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From: owner-hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com (hist_text-digest)
To: hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com
Subject: hist_text-digest V1 #669
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hist_text-digest Thursday, November 9 2000 Volume 01 : Number 669
In this issue:
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Re: Trapping
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Seeking info....
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Re: Trapping
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Re: Trapping
-áááááá RE: MtMan-List: Lewis & Clark Memento Threatened.
-áááááá RE: MtMan-List: Lewis & Clark Memento Threatened.
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Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2000 09:58:57 -0700
From: Todd Glover <tetontodd@juno.com>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Re: Trapping
That's awful to hear Laura. Not surprising though as the liberal wave is
sweeping the country. Didn't Washington go to Gore?
"Teton" Todd D. Glover
Poison River Party, #1784
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Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2000 12:04:30 EST
From: CTOAKES@aol.com
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Seeking info....
In a message dated 11/9/00 1:16:54 AM Eastern Standard Time, SWzypher@aol.com
writes:
<<
<<Pedersoli Kentucky or
a Pedersoli Pennsylvania Rifle, >>
No experiance with the other brands but we own a Pdesoli Pennsylvania flint
in .36 and it is a good gun. Bought it used with a cracked main spring and
had no problem getting replacement parts. Looks proper and shoots well.
Y.H.O.S.
C.T. Oakes
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Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2000 09:31:34 -0800
From: "Gail Carbiener" <cypmcgc@oregontrail.net>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Re: Trapping
Well here in Oregon, we defeated the "confort traps" initiative by 59% to
41%. Gets closer every year.
gail
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Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2000 8:26 AM
Subject: MtMan-List: Re: Trapping
> Well, out here in good ole Washington state the animal rights folks got
out
> the vote Tuesday. Traps have been outlawed. Critters, including moles,
must
> now be sweet talked politely to enter a kinder-gentler cage -- and their
> entry must be entirely their own idea. These animals must be old enough
to
> be accountable for their choices. Wonder what Ashley would have said
about
> that?
>
> Laura Jean
>
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Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2000 09:34:29 -0800
From: "Gail Carbiener" <cypmcgc@oregontrail.net>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Re: Trapping
I should have included this summary of the measure. Sorry
gail carbiener
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MEASURE 97: Animal traps
What it would do: The measure, a proposed statutory change, would prohibit
the use of steel-jawed leghold traps and other body-gripping traps to
capture mammals. It also would prohibit the sale, purchase, barter or
exchange of raw fur from mammals caught in such traps. The use of certain
body-gripping traps for health and safety, animal control, research and
endangered species protection would be allowed with a permit from the Oregon
Department of Fish and Wildlife. The measure also would prohibit the use of
two poisons, sodium fluoroacetate and sodium cyanide.
Who's behind it: Former U.S. Rep. Elizabeth Furse, D-Ore., and Jennifer
Kirkpatrick of Scappoose.
Financial effect: Using alternative means of animal control would cost the
state about $455,000 annually, state fiscal analysts say. A permit system
would cost $655,000 each year, with a $30,000 start-up cost. Direct revenue
to the state would decrease by $36,500 with the elimination of fur-trapping
license fees.
Background: A similar ban on traps failed in Oregon in 1980, but a growing
animal protection movement across the country has Measure 97 supporters
confident of their chances this fall. Anti-trapping measures recently passed
in Arizona, California, Colorado and Massachusetts. Washington voters will
decide this fall on a measure identical to Oregon's.
> That's awful to hear Laura. Not surprising though as the liberal wave is
> sweeping the country. Didn't Washington go to Gore?
>
> "Teton" Todd D. Glover
> Poison River Party, #1784
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Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2000 10:41:53 -0700
From: "Walt Foster" <Wfoster@cw2.com>
Subject: RE: MtMan-List: Lewis & Clark Memento Threatened.
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Hello Buck and Concho and others concerned with this important chunk of
history, PompÆs Pillar.
I have a copy of the digital image that was show by Tim Urbaniak on Sept
15th during Archaeology Week events at the Peter Yegen Jr. Yellowstone
County Museum that shows the scale of the proposed grain loading terminal
near Pompeys Pillar. This photo was carried by the Billings OUTPOST on
9/27/00. If someone has a place to hang it. I can see a copy over. I have
one in color and the black and white which was printed by the OUTPOST.
It is going to take more than contacting Montana environmental officials.
The heads of United Grain are in the best position to save one of the crown
jewels from this visual pollution and evident lack of historical
consideration. They made the decision in Portland to go ahead and ruin the
view. You two ought to see this picture and what they are going to do.
Makes me wonder.
Now that the information is outside of Montana. I believe a better chance
is available to have the grain terminal moved a few miles up or down river.
The railroad has a lot of property every other mile or so. To lease to
United Grain. United Grain is building 7 of these grain loading stations in
Montana for the Asian market.
If you need any help let me know.
Walt
Original Rocky Mountain College 1836-1837
Clark Bottom Rendezvous
Yellowstone Canoe Camp
On the Lewis & Clark Trail
Park City, Montana
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llo Buck
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history,<span
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Pillar.<o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>
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have a
copy of the digital image that was show by Tim Urbaniak on Sept =
15<sup>th</sup>
during Archaeology Week events at the Peter Yegen Jr. Yellowstone County =
Museum
that shows the scale of the proposed grain loading terminal near Pompeys
Pillar.<span style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>This photo was =
carried by
the Billings OUTPOST on 9/27/00.<span style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes">
</span>If someone has a place to hang it.<span style=3D"mso-spacerun: =
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</span>I can see a copy over.<span style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> =
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have one in color and the black and white which was printed by the =
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is
going to take more than contacting Montana environmental officials.<span
style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>The heads of United Grain are =
in the
best position to save one of the crown jewels from this visual pollution =
and evident
lack of historical consideration.<span style=3D"mso-spacerun: =
yes">
</span>They made the decision in Portland to go ahead and ruin the =
view.<span
style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>You two ought to see this =
picture and
what they are going to do.<span style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> =
</span>Makes me
wonder.<o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>
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the information is outside of Montana.<span style=3D"mso-spacerun: =
yes">
</span>I believe a better chance is available to have the grain terminal =
moved
a few miles up or down river.<span style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> =
</span>The
railroad has a lot of property every other mile or so.<span
style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>To lease to United Grain.<span
style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>United Grain is building 7 of =
these
grain loading stations in Montana for the Asian =
market.<o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>
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Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2000 11:42:37 -0700
From: "Walt Foster" <Wfoster@cw2.com>
Subject: RE: MtMan-List: Lewis & Clark Memento Threatened.
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Hello Buck and Concho and others concerned with this important chunk of
history, PompÆs Pillar.
I have a copy of the digital image that was show by Tim Urbaniak on Sept
15th during Archaeology Week events at the Peter Yegen Jr. Yellowstone
County Museum that shows the scale of the proposed grain loading terminal
near Pompeys Pillar. This photo was carried by the Billings OUTPOST on
9/27/00. If someone has a place to hang it. I can see a copy over. I have
one in color and the black and white which was printed by the OUTPOST.
It is going to take more than contacting Montana environmental officials.
The heads of United Grain are in the best position to save one of the crown
jewels from this visual pollution and evident lack of historical
consideration. They made the decision in Portland to go ahead and ruin the
view. You two ought to see this picture and what they are going to do.
Makes me wonder.
Now that the information is outside of Montana. I believe a better chance
is available to have the grain terminal moved a few miles up or down river.
The railroad has a lot of property every other mile or so. To lease to
United Grain. United Grain is building 7 of these grain loading stations in
Montana for the Asian market.
If you need any help let me know.
Walt
Original Rocky Mountain College 1836-1837
Clark Bottom Rendezvous
Yellowstone Canoe Camp
On the Lewis & Clark Trail
Park City, Montana
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[mailto:owner-hist_text@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of John L. Allen
Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2000 6:40 PM
To: hist_text@lists.xmission.com
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Lewis & Clark Memento Threatened.
Several of us "Lewis and Clark" types--Jim Ronda, Steve Ambrose, Dayton
Duncan, Gary Moulton, and myself--have called, e-mailed, written hard copy
letters to both United Harvest and the Montana Department of Environment.
We've also, as indicated by the article from the Denver paper, talked to
newspaper reporters. So far the only response I've received was from the
president of the company who said, in effect, "we don't think this will harm
the site and we're determined to go ahead with it because we've made
promises to our customers." Too bad that a wonderful historical site will be
marred by such a development when there are so many other places along the
mainline of the railroad that would work just as well. Montana's a big
state! If any of you have connections with either United Harvest or state
government in Montana: WRITE or CALL to register your protest.
John Allen
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From: Daniel L. Smith <mailto:dlsmith@about.com>
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Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2000 10:50 AM
Subject: MtMan-List: Lewis & Clark Memento Threatened.
Just received this from Buck, possible threat to
a neat site, read on.
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Denver News Wednesday,Nov.8,2000
Lewis & Clark Memento Threatened.
by Jim Robbins
________________________________
The New York Times.
POMPEY'S PILLAR, Mont. - On the side of a
sandstone bluff here, the
explorer William Clark carved his first initial
and last name and July 25,1806,
the only place along the journey of several
thousand miles where physical
evidence of the Lewis & Clark expedition remains.
Now as the West prepares for an influx of
tourists who will trace the travels
of Lewis & Clark during the bicentennial, a
grain-exporting company is building
a high-speed grain-loading plant in the shadow of
the National Historic Landmark.
The construction has raised the ire of
historians, nationally and locally, who
say the looming presence of four 150-foot
concrete cylinders will ruin the
ambiance of the isolated site.
"It would be a shame if those silos go
through," said Dayton Duncan, writer of
Out West, a 1987 book on the Lewis & Clark and,
with Ken Burns, writer and
co-producer of the PBS documentary on the two
men. The pillar, Duncan said,
contains more than the marks left by Clark.
"Not only did Clark sign it, but some of
Custer's men had a skirmish with
Sitting Bull, and their names are there, and
there are Indian names."
The plant is one of seven high-speed
grain-loading plants being built in Montana
by United Harvest of Portland, Ore. Construction
began in August, but it was
stopped in September after it was discovered that
the company has never received
an air quality permit from the state. The
Pompey's Pillar Historical Association,
a Montana non-profit group, appealed the permit
in October, and state officials
say construction will not resume until hearings
have been held.
The pillar is on the banks of the Yellowstone
River, on 473 acres owned by the
Bureau of Land Management, about 30 miles east of
Billings, Montana's largest city,
and is surrounded by farmland and pastures.
Opponents of the grain elevator say
the landscape has changed little since the 19th
century. "It doesn't take much
imagination with those vistas to imagine yourself
as William Clark or Custer"
Duncan said.
"We spent a lot of time evaluating sites and
after several months this is the
only one that presented itself," said Chris
Davis, business development manager
for United Harvest. "We don't feel a facility
like this would be out of place."
Davis pointed out that the elevators would be
just 100 yards from Interstate 90.
Dan Krum of Worden, Mont., chairman of the
Pompey's Pillar Historical Association,
said the fight has sparked interest from Lewis &
Clark aficionados around the
country and some have sent donations as large as
$500.00, anticipating a long battle.
"They say they want to be good neighbors," Krum
said of United Harvest. "But
what they've done so far doesn't point to that."
____________________________________________________________
Later,
Daniel L. "Concho" Smith
Research & Documentation for:
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color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>He=
llo Buck
and Concho and others concerned with this important chunk of =
history,<span
style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes">=A0 </span>Pomp=92s =
Pillar.<o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><span class=3DEmailStyle21><font size=3D2 =
color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>&n=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><span class=3DEmailStyle21><font size=3D2 =
color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>I =
have a
copy of the digital image that was show by Tim Urbaniak on Sept =
15<sup>th</sup>
during Archaeology Week events at the Peter Yegen Jr. Yellowstone County =
Museum
that shows the scale of the proposed grain loading terminal near Pompeys
Pillar.<span style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes">=A0 </span>This photo was =
carried by the
Billings OUTPOST on 9/27/00.<span style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes">=A0 =
</span>If someone
has a place to hang it.<span style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes">=A0 </span>I =
can see a
copy over.<span style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes">=A0 </span>I have one in =
color and the
black and white which was printed by the =
OUTPOST.<o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><span class=3DEmailStyle21><font size=3D2 =
color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>&n=
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color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>It=
is
going to take more than contacting Montana environmental officials.<span
style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes">=A0 </span>The heads of United Grain are in =
the best
position to save one of the crown jewels from this visual pollution and =
evident
lack of historical consideration.<span style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes">=A0 =
</span>They
made the decision in Portland to go ahead and ruin the view.<span
style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes">=A0 </span>You two ought to see this picture =
and what
they are going to do.<span style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes">=A0 </span>Makes =
me wonder.<o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><span class=3DEmailStyle21><font size=3D2 =
color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>&n=
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color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>No=
w that
the information is outside of Montana.<span style=3D"mso-spacerun: =
yes">=A0
</span>I believe a better chance is available to have the grain terminal =
moved
a few miles up or down river.<span style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes">=A0 =
</span>The
railroad has a lot of property every other mile or so.<span
style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes">=A0 </span>To lease to United Grain.<span
style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes">=A0 </span>United Grain is building 7 of =
these grain
loading stations in Montana for the Asian =
market.<o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>
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style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>If=
you
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Lewis
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Montana </span></font><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy><span =
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color=3Dblack
face=3DTahoma><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:black'>-----Original
Message-----<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> =
owner-hist_text@lists.xmission.com
[mailto:owner-hist_text@lists.xmission.com]<b><span =
style=3D'font-weight:bold'>On
Behalf Of </span></b>John L. Allen<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, November =
08, 2000
6:40 PM<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> =
hist_text@lists.xmission.com<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: MtMan-List: =
Lewis
& Clark Memento Threatened.</span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'><![if =
!supportEmptyParas]> <![endif]><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 =
color=3Dblack
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>Several of us
"Lewis and Clark" types--Jim Ronda, Steve Ambrose, Dayton =
Duncan,
Gary Moulton, and myself--have called, e-mailed, written hard copy =
letters to
both United Harvest and the Montana Department of Environment. We've =
also, as
indicated by the article from the Denver paper, talked to newspaper =
reporters.
So far the only response I've received was from the president of the =
company
who said, in effect, "we don't think this will harm the site and =
we're
determined to go ahead with it because we've made promises to our
customers." Too bad that a wonderful historical site will be marred =
by
such a development when there are so many other places along the =
mainline of
the railroad that would work just as well. Montana's a big state! If any =
of you
have connections with either United Harvest or state government in =
Montana:
WRITE or CALL to register your protest.</span></font><font =
color=3Dblack><span
style=3D'color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font><=
/p>
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color=3Dblack><span =
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face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>John Allen</span></font><font
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style=3D'color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font><=
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margin-left:39.75pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:solid black 1.5pt;
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color=3Dblack
face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>-----
Original Message ----- </span></font><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black;mso-color-alt:win=
dowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal =
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margin-left:39.75pt;background:#E4E4E4;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:so=
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padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'><b><font size=3D2 =
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face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black;
font-weight:bold'>
<div style=3D'font-color:black'>From:</span></font></b><font size=3D2 =
color=3Dblack
face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'> <a
href=3D"mailto:dlsmith@about.com" title=3D"dlsmith@about.com">Daniel L. =
Smith</a> </span></font></div>
<font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Arial;color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>=
<p class=3DMsoNormal =
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padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'><b><font size=3D2 =
color=3Dblack
face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black;
font-weight:bold'>To:</span></font></b><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'> <a
href=3D"mailto:hist_text@lists.xmission.com" =
title=3D"hist_text@lists.xmission.com">hist_text@lists.xmission.com</a>
</span></font><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span=
></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
margin-left:39.75pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:solid black 1.5pt;
padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'><b><font size=3D2 =
color=3Dblack
face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black;
font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></font></b><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'> Wednesday, =
November 08,
2000 10:50 AM</span></font><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black;mso-color-alt:win=
dowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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color=3Dblack
face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black;
font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></font></b><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack
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MtMan-List: Lewis & Clark Memento Threatened.</span></font><font =
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<tt>a neat site, read on.</tt><br>
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<tt>Denver News Wednesday,Nov.8,2000 </tt><br>
<br>
<tt>Lewis & Clark Memento Threatened. </tt><br>
<br>
<tt>by Jim Robbins </tt><br>
<tt>________________________________ </tt><br>
<tt>The New York Times. </tt><br>
<br>
<tt> POMPEY'S PILLAR, Mont. - On the side of a</tt><br>
<tt>sandstone bluff here, the </tt><br>
<tt>explorer William Clark carved his first initial</tt><br>
<tt>and last name and July 25,1806, </tt><br>
<tt>the only place along the journey of several</tt><br>
<tt>thousand miles where physical </tt><br>
<tt>evidence of the Lewis & Clark expedition remains. </tt><br>
<tt> Now as the West prepares for an influx of</tt><br>
<tt>tourists who will trace the travels </tt><br>
<tt>of Lewis & Clark during the bicentennial, a</tt><br>
<tt>grain-exporting company is building </tt><br>
<tt>a high-speed grain-loading plant in the shadow of</tt><br>
<tt>the National Historic Landmark. </tt><br>
<tt>The construction has raised the ire of</tt><br>
<tt>historians, nationally and locally, who </tt><br>
<tt>say the looming presence of four 150-foot</tt><br>
<tt>concrete cylinders will ruin the </tt><br>
<tt>ambiance of the isolated site. </tt><br>
<tt> "It would be a shame if those silos go</tt><br>
<tt>through," said Dayton Duncan, writer of </tt><br>
<tt>Out West, a 1987 book on the Lewis & Clark and,</tt><br>
<tt>with Ken Burns, writer and </tt><br>
<tt>co-producer of the PBS documentary on the two</tt><br>
<tt>men. The pillar, Duncan said, </tt><br>
<tt>contains more than the marks left by Clark. </tt><br>
<tt> "Not only did Clark sign it, but some of</tt><br>
<tt>Custer's men had a skirmish with </tt><br>
<tt>Sitting Bull, and their names are there, and</tt><br>
<tt>there are Indian names." </tt><br>
<tt> The plant is one of seven high-speed</tt><br>
<tt>grain-loading plants being built in Montana </tt><br>
<tt>by United Harvest of Portland, Ore. Construction</tt><br>
<tt>began in August, but it was </tt><br>
<tt>stopped in September after it was discovered that</tt><br>
<tt>the company has never received </tt><br>
<tt>an air quality permit from the state. The</tt><br>
<tt>Pompey's Pillar Historical Association, </tt><br>
<tt>a Montana non-profit group, appealed the permit</tt><br>
<tt>in October, and state officials </tt><br>
<tt>say construction will not resume until hearings</tt><br>
<tt>have been held. </tt><br>
<tt> The pillar is on the banks of the Yellowstone</tt><br>
<tt>River, on 473 acres owned by the </tt><br>
<tt>Bureau of Land Management, about 30 miles east of</tt><br>
<tt>Billings, Montana's largest city, </tt><br>
<tt>and is surrounded by farmland and pastures.</tt><br>
<tt>Opponents of the grain elevator say </tt><br>
<tt>the landscape has changed little since the 19th</tt><br>
<tt>century. "It doesn't take much </tt><br>
<tt>imagination with those vistas to imagine yourself</tt><br>
<tt>as William Clark or Custer" </tt><br>
<tt>Duncan said. </tt><br>
<tt> "We spent a lot of time evaluating sites and</tt><br>
<tt>after several months this is the </tt><br>
<tt>only one that presented itself," said Chris</tt><br>
<tt>Davis, business development manager </tt><br>
<tt>for United Harvest. "We don't feel a facility</tt><br>
<tt>like this would be out of place." </tt><br>
<tt>Davis pointed out that the elevators would be</tt><br>
<tt>just 100 yards from Interstate 90. </tt><br>
<tt> Dan Krum of Worden, Mont., chairman of the</tt><br>
<tt>Pompey's Pillar Historical Association, </tt><br>
<tt>said the fight has sparked interest from Lewis &</tt><br>
<tt>Clark aficionados around the </tt><br>
<tt>country and some have sent donations as large as</tt><br>
<tt>$500.00, anticipating a long battle. </tt><br>
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Krum</tt><br>
<tt>said of United Harvest. "But </tt><br>
<tt>what they've done so far doesn't point to that." </tt><br>
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