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hist_text-digest Tuesday, October 31 2000 Volume 01 : Number 664
In this issue:
-áááááá RE: MtMan-List:#1676
-áááááá RE: MtMan-List: buffalo tongue
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Bossloper Experiences
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Bossloper Experiences
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Capotes
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Capotes
-áááááá MtMan-List: Thanks for all the advice on braintanning
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Capotes
-áááááá MtMan-List: Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2000 22:32:20 -0600
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Capotes
-áááááá MtMan-List: art!
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Influences of Alfred Jacob Miller
-áááááá MtMan-List: Wilson Price
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Wilson Price
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Wilson Price
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Wilson Price
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Wilson Price
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List:Dean Rudy
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Wilson Price
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Wilson Price
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Wilson Price
-áááááá MtMan-List: Large Tipis
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Large Tipis
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Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2000 12:23:01 -0700
From: "Walt Foster" <Wfoster@cw2.com>
Subject: RE: MtMan-List:#1676
Walt, what I wrote is not a "story," but a quote directly from Ann Hafen, a
far better historian than I. The best part of it is that I didn''t have to
rely on remembering anything. I looked it up and quoted chapter and verse,
straight from the book to the list. That is how I understand the concept of
documentation. Unfortunately, too many folks on this list "remember" things
that just ain't so once the book gets opened. If we could all add a
reference to our comments instead of just spouting opinions, comments from
failed memories, this list would be a lot more attractive to those with a
genuine interest in documented history. Second, you haven't defined "Metis"
sufficiently for me to agree that Jean Baptiste could be classified as such.
Finally, I totally agree with Allen. Jim Hardee, AMM #1676
Hi Jim, sure it is and that comes from the most famous mountain man of all
Jim Bridger himself. While growing up here with his legends one particular
point keeps coming to mind and that is what it is about it is all a story.
History is a story. Writing about history is a story. One of the reference
resources I use is Volume 1 of The American Fur Trade of the Far West. The
author is Hiram Martin Chittenden. Book number ISBN 0-8032-6320-1. I think
I can better describe what a Metis in our mountain country is better than I
can define a Metis. I have pointed to the drawings of Alfred Miller as
showing a wide mix of Metis culture in his 1837 drawings. Jean Baptiste is
the result of a mixed marriage in the fur trade industry on the upper
Missouri which can only make him a Metis. The fact you pointed out about
him having 14 years as a trapper working the small streams does indicate a
significant event. Your support of Allen's argument that the Metis did not
play a significant part in the Rocky Mountain Fur Trade is debatable on the
Upper Missouri which includes the Yellowstone River and the tributary the
Big Horn River which turns into the Wind River curving around the south edge
of the park. I hoped this Metis stuff could float into the foreground
without the brain pressure of the use of the historical method. I have a
degree from Montana State University-Billings 1971 and have been permitted
by the State of Montana to teach Montana History. I do not consider myself
a historian but rather a history buff. I have a strong interest in the
hunters, traders, and trappers who worked the rivers and streams of Montana
as well as other places. I will use Chittenden in the future.
Walt
Park City, Montana
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Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2000 12:33:03 -0700
From: "Walt Foster" <Wfoster@cw2.com>
Subject: RE: MtMan-List: buffalo tongue
Ho there camp,
i have priest journal that ref. (4 carts of 2 merchances buying buffalo
tongue and dipping them in molasses in reding for shipping back to the
settlements) Does anyone have any thing on this. how was it cooked and how
big was the buffalo tongue market. also when was baking powder first used in
northern ter.
going deeper into history
ponyrider
Hallo your camp,
Ponyrider: In Volume 2 of The American Fur Trade of the Far West by Hiram
Martin Chittenden ISBN 0-8032-6321-X on page 807 "The quantity of tongues
annually sent down to St. Louis was immense and in the single year of 1848
reached the number of 25,000."
Walt
Original Rocky Mountain College 1836-1837
Clark Bottom Rendezvous
Yellowstone Canoe Camp
On the Lewis & Clark Trail
Park City, Montana
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Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2000 15:50:17 -0800
From: "Roger Lahti" <rtlahti@email.msn.com>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Bossloper Experiences
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"Jerk" is vernacular for "jerky". Since it was in the same sentence and =
connected with "parched corn" as it was I though all would understand. =
With the addition of a <G> for "Grin" in place one is also to take the =
passage as presented in all good natured fun rather than as a "cut" at =
anyone for their timidity or lack of drive in "just doing it". My =
partners know I do not consider them "jerks" nor they I, lest we would =
not keep each others company. Now that that is straightened =
out.............<VBG> I remain.....
YMOS
Capt. Lahti'
----- Original Message -----=20
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To: hist_text@lists.xmission.com=20
Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2000 8:50 PM
Subject: MtMan-List: Bossloper Experiences
Earlier this week Capt Lahti wrote:
What traveling expenses? Driving out of town and walking off into the =
woods for a few days with some jerk and parched corn? Or without? And =
just living off the land? Sounds like a smoke screen to me. <G> Since no =
one else commented on the good Capt=92s words am I the only who thought =
that he was referring to his fellow sashayer or peregrinators as "some =
jerk" when they read his post for the first time?=20
Humbly
WY
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2>"Jerk" is vernacular for "jerky". Since it was in =
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remain.....</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Capt. Lahti'</FONT></DIV>
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<P>Earlier this week Capt Lahti wrote:</P>
<P>What traveling expenses? Driving out of town and walking off into =
the woods=20
for a few days with some jerk and parched corn? Or without? And just =
living=20
off the land? Sounds like a smoke screen to me. <G> Since no one =
else=20
commented on the good Capt=92s words am I the only who thought that he =
was=20
referring to his fellow sashayer or peregrinators as "some jerk" when =
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Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2000 16:03:47 -0800
From: "Roger Lahti" <rtlahti@email.msn.com>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Bossloper Experiences
Not that I haven't stuck my foot in my mouth and said what I meant where
others should not have heard it, <G> Thanks Rick for suspecting the truth of
the matter. I actually left off the "Y" on purpose and had a fleeting
thought that it would read wrong but left it anyway. It is important to
throw in a Grin or LOL once in a while to let folks know your state of mind.
Thanks for the backup Rick. I remain......
YMOS
Capt. Lahti
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To: <hist_text@lists.xmission.com>
Sent: Friday, October 27, 2000 10:07 AM
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Bossloper Experiences
>
>
> I think the good captain left off the letter y from his post. I believe
he
> meant to say "...some jerky and parched corn...".
>
> On the Heely--
> Rick
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Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2000 16:07:37 -0800
From: "Roger Lahti" <rtlahti@email.msn.com>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Capotes
Great in size perhaps but then we have Brothers who trod a heavier track
than me and not just in mass either <G>. I'll wait for others to advise you
on how to survive a NW winter "jaunt" with some "Jerk" and some "parched
corn" and then I'll let you in on my secrets. <G>
Capt. Lahti'
PS. Took first place this weekend up Elk Creek in a friendly little trail
walk. Gun shoots straight so it must be me that missed that elk. <G>
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Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2000 21:15:01 EST
From: SWcushing@aol.com
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Capotes
In a message dated 10/29/00 4:00:01 PM, rtlahti@email.msn.com writes:
<<
PS. Took first place this weekend up Elk Creek in a friendly little trail
walk. Gun shoots straight so it must be me that missed that elk. <G>
>>
WoooHoooo! I figured you just had a minor seizure on that elk...good to see
you're back up to speed! <G>
<< I'll wait for others to advise you
on how to survive a NW winter "jaunt" >>
Not too many replies on the capote, but they are in line with what you have
suggested in the past, I believe. I think I'll get a Nor'wester from
NWTraders.... the style is on the lines of a great coat, and does have a
hood, which I like. ....and no fringe.
Ymos,
Magpie
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Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2000 21:55:56 EST
From: HikingOnThru@cs.com
Subject: MtMan-List: Thanks for all the advice on braintanning
Ho Camp,
I want to thank everyone out there who offered advice and personal
experiences with braintanning. As usual, I have learned that books and
websites only get you started and Lady Experience takes over from there.
Several of you offered advice that helped me to avoid some mistakes that may
have ruined the process (I don;t know for sure as this is my first attempt)!
At any rate, I really appreciate the feedback and great advice! I will let
you guys know how it turns out!
With much appreciation,
- -C. Kent
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Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2000 09:12:56 -0700
From: Randal J Bublitz <randybublitz@juno.com>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Capotes
Magpie, I made my capote from a horse blanket, Whitney. I used the
Canoe Capote pattern option. It has a collar/cape over a cape, no hood.
It hangs just low enough to cover my but. No fringe, or frills. Double +
coverage on my neck and shoulders. I just belt it closed at this point,
but am considering some buttons up the front. There is enough coat to
keep one warm with this design, but not alot left over to hang in the
fire, etc.... My 2 cents. hardtack
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Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2000 21:31:04 -0700
From: "Ratcliff" <rat@htcomp.net>
Subject: MtMan-List: Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2000 22:32:20 -0600
Ho the list
Without my knowledge virtually my entire Favorites list of web pages and =
links was deleted. It would be a big favor to me if anyone so inclined =
would post me OFF LIST at rat@htcomp.net with a short list of their =
favorite sites. This would help me tremendously in rebuilding my list.
YMOS
Lanney Ratcliff
ps: don't ask
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Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2000 18:04:50 -0700
From: Angela Gottfred <agottfre@telusplanet.net>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Capotes
"Larry Huber" <shootsprairie@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>The simpler the better from a historical point of view. No cloth or leather
fringe. No tassels or streamers from the hood. Originals made by the
voyagers were tailored in the sleeves. Most had buttons of some sort.<<
I agree with Larry completely, except for the buttons. Early capotes (say
before 1821) seem to have usually been buttonless; instead, they were
closed by a sash (NOT a belt made from blanketing), and a button or gunworm
at the neck.
Your humble & obedient servant,
Angela Gottfred
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Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 14:59:37 -0700
From: Mike Moore <amm1616@earthlink.net>
Subject: MtMan-List: art!
Angela,
This last week I went to see the new promotion at the Denver Art
Museum (DAM). The new exhibit, "Painters and the American West"
was great. Seen some Tait, Miller and others whic I hadn't seen before.
The one which struck me as unusual was a Miller (big- probably 6' by 8')
called "Indians Provoking an Attack". The picture makes your eyes center
on two people in the center of it. "Antione" and I forget if it is
either Miller
himself or Stewart. The curator says on the wall notes and elsewhere
brings out
how Miller was inflenced by earlier and more romantic art forms. And
points this
out with this picture and others. Have you seen the picture? What is
your opinion
on this?
mike.
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Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 20:50:52 EST
From: Wind1838@aol.com
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Influences of Alfred Jacob Miller
Miller was influenced by European Romanticism. He had studied in Europe,
specifically Pais and Rome prior to the time Captain Stewart found him in New
Orleans. He was known as the American Raphael. He was highly influenced by
painters such as Delacroix. Is this enough information for you, or need I go
on?
Laura Jean
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Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 23:36:01 EST
From: SWcushing@aol.com
Subject: MtMan-List: Wilson Price
Hallo the List,
Does anyone know of a good book or two on Wilson Price Hunt? I know he was
Astor's field marshal in the founding of Astoria, and leader of the overland
Astorians in 1811. My interest is in that journey.
Also, how come the AMM, NW Brigade, Wilson Price Party isn't called the
"Wilson Price Hunt" Party? <G>
Ymos,
Magpie
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Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 21:57:54 -0700
From: Dean Rudy <drudy@xmission.com>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Wilson Price
You can read Hunt's own account of this journey:
http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/html/wphunt.html
At 11:36 PM 10/30/2000 -0500, you wrote:
>Hallo the List,
>
>Does anyone know of a good book or two on Wilson Price Hunt? I know he was
>Astor's field marshal in the founding of Astoria, and leader of the overland
>Astorians in 1811. My interest is in that journey.
>
>Also, how come the AMM, NW Brigade, Wilson Price Party isn't called the
>"Wilson Price Hunt" Party? <G>
>
>Ymos,
>Magpie
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Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 21:04:03 -0800
From: "Roger Lahti" <rtlahti@email.msn.com>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Wilson Price
Astoria, by Washington Irving. Available through Barnes and Noble and other
fine book stores.
It is the Wilson Price Hunt Party. Put both your hearing aids in and pay
attention. <G>
Capt. Lahti'
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Sent: Monday, October 30, 2000 8:36 PM
Subject: MtMan-List: Wilson Price
> Hallo the List,
>
> Does anyone know of a good book or two on Wilson Price Hunt? I know he was
> Astor's field marshal in the founding of Astoria, and leader of the
overland
> Astorians in 1811. My interest is in that journey.
>
> Also, how come the AMM, NW Brigade, Wilson Price Party isn't called the
> "Wilson Price Hunt" Party? <G>
>
> Ymos,
> Magpie
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Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 21:19:19 -0800
From: Lee Newbill <bluethistle@potlatch.com>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Wilson Price
Roger Lahti wrote:
> It is the Wilson Price Hunt Party. Put both your hearing aids in and pay
> attention. <G>
Well.... at least I know which pilgrim will be digging the next set of latrines
for the Wilson Price Hunt party <G>
Snicker.
Regards from Idaho
Lee Newbill
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Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 22:09:47 -0800
From: "Roger Lahti" <rtlahti@email.msn.com>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Wilson Price
> Well.... at least I know which pilgrim will be digging the next set of
latrines
> for the Wilson Price Hunt party <G>
Pilgrim? Hah! Over my dead body! Latrine digger or no!
You got a shovel you can loan him Lee? <G>
Capt. Lahti'
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Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 01:31:14 EST
From: Wind1838@aol.com
Subject: Re: MtMan-List:Dean Rudy
Mr. Rudy:
I never see much of you on this list, but, Sir, I want to thank you for your
vision in founding it. In founding "all of us." This list is a priceless
fountain of perspectives, history, bias, and inspiration. I hope to meet you
one day. Just missed you by a couple of days on Dry Cottonwood Creek in
Wyoming, in 1999. Wasn't that THE view? My God, why did any one venture
farther than the Grand Tetons?
Looking forward to the day,
Laura Rugel Glise
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Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 05:49:16 -0700
From: Mike Moore <amm1616@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Wilson Price
Magpie,
You can also find him listed in "Names of People in the Fur Trade"
at Dean's web site. I think 6 or seven books mention him. The references
range from a brief mention to in and out of complete books.
mike.
SWcushing@aol.com wrote:
> Hallo the List,
>
> Does anyone know of a good book or two on Wilson Price Hunt? I know he was
> Astor's field marshal in the founding of Astoria, and leader of the overland
> Astorians in 1811. My interest is in that journey.
>
> Also, how come the AMM, NW Brigade, Wilson Price Party isn't called the
> "Wilson Price Hunt" Party? <G>
>
> Ymos,
> Magpie
>
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Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 10:11:25 EST
From: SWcushing@aol.com
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Wilson Price
In a message dated 10/30/00 9:20:00 PM, bluethistle@potlatch.com writes:
<<
Well.... at least I know which pilgrim will be digging the next set of
latrines
for the Wilson Price Hunt party <G>
>>
LOL.... You know, I could use some help arounds these boys, Lee! The last
"challenge" I had was rootin through some briar patches (ouch) trying to push
some pheasant to Capt Lahti...<G> Who thinks up these challenges anyhow!!!??!
<VVBG>
Ymos,
Magpie
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Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 10:33:19 EST
From: SWcushing@aol.com
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Wilson Price
In a message dated 10/30/00 8:58:45 PM, drudy@xmission.com writes:
<< You can read Hunt's own account of this journey:
http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/html/wphunt.html
>>
Dean,
Outstanding! ..... I didn't know his diary even existed. Can you tell me if
it is copied word for word, or selected excerpts ....and also, where is the
"original" journal located? Thanks.... you've got a great archive there and
I'll use it more often.
Ymos,
Magpie
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Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 10:46:35 EST
From: SWcushing@aol.com
Subject: MtMan-List: Large Tipis
Hallo the List,
In Wilson Price Hunt's diary, he mentions the Cheyenne Indians having large
teepees made of buffalo hides and.... "they often hold as many as fifty
people". I was of the belief that most buffalo hide teepees were rather small
because of the weight.
Just how large of a teepee would be needed to hold 50 people? This may be a
good question for you Linda Holley.... I've seen 15 kids in my 20ft lodge,
and that looked rather full....
Ymos,
Magpie
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Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 16:56:49 -0800
From: Linda Holley <tipis@mediaone.net>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Large Tipis
I have had as many as 39 adults in an 18' tipi. Now we were not sleeping
together mind you, but it was a great closeness. Also, that could have been two
lodges put together as they sometimes did. There are old drawings of this and
photos.
I could see a large 20 or 22 out of hides. But it would be a "girl dog" to set
up.
SWcushing@aol.com wrote:
> Hallo the List,
>
> In Wilson Price Hunt's diary, he mentions the Cheyenne Indians having large
> teepees made of buffalo hides and.... "they often hold as many as fifty
> people". I was of the belief that most buffalo hide teepees were rather small
> because of the weight.
>
> Just how large of a teepee would be needed to hold 50 people? This may be a
> good question for you Linda Holley.... I've seen 15 kids in my 20ft lodge,
> and that looked rather full....
>
> Ymos,
> Magpie
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