home
***
CD-ROM
|
disk
|
FTP
|
other
***
search
/
ftp.xmission.com
/
2014.06.ftp.xmission.com.tar
/
ftp.xmission.com
/
pub
/
lists
/
hist_text
/
archive
/
v01.n666
< prev
next >
Wrap
Internet Message Format
|
2000-11-04
|
7KB
From: owner-hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com (hist_text-digest)
To: hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com
Subject: hist_text-digest V1 #666
Reply-To: hist_text
Sender: owner-hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com
Errors-To: owner-hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com
Precedence: bulk
hist_text-digest Sunday, November 5 2000 Volume 01 : Number 666
In this issue:
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Wilson Price Diary
-áááááá MtMan-List: Crow Indians and Mountain Men
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Crow Indians and Mountain Men
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Crow Indians and Mountain Men
-áááááá MtMan-List: Tipis, Thanks Hardtack
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Tipis, Thanks Hardtack
-áááááá MtMan-List: crow indians.ref.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2000 01:33:10 EST
From: Casapy123@aol.com
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Wilson Price Diary
The location of the Hunt diary is unknown. John J. Astor sent it to Paris
around 1820. There it was translated into French and published. What
happened after that, no one knows for sure. It could still be buried in
some archive in Paris or it could have been returned to Astor, or lost en
route to him. It is thought to have been used as a reference by Washington
Irving in writing "Astoria," though some say Irving used the Frecnh edition.
This info comes from pages IX and X of "The Overland Diary of Wilson Price
Hunt," translated from the French & edited by Hoyt C. Franchere, Oregon Book
Society, Ashland, 1973.
Jim Hardee, Amm #1676
- ----------------------
hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html
------------------------------
Date: Fri, 03 Nov 2000 10:23:59 -0500
From: knuckles <knuckles@gwu.edu>
Subject: MtMan-List: Crow Indians and Mountain Men
Can anyone out there point out
any specific cultural borrowings,
(tools, customs, clothing, shelter, food, hunting methods, moral codes, etc.)
made by trappers from the 3 basic Crow tribes?
or any good reference books which specifically relate to the Crow?
Thanks,
Steve Lorenz
knuckles@gwu.edu
- ----------------------
hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html
------------------------------
Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2000 15:14:03 EST
From: GazeingCyot@cs.com
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Crow Indians and Mountain Men
Steve Jim Beckwourth for one would fit your question. He did live with the
Crows for a while. Married it to the tribe and By his account became a war
chief. At about that same time there was another trapper living with the
crows but for the life of me I can't remember his name right now. As far as
books this is just a few I garbed out of the book case if I look around some
more I know I have more that I have read. Jim Beckwourth By Elinor Wilson.
Memoirs of a White Crow Indian as Told by Thomas B. Marquis. This book is a
bout Thomas H. Leforge how came to live with the Crow after the Civil War but
is still a good read and quit informative on the Crow culture. Some more good
books on the Crow People. Blankets and Moccasins Plenty Coups and His People,
the Crows By Glendolin Damon Wagner and Dr. William A. Allen. Pretty Shield
Medicine woman of the Crows By Frank B. Linderman, Five Indian Tribes of The
Upper Missouri By Edwin Thompson Denig,
Indians of North America The Crow By Frederick E. Hoxie.
Probably the best book on the Crow people I have is The Crow Indians By
Robert H. Lowie.
See ya on the trail
Crazy Cyot
- ----------------------
hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html
------------------------------
Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2000 14:40:23 -0700
From: Todd Glover <tetontodd@juno.com>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Crow Indians and Mountain Men
Crazy,
I believe that Edward Rose may be the other trapper you are thinking of.
He also lived with the Absaroka before Beckworths time.
"Teton" Todd D. Glover
Poison River Party, #1784
- ----------------------
hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html
------------------------------
Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2000 22:54:36 -0500 (EST)
From: JONDMARINETTI@webtv.net (Jon Marinetti)
Subject: MtMan-List: Tipis, Thanks Hardtack
Richard J.,
i too found your post very interesting (what specifically are tipi
rings?). With your very low AMM# were you closely associated with the
"founding members" of this superb brotherhood? Thankee kindly.
Hardtack,
thank you for the further clarification & elaboration. Both local
papers [Detroit] did not mention at all about "running from the law"
[thereby putting an unauthorized and deceptive spin on the story]. puts
it in a whole new light - the truth!
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
from Michigan
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
- ----------------------
hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html
------------------------------
Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2000 10:58:54 -0700
From: Randal J Bublitz <randybublitz@juno.com>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Tipis, Thanks Hardtack
JM, Did they mention that the fugitive 'survivalist' attempted suicide
(hooked a hose from his car exhaust to his tent, how it was found when he
was 'discovered missing')? The man had problems, and wasn't lost as the
papers infered. He did have army ranger training, so was a survivalist
to some degree. See you in the funny papers <g>. hardtack
- ----------------------
hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html
------------------------------
Date: Sun, 05 Nov 2000 15:35:30 MST
From: "Terrance Luff" <havenotmetis@hotmail.com>
Subject: MtMan-List: crow indians.ref.
ho camp!
the list of books on the crow indians given by the gentleman prior to this
post was a good list. would like to reaffirm the listing of robert h. lowie
The Crow Indian. also i would like to recommend Plenty-coups Chief Of The
Crows by frank b. linderman. /the book gives alot of windows in to the
plains life style of the high plains. HOPE this little tid bit helps.
cavalier ejla
_________________________________________________________________________
Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.
Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at
http://profiles.msn.com.
- ----------------------
hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html
------------------------------
End of hist_text-digest V1 #666
*******************************
-
To unsubscribe to hist_text-digest, send an email to
"majordomo@xmission.com"
with "unsubscribe hist_text-digest" in the body of the message.