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Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2000 14:25:53 EST
From: CTOAKES@aol.com
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Smokes??
In a message dated 12/1/00 10:13:40 AM Eastern Standard Time,
dbest@hydro.mb.ca writes:
<< that fire is sacred and that is explained to first-timers - it isn't a
"garbage disposal". >> My wife feels the same about her fire. It is for
cooking and as many campers across the NE will attest to her food preparation
is a religion. If you put something in a cook fire it becomes one with the
food (the smell or the chemicals/vapors). Many hard core smokers now carry
hidden empty Sucrets tins to put their cigarette butts in rather than loose
eating privileges at her fire.
But no one I know would complain about another person smoking in camp unless
the smoker is not respectful of others or the situation (i.e.: you would not
light up on the march as part of a military unit at Ft. Niagara or Ft. Ti.
But you could light up your pipe if you were in the militia or ranger units
and march it.
YHOS
C.T. Oakes
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Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2000 17:42:11 EST
From: Traphand@aol.com
Subject: MtMan-List: moths and powder horns
Hi all,
Got looking at some of powderhorns i own and found worm holes in
some.OK let me pick your minds what do i do to rid my self of the worms
attacking my horns.next thing i need to know whats a good old finish that i
could use cover the horn with .and lets not say boiled linseed oil. hope you
all can help.And as the name thing going i believe someone should give you
the name for some thing that happened are you did.like how i got mine
330 conibear,beaver trapping .
Traphand
Rick Petzoldt
Traphand@aol.com
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Date: Fri, 01 Dec 2000 17:02:47 -0700
From: Angela Gottfred <agottfre@telusplanet.net>
Subject: MtMan-List: Re: Camp names
For those who want an Authentic Indian Name of their own, go to
http://radio.cbc.ca/programs/deaddog/
Good luck!
Your humble & obedient servant,
Angela Gottfred
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Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2000 20:33:23 -0600
From: "Ratcliff" <rat@htcomp.net>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: moths and powder horns
And as the name thing going i believe someone should give you=20
the name for some thing that happened are you did.like how i got mine
330 conibear
Those dang conibear traps are mighty dangerous...you're lucky to have a =
hand. Or do you? My uncle was a federal trapper for 35 years and he =
can tell more stories than you remember. He is STILL leary of a =
conibear.
Lanney Ratcliff
ps: His best story is not about trapping but how he ripped a big chunk =
of meat off his middle knuckle by busting a Shore Patrolman in the mouth =
on VJ day, precipating a near riot in San Diego. =20
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Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2000 22:13:38 -0500 (EST)
From: JONDMARINETTI@webtv.net (Jon Marinetti)
Subject: MtMan-List: Beaver news item
USA Today, Fri. 12-01-00, p.13A.
Norfolk, Virginia - Beavers were hunted to near extinction in Virginia
by 1911, but the population was restored 30 years later by importing
beavers. But now beavers have become victims of their own success.
They have grown so strong that the Department of Agriculture's Wildlife
Services has been hired to kill and control 2,000 beavers next year.
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from Michigan
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Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2000 22:30:32 -0500 (EST)
From: JONDMARINETTI@webtv.net (Jon Marinetti)
Subject: MtMan-List: ... [OT] ... Man, Dog (and Murphy)
Detroit News, Fri. 12-01-00, p.4G (article by Fred Girard)
Police confirm that a man from Bay City was trying to pose his dog with
his shotgun for a snapshot, making it appear the dog was a hunter.
Somehow the dog fired the gun, wounding the man in the leg. Since the
man was not actually hunting at the time, or on his way to or from the
field, the injury will not be included in state statistics, DNR hunter
safety administrator Suzanne Koppelo said.
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from Michigan
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Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2000 23:28:39 EST
From: HikingOnThru@cs.com
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Beaver news item
Hard to believe, but I think the lil buggers can survive just about anywhere.
Here in SC, my father took a walk on the "back 40" several years ago and
noticed that we had a pond that was not there before. Beavers had moved in
and damned up our creek. Nice pond, too. Unfortunately, we got a real heavy
rain not long after (close to seven inches in 72 hours when a hurricane came
thru lower state SC) and the dam and beavers were GONE! I have even seen
them take up residence in a manmade pond by the roadside on the way to the
local landfill. It is really nice to be quiet and watch them swim around
till they spot you and go underwater!!!! Anyone ever had any luck trapping
beaver?
- -C.Kent
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Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2000 22:43:54 -0800
From: Randal J Bublitz <randybublitz@juno.com>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Beaver news item
C.Kent, I trapped beaver once. A licenced trapper, friend of
mine, took me out for a weekend. He spent the first afternoon teaching
me. We checked his traps the next morning , and found a beaver. I
skinned and butchered it. We ate it. That day I made a land set, and a
water set, based on what he taught me. The next morning we checked our
traps. Both of mine were 'sprung'. The water set got away, but the land
set was holding a beaver for me. I shot it, close range with a pistol,
then retrieved my beaver. I skinned and butchered that beaver. It was a
good weekend, I learned alot. My friend was contacted by the Land
Management people, and advised that this area was overrun with Mr Beaver.
He was helping the land Dept., and profiting at the same time. Being a
'suburban' Mountain Man, I had mixed feelings about this experience. I
ate the beaver, but with mixed emotions. I have to say , I didn't have a
great appetite. I'm not used to killing something, ripping its skin off,
butchering it, then eating it. But- I am very glad I had this
experience. It is something I need to know , as a wanna be Mountain Man.
If you have the opportunity- Do It!. Especially under these
circumstances. These beaver needed to be culled, as the over population
was damaging 100 year old cottonwoods. If we didn't take some beaver,
the land mgt. people would have, and they wouldn't have used the animals.
My friend marketed the hides, I learned alot. It was a good experience.
Hope this story is of some use. hardtack
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Date: Sat, 2 Dec 2000 07:06:27 -0600
From: trapper@cillnet.com (Brad Everett)
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Beaver news item
Yea , I heard they used to trap a few back in the Old days!
Trapper,
Trek'n through time, backwards!
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From: <HikingOnThru@cs.com>
Anyone ever had any luck trapping
> beaver?
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Date: Sat, 2 Dec 2000 08:07:39 -0600
From: trapper@cillnet.com (Brad Everett)
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Beaver news item
Sorry bout that last post, just couldn't resist. Trapping
Trapper,
Trek'n through time, backwards!
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From: Brad Everett <trapper@cillnet.com>
To: <hist_text@lists.xmission.com>
Sent: Saturday, December 02, 2000 7:06 AM
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Beaver news item
> Yea , I heard they used to trap a few back in the Old days!
> Trapper,
> Trek'n through time, backwards!
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Date: Sat, 2 Dec 2000 09:40:55 -0500
From: "CrookedHand" <chand@alltel.net>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: moths and powder horns
Got a suggestion for you taht works sometimes... make a mild solution of
bleach and warm water and wash the horns to kipp the bacteria left by the
moths... use a toothbrush on the pits and make sre they are cleaned out of
all the dust and remaining bacteria.
set them in the sun to air dry for a few hours. THEN get some johnson;s
paste wax or any good wood paste wax and apply several coats of it, being
sure to fillin the pits. remove all the excess AFTER it is DRY.. ALL of
it..... then do it about twice more to make sure..
future moths won't even be tempted to chew the wax!
IMHO
Mark "Crooked Hand" Toigo /aka/ Wethlee-EnkΘ
http://www.geocities.com/Yosemite/Rapids/8699
http://members.xoom.com/crookedhand/gallery.htm
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From: <Traphand@aol.com>
To: <hist_text@lists.xmission.com>; <trek-list@euler.gcsu.edu>
Sent: Friday, December 01, 2000 5:42 PM
Subject: MtMan-List: moths and powder horns
> Hi all,
> Got looking at some of powderhorns i own and found worm holes in
> some.OK let me pick your minds what do i do to rid my self of the worms
> attacking my horns.next thing i need to know whats a good old finish that
i
> could use cover the horn with .and lets not say boiled linseed oil. hope
you
> all can help.And as the name thing going i believe someone should give you
> the name for some thing that happened are you did.like how i got mine
> 330 conibear,beaver trapping .
>
> Traphand
> Rick Petzoldt
> Traphand@aol.com
>
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Date: Sat, 02 Dec 2000 10:08:16 -0600
From: Todd <farseer@swbell.net>
Subject: RE: MtMan-List: Beaver news item
My blood brother, like me, is a programmer for a software firm. He =
also works for the local land management bureaus here around Kansas City =
trappin' beaver on the weekends and evenings. They punch holes in =
levies, clog drainage ditches and flood fields, and are thick as theives =
along the Missouri right now. He taught me to skin and flesh one fine =
afternoon. I have to admit, it was a different experience, but one I =
appreciated. Said pelt is now a cushion I sit on in camp, bad a job a =
skinning as I did, it's still MINE, and something not every man can say =
they've done. Right now is trapping season here in Missouri, and =
he's saved his entire vacation to go run his lines. I reckon I'll see =
him in a couple of weeks =3D) =20
I pesonally think he was born about 175 years too late.
Todd
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Date: Sat, 2 Dec 2000 16:24:23 EST
From: TrapRJoe@aol.com
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Beaver news item
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I did a TV program with the State Wildlife Dept.a few years back called a
restocking program to successful. It was about Beaver. I showed them a half
mile of county road under water. Deep enough I put my canoe in and floated
over the fence on each side of the road, ( 5 wire). We have 77 counties and
the are now listed as a nuisance in all counties. Again a few years back I
trapped one area and in two weeks my partner and myself caught 72 beaver. We
trapped this area for three weeks and it never slowed down, we just didn't
count again. When we left there were still enough beaver you couldn't tell
we had been there.
Also the 330 conabear is a tough trap and you must be careful, but I
have never heard of anyone losing an arm or any other body part to one.
Nevertheless they can be dangerous, but then again so is water trapping of
most any type.
TrapRJoe
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<HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2>I did a TV program with the State Wildlife Dept.a few years back called a <BR>restocking program to successful. It was about Beaver. I showed them a half <BR>mile of county road under water. Deep enough I put my canoe in and floated <BR>over the fence on each side of the road, ( 5 wire). We have 77 counties and <BR>the are now listed as a nuisance in all counties. Again a few years back I <BR>trapped one area and in two weeks my partner and myself caught 72 beaver. We <BR>trapped this area for three weeks and it never slowed down, we just didn't <BR>count again. When we left there were still enough beaver you couldn't tell <BR>we had been there.
<BR> Also the 330 conabear is a tough trap and you must be careful, but I <BR>have never heard of anyone losing an arm or any other body part to one. <BR>Nevertheless they can be dangerous, but then again so is water trapping of <BR>most any type.
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Date: Sat, 2 Dec 2000 22:30:15 -0600
From: hawknest4@juno.com
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: camp names
On Thu, 30 Nov 2000 11:20:43 -0500 "Dennis Miles" <deforge1@bright.net>
writes:
> D
>
> "It doesn't matter HOW MANY "skydives" you've got behind you..
> Until you have stepped out of a door of an airplane in total
> darkness
> at twelve hundred and fifty feet wearing ninety-five pounds of
> equipment and forty-two pounds of parachute. You are STILL a
