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hist_text-digest      Monday, September 10 2001      Volume 01 : Number 858



In this issue:

-áááááá MtMan-List: what's authentic
-áááááá MtMan-List: how to unsubscribe
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: what's authentic
-áááááá MtMan-List: Fort Vancouver
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: what's authentic
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Fort Vancouver
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Re: hist_text-digest V1 #854
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: what's authentic
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: what's authentic
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: what's authentic
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Fort Vancouver
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: what's authentic
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: what's authentic
-áááááá MtMan-List: A "double 3 point" blanket supplier's website
-áááááá MtMan-List: Horse & Gunfire
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Horse & Gunfire
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Re: hist_text-digest V1 #854
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Re: hist_text-digest V1 #854
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: A "double 3 point" blanket supplier's website
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Horse & Gunfire
-áááááá MtMan-List: over nite muzzleloader
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: what's authentic
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: what's authentic
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: over nite muzzleloader
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: over nite muzzleloader
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: over nite muzzleloader

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Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 08:13:06 -0500
From: "Frank Fusco" <[e-mail]>
Subject: MtMan-List: what's authentic

    The frequent discussions about authenticity [i.e. 'dream catchers]
remind me of experiences my wife and I had when we first started doing
r'vous.
    We lived in Indiana at the time and the Eastern influence was stronger
than the RMFT emulators on this list seem to be.
    At our first attempt to be 'authentic', I was wearing a 'buckskin'
outfit my wife had made out of some fabric that looked like leather from a
distance. It was ridiculous and very hot. But I wore it because my wife had
worked hard making it, including miles of fringe.
    We had noticed quite a few of the women running around camp wearing only
what can best be described as buckskin bikini's. I sure liked the looks of
those and suggested to my wife that she make one for herself as she [still]
had the figure for it. She did and wore it for a couple years until both she
and the outfit changed shapes. (don't tell her I said that). Not once did
anyone criticize her as being 'not authentic'. We learned that on our own.
    As things progressed my wife wanted an indian outfit for herself that
was as close to truly representative of the original ways as she could make.
We visited a large museum that had (still has) an excellent exhibit of early
American indian artifacts.  I photographed a dress there from several angles
including close-ups of detail in decorations, seams and etc.
    She then proceeded to make her dress almost exactly like the one in the
museum.  When finished it was excellent and no doubt very 'authentic'.
    Wouldn't ye know it........at the very first event we attended with her
wearing that dress, a woman recognized as being 'expert' in period indian
clothing approaced her and said "the indians didn't do it that way" ,
referring to the type of stitiching she had used in the seams.  My wife had
used a method of individual knots along the seam lines just like the
original in the museum had.
    So much for self-appointed camp 'experts'.  The bikini was OK, the truly
correct dress drew rude criticizm.
    I am still a stumbler learner in this business but I have learned to
turn a deaf ear to the vocal 'experts' and be selective in what I accept as
good advice.
    I'll throw in my theory on that. If someone volunteers advice without
being asked, they probably don't know what they are talking about. In fact,
more talk, less real knowledge.
    On the other hand, if someone obviously has put a great deal of thought
and research into an outfit you admire and you have to [politely] extract
information from that person, chances are he really has done his homework
and has the experience to guide you well.
    This list is fortunate to have several well versed and experienced
individuals who share their knowledge and experience.  It is, by design,
primarily a list of RMFT enthusiasts and has little eastern influence but
that information is available elsewhere.
    Thet's me sermon for the day.
Frank G. Fusco
Mountain Home, Arkansas
http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/ozarksmuzzleloaders



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Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 10:13:47 -0500
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Subject: MtMan-List: how to unsubscribe

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Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 11:16:58 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: what's authentic

In a message dated 9/10/01 6:16:21 AM, [e-mail] writes:

<<  I'll throw in my theory on that. If someone volunteers advice without

being asked, they probably don't know what they are talking about. In fact,

more talk, less real knowledge. >>

Waitaminute....wait-a minute!  Capt Lahti knows of what he speaks, and takes
great glee in pointing out the error of my ways.....even when I don't ask.
.....but I get in a couple shots when I can too.....<G>

Ymos,
Magpie

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Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 11:42:27 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: MtMan-List: Fort Vancouver

Hallo the List,

Fort Vancouver has a "Candlelight Tour" this coming Friday and Saturday, if
anyone one is interested and in the area. They attempt to interpret what life
would be like at the fort in 1845, and have about 75 costumed re-enactors in
and outside the walls. About 5000 people attended the tour last year.
<A HREF="http://www.nps.gov/fova/home.htm">Fort Vancouver National Historic
Site Home Page</A>

I'd be there, but will be camped in the High Cascades with Capt Lahti, and
some other boys, terrorizing the deer, bear, grouse, and foraging for
huckleberries....

Ymos,
Magpie

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Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 09:38:20 -0700
From: "rtlahti" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: what's authentic

Magpie,

Yea but your a Pilgrim and subject to correction at any given moment. You do
catch me out now and then though. <G> I don't mind being wrong and having it
pointed out. Hell, that's how I learn that my preconceived notions are off
base. And I won't know it nor will you tell me if I don't say what I
believe. <G> Right?

But [e-mail]  is more correct than not with his theory that
is outlined below. The question is of course, was someone asked? You make a
statement to start a thread and you have asked everyone here for their
opinion. You ask how to do something and you have asked everyone here for
not only information on how to do it but whether you should or not. It's the
nature of human communication. You take a divergent stand from what others
believe and your gonna get called on it. That's the nature of it.

YMOS
Capt. Lahti'


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>
> In a message dated 9/10/01 6:16:21 AM, [e-mail] writes:
>
> <<  I'll throw in my theory on that. If someone volunteers advice without
>
> being asked, they probably don't know what they are talking about. In
fact,
>
> more talk, less real knowledge. >>
>
> Waitaminute....wait-a minute!  Capt Lahti knows of what he speaks, and
takes
> great glee in pointing out the error of my ways.....even when I don't ask.
> .....but I get in a couple shots when I can too.....<G>
>
> Ymos,
> Magpie
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Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 09:40:58 -0700
From: "rtlahti" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Fort Vancouver

> I'd be there, but will be camped in the High Cascades with Capt Lahti, and
> some other boys, terrorizing the deer, bear, grouse, and foraging for
> huckleberries....
>
> Ymos,
> Magpie


By sun light and moon light since we still can't have any open
flame/fire/etc. Pray for rain. (and bring backup) See ya up there!

YMOS
Capt. Lahti'



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Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 12:47:22 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Re: hist_text-digest V1 #854

In a message dated 9/10/1 5:00:20 AM, [e-mail] writes:

<< I look west I can see the
very top tips of the shiny mountains.
Your friend,>>

Don.  You have good eyes.  I remember reading in one of the pioneer journals
"Today we can clearly see the Rocky Mountains.  We should be at their base by
evening.  Traveled all day.  Mountains seem as distant today as they did
yesterday."   I guess these bumps show up pretty well from a distance.  I
live two miles from where they begin on the east edge of the Great Salt Lake
Basin (4,400 feet).  Two more miles and they will have risen to over 9.000
feet.  I am also 8 miles down the Weber River from the spot where Johnston
Gardner and the American trappers chased Peter Skene Ogden and his HBC boys
out of the territory forever.  (Well - they did end up with Fort Hall, but
that is about 150 miles north and For Boise which is over 300 miles away).  I
can also see Fremont island where there is a cross carved in the stone at the
highest point by Kit Carson.  The other side of the lake is the last range of
mountains before the Salt Flats and the Nevada border.  Fort Buena Ventura is
12 miles west - Fort Bridger is 106 miles east.  And me? . . . I'm not
leaving the property all day long.  Stuff to do for rendezvous this week end.
Wishing you a good 'un
Your friend
Dick James

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Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 13:09:26 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: what's authentic

In a message dated 9/10/1 2:16:21 PM, [e-mail] writes:

<< So much for self-appointed camp 'experts'.  The bikini was OK, the truly

correct dress drew rude criticizm.>>

FRANK
You have just given us some prime examples of people who knew when to keep
their mouth shut and others who did not.
Richard James

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Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 13:13:50 -0400
From: "Double Edge Forge" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: what's authentic

" subject to correction at any given moment."


"
Cap't.
 You DO have a "correction" stick, don't you??
D


"When I'm feeling down, I like to whistle.  It makes the neighbor's dog run
to the end of his chain and gag himself."




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Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 13:30:05 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: what's authentic

In a message dated 9/10/1 4:17:48 PM, [e-mail] writes:

<< If someone volunteers advice without

being asked, they probably don't know what they are talking about. In fact,

more talk, less real knowledge. >>>>

Can't accept that one.  Lots of times I see an honest inquisitor stumbling in
the dark and I go off line to help him.  And I BLOODY WELL know what I am
talking about when I do.  But - not to put you down.  .  .  I do see a lot of
free advise from people who have not yet invented the wheel but want to say
something.  Kinda like the guy who just caught his first fish going around
giving free advise to all other fishermen.  AND there is a lot of good stuff
volunteered on this site (along with a lot of duplication and silliness).

Richard James

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Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 13:36:41 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Fort Vancouver

In a message dated 9/10/1 4:43:27 PM, [e-mail] writes:

<<<A HREF="http://www.nps.gov/fova/home.htm">Fort Vancouver National Historic
Site Home Page</A>>>

Magpie
Great site!
Thank you
Richard James

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Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 10:54:18 -0700
From: "rtlahti" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: what's authentic

Yup. Ain't afraid to use it neither!


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Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 10:13 AM
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: what's authentic


> " subject to correction at any given moment."
>
>
> "
> Cap't.
>  You DO have a "correction" stick, don't you??
> D
>
>
> "When I'm feeling down, I like to whistle.  It makes the neighbor's dog
run
> to the end of his chain and gag himself."
>
>
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Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 11:28:15 -0700
From: "rtlahti" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: what's authentic

"Wouldn't ye know it........at the very first event we attended with her
wearing that dress, a woman recognized as being 'expert' in period indian
clothing approaced her and said "the indians didn't do it that way" ,"

Frank,

Same thing happened to my wife a couple three years back. This gal came up
to her and without invitation started telling her what was wrong with her
(mostly eastern)  outfit. My wife listened politely for a moment and then
said, "I really don't care. I like it and that's all that matters." And then
she walked on about her business. That's about all you can do with such
people. They are probably sincere but just don't understand the need for an
invitation first.

PS. Sounds like my wife's Indian Dress (that I made for her from three
braintan hides) tied up the sides rather than sewn.

YMOS
Capt. Lahti'





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Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 13:33:40 -0500
From: Lee Newbill <[e-mail]>
Subject: MtMan-List: A "double 3 point" blanket supplier's website

<html><head></head><body>I submit this webaddress for your information only,
I have no financial or other interest in this outfit.  These folks sell a
double 3 point blanket .<br>
<br>
Website Montana Shepard,s Market,  <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.woolsoft.net/index.htm">http://www.woolsoft.net/index.htm</a><pre></pre>
Regards<br>
<br>
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Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 13:41:31 -0500
From: Lee Newbill <[e-mail]>
Subject: MtMan-List: Horse & Gunfire

<html><head></head><body>Greetings.<br>
<br>
I know I've been pretty quiet lately, but now I have a question regarding horses and gunfire.<br>
<br>
How have the list members with horses familierize thier mounts and packstock
with gunfire?  Mine have shown a marked unhappiness with gunshots and I need
to fix that.<br>
<br>
Been training and work the small Newbill herd for packing... so far, only
one minor wreck.  Lesson learned... make sure the breakable link in the lead
between pack animals is indeed breakable.<br>
<br>
Regards from Idaho<br>
<br>
Lee Newbill<br>
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Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 17:21:14 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Horse & Gunfire

In a message dated 9/10/01 4:33:48 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
[e-mail] writes:

<< How have the list members with horses familierize thier mounts and
packstock with gunfire?  Mine have shown a marked unhappiness with gunshots
and I needto fix that. >>

Crooked hand offered a step-be-step to me once that was pretty simple.  The
horsemen who sw it said it sounded like it would work pretty well.  If you
asked nicely and offered a couple pounds of good powder he would likely tell
you just how to do it <VBG>.  Good luck in hunting horseback!

- -C.Kent

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Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 21:42:50 +0000
From: "darlene secondine" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Re: hist_text-digest V1 #854

Howdy Dick,
  Sounds like your right in amongst 'em. Don't waste your time wavin' east
at me though, wy eyes ain,t that dern good. Must be beautiful there. Hope to
see it someday.
Your friend,
Don Secondine


>From: [e-mail]
>Reply-To: [e-mail]
>To: [e-mail]
>Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Re: hist_text-digest V1 #854
>Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 12:47:22 EDT
>
>
>In a message dated 9/10/1 5:00:20 AM, [e-mail] writes:
>
><< I look west I can see the
>very top tips of the shiny mountains.
>Your friend,>>
>
>Don.  You have good eyes.  I remember reading in one of the pioneer
>journals
>"Today we can clearly see the Rocky Mountains.  We should be at their base
>by
>evening.  Traveled all day.  Mountains seem as distant today as they did
>yesterday."   I guess these bumps show up pretty well from a distance.  I
>live two miles from where they begin on the east edge of the Great Salt
>Lake
>Basin (4,400 feet).  Two more miles and they will have risen to over 9.000
>feet.  I am also 8 miles down the Weber River from the spot where Johnston
>Gardner and the American trappers chased Peter Skene Ogden and his HBC boys
>out of the territory forever.  (Well - they did end up with Fort Hall, but
>that is about 150 miles north and For Boise which is over 300 miles away).
>I
>can also see Fremont island where there is a cross carved in the stone at
>the
>highest point by Kit Carson.  The other side of the lake is the last range
>of
>mountains before the Salt Flats and the Nevada border.  Fort Buena Ventura
>is
>12 miles west - Fort Bridger is 106 miles east.  And me? . . . I'm not
>leaving the property all day long.  Stuff to do for rendezvous this week
>end.
>Wishing you a good 'un
>Your friend
>Dick James
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Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 18:05:58 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Re: hist_text-digest V1 #854

In a message dated 9/10/1 10:44:06 PM, [e-mail] writes:

<< Must be beautiful there. Hope to see it someday.>>

If you do . . . nay, WHEN you do, South Weber is right at the mouth of Weber
Canyon.  I am the only Richard James in South Weber.  Let me know as I am
always good for beans and bed.

Meanwhile we are left here to envy what you have in Ohio country by way of
history, old used "things" (a la swapmeet), hardwood - maple, osage orange,
walnut, hickory, cane, oak . . . and museum content.  The man who taught me
to make brooms lives in Germantown - talks about the sasafras and other stuff
there and down into Kentucky.  I do hope to visit there one day following
this plan:  I can fly anywhere Southwest flies for free but thanks to my
first wife I have no money to do stuff with after I get anywhere.  Part 2:  I
do do trading  at rendezvous (I started them all) and could turn up enough
money to get some wood and whatever other plunder . . . .  Part 3:  I  have a
friend from the Boise area who is always going back east to pick up school
busses and deliver them in Idaho.  He drives right past the back of my
property on the way home (my land goes north to( I-84) and has offered me a
ride home.and "hauling" any time he goes back there.  To Execute:  Line up
some wood and plunder, fly to Ohio to take posession, link up with Gary to
load up, and then ride on west to unload.  What is that? about 1400 miles?
You just may want to ride out here with us for a day or two.

Let me know if I can help you with anything in your historic pursuit.

Your Friend
RJ

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Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 18:12:44 -0400
From: Linda Holley <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: A "double 3 point" blanket supplier's website

Hey, thanks.  That is a great web site.

Linda Holley

Lee Newbill wrote:

> I submit this webaddress for your information only, I have no
> financial or other interest in this outfit.  These folks sell a
> double 3 point blanket .
>
> Website Montana Shepard,s Market,  http://www.woolsoft.net/index.htm
>
> Regards
>
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Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 22:15:48 +0000
From: "darlene secondine" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Horse & Gunfire

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Howdy Lee,
I've had good results with starting with a pan full of powder and working up
in small increments of powder as the horse gets used to the smell and noise
gradually. If at any time during the process the horse gets nervous or
stressed, back off a little. Dismountes at first holding him close with a
lead. Let him smell it while telling him how good he is. Calm and slow will
pay off. He gets to realize that the smell and noise ain't going to hurt him
soon enough, if it indeed doesn't hurt. Patience pays off.
Good luck and let us know how things go,
Don Secondine


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>To: [e-mail]
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>Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 13:41:31 -0500
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<html><head></head><body>Greetings.<br>
<br>
I know I've been pretty quiet lately, but now I have a question regarding horses and gunfire.<br>
<br>
How have the list members with horses familierize thier mounts and packstock
with gunfire?  Mine have shown a marked unhappiness with gunshots and I need
to fix that.<br>
<br>
Been training and work the small Newbill herd for packing... so far, only
one minor wreck.  Lesson learned... make sure the breakable link in the lead
between pack animals is indeed breakable.<br>
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Regards from Idaho<br>
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Lee Newbill<br>
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Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 18:20:30 -0400
From: Ellen Gossett <[e-mail]>
Subject: MtMan-List: over nite muzzleloader

This is a ques for hunters or those who keep a charge in their guns over
nite or longer.After hunting if nothing is shot most folks ( I know)
discharge it and wipe it then load it the next morning a fresh. Anybody
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Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 18:24:37 -0400
From: Linda Holley <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: what's authentic

Actually, on one part of that note there may have been another reason no one
said much about the "bikinis".      THE VIEW WAS TOO GOOD TO SAY ANYTHING!!!!
Found that to be the main prime problem about the "skimpy" clothing.  Most
events do not say anything if it is made of "fur, feathers, leather or beads".
And most do not know better.

As for the lady, that does happen.  I no longer will judge women's' Indian
outfits because they get real mad when the Bushways' wife with the turquoise
moccasins, furry anklets, red leather dress, ermine skins galore in the hair,
and  Farah facet (sp) hair dew....don't win. It wasn't' correct in Dances With
Wolves and it is still not correct.  And the others don't like hearing it from
the judge either, on what is wrong with their clothing. So for the shoe on the
other foot, don't ask if you don't want to know and don't get your feelings
hurt because you did.

Linda Holley

[e-mail] wrote:

> In a message dated 9/10/1 2:16:21 PM, [e-mail] writes:
>
> << So much for self-appointed camp 'experts'.  The bikini was OK, the truly
>
> correct dress drew rude criticizm.>>
>
> FRANK
> You have just given us some prime examples of people who knew when to keep
> their mouth shut and others who did not.
> Richard James
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Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 18:31:36 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: what's authentic

In a message dated 9/10/1 11:23:53 PM, [e-mail] writes:

<<they get real mad when the Bushways' wife with the turquoise
moccasins, furry anklets, red leather dress, ermine skins galore in the hair,
and  Farah facet (sp) hair dew....don't win.>>

Bingo (again) Linda.  I once judged a contest where the two obvious top
contenders were dressed almost identically.  One was very pretty with lots of
long black locks.  The other was common, heavier and had a mole on her lower
cheek with hairs growing out of it.  Footwear.  The little beauty had
moccasin-looking slippers on with token Hong-Kong beadwork.  The other gal
was barefoot.  I had an immediate vision of Edwin Tunis illustrations for his
book "Colonial Living" with a barefoot gal and a pipe.  Hairy mole ober allus!

Cheers
Richard James

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Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 22:46:32 +0000
From: "darlene secondine" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: over nite muzzleloader

Hi Ellen,  It gets pretty damp here in the Great Lakes area but when it is
not expedient to pull a load I have had real good luck using a small feather
quill stuffed into the touch hole after dumping the priming and cleaning and
drying the pan to cut down on the attraction of moisture and condensation.
Also, a ball of beeswax about the same caliber of your rifle, dropped down
the bore and smashed out flat with your wiping stick will seal the load from
any moisture coming down the bore.
Good luck on your hunt, I hope you get a 32 pointer,
Don Secondine


>From: Ellen Gossett <[e-mail]>
>Reply-To: [e-mail]
>To: "[e-mail]" <[e-mail]>
>Subject: MtMan-List: over nite muzzleloader
>Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 18:20:30 -0400
>
>This is a ques for hunters or those who keep a charge in their guns over
>nite or longer.After hunting if nothing is shot most folks ( I know)
>discharge it and wipe it then load it the next morning a fresh. Anybody
>do different.GJG
>
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Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 19:39:07 -0400
From: Ellen Gossett <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: over nite muzzleloader

Thanks I guess I shoulda signed  it .Gentleman James Gossett(Ellens worse half)
darlene secondine wrote:

> Hi Ellen,  It gets pretty damp here in the Great Lakes area but when it is
> not expedient to pull a load I have had real good luck using a small feather
> quill stuffed into the touch hole after dumping the priming and cleaning and
> drying the pan to cut down on the attraction of moisture and condensation.
> Also, a ball of beeswax about the same caliber of your rifle, dropped down
> the bore and smashed out flat with your wiping stick will seal the load from
> any moisture coming down the bore.
> Good luck on your hunt, I hope you get a 32 pointer,
> Don Secondine
>
> >From: Ellen Gossett <[e-mail]>
> >Reply-To: [e-mail]
> >To: "[e-mail]" <[e-mail]>
> >Subject: MtMan-List: over nite muzzleloader
> >Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 18:20:30 -0400
> >
> >This is a ques for hunters or those who keep a charge in their guns over
> >nite or longer.After hunting if nothing is shot most folks ( I know)
> >discharge it and wipe it then load it the next morning a fresh. Anybody
> >do different.GJG
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Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 23:46:54 +0000
From: "darlene secondine" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: over nite muzzleloader

Yep, I'm Darlene's worst half,too.
Don


>From: Ellen Gossett <[e-mail]>
>Reply-To: [e-mail]
>To: [e-mail]
>Subject: Re: MtMan-List: over nite muzzleloader
>Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 19:39:07 -0400
>
>Thanks I guess I shoulda signed  it .Gentleman James Gossett(Ellens worse
>half)
>darlene secondine wrote:
>
> > Hi Ellen,  It gets pretty damp here in the Great Lakes area but when it
>is
> > not expedient to pull a load I have had real good luck using a small
>feather
> > quill stuffed into the touch hole after dumping the priming and cleaning
>and
> > drying the pan to cut down on the attraction of moisture and
>condensation.
> > Also, a ball of beeswax about the same caliber of your rifle, dropped
>down
> > the bore and smashed out flat with your wiping stick will seal the load
>from
> > any moisture coming down the bore.
> > Good luck on your hunt, I hope you get a 32 pointer,
> > Don Secondine
> >
> > >From: Ellen Gossett <[e-mail]>
> > >Reply-To: [e-mail]
> > >To: "[e-mail]" <[e-mail]>
> > >Subject: MtMan-List: over nite muzzleloader
> > >Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 18:20:30 -0400
> > >
> > >This is a ques for hunters or those who keep a charge in their guns
>over
> > >nite or longer.After hunting if nothing is shot most folks ( I know)
> > >discharge it and wipe it then load it the next morning a fresh. Anybody
> > >do different.GJG
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