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Date: Sat, 05 Jan 2002 21:16:31 -0500
From: hikingonthru@cs.com
Subject: WAS:MtMan-List: a few understand..NOW: Stop It!!!
Hello Camp,
I posted a message not too long ago with some outside observations about AMM brotherhood and impressions given bot pos. and neg.
I usually try not to say anything to deride anyone, but Clint (since you prefer to go by that name)...for the love of Pete, stop your little game.
It is stuff like that, that makes noone want to play with you! I am willing to bet if you just let it go and started asking some forthright questions and adding decent, helpful info. the timbre of the list toward you will change. That is just how I have seen it happen.
Otherwise, I would humbly request that you withdraw from posting...or Mr. Rudy ban this person.
I do not know about the rest of you, but I am tired of going through the postings like that.
It just ain't fun no more.
Sincerely (tired of this thread),
C.Kent
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Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2002 23:33:11 -0500
From: <cd252@ptd.net>
Subject: Re: WAS:MtMan-List: a few understand..NOW: Stop It!!!
Why do some of you let him get under your skin? let him rant....In the end
the only one he will make look bad is himself.
Peace to all,
"Cold Brass"
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From: <hikingonthru@cs.com>
To: <hist_text@lists.xmission.com>
Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2002 9:16 PM
Subject: WAS:MtMan-List: a few understand..NOW: Stop It!!!
> Hello Camp,
>
> I posted a message not too long ago with some outside observations about
AMM brotherhood and impressions given bot pos. and neg.
>
> I usually try not to say anything to deride anyone, but Clint (since you
prefer to go by that name)...for the love of Pete, stop your little game.
> It is stuff like that, that makes noone want to play with you! I am
willing to bet if you just let it go and started asking some forthright
questions and adding decent, helpful info. the timbre of the list toward you
will change. That is just how I have seen it happen.
>
> Otherwise, I would humbly request that you withdraw from posting...or Mr.
Rudy ban this person.
>
> I do not know about the rest of you, but I am tired of going through the
postings like that.
>
> It just ain't fun no more.
>
> Sincerely (tired of this thread),
> C.Kent
>
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Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2002 00:10:27 -0700
From: "Thomas Ballstaedt" <tphsb@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: surcingles
webbing sounds like a damn good idea for a surcingle. Its cheaper, less
bulky and would likely breath a lot better. mine is made out of leather and
is pretty near 7' or 8' long, and it used to slip back of the girth and gall
the horses belly till I put a little loop on the bottom of my cinch. I
could see a nice strip of cotton webbing with a roller buckle and 2 leather
billets neatly stitched to the ends. I believe I'm going to have a go at
one, thanks Clay! for mentioning that.
Tom
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From: "Clay J. Landry" <landry@rangeweb.net>
To: <hist_text@lists.xmission.com>
Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2002 12:20 PM
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: surcingles
> Jerry
>
> A surcingle (spelled numerous ways in the trade ledgers of the Rocky
> Mountain fur trade) was a large belt 3 to 4 inches wide-Grimsley made them
> from webbing or leather- that was strapped around the saddle and the
> horse/mule to further secure the saddle. They passed trhough the saddle
seat
> and around the grith of the horse/mule. Based on the drawings and art work
> of Alfred Jacob Miller the mountaineers used a surcingle to hold the
> ephismore -a piece of buffalo robe used to cover the saddle-in place. If
you
> study the military horse equipment books done by Randy Steffen you will
see
> that a surcingle was used over the military saddles from the early
dragoons
> clear into late Indian wars period.
>
> Clay Landry
> Moorhead MT
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> From: Jerry & Barbara Zaslow <zaz@pop.pacificnet.net>
> To: <hist_text@lists.xmission.com>
> Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 11:43 PM
> Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Center Fire Saddles
>
>
> > Clay,
> >
> > Good to hear from you. As far as the Jed Smith reference, Tom Nichols
> made
> > my saddle. He is a Brother here in California and that is what he told
> me.
> > I should see him in March at the Mission Doings and will specifically
ask
> > him for the reference at that time. I know it is not in his Journal,
"The
> > Southwest Expedition of Jedediah S. Smith, His Personal Account of the
> > Journey to California, 1826-1827" or I missed it when I read it.
> >
> > As far as the sircingle, I have never used one because although I recall
> > hearing the term, I can't remember where I saw it and don't remember
> exactly
> > what it is. Is it a type of breast collar or something different?
> Actually
> > after getting used to my saddle (about 4 years ago) I have not had any
> > problem with it slipping anymore. That was more when I first started
> riding
> > it. I also use a couple of blankets and that seems to have fixed the
> > problem with slipping. Tell me more about the sircingle, though.