write, so don't.
when i said "hardcore," i ment people like technohead, lenny dee, rob
gee, force & styles, justin time, slipmatt, charly lownoise & mental
theo, dugal, eruption, and many many MANY others...
basically, "hardcore" techno is fast. that's about it. from 170bpm's to
20,000,000. (yes, i know of one) moby's "feeling so real" is "hardcore"
if you pitch it up a bit.
so there. now lets stop all this pointless fighting. it makes you look bad.
>8)
- -xaq-
the shack of xaq-103.3fm KUMD-tuesdays 10pm-trance/happy hardcore/dance
"The best way to communicate should be banging on a drum and screaming."
"are ya done squeezing me yet?" <-ranma 1/2-> <-moby->
"women love all that rubber." <-some guy on red green->
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Date: Sat, 5 Apr 1997 20:45:28 +0300 (EDT)
From: Samu Heinonen <samuhei@dlc.fi>
Subject: Re: (mobility) album o' the year?
At 10.00 5.4.1997 -0500, you wrote:
>ok gang..were almost a third of the way thru the year and i dare say its
>time to express a little opinion on the music thrown to us this year.
>so, everyone all together now, what are your top 5 picks for album of
>the year so far?
>
>Rosencrantz and Sinjinstern are dead.
>
>
>
Moby:Animal Rights
David Bowie: Earthling
Bjork: Telegram
These are my 3 best..
Best of various:
The Saint Soundtrack..
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| Heinonen |
| e-mail:samuhei@dlc.fi |
| Finland |
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Date: Sat, 05 Apr 1997 12:44:05 -0500
From: Sinjin <Sinjin089@dbeach.com>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Joy Electric!
Chilidiba9@aol.com wrote:
>
> joy electric is a good man!!! tooth and nail did a bad thing by letting him
> go..he's got his own little electronic thing going for him....
>
> l.e.
i just found out y4esterday what the story was on that. i thought it was
kinda wierd that Brandon would let ronnie just go like that because
brandon ADORES Ronnie and his music. bet then after reading some stuff,
it all hit me at once. ive been BLIND! all those bands <JE, stavesacre,
supertones, slick shoes> jumped over to BEC records..and whattya think
BEC stands for? BRANDON EBEL COMPANY. sorta like dgc=david geffen
company? brandons still got em all...and whats happening is brandon is
going to be making the big push into mainstream a la subpop. <believe it
or not i actually talked to brandon about this about a year ago. io dont
know WHY it took me this long to figure it out> hes concentraing on
gettign these bands going and then selling part of the rights to a
bigger company..the way sub pop did...and then having the tooth and nail
logo on all the records..good business for everyone. now what appears to
be the case with BEC is that brandon has taken matters into his own
hands as far as mainstream distrubution..hes got a distrubution deal
with caroline..hes got a new label with a new aim..hmm..should be
interesting
Sinjin
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Date: Sat, 5 Apr 1997 13:41:10 -0500 (EST)
From: MOBYchild@aol.com
Subject: Re: (mobility) album o' the year?
MOBY: Animal Rights
Bjork: telegram
Orb: Orblivion
those are in no order, btw
the renegade robot
~L otc+b~
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Date: Sat, 05 Apr 1997 11:04:16 -0800
From: eric weiss <eric_w@geocities.com>
Subject: Re: (mobility) album o' the year?
In order:
#3) Bjork - Telegram
#2) David Bowie - Earthling
#1) Moby - Animal Rights
damn looking through what ive been listening to lately.. they are all
from 1996 (aphex twin, jamiroquai, dj shadow) i guess im behind the
times
- --
Eric Weiss
Epicentre Productions
eric_w@geocities.com
http://www.geocities.com/Area51/4255/
http://pages.prodigy.com/acropolis/moby.html
http://www.geocities.com/Area51/4255/MobyIcon.zip
"If you were god what would upset you more,
bare breasts on t.v. or the destruction of
healthy and beautiful eco-systems?" -Moby
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Date: Sat, 5 Apr 1997 16:05:48 -0800
From: "Hypecadet" <hypcadet@spectranet.ca>
Subject: Re: (mobility) album o' the year?
> ok gang..were almost a third of the way thru the year and i dare say its
> time to express a little opinion on the music thrown to us this year.
> so, everyone all together now, what are your top 5 picks for album of
> the year so far?
Hmm....The only 2 1997 things I own are Animal Rights & Death In Vegas:
Rekkit (the single)....Cubinate's last disc was at the end of last year
though-that one was pretty cool...
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Date: Sat, 5 Apr 1997 15:46:31 -0800
From: "Hypecadet" <hypcadet@spectranet.ca>
Subject: Re: (mobility) spoken word
> should do what ex punker Henry Rollins does.. write a book and then go
That's almost as bad as putting Moby & Danzig in an interview
together...wait...that's been done hasn't it?
Seriously though-Rollins older spoken word was great (along with Pissing In
The Gene Pool) but he's gotten to comedic in his old age....(imo)
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Date: Sat, 5 Apr 1997 16:05:48 -0800
From: "Hypecadet" <hypcadet@spectranet.ca>
Subject: Re: (mobility) album o' the year?
> ok gang..were almost a third of the way thru the year and i dare say its
> time to express a little opinion on the music thrown to us this year.
> so, everyone all together now, what are your top 5 picks for album of
> the year so far?
Hmm....The only 2 1997 things I own are Animal Rights & Death In Vegas:
Rekkit (the single)....Cubinate's last disc was at the end of last year
though-that one was pretty cool...
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Date: Sat, 5 Apr 1997 15:46:31 -0800
From: "Hypecadet" <hypcadet@spectranet.ca>
Subject: Re: (mobility) spoken word
> should do what ex punker Henry Rollins does.. write a book and then go
That's almost as bad as putting Moby & Danzig in an interview
together...wait...that's been done hasn't it?
Seriously though-Rollins older spoken word was great (along with Pissing In
The Gene Pool) but he's gotten to comedic in his old age....(imo)
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Date: Sat, 05 Apr 1997 14:23:28
From: "Vanishing Son" <vson@usa.net>
Subject: (mobility) rare Moby on MPEG3
Just wanted to say thanks to Samu Heinonen for the Prodigy MPEG3.
I'd love to contribute & trade rare Moby mixes on MP3, and make
them available to the list as well. However, what's the consensus
on which tracks/mixes are rare? I've got all my Moby catalogued
in my music collection list at www.swcp.com/synth/musicinv.txt ,
but I don't know what would be worthy to MPEG-ize and what would
be a waste of time. Any ideas/discussion about this? I've got a
German CD-single entitled "Move - The Mixes" (Mute Germany 826.773)
with mixes that don't appear on any of the UK or US singles, so
maybe this one's a contender.
(If you want to get into MPEG3 listening, you can grab freeware
and shareware players at www.mpeg.org . I recommend MuseArc for
us Windoze 95 users. For Mac users, I believe Quicktime has an
extension to play MPEG, but perhaps someone can verify this.)
- ------------------------------------------------------------------
vanishing son / vson@usa.net / www.swcp.com/synth / 505 332 0139
- ------------------------------------------------------------------
"Bother!" said Pooh, as he violated the Bosnian cease-fire.
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Date: Sat, 05 Apr 1997 16:00:31 -0600
From: Scott Stegenga <steg@ix.netcom.com>
Subject: Re: (mobility) album o' the year?
My top five are tough because not many GOOD releases have come my way
yet...but here's what it is so far...in no particular order.
1. Daft Punk - Homework
2. Chemical Brothers - Dig Your Own Hole
3. Moby - Animal Rights
4. The London Suede - Coming Up
5. Depeche Mode - Ultra (I just know it'll be good)
- ---
Scott Steg...I Love Carrots
"Are there heartstings connected...to the wings you've got slapped on your
back?"
- Belly
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Date: Sat, 5 Apr 1997 15:28:57 -0700
From: Born Slippy <cdperk@trib.com>
Subject: Re: (mobility) album o' the year?
1. FSOL "Dead Cities"
2. Orb "Orblivion"
3. David Bowie "Earthling"
4. Various Artists "Happy 2B Hardcore"
5. Prodigy "Pyromaniac" (although it isn't really an album, it's a bootleg,
and i just can't stop listening to it)
>ok gang..were almost a third of the way thru the year and i dare say its
>time to express a little opinion on the music thrown to us this year.
>so, everyone all together now, what are your top 5 picks for album of
>the year so far?
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Date: Sat, 05 Apr 1997 17:48:51 -0500
From: Vitamin C <weeg@infonline.net>
Subject: Re: (mobility) album o' the year?
Hell-o! Here's my contribution to the Top 5 of '97 so far:
1. Live - Secret Samadhi
2. Moby - Animal Rights
3. Mighty Mighty BossTones - Let's Face It
4. Body Count - Violent Demise: The Last Days
5. Offspring - Ixnay on the Hombre'
That's all 5 of my current '97 CD's. More are on the way.
Paul
http://ns.infonline.net/~weeg/
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Date: Sat, 5 Apr 1997 17:21:36 -0800
From: Shaun Rader <srader@uci.edu>
Subject: RE: (mobility) rare Moby on MPEG3
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That would be GREAT! The Move Electro Mix sure sounds awesome
on the Mixed & Remixed CD. I bet they are all good. I haven't heard
those Hymn mixes in full form either.
I'd love to hear the full version of All That I Need Is To Be Loved (Melodic
Mix) if anyone would like to rip that one. What other songs might
people want? I have a few I could trade...
Shaun
- -----Original Message-----
From: Vanishing Son [SMTP:vson@usa.net]
Sent: Saturday, April 05, 1997 6:23 AM
To: mobility@xmission.com
Subject: (mobility) rare Moby on MPEG3
Just wanted to say thanks to Samu Heinonen for the Prodigy MPEG3.
I'd love to contribute & trade rare Moby mixes on MP3, and make
them available to the list as well. However, what's the consensus
on which tracks/mixes are rare? I've got all my Moby catalogued
in my music collection list at www.swcp.com/synth/musicinv.txt ,
but I don't know what would be worthy to MPEG-ize and what would
be a waste of time. Any ideas/discussion about this? I've got a
German CD-single entitled "Move - The Mixes" (Mute Germany 826.773)
with mixes that don't appear on any of the UK or US singles, so
maybe this one's a contender.
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