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hist_text-digest      Friday, September 29 2000      Volume 01 : Number 637



In this issue:

-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Take a good look at this.
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: missouri river/ fur trade
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Take a good look at this.
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2000 21:15:27 -0500
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Was Sashes Now Knife Sheaths
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Was Sashes Now Knife Sheaths
-áááááá MtMan-List: Care of new pine canteen.
-áááááá RE: MtMan-List: Take a good look at this.
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2000 21:15:27 -0500
-áááááá Fw: MtMan-List: Was Sashes Now Knife Sheaths
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Was Sashes Now Knife Sheaths
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Care of new pine canteen.
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2000 21:15:27 -0500
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Take a good look at this.
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: missouri river/ fur trade
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: here too
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: OT - Muzzleloader Oil-Grease
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: cleaning with boiling H2O
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Care of new pine canteen.

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Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 16:14:16 -0500
From: "jdearing" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Take a good look at this.

>
> How the HECK does this belong on this list!  I, for one, don't care to see
> this garbage.  I'd much rather share a camp with a PAGAN who cares about
his
> environment than a CHRISTIAN who only worries about giving "lost" souls a
> chance to know the "lord".
>
>
Maybe those Christians know something about the environment in which we will
spend eternity.


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Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 17:22:07 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: missouri river/ fur trade

[e-mail] writes:

>  I am focusing on what the fur trade of the 9th century did to the river,
mainly due to overhunting by the natives and the trading companies who were
out to make a profit.  Any information anyone can provide me with to help me
would be greatly appreciated.>>

Chris,

I just returned from the Fur Trade Symposium at Fort Union in Williston, ND.
I think there are several folks there at Fort Union National Historic Site
that can give you everything you want. Here are a few websites that should
get you to some of the very knowledgeable folks at the fort <A
HREF="http://www.mwac.nps.gov/fous/index.htm">Fort Union Trading Post</A>
and <A HREF="http://www.geocities.com/fumla/links.html">links</A> :. Here is
Randy Kane's e-mail at the fort, he was the project person/host for the
Symposium:  [e-mail].

You might also try to contact the Museum of the Fur Trade:  <A
HREF="http://www.furtrade.org/">THE MUSEUM OF THE FUR TRADE</A> . Their
e-mail is: [e-mail].

This was one of the best historic symposiums/conferences I have attended. I
highly recommend it to everyone interested. It is held randomly every few
years when someone volunteers to host it. Fort Union hosted it this year.
Tentatively Fort Benton has volunteered to host it in 2003 and The Museum of
the Fur Trade (Chadron, NE) has volunteered to host it in 2006.

Good Luck. I remain....
YMOS
Ghosting Wolf


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Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 17:22:20 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Take a good look at this.

Hello the List,
I rarely post since I have far more to learn than teach to this list, but I
really get tired of this urban legend.  The petition occured in1975 and was
denied on 1st amendment grounds.  In almost every case, I have found these
"warnings" (be it virus alerts or warnings about political events) to be
distorted or downright false.  Do yourself a favor and bookmark one of the
Urban Legends sites and begin checking them out before you pass them on.
I would much rather read about what to lubricate patches for a muzzeloader
with.
Frank

CBS will be forced to discontinue "Touched by an Angel" for
> >using the word God in every program.
> >Madeline Murray O'Hare, an atheist, successfully managed
> >to eliminate the use of Bible reading from public schools a
> >few years ago. Now her organization has been granted a
> >Federal Hearing on the same subject by the Federal
> >Communications Commission (FCC) in Washington D.C. Their petition,
> >Number 2493, would ultimately pave the way to stop the reading
> >of the gospel of our Lord and Savior, on the airwaves of
> >America.  They got 287,000 signatures to back their stand!
   If this attempt is successful, all Sunday worship
> >services being  broadcast on the radio or by television will be
> >stopped. This group is also campaigning to remove all Christmas
   programs and Christmas carols from public schools!! You
> >as a Christian can help! We are praying for at least 1 million
> >signatures. This would defeat their effort and show that there
> >are many Christians alive, well and concerned about our country.
> >As Christians we must unite on this.
> >
> >Please don't take this lightly. We ignored this lady once and
> >lost prayer in our schools and in offices across the nation.
> >Please stand up for your religious freedom and let your voice be
> >heard. Together we can make a difference in our country while
> >creating an opportunity for the lost to know the Lord.
> >Please press "forward" and only delete out what is not needed,
> >and forward this to everyone on your list. Now, please sign
> >your name at the bottom. Don't delete anything, just go to the
> >next number and type your name.
> >Please do not sign jointly, such as Mr. & Mrs....Each person
> >should sign his/her own name.
> >
> >Please e-mail this to everyone you know, and help us defeat this
> >organization and keep the right of our freedom of religion.
> >When you get to 1000 please email back to Lisa Norman.
> >
> >

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Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 17:46:43 -0700
From: Linda Holley <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2000 21:15:27 -0500

Ok...I am here.  Just busy.  Work on the infamous tipi sight on mine.  Hoping
to get some of it on line this week..Right now it is over 10 megs big.  And
lots more to put on.

Linda

[e-mail] wrote:

> lynda---
> same old tap tap tap---how you doing any new projects going----I got a
> walk about stick about finished for the brother---bead weaving it and
> have about 4 " done so far need to get it done befor i go to hunt to
> suprise him---he has a hint i am making a walk about stick for him----
>
> BTW I still have your unborn buffilo skin here---should send it to you
> and then let the tradeing begin----nuff said----you'll love it---
>
> YMHOSANT
>    =+=
> "HAWK"
> Michael Pierce       "Home Of the " Old Grizz " Product line    TRADEMARK
> (C)
> 854 Glenfield Drive,    Palm Harbor,    Florida        34684
> E-Mail: [e-mail]     Phone:  [phone]
> Web Site: http://www.angelfire.com/fl2/mpierce
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Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 16:42:22 -0600
From: Mike Moore <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Was Sashes Now Knife Sheaths

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Wynn,
    I afraid.... I must agree with Walt. Knife sheathes have a balance
point in them. I always carry my knife in rawhide or half tanned
leather.
When building a sheath like this, put the knife in and find where the
point
where the knife leans over but doesn't fall out. Every knife is
different and
put a hole in the cover to mark it. Now, when you are done, put a
leather
wang through the hole and when putting the combination in side your
belt,
tie the wang around the belt. It always works for me. And impresses the
green horns in camp when you hold up a knife in a sheath by the strap
and
it balances (just a little up is allways best) and doesn't fall out!
                                                                mike.
p.s. I think even the !837 book by Rex shows a small strap like this on
a few belts.

Wynn & Gretchen Ormond wrote:

> Our friend PoorBoy wrote:
>
> One could further look at the fact that most knife sheaths were
> rawhide, not finished leather, and designed to be thrust into the
> belt, not hung from it.. . . .
>
> Having tried this with a rawhide knife sheath on one short horse ride
> and caught my knife falling about a half dozen times, it makes me
> wonder what great force those old timers had that I aint got. How they
> kept that or a felt hat fer any length of time without tieing it on is
> beyond me. Allen and Crazy can attest that I am experienced at picking
> my hat up off a the ground from a tall animal.
>
>
>
> WY

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Wynn,
<br>    I afraid.... I must agree with Walt. Knife sheathes
have a balance
<br>point in them. I always carry my knife in rawhide or half tanned leather.
<br>When building a sheath like this, put the knife in and find where the
point
<br>where the knife leans over but doesn't fall out. Every knife is different
and
<br>put a hole in the cover to mark it. Now, when you are done, put a leather
<br>wang through the hole and when putting the combination in side your
belt,
<br>tie the wang around the belt. It always works for me. And impresses
the
<br>green horns in camp when you hold up a knife in a sheath by the strap
and
<br>it balances (just a little up is allways best) and doesn't fall out!
<br>
mike.
<br>p.s. I think even the !837 book by Rex shows a small strap like this
on
<br>a few belts.
<p>Wynn & Gretchen Ormond wrote:
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Our friend PoorBoy wrote:
<p>One could further look at the fact that most knife sheaths were rawhide,
not finished leather, and designed to be thrust into the belt, not hung
from it.. . . .
<p>Having tried this with a rawhide knife sheath on one short horse ride
and caught my knife falling about a half dozen times, it makes me wonder
what great force those old timers had that I aint got. How they kept that
or a felt hat fer any length of time without tieing it on is beyond me.
Allen and Crazy can attest that I am experienced at picking my hat up off
a the ground from a tall animal.
<br>
<br>
<p>WY</blockquote>

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Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 15:38:12 -0700 (PDT)
From: S Jones <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Was Sashes Now Knife Sheaths

I believe the common practice is to wear the belt/sash
OVER the rawhide sheath, not hang the sheath off the
belt unless you have a very snug fit and don't mind
using two hands to free the knife. Either way, the
knife should cinch in the sheath. An alternative is a
thong tie around the handle.

- --- Mike Moore <[e-mail]> wrote:
> Wynn,
>     I afraid.... I must agree with Walt. Knife
> sheathes have a balance
> point in them. I always carry my knife in rawhide or
> half tanned
> leather.
> When building a sheath like this, put the knife in
> and find where the
> point
> where the knife leans over but doesn't fall out.
> Every knife is
> different and
> put a hole in the cover to mark it. Now, when you
> are done, put a
> leather
> wang through the hole and when putting the
> combination in side your
> belt,
> tie the wang around the belt. It always works for
> me. And impresses the
> green horns in camp when you hold up a knife in a
> sheath by the strap
> and
> it balances (just a little up is allways best) and
> doesn't fall out!
>
>            mike.
> p.s. I think even the !837 book by Rex shows a small
> strap like this on
> a few belts.
>
> Wynn & Gretchen Ormond wrote:
>
> > Our friend PoorBoy wrote:
> >
> > One could further look at the fact that most knife
> sheaths were
> > rawhide, not finished leather, and designed to be
> thrust into the
> > belt, not hung from it.. . . .
> >
> > Having tried this with a rawhide knife sheath on
> one short horse ride
> > and caught my knife falling about a half dozen
> times, it makes me
> > wonder what great force those old timers had that
> I aint got. How they
> > kept that or a felt hat fer any length of time
> without tieing it on is
> > beyond me. Allen and Crazy can attest that I am
> experienced at picking
> > my hat up off a the ground from a tall animal.
> >
> >
> >
> > WY
>


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Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 18:11:55 -0500
From: Matt Porter <[e-mail]>
Subject: MtMan-List: Care of new pine canteen.

Hallo round the fire!
    I have a question fer all you.  I received a new tin-banded pine canteen
from Jas. Townsend.  I am in the process of varnishing it right now as
the instruction sheet said.  It also said that the average length a
canteen lasted during the Rev. War was 3-6 months.  Is that how long my
canteen will last if I take good care of it?  That seems awful short to
me.  Here's the major question:  what can I do to make it last longer if
possible?  I don't know if it matters, but the inside is lined with
brewer's pitch.

YMHS
Matt Porter
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Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 17:23:18 -0600
From: "Walt Foster" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: MtMan-List: Take a good look at this.

Hang on jd:

They come and go.

Say you would have enjoyed the country I was hunting in last week end.
There was the story about the Bloods jumping a hunting camp of Crow with
only one getting away.   A mountain man size chunk of paradise.  A primitive
buffalo and antelope run.  With a nearby so called medicine wheel but which
could be called equally a sun dance frame.  Complete with a nearby village
site and up above where we camped.  Up on the rim screened by pine trees a
large camp composed of tipi rings.  Similar to the sight I saw when I was 16
on the South Pryor.

Walt
Orginal Rocky Mountain College 1836-1837
Yellowstone Canoe Camp
On the Lewis & Clark Trail
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Date: Sun, 1 Oct 2000 19:38:25 -0400
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2000 21:15:27 -0500

let us know when things settle down---got to get to work myself---
"HAWK"
Michael Pierce       "Home Of the " Old Grizz " Product line    TRADEMARK
(C)
854 Glenfield Drive,    Palm Harbor,    Florida        34684
E-Mail: [e-mail]     Phone:  [phone]
Web Site: http://www.angelfire.com/fl2/mpierce

On Fri, 29 Sep 2000 17:46:43 -0700 Linda Holley <[e-mail]>
writes:
>Ok...I am here.  Just busy.  Work on the infamous tipi sight on mine.
>Hoping
>to get some of it on line this week..Right now it is over 10 megs big.
> And
>lots more to put on.
>
>Linda
>
>[e-mail] wrote:
>
>> lynda---
>> same old tap tap tap---how you doing any new projects going----I got
>a
>> walk about stick about finished for the brother---bead weaving it
>and
>> have about 4 " done so far need to get it done befor i go to hunt to
>> suprise him---he has a hint i am making a walk about stick for
>him----
>>
>> BTW I still have your unborn buffilo skin here---should send it to
>you
>> and then let the tradeing begin----nuff said----you'll love it---
>>
>> YMHOSANT
>>    =+=
>> "HAWK"
>> Michael Pierce       "Home Of the " Old Grizz " Product line
>TRADEMARK
>> (C)
>> 854 Glenfield Drive,    Palm Harbor,    Florida        34684
>> E-Mail: [e-mail]     Phone:  [phone]
>> Web Site: http://www.angelfire.com/fl2/mpierce
>>
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Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 18:58:18 -0500
From: "Ratcliff" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Fw: MtMan-List: Was Sashes Now Knife Sheaths

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What's wrong with tieing it?  I have a large knive that I carry thrust =
under my belt and I keep it from falling pretty simply.  I attached a =
whang of leather near the top of the sheath, and  I tie it to my belt.  =
It seemed like a common sense thing to do and that big ol' Dennis Miles =
Texian fighting knife stays with me.
Lanney Ratcliff

Our friend PoorBoy wrote:

One could further look at the fact that most knife sheaths were rawhide, =
not finished leather, and designed to be thrust into the belt, not hung =
from it.. . . .

Having tried this with a rawhide knife sheath on one short horse ride =
and caught my knife falling about a half dozen times, it makes me wonder =
what great force those old timers had that I aint got. How they kept =
that or a felt hat fer any length of time without tieing it on is beyond =
me. Allen and Crazy can attest that I am experienced at picking my hat =
up off a the ground from a tall animal.



WY


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Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 17:12:27 -0700
From: "Larry Huber" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Was Sashes Now Knife Sheaths

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Indians were the best mountain riders out there.  They didn't wear hats =
and a breech clout thong seemed to keep their rawhide knife sheath in =
place.  Most white guys (as indicated by Miller) had the sheath tied to =
the belt with a thong.  I'll bet they used a chin strap to keep their =
hats on or else used their sash or scarf to tie it down over their ears.

Larry Huber
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  Our friend PoorBoy wrote:

  One could further look at the fact that most knife sheaths were =
rawhide, not finished leather, and designed to be thrust into the belt, =
not hung from it.. . . .

  Having tried this with a rawhide knife sheath on one short horse ride =
and caught my knife falling about a half dozen times, it makes me wonder =
what great force those old timers had that I aint got. How they kept =
that or a felt hat fer any length of time without tieing it on is beyond =
me. Allen and Crazy can attest that I am experienced at picking my hat =
up off a the ground from a tall animal.



  WY


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  <P>Our friend PoorBoy wrote:</P>
  <P>One could further look at the fact that most knife sheaths were =
rawhide,=20
  not finished leather, and designed to be thrust into the belt, not =
hung from=20
  it.. . . .</P>
  <P>Having tried this with a rawhide knife sheath on one short horse =
ride and=20
  caught my knife falling about a half dozen times, it makes me wonder =
what=20
  great force those old timers had that I aint got. How they kept that =
or a felt=20
  hat fer any length of time without tieing it on is beyond me. Allen =
and Crazy=20
  can attest that I am experienced at picking my hat up off a the ground =
from a=20
  tall animal.</P>
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Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 17:18:01 -0700
From: "Larry Huber" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Care of new pine canteen.

Like a barrel, once the staves dry out, it won't hold water worth a darn.
Some folks keep their canteens full of water and change it daily to keep the
water fresh and the staves tight.  Others store the canteen full of water
but add a bit of ammonia to the water to keep to from getting "skunky".
Obviously, you have to flush it well before refilling it and using it in the
field.  Others, like me, are just plain lazy and switched to copper.

Larry Huber

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Sent: Friday, September 29, 2000 4:11 PM
Subject: MtMan-List: Care of new pine canteen.


> Hallo round the fire!
> I have a question fer all you.  I received a new tin-banded pine canteen
> from Jas. Townsend.  I am in the process of varnishing it right now as
> the instruction sheet said.  It also said that the average length a
> canteen lasted during the Rev. War was 3-6 months.  Is that how long my
> canteen will last if I take good care of it?  That seems awful short to
> me.  Here's the major question:  what can I do to make it last longer if
> possible?  I don't know if it matters, but the inside is lined with
> brewer's pitch.
>
> YMHS
> Matt Porter
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Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2000 00:12:04 GMT
From: "wayne anderson" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2000 21:15:27 -0500

Hawk,

I've got the frizzen and frizzen spring installed and determined where I'm
going to drill the tumbler hole.

Question - measuring the tumbler with a vernier I find it is a few
thousandths out of round.  Any suggestions on how I can ture it up without a
lath?

Wayne


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Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 19:23:36 -0500
From: "jdearing" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Take a good look at this.

>
> Say you would have enjoyed the country I was hunting in last week end.
> There was the story about the Bloods jumping a hunting camp of Crow with
> only one getting away.   A mountain man size chunk of paradise.  A
primitive
> buffalo and antelope run.  With a nearby so called medicine wheel but
which
> could be called equally a sun dance frame.  Complete with a nearby village
> site and up above where we camped.  Up on the rim screened by pine trees a
> large camp composed of tipi rings.  Similar to the sight I saw when I was
16
> on the South Pryor.
>
> >
>
>
Yeah, that sounds like a good place to be. I'll be bowhunting behind the
house
Sunday. Wanna trade hunting grounds? ;-)
J.D.


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Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 18:47:23 -0600
From: "Ole B. Jensen" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: missouri river/ fur trade

Billy,
Sounds like you are looking for someone to confirm a preconcived notion and
validate pop cultured political correctness.
I think you had better go back to the books and find out what realy made the
fur trade and how the west was populated. Man is not the problem, the
misconcived doctrins of men are the real ecological problem.
YMOS
Ole # 718
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>To: [e-mail]
>Subject: MtMan-List: missouri river/ fur trade
>Date: Fri, Sep 29, 2000, 8:52 AM
>

>Hello, I am a junior Environmental Policy major at Bowling Green State
>University in Bowling Green, Ohio.  I am currently writing a paper for my
>Native American History class.  My topic is the Ecological Impacts of the
>Fur Trade on the Missouri River.  I am focusing on what the fur trade of the
>19th century did to the river, mainly due to overhunting by the natives and
>the trading companies who were out to make a profit.  Any information anyone
>can provide me with to help me would be greatly appreciated.  I am looking
>for web sites, government documents, books, magazines, and any other media
>which could be of help.  Thank you for your time,
>Chris Riddle
>Junior
>Environmental Policy and Analysis
>Bowling Green State University
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Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 20:26:25 -0500
From: "Ratcliff" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: here too

Frank Fusco wrote:=20
"Thanks, Hawk
    I have been on the amm list a long time but seldom place messages. =
The
reason is that I am not expert on the subject of authenticity for the =
RMFT."

Frank
Do you mean the AMM list or the Mountain Man List (History List)?  I =
don't believe you or Hawk are members of AMM but you should jump right =
in with your thoughts and opinions on the Mountain Man List.  You =
lurking old timers can very often offer up some very interesting =
perspectives on a variety of subjects.  Warm up that keyboard and let =
her fly.   You might be surprised at how much knowledge you have about =
RMFT authenticity.
YMOS
Lanney Ratcliff


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Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 19:07:21 -0700
From: "Roger Lahti" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: OT - Muzzleloader Oil-Grease

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Subject: Re: MtMan-List: OT - Muzzleloader Oil-Grease


> In a message dated 9/28/00 9:44:24 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
> [e-mail] writes:

> Cleaning- with boiling water and a patch on the ramrod <G>; Patch lube was
> with any
> type of lard/fat or with plain old spit if nothing else was handy.

Thanks for repeating what I said. <G>

Capt. Lahti'




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Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 22:12:06 -0400
From: "Frank V. Rago" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: cleaning with boiling H2O

This cleaning with boiling water.  I read in a few mags that you should not
use boiling water as it expands the metal and may loosen the barrel plug at
the base of the barrell.  Is there any merit to this or is it just hogwash?




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Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 19:33:03 -0700
From: "Roger Lahti" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Care of new pine canteen.

It also said that the average length a
> canteen lasted during the Rev. War was 3-6 months.


Matt,

Your canteen will last a lot longer unless you use it every day for 3-6
months in a war zone.

 That seems awful short to
> me.  Here's the major question:  what can I do to make it last longer if
> possible?  I don't know if it matters, but the inside is lined with
> brewer's pitch.

If the seller didn't give you any directions, then I would suggest you empty
it out when you are not using it. Keep it in a cool place after you have let
it air out a bit and do not leave it in the sun  empty! That should make it
last a long time. Capt. Lahti'




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