I would appreciate being educated on what is considered the protocol for
an individual to identify himself with a 'camp name'. For a long time I
have used one but at other times have been called another. I do know that
there is a practice of a name being "given" at a ceremony but I have never
witnessed such a ceremony.
I also am aware that, if anyone responds, we may see some wildly
divergent points of view on this question.
Now I will tell the two names and how they came about.
For many years, I have identified myself as "Bearclaw". Perhaps not
original but I like it for several reasons. I like and respect bears and the
way they conduct themselves. I choose that name because I believe it
reflects my personality. Bears tend to go about their business quietly and
will slip away at the first sign of trouble. However, if one is cornered or
their offspring are threatened they will fight and defend with a ferocity
that is almost unstoppable. I am often perceived as mild mannered and
retiring and will leave the scene if there is a possibility of some kind of
violence.
However, if my family or my well being is threatened and there is no
other recourse I will defend vigorously with whatever means are at my
disposal, hands, knife, hawk or gun until the attacker is subdued. No
quarter.
That is that name story.
The other camp name that some have called me is "Short Grass". I do not
like it and do not use it.
At one time we had a local group of 'skinners who started using that to
address me. It came about because some of the group could not understand or
pronounce my last name, Fusco. Some thought it was 'fescue' like the
pasture grass. From that came "Short Grass". Some local guys still call me
that and I take no offense but I never introduce myself with that moniker.
OK, pitch in. Do I have a 'proper' camp name or not?
What is the accepted custom?
Frank G. Fusco
Mountain Home, Arkansas
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Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 11:14:15 -0500
From: "Addison Miller" <admiller@brier.net>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Ojibway style snowshoes
Check www.sportsmansguide.com They have some advertised in one of their
catalogs.
Ad Miller
Subject: MtMan-List: Ojibway style snowshoes
> I'm looking for some Ojibway style snowshoes, with rawhide lacing.
> Anyone out there no of a good place with a good price?
>
> So far the best I've found is at Andriondac Outdoors for $84.95 without
> bindings. These are 12x60.
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Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 11:20:43 -0500
From: "Dennis Miles" <deforge1@bright.net>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: camp names
If you gave yourself a "camp name" it would, in my somewhat dubious circle
of "friends" , seem some what egotistical & even pompus and would not stand
for very damned long....One does not choose his/her camp name.. It is given
and if it sticks, you are stuck with it until you do something that creates
a need for change, either an honorable action, mannerism, characteristic or
something you did that defies the fact that you are supposedly a thinking,
rational being.
D
"It doesn't matter HOW MANY "skydives" you've got behind you..
Until you have stepped out of a door of an airplane in total darkness
at twelve hundred and fifty feet wearing ninety-five pounds of
equipment and forty-two pounds of parachute. You are STILL a leg...."
AIRBORNE
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Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 10:33:35 -0600
From: "Best, Dianne" <dbest@hydro.mb.ca>
Subject: MtMan-List: Beer
Larry Huber wrote: "I always figured those "Injuns" came from Viking stock!"
Well, again from the oral history, my Grandmother told me there were
blue-eyed people among the Iroquois before Columbus came. The cultural
history said the Europeans were received "too well" because they looked so
much like our own people (just a bit smaller and a lot stinkier! - sorry! -
the Europeans didn't bathe often and most native people had some form of
"sweat lodge", so the new arrivals were often perceived as "dirty")
As an aside, I did hear of a linguistic study of Native languages which was
attempting to determine when various groups of people "split" into two
groups through rate of evolution of their languages. The interesting thing
that struck me from the categorization of the language families was that one
Native language in the American southeast was only related to one other
language in the world - from the area of NORTHERN SPAIN! (I wish I could
find the reference to that linguistic study again!!!) Figure that out!
To reiterate, on the subject of fermented beverages, Maple sap/sugar was a
very important part of the Iroquoian diet and highly valued, not just as a
commodity but also having a spiritual element. Although some would/may have
been allowed to ferment, such a use would have been seen as extravagant.
Also, I do not know what percentage of alcohol would have been attainable
without sterile handling, vapour traps, etc. I have no doubt that the
European beverages were WAY more potent and much more plentiful than the
local products.
I will do some more research and see if I can find the traditional name for
fermented Maple sap.
Jin-o-ta-ka (Dianne)
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Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 12:04:26 EST
From: Wind1838@aol.com
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Smokes??
I bought two clay pipes this summer. One (ceramic) was made by the potter, Sprinkle - from Texas. Lanney introduced me to his work a couple of years ago and I have become a collector.
One consideration is the length of the stem. You can buy them where the bowl simply fits into the stem, which helps packing.
Laura Jean
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Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 12:10:47 EST
From: LivingInThePast@aol.com
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: camp names
Frank, It sounds like you just haven't righteously screwed-up yet! Are you
hiding a story that will get you an appropriate name? Anybody seen or heard
of anything we could use against him? <GGG> Come'on guys, spit it out....
Barney (aptly camp-named Barney Fife, in ceremony, after a shooting
incident (read accident), and yep, now I'm only allowed to carry one bullet,
in my pocket! LOLOL
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Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 13:07:50 EST
From: SWzypher@aol.com
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: alternatives for brain tanning leather
In a message dated 11/30/0 08:32:22 AM, GHickman@aol.com writes:
<<Then he uses the fabric softner and water. He used to soak it for several
days, stirring several times a day. >>
Regarding fabric softner and substitute brain-tanning:
In a visit with one of the finest tanners known in this region I was told
this: The hides, after brain tanning, but before stretching can be soaked in
water with fabric softener for a better product. This from Shoshone Walace
Zundel. His wife, Hazel, immediately remarked, "don't leave them in there
too long, though, or they will ruin". Walace's comment, "this is true, but
if you do it right, it sure makes them smell good!". There are no details
here but just the comments of a couple of people who knew their business but
have since gone under.
R. James
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Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 13:26:21 -0500 (EST)
From: SpiritoftheWood@webtv.net
Subject: MtMan-List: Re: Mttn. Man list Smokes?
Dianne, don't smoke your hand roll tobacco in your clay, as it burns
hotter then Hades!!! Get some Straight Virginia (very period but still a
bit hot!) or better yet a natural "Cigar Leave" Blend for a cooler
smoke! Not to nag but.. quite those dang Cigarettes,not very period
correct and a bit contrary to traditional Native beliefs,please don't
take offence as this comes from and ex-cigarette(15 years) smoker and
fellow person of Native decent, who now enjoys the occasional Pipe or
Cigar!
I remain ,
Michael A. Smith
"In Wildness Is the Preservation of the World" Thoreau
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Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 16:18:48 EST
From: LODGEPOLE@aol.com
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: alternatives for brain tanning leather
In a message dated 11/29/00, tphsb@earthlink.net writes:
<< Iam asking this for a friend of mine. does anybody out there know of
anything other than brains that can be used as a substitute for brain tanning
hides? I have heard of lard, or naptha soap. if I've heard right, how are
they used?
thanks Tom >>
You need not use a substitute. just use brains. If the hides you have came
just as hides and not from a deer, meaning you have not got the dee'r's
brains....just head to the butcher and pick up some brains. A cow's brains
will tan the hide just as well from what I have read.
Longshot
"Longshot's Rendezvous Homepage"
(Newly Redesigned)
http://members.aol.com/lodgepole/longshot.html
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Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 14:15:09 -0700
From: louis.l.sickler@lmco.com
Subject: RE: MtMan-List: Smokes??
Ho the camp,
I don't know if this is the one Dennis is referring to, but here is a good site
Olde World Clay's
http://www.bytor.com/pipes/pipes.htm
Lou Sickler
Colorado
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dennis Miles [SMTP:deforge1@bright.net]
> Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2000 1:21 PM
> To: hist_text@lists.xmission.com
> Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Smokes??
>
> Laura
> I got a couple of clays from a fella in Canada that does them with pipe
> clay, in the traditional manner . Best doggone pipes I ever had. I will hunt
> up his website and post it, if I can find it.. Nice fella to deal with..
> D
>
> "Abair ach beagan is abair gu math e"
> DOUBLE EDGE FORGE
> http://www.bright.net/~deforge1
> I Now Offer Gift Certificates
>
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Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 16:31:49 -0500
From: "Dennis Miles" <deforge1@bright.net>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Smokes??
Louis,
That's the one.... Finest, coolest smoking clays made.. NO comparison to
those "clays" that are sold at most doins... The price is awful reasonable
if you stick to the simple models. And it is real nice to just put it in the
coals at night and in the morning you have a fresh, clean pipe to enjoy. A
sheer joy, inded.
D
> Olde World Clay's
>
> http://www.bytor.com/pipes/pipes.htm
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Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 14:39:41 -0700
From: louis.l.sickler@lmco.com
Subject: RE: MtMan-List: alternatives for brain tanning leather
Ho the list,
This has been my thoughts on this whole thread. Once again, trying to get around or find a substitute ends up being harder than the original method. More often than not, I don't get home from the hunting trip with the brains from the animals killed. Even grocery stores will order you in some brains, albeit with sometimes funny expressions, but once they get to know you it almost becomes a point of humor.
Yes, beef brains do a great job. It seems I always need more than the animal would have provided anyway. They are so cheap, I use them once and discard them. More environmentally friendly than some of the "commercial" methods that contain chromium, etc. Would everyone dispose of the waste with proper care?
So, all you folks wanting to tan, use brains and go for it.
Also, anyone in the Colorado front range who would like a hands on demo, contact me off list. I can always use some help getting stuff tanned.
