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hist_text-digest Thursday, April 19 2001 Volume 01 : Number 787
In this issue:
-áááááá MtMan-List: Commercial/Boarding Axe
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Commercial Question
-áááááá RE: MtMan-List: steer skull
-áááááá Re: RE: MtMan-List: steer skull
-áááááá MtMan-List: Trapping in early 20th Century Utah
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Commercial Question
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: 49er tent
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: steer skull
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: 49er tent
-áááááá MtMan-List: Re: Pyramid Tents
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Commercial Question
-áááááá MtMan-List: "Drive and Dump" or "Park and drop" or Park and Play"
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: steer skull
-áááááá MtMan-List: READ THIS!!! FATAL ADVICE
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: steer skull
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Rope: Buffalo hair horsehair Now Pyramid Tents
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: 49er tent
-áááááá MtMan-List: html garbage
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Commercial Question
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Commercial Question
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Commercial Question
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: steer skull
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: steer skull
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: READ THIS!!! FATAL ADVICE
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Commercial Question
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Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 12:52:47 -0400
From: "D. Miles" <deforge1@bright.net>
Subject: MtMan-List: Commercial/Boarding Axe
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Alan,
Enclosed is a link to a site with some boarding axes.. Good site =
overall. The Spanish one just caught my eye because it included =
measurements....
http://www.imacdigest.com/axe.html
Thanks
D
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Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 12:59:26 EDT
From: SWcushing@aol.com
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Commercial Question
In a message dated 4/19/01 7:49:00 AM, deforge1@bright.net writes:
<< I am debating on doing a couple of copies of Spanish Boarding Axes
C.1733. But before I do them , any interest from you nautical types? >>
Hallo Dennis,
Naw....not me.... but heard you made steels that threw enough sparks to light
a fire on a wet log, in the rainy NW on a windy day. Could use one of them,
and mebbe a camp axe.
Magpie
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Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 11:19:46 -0600
From: "Sickler, Louis L" <louis.l.sickler@lmco.com>
Subject: RE: MtMan-List: steer skull
Walter,
I've had the best luck using drug store peroxide to soak the scraped skull
in. DON"T use bleach. The action never seems to stop until you have a
chalky mass of brittle bone fragments. Also, don't use high concentration
reagent grade peroxide, it will dissolve the bone.
Soak for a day or two. You can get all the hard to remove bits of flesh,
etc. off as they soften up. The result is a smooth, whitish (not pure
white) skull.
I belive there was some discussion on this in the past. Check the list
archives.
Lou Sickler
> -----Original Message-----
> From: walter palmer [SMTP:longbutt@hotmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2001 10:29 AM
> To: hist_text@xmission.com
> Subject: MtMan-List: steer skull
>
> how can i bleach a steer skull so its nice and white ?
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Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 14:19:43 EDT
From: SWzypher@aol.com
Subject: Re: RE: MtMan-List: steer skull
In a message dated 4/19/1 10:28:20 AM, louis.l.sickler@lmco.com writes:
<<how can i bleach a steer skull so its nice and white ?>>
In a taxidermy class: First soak in ammonia to clear out all the "bits and
pieces" - then go to bleach OUTSIDE as the fumes are toxic. The bleach does
its "bleaching" while the ammonia and bleach seem to cancel each other out.
Then - the power nozzle. Never did a cow but it worked good on several
buffalo.
Richard James
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Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 10:58:25 -0700
From: "Alfred E. Holland, Jr." <aholland@unm.edu>
Subject: MtMan-List: Trapping in early 20th Century Utah
Please pardon this query if it is too far off appropriate subject matter.
There is an oft-recited story about Vernal, Utah, trapper Than
Galloway that he trapped his way down the Green River from above
Green River, Wyoming, clear down into Arizona Territory in the late
nineteenth and very early twentieth century, selling his pelts in
Arizona because he could not legally do so in Utah. I'm looking to
confirm the "illegal in Utah" and "legal in Arizona Territory" parts
of the tale. Any ideas on how to get to those old law books without
going to Utah and Arizona?
Thanks,
Al Holland
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Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 15:49:47 -0400
From: "D. Miles" <deforge1@bright.net>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Commercial Question
Magpie Wrote "but heard you made steels that threw enough sparks to
light
a fire on a wet log, in the rainy NW on a windy day. Could use one of them,
and mebbe a camp axe."
>>Magpie... You heard right, I 'spect... I can set you up with that, an axe
and things that you dinnit even know you needed. Just step here into the
parlor, interest you in an adult baverage??<G> Contact me offlist and I will
set you right up...
deforge1@bright.net
D
"Abair ach beagan is abair gu math e"
DOUBLE EDGE FORGE
Knives and Iron Accouterments
http://www.bright.net/~deforge1
"Knowing how is just the beginning."
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Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 16:16:47 -0400
From: Linda Holley <tipis@mediaone.net>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: 49er tent
Ok...what is a park and drop?? Is that different than you have ONe hour to get
out of Dodge..... And that is a mighty small camp.... at "15"x25" "?????
Knowing it is bigger than that, I hope, Do you put the tent around the car??? I
did that once. Drove them crazy.
Linda Holley
"Ole B. Jensen" wrote:
> John,
> That is the same understanding that I have. currently I am using the
> connical tent which dates back to French Military of 1760, it is a one pole
> tent an made by "Tent Smith" it is much better looking than the pyramid in
> my opinion. "Tent Smith" also made my 15"X25" Marque that I use for the
> "Park and Drop" camps they are by far the best tent makers I have ever seen.
> YMOS
> Ole # 718
> ----------
> >From: John Kramer <kramer@kramerize.com>
> >To: hist_text@lists.xmission.com
> >Subject: Re: MtMan-List: 49er tent
> >Date: Wed, Apr 18, 2001, 8:05 PM
> >
>
> >At 09:31 PM 4/18/01 -0500, you wrote:
> >>What did you find about pyramid tents?
> >>Lanney
> >
> >Lanney & whomever first asked about 49er miner tents,
> >
> >Peter & Deborah Marques http://www.tentsmiths.com/
> >
> >know more about tents than anyone else I know. I have been very pleased
> >with everything I've bought from them and impressed by other of their
> >products I've seen. They have the following information on their web site.
> >
> >begin quote............."
> > PYRAMID TENTS
> >Pyramid (also called Miner's) tents have become very popular in the last
> >few years. They have a very thin and short history.
> >Although the design is a natural for contorting canvas, the first reference
> >we know of was a gentleman in the British Army who made every attempt to
> >get the tent style accepted by the quartermaster division. His idea was to
> >have the corners held down with bayonets and the pole to be a Brown Bess
> >musket. Needless to say it was another seventy five years before we
> >actually find the design in use.
> >Parkman mentions the Pyramid tent in his journal of 1846 while on the
> >Oregon Trail. As cameras came into use, the tent is recorded in photographs
> >of cattle drives and with exterior poles next to early motor vehicles at
> >picnic/ camping trips.
> >
> >"end quote..................
> >
> >John...
> >John T. Kramer, maker of:
> >
> >Kramer's Best Antique Improver
> > >>>It makes wood wonderful<<<
> > >>>As good as old!<<<
> >
> ><http://www.kramerize.com/>
> >
> >mail to: <kramer@kramerize.com>
> >
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Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 16:16:23 EDT
From: LODGEPOLE@aol.com
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: steer skull
In a message dated 4/19, longbutt@hotmail.com writes:
<< how can i bleach a steer skull so its nice and white ? >>
Try a bucket of bleach. Worked fer me.
Dave
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Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 15:27:53 -0700
From: "larry pendleton" <yrrw@airmail.net>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: 49er tent
I have a Pyramid Tent, but don't use it much. This arguement has gone on
for years, As far as written documentation, Parkman in 1841 is the
earliest, but Miller depicted what certainly appears to be Pyramids in
several of his original drawings, many of which did not show up in the oil
paintings. There is at least one of the paintings, (I can't remember the
name of it.) that absolutely shows a Pyramid.
My $.02
Pendleton
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Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 14:50:32 -0600
From: "Gene Hickman" <ghickman9@home.com>
Subject: MtMan-List: Re: Pyramid Tents
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Here's what I recieved back as an answer from the good folks at Panther =
Primitives:=20
The "other vague references" in our catalog listed refers to paintings =
and other references Sam had looked at 20 years ago and we can't locate =
them.. There is a painting by Alfred Jacob Miller in 1837 that shows =
what could be a pyramid tent.=20
Good luck with your search. I'll be watching the mlml discussion group =
to see what you come up with.
Someone had said they remember a Miller painting with what looked like a =
pyramid tent. Someone out there with copies of the Miller works take a =
look and see what you can find. The quest goes on.
YMOS
Ghosting Wolf AKA Gene Hickman
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Here's what I recieved back as an =
answer from the=20
good folks at Panther Primitives: </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2></FONT></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" =
size=3D3><STRONG><EM>The=20
"other vague references" in our catalog listed refers to paintings and =
other=20
references Sam had looked at 20 years ago and we can't locate them.. =
There is a=20
painting by Alfred Jacob Miller in 1837 that shows what could be a =
pyramid tent.=20
</EM></STRONG></FONT></FONT></DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><FONT=20
face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3>
<DIV><BR><STRONG><EM>Good luck with your search. I'll be watching the =
mlml=20
discussion group to see what you come up with.</EM></STRONG></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Someone had said they remember a Miller =
painting=20
with what looked like a pyramid tent. Someone out there with copies of =
the=20
Miller works take a look and see what you can find. The quest goes=20
on.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>YMOS</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Ghosting Wolf AKA Gene=20
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Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 14:40:36 -0700
From: "Roger Lahti" <rtlahti@email.msn.com>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Commercial Question
D.
Remember, he likes em shiny. Make sure he gets a proper AMM striker even
though he don't have a number yet. <G>
Capt. Lahti
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From: "D. Miles" <deforge1@bright.net>
To: <hist_text@lists.xmission.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2001 12:49 PM
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Commercial Question
> Magpie Wrote "but heard you made steels that threw enough sparks to
> light
> a fire on a wet log, in the rainy NW on a windy day. Could use one of
them,
> and mebbe a camp axe."
>
>
> >>Magpie... You heard right, I 'spect... I can set you up with that, an
axe
> and things that you dinnit even know you needed. Just step here into the
> parlor, interest you in an adult baverage??<G> Contact me offlist and I
will
> set you right up...
> deforge1@bright.net
>
> D
>
> "Abair ach beagan is abair gu math e"
> DOUBLE EDGE FORGE
> Knives and Iron Accouterments
> http://www.bright.net/~deforge1
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Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 14:54:43 -0700
From: "Roger Lahti" <rtlahti@email.msn.com>
Subject: MtMan-List: "Drive and Dump" or "Park and drop" or Park and Play"
Linda,
Not sure what Ole' meant by it but we call any doings you can drive up to
your camp site with your rig and drop your camp off, parking your rig out at
the parking lot, a "Drive and Dump". Means you don't have to carry your
stuff in which pretty much precludes it's gona be totally Primitive if you
can haul a pickup load in. The Rocky Mt. Nationals and such are "Drive and
Dumps" with a slightly higher standard than a "Porkydo" "Drive and Dump"
where "Tin Tipi's" are mixed in with the canvas tipis and not much in the
way of modern is forbidden. Does that help? <G>
YMOS
Capt. Lahti'
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Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 17:11:27 -0500
From: "Robert T. Broadway" <21stcentury@altamontks.com>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: steer skull
Boil it in a little dish soap.....NO CLOROX.....NO BLEACH.......NO LAUNDRY
DETERGENT.
Make sure to keep track of the teeth...they will loosen.
Do not Leave the skull in the water for days to "loosen" it up.
Get some 10% H2O2...Hydroden Peroxide........and immerse for a day.
All My Best:
Robert Broadway
Executive Director
21st Century Homestead, Inc.
Terra Incognita
Operations Officer
Pelagic Shark Research Foundation
www.pelagic.org
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>To: hist_text@xmission.com
>Subject: MtMan-List: steer skull
>Date: Thu, Apr 19, 2001, 11:29 AM
>
> how can i bleach a steer skull so its nice and white ?
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Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 17:17:00 -0500
From: "Robert T. Broadway" <21stcentury@altamontks.com>
Subject: MtMan-List: READ THIS!!! FATAL ADVICE
>From R. James:
" First soak in ammonia to clear out all the "bits and
pieces" - then go to bleach OUTSIDE as the fumes are toxic. The bleach does
its "bleaching" while the ammonia and bleach seem to cancel each other out."
AMMONIA AND CHLORINE BLEACH MIXED TOGETHER MAKES A !!!!D E A D L Y!!! GAS.
DO NOT DO THIS...UNLESS YOU WISH TO DIE.
All My Best:
Robert Broadway
Executive Director
21st Century Homestead, Inc.
Terra Incognita
Operations Officer
Pelagic Shark Research Foundation
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>To: hist_text@lists.xmission.com
>Subject: Re: RE: MtMan-List: steer skull
>Date: Thu, Apr 19, 2001, 1:19 PM
>
>
> In a message dated 4/19/1 10:28:20 AM, louis.l.sickler@lmco.com writes:
>
> <<how can i bleach a steer skull so its nice and white ?>>
>
> In a taxidermy class: First soak in ammonia to clear out all the "bits and
> pieces" - then go to bleach OUTSIDE as the fumes are toxic. The bleach does
> its "bleaching" while the ammonia and bleach seem to cancel each other out.
> Then - the power nozzle. Never did a cow but it worked good on several
> buffalo.
>
> Richard James
>
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Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 18:45:39 -0400
From: tom roberts <troberts@gdi.net>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: steer skull
Walter,
I'm told that in Mexico they
bury them and let the bacteria
to the dirty work.
Tom
walter palmer wrote:
>
> how can i bleach a steer skull so its nice and white ?
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Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 18:55:21 -0400
From: tom roberts <troberts@gdi.net>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Rope: Buffalo hair horsehair Now Pyramid Tents
I've got a panther 12x12 pyramid and love
the convenience for those events where
such a shelter is appropriate. Easily
enough room for 4, 6 if you're good friends.
Even with a vent flap at the top, they
will not draft well enough to support a
fire inside, unlike a lodge.
Alternately and more economically, a large
piece of canvas can be set up any number of
ways using whatever may be handy (sticks,
rocks, trees, etc) and should be correct for
just about anywhere.
Tom
Gene Hickman wrote:
>
> From: "Victoria Pate" <vapate@juno.com>
> To: <hist_text@lists.xmission.com>
>
> << What did you all find out about the Pyramid tents?
> The write up about them in Panther Primitives say
> they are PC, but I've heard otherwise from several
> esteemed members of this list. I'm thinking about
> buying one.>>
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Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 19:33:36 -0400
From: Linda Holley <tipis@mediaone.net>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: 49er tent
Ok....now I get it....we just call it the one hour and get out of camp rule
after dumping all your stuff. I have been out West several times and had not
heard they Park and Dump term. And when I said we had the car in camp....It
was in the tent which covered it and with room to spare. Couldn't get it out
of camp (the car). Got stuck.
So you cover up your mistakes.
Linda Holley
larry pendleton wrote:
> I have a Pyramid Tent, but don't use it much. This arguement has gone on
> for years, As far as written documentation, Parkman in 1841 is the
> earliest, but Miller depicted what certainly appears to be Pyramids in
> several of his original drawings, many of which did not show up in the oil
> paintings. There is at least one of the paintings, (I can't remember the
> name of it.) that absolutely shows a Pyramid.
>
> My $.02
> Pendleton
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Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 18:44:01 -0500
From: "Frank Fusco" <frankf@centurytel.net>
Subject: MtMan-List: html garbage
Sure would be nice to have all that html garbage gone from the digest.
Usually it is caused by incorrect settings with MS Outlook Express.
To change: go to 'tools', then go to 'options', then go to 'send' then
change the 'mail preferences' from 'html' to 'plain text' , OK out of all
that and ye should be fine.
Frank G. Fusco
Mountain Home, Arkansas
http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/ozarksmuzzleloaders
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Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 19:45:45 -0400
From: "D. Miles" <deforge1@bright.net>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Commercial Question
Remember, he likes em shiny. Make sure he gets a proper AMM striker even
though he don't have a number yet. <G>
>>>Rog.. He has to get those thru Crazy... Not meeeee.... But I WILL be glad
to build him a nice one RIGHT in his price range..<G>
D
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Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 19:56:13 EDT
From: SWcushing@aol.com
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Commercial Question
In a message dated 4/19/01 2:35:20 PM, rtlahti@email.msn.com writes:
<< Make sure he gets a proper AMM striker even
though he don't have a number yet. <G>
>>
Is that them "magnesium" ones I see at the gun shows??!!? .... or the propane
fired one. Aw, come on Capt, I'm just kidding...... geez.....
Magpie
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Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 20:16:32 EDT
From: SWcushing@aol.com
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Commercial Question
In a message dated 4/19/01 4:47:03 PM, deforge1@bright.net writes:
<< But I WILL be glad
to build him a nice one RIGHT in his price range..<G> >>
Haaaaa......Capt Lahti thinks I'm a rich airline pilot! Hell.....I work for
drinks and tips....may even qualify for food stamps. A good blacksmith would
whip one of them axes together cheap just so I could keep my poor chillens
warm wid the brush I could chop wid it....
Magpie
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Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 20:33:39 EDT
From: SWzypher@aol.com
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: steer skull
walter palmer wrote:
>
> how can i bleach a steer skull so its nice and white ?>>
In a message dated 4/19/1 03:46:42 PM, troberts@gdi.net writes:
<<I'm told that in Mexico they
bury them and let the bacteria
to the dirty work.
Tom
That's the part I left out when I wrote about Clorox and ammonia - and
subsequently got jumped on . . . .FIRST bury them in the ground within two or
three inches from the surface - damp - and let the carnivor beetles go to
town on it. They are little solid black guys mebbe so a quarter of an inch
long. Leave it there for several weeks in the Rockies - days in coastal
Virginia. Then you treat them (the bones - not the beetles) with the ammonia
and then the clorox and then you die from the fumes. The earlier
gentleman's words of caution are in good taste as I have read several times
of grave illnesses and fatalities with American housewives for using this
combination in a rather confined bathroom area while cleaning and sanitizing.
Probably a good idea to rinse out a good part of the amonia before the
charge of Clorox in view of what has been said. Again, my source is a class
in taxidermy. The taxidermist that taught it, by the way is dead. Probably
a combination of the above chemicals, booze and cigarettes or he would be
well into his 90s by now.
Most - or at least somewhat - Sincerely
Richard James
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Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 19:41:49 -0500
From: "21st Century Homestead, Inc." <21stcentury@altamontks.com>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: steer skull
Chlorine or Chlorox will destroy the bone...It will turn it to chalk in a
short time. Stay away from it.
Simple boiling in a big wash tub with a gentle DISH soap will get you 97% of
the way.
A little H2O2 will do the rest.
Seal the bone with a 50-50 mixture of water and Elmer's glue.
This technique is used in most big osteology collections.
Cheers:
Robert B.
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From: <SWzypher@aol.com>
To: <hist_text@lists.xmission.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2001 7:33 PM
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: steer skull
> walter palmer wrote:
> >
> > how can i bleach a steer skull so its nice and white ?>>
>
> In a message dated 4/19/1 03:46:42 PM, troberts@gdi.net writes:
>
> <<I'm told that in Mexico they
> bury them and let the bacteria
> to the dirty work.
>
> Tom
> That's the part I left out when I wrote about Clorox and ammonia - and
> subsequently got jumped on . . . .FIRST bury them in the ground within two
or
> three inches from the surface - damp - and let the carnivor beetles go to
> town on it. They are little solid black guys mebbe so a quarter of an
inch
> long. Leave it there for several weeks in the Rockies - days in coastal
> Virginia. Then you treat them (the bones - not the beetles) with the
ammonia
> and then the clorox and then you die from the fumes. The earlier
> gentleman's words of caution are in good taste as I have read several
times
> of grave illnesses and fatalities with American housewives for using this
> combination in a rather confined bathroom area while cleaning and
sanitizing.
> Probably a good idea to rinse out a good part of the amonia before the
> charge of Clorox in view of what has been said. Again, my source is a
class
> in taxidermy. The taxidermist that taught it, by the way is dead.
Probably
> a combination of the above chemicals, booze and cigarettes or he would be
> well into his 90s by now.
> Most - or at least somewhat - Sincerely
> Richard James
>
>
>
>
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Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 20:42:57 -0700
From: "larry pendleton" <yrrw@airmail.net>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: READ THIS!!! FATAL ADVICE
AMMONIA AND CHLORINE BLEACH MIXED TOGETHER MAKES A !!!!D E A D L Y!!! GAS.
DO NOT DO THIS...UNLESS YOU WISH TO DIE.
All My Best:
Robert Broadway
>> Guys, he is absolutely right. DO NOT GO THERE ! Any residue of either
one when mixed with the other will knock your lights out.
Pendleton
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Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 19:09:55 -0700
From: "Roger Lahti" <rtlahti@email.msn.com>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Commercial Question
> Is that them "magnesium" ones I see at the gun shows??!!? .... or the
propane
> fired one. Aw, come on Capt, I'm just kidding...... geez.....
>
> Magpie
Brother Jeff Smith, are you out there? We got a problem here.
Capt. Lahti'
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