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Subject: hist_text-digest V1 #838
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hist_text-digest Friday, August 3 2001 Volume 01 : Number 838
In this issue:
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Clarks Sign Language
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Clarks Sign Language
-áááááá MtMan-List: Lewis & Clark related item
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Clarks Sign Language
-áááááá MtMan-List: Clarks Sign Language
-áááááá MtMan-List: Flame Retardant Canvas
-áááááá MtMan-List: Baker Style Lean-to circa 1836?
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Baker Style Lean-to circa 1836?
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Baker Style Lean-to circa 1836?
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Clarks Sign Language
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Baker Style Lean-to circa 1836?
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: List for Women
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: List for Women
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: List for Women
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: oil cloth
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Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 20:06:22 -0700
From: "larry pendleton" <yrrw@airmail.net>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Clarks Sign Language
Tom,
Invent a sign? Can we do that? <G>
>>I dunno. Until someone comes up with the proper sign, I don't see why
not.
Pendleton
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Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2001 18:36:07 -0700
From: "pat broehl" <patbroehl@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Clarks Sign Language
Greetings,
My opinion paralels those who consider Clark's as more liberal
and flexable, as language should be. or at least could be.
As long as it gets the job done or the message across it is
working. People are making up new words all the time as the need
arises. Those of us on the receiving end that can figure out
what is being communicated will get the message. Those that
have no capacity for variables will not.
Spelling,pronunciation, punctuation, etc. are important enuff
to some that it will hender the conversation when it is less than
perfect. Others may just go with the flow.
Adding words, modifying signs and adapting speach are all
part of the process.
That's just my opinion. Itsaquain
>Tom,
>
>Invent a sign? Can we do that? <G>
>
> >>I dunno. Until someone comes up with the proper sign, I don't see why
>not.
>
>Pendleton
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Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 22:09:52 -0400 (EDT)
From: JONDMARINETTI@webtv.net (Jon Marinetti)
Subject: MtMan-List: Lewis & Clark related item
[USA Today, Tues. 07-31-01, p.7A]
South Dakota: Vermillion -- On the hill where explorers Lewis & Clark
stood nearly 200 years ago, a ceremony marked the dedication of Spirit
Mound as the newest acquisition by the state parks department. A check
for $600,000 was presented to complete the purchase of 320 acres of
farmland, which will be returned to its natural state. Lewis and Clark
journals indicate they climbed the mound on Aug.25, 1804.
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Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 22:51:47 EDT
From: LivingInThePast@aol.com
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Clarks Sign Language
In a message dated 8/1/01 6:37:27 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
patbroehl@hotmail.com writes:
<< People are making up new words all the time as the need arises. Those of
us on the receiving end that can figure out what is being communicated will
get the message. Those that have no capacity for variables will not. >>
Good point; in all peoples and all languages. I'm thinking it's called slang,
no? Sometimes it's even later incorporated into the base language, as the
medical profession recently did with fart! Barney
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Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2001 22:26:23 -0600
From: "Gretchen Ormond" <leona3@sourceoneinternet.com>
Subject: MtMan-List: Clarks Sign Language
>Larry,
?Invent a sign? Can we do that? <G>
>Tom
Theyed a used it if theyed a had it. <G>
Wynn Ormond
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Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 11:26:22 -0500
From: "Best, Dianne" <dbest@hydro.mb.ca>
Subject: MtMan-List: Flame Retardant Canvas
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I used to travel with a big old wall tent, about 14 by 16 feet, 100% cotton,
that I water-proofed periodically with paraffin wax dissolved in Naphtha gas
(a process I did in the middle of an open field with no sources of
ignition!!!)
I always worried about the flammability of that tent because I often lived
in it for long periods of time. I had it up one day with very little stuff
inside it when a big bright ember from the fire spit up on the roof of the
tent. Well, seemed like a good time to test the burning qualities so I just
stood and watched it. The paraffin and cotton burned with a purdy little
flame, just like a candle wick, around the ember until the ember burned
through and fell inside. Then the flame on the canvas went out! I guess
there was enough paraffin in the cotton that it smothered the flame without
the extra heat of the ember to keep it going. I slept a lot sounder after
that!
(I have seen modern tents burn and I'll tell you boys - I WONT GO IN 'EM!!
Give me my good old cotton tent with lots of paraffin!)
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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Courier New">I used to travel with a big old =
wall tent, about 14 by 16 feet, 100% cotton, that I water-proofed =
periodically with paraffin wax dissolved in Naphtha gas (a process I =
did in the middle of an open field with no sources of =
ignition!!!)</FONT></P>
<P><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Courier New">I always worried about the =
flammability of that tent because I often lived in it for long periods =
of time. I had it up one day with very little stuff inside it when a =
big bright ember from the fire spit up on the roof of the tent. Well, =
seemed like a good time to test the burning qualities so I just stood =
and watched it. The paraffin and cotton burned with a purdy little =
flame, just like a candle wick, around the ember until the ember burned =
through and fell inside. Then the flame on the canvas went out! I guess =
there was enough paraffin in the cotton that it smothered the flame =
without the extra heat of the ember to keep it going. I slept a lot =
sounder after that!</FONT></P>
<P><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Courier New">(I have seen modern tents burn =
and I'll tell you boys - I WONT GO IN 'EM!! Give me my good old cotton =
tent with lots of paraffin!)</FONT></P>
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Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 17:22:40 -0400
From: "Tim Jewell" <tjewell@home.com>
Subject: MtMan-List: Baker Style Lean-to circa 1836?
Hello the camp,
I was just browsing the Track of the Wolf website. In their Tents section
they show a Baker style lean-to and in the description it says
"...replicates an original lean-to shown in a French fur trappers chalk
print, drawn on the plains in 1836." Has anyone seen this chalk print or
have any further information about it?
Tim
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Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 16:56:49 -0700
From: "larry pendleton" <yrrw@airmail.net>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Baker Style Lean-to circa 1836?
Tim,
I haven't seen it. I thought Bakers were circa WWI era. Do they call it
a Baker ? A Whelen is similar to a Baker. I think. I don't care for
either one. Takes too many poles to set up.
Pendleton
Hello the camp,
I was just browsing the Track of the Wolf website. In their Tents section
they show a Baker style lean-to and in the description it says
"...replicates an original lean-to shown in a French fur trappers chalk
print, drawn on the plains in 1836." Has anyone seen this chalk print or
have any further information about it?
Tim
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Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2001 17:52:52 -0500
From: John Kramer <kramer@kramerize.com>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Baker Style Lean-to circa 1836?
A Baker, circa 1853, is 1/2 of a wall tent with an attached fly. A Whelen
is a completely different type of lean-to attributed to Colonel Townsend
Whelen, circa 1925. I am not aware of any documentation for either being
correct to our period of interest. A Baker takes 5 to 12 poles, a Whelen
requires 0 to 3.
John...
At 04:56 PM 8/2/01 -0700, you wrote:
>Tim,
> I haven't seen it. I thought Bakers were circa WWI era. Do they call it
>a Baker ? A Whelen is similar to a Baker. I think. I don't care for
>either one. Takes too many poles to set up.
>Pendleton
>
>Hello the camp,
>
>I was just browsing the Track of the Wolf website. In their Tents section
>they show a Baker style lean-to and in the description it says
>"...replicates an original lean-to shown in a French fur trappers chalk
>print, drawn on the plains in 1836." Has anyone seen this chalk print or
>have any further information about it?
>
>Tim
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Use it up, wear it out, make do, or do without.
John Kramer <kramer@kramerize.com>
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Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 16:43:10 -0700
From: "larry pendleton" <yrrw@airmail.net>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Clarks Sign Language
Theyed a used it if theyed a had it. <G>
Wynn Ormond
Damn ! Wynn you coulda gone all summer without adding that phrase ! <G>
Pendleton
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Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 20:41:16 -0400
From: "Tim Jewell" <tjewell@home.com>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Baker Style Lean-to circa 1836?
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From: "larry pendleton"
> Tim,
> I haven't seen it. I thought Bakers were circa WWI era. Do they call
it
> a Baker
That's what I thought, but the date they give for the drawing is definitely
1836. 'Course without knowing anything about the drawing or the artist it's
still not enough to draw a definite conclusion. I just found it interesting
and maybe something more to check out. I'm going to try sending an email to
TOW and see if they can tell me anything more.
Tim
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Date: Fri, 03 Aug 2001 07:35:15 -0700
From: "Ole B. Jensen" <olebjensen@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: List for Women
Ladies,
I remember some time ago that there was a period discussion group for Women,
is this correct and how can one get on it? I have a Lady that is new and
want's to learn.
YMOS
Ole # 718
PS. Magpie don't go there!
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Date: Fri, 03 Aug 2001 11:16:18 -0400
From: manbear <manbear@netonecom.net>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: List for Women
There are two lists that my wife is on.
18cWoman@yahoogroups.com and 19cWomen@yahoogroups.com
To subscribe to them go to:
18cWoman-subscribe@yahoogroups.com
19cWoman-subscribe@yahoogroups.com
YMOS
Manbear
"Ole B. Jensen" wrote:
> Ladies,
> I remember some time ago that there was a period discussion group for Women,
> is this correct and how can one get on it? I have a Lady that is new and
> want's to learn.
> YMOS
> Ole # 718
> PS. Magpie don't go there!
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Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 14:15:10 EDT
From: SWcushing@aol.com
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: List for Women
In a message dated 8/3/01 6:38:40 AM, olebjensen@earthlink.net writes:
<< I have a Lady that is new and
want's to learn.
YMOS
Ole # 718
PS. Magpie don't go there! >>
Gawd....I just bit my tongue! <G>
Magpie
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Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 20:50:59 -0500
From: "BRAD" <trapper@cillnet.com>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: oil cloth
Some of you may know of this sight already, but I found it quite
interesting. Tells a lot about egyptian cotton and
oilcloth.http://www.tentsmiths.com/page34f.htm
Trapper,
Trek'n through time, backwards!
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From: Victoria Pate <vapate@juno.com>
To: <hist_text@lists.xmission.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2001 8:34 PM
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: oil cloth
>
>
> On Mon, 23 Jul 2001 21:33:34 -0700 "Randal Bublitz"
> <rjbublitz@earthlink.net> writes:
> >
> > Magpie, I'm ignorant on fine sheets and such. Is egyptian
> > cotton readily available?
>
> Randy,
> Egyptian cotton has been readily available for say,
> oh..... 'bout 5K years. <G>
> Egyptian cotton sheets can be found at the finer department
> stores. You can also buy Egyptian cotton fabric. Look
> on the net for both.
>
> Victoria
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