In a message dated 12/20/01 5:37:01 PM, conner_one@email.msn.com writes:
<< So if you will, stay
the
> hell away from my camp, you probably wouldn't find it to your likeing.
>
> Sincerely
> >>
Dam if you don't got a way wid words....Dennis!!!! <VBG> You ever whip up
any iron belt buckles? I need one for about a 2" wide belt....and not so
heavy it would drag my fat arse to the bottom of a beaver creek .
Ymos,
Magpie
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Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2001 21:29:16 EST
From: MarkLoader@aol.com
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Canvas /Bedding
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Here is another example of bedding and shelter that uses raw hides and was an
obvious choice and probably used often than was written. It is from
"Wah-to-yah and the Taos Trail" by Lewis H. Garrard his travels 1846 & 47. A
little after what we refer to as the Rocky MT Fur Trade
Page 144
"First, an eligible site for wood, water, shelter from the winds, and a full
view of the herds is chosen; then the adjacent aspen or pinyon grove furnish
two forked poles, which are generally driven upright into the ground. as far
apart as occasion requires, with four feet or about, visible. A pole is then
laid from one fork to the other, and other small ones, seven or eight feet in
length, laid, the smaller ends on the cross pole, the butts resting on the
ground. On top of these are spread raw hides of beef and the skins of game,
and under the frame the soft ends of the pinyon and cedar branches are spread
to the depth of a foot or more. On top of that, deerskins are laid, and then
the bedding surmounts that, which, altogether, makes a springy mattress,
equal to the best "hair" or "moss." In the front is the blazing pine fir, and
at one side a small stick driven in the ground, an inch or two of the
branches remaining, on which the tin cups are hung when not in use. A short
distance beyond is a pen of logs and brush, in which the caballada (horse
herd) is driven when an animal is wanted."
This a description of a Mexican herds man but is probably what a winter camp
would be like. Garrards writing was finished by 1850 so his wording shows his
knowledge of mattresses made of hair or moss.
Anyone the tans hides knows the amount of hair that comes off a hide could be
easily used for bedding. All animals and birds make beds using fur, hair,
grass, leaves feathers and better yet down, there were many types of
waterfowl. Why would a mountain man not make a bed when time and materials
allowed
Mark "Roadkill" Loader
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<HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2>Here is another example of bedding and shelter that uses raw hides and was an obvious choice and probably used often than was written. It is from "Wah-to-yah and the Taos Trail" by Lewis H. Garrard his travels 1846 & 47. A little after what we refer to as the Rocky MT Fur Trade
<BR>Page 144
<BR>"First, an eligible site for wood, water, shelter from the winds, and a full view of the herds is chosen; then the adjacent aspen or pinyon grove furnish two forked poles, which are generally driven upright into the ground. as far apart as occasion requires, with four feet or about, visible. A pole is then laid from one fork to the other, and other small ones, seven or eight feet in length, laid, the smaller ends on the cross pole, the butts resting on the ground. On top of these are spread raw hides of beef and the skins of game, and under the frame the soft ends of the pinyon and cedar branches are spread to the depth of a foot or more. On top of that, deerskins are laid, and then the bedding surmounts that, which, altogether, makes a springy mattress, equal to the best "hair" or "moss." In the front is the blazing pine fir, and at one side a small stick driven in the ground, an inch or two of the branches remaining, on which the tin cups are hung when not in use. A short distance beyond is a pen of logs and brush, in which the caballada (horse herd) is driven when an animal is wanted."
<BR>This a description of a Mexican herds man but is probably what a winter camp would be like. Garrards writing was finished by 1850 so his wording shows his knowledge of mattresses made of hair or moss.
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<BR>Anyone the tans hides knows the amount of hair that comes off a hide could be easily used for bedding. All animals and birds make beds using fur, hair, grass, leaves feathers and better yet down, there were many types of waterfowl. Why would a mountain man not make a bed when time and materials allowed
<BR>Mark "Roadkill" Loader</FONT></HTML>
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Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2001 21:04:38 -0600
From: "Lanney Ratcliff" <amm1585@hyperusa.com>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Brass Parts-$.02 Worth
Buck wrote:
Didn't realize you boys had that much sunlight to worry about bright brass
in Texas, seems like its always raining, flooding or burning up from the
lack of rain - smile Larry, I know Lanney will have a few kind remarks !!!!
My guns don't have any brass.....just iron.
Lanney
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