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From: owner-hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com (hist_text-digest)
To: hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com
Subject: hist_text-digest V1 #601
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hist_text-digest Wednesday, August 2 2000 Volume 01 : Number 601
In this issue:
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List:A moment of silence
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List:A moment of silence
-áááááá MtMan-List: Dugouts on the Clearwater (sorta long)
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List:A moment of silence
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List:A moment of silence
-áááááá MtMan-List: Bag Question
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Dugouts on the Clearwater (sorta long)
-áááááá MtMan-List: Lee Newbill
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Bag Question
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Bag Question
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Bag Question
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Bag Question
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Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2000 22:07:03 -0500
From: John Kramer <kramer@kramerize.com>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List:A moment of silence
May we have a moment of silence in memorium of August 1, 1794?
John...
Use it up, wear it out, make do, or do without.
john kramer@kramerize.com
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Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2000 23:58:22 EDT
From: GazeingCyot@cs.com
Subject: Re: MtMan-List:A moment of silence
As quite as the list has been tonight John looks like you won't have any
problem getting a moment of silence. Here's to you and them back then.
See ya on the trail
Crazy Cyot
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Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2000 22:54:38 -0700
From: Lee Newbill <bluethistle@potlatch.com>
Subject: MtMan-List: Dugouts on the Clearwater (sorta long)
Hallo
After observing a moment of silence for the Whiskey Rebellion, and hearin=
g
Mr. C. Coyote state that the list was a mite bit quiet tonight, I thought
I'd share an article I just finished for our club's newsletter. One
character in this is in the AMM (Vern), another is a strap-hanger (me), a=
nd
the rest of the characters are just good people dumb enough to get talked
into launching down the Clearwater in 2000 pound logs.
We begin...................
Two Days on the River
By Lee Newbill
Saturday, 29 July 2000
Started out the day by being picked up by Dave Benson, after waiting a fe=
w
moments for my coffeepot to perk our some fresh java, we left the Newbill
stump ranch and headed south to rendezvous with Vern Illi, Matt Ihm and J=
im
Baillargeon. Arrived at Vern=92s home place at a little past seven, wher=
e we
hooked up Dave=92s rig to the B boat (which had been soaking all night to
hopefully swell up the fissures). After waiting a bit more to see if any=
one
else would show, we again pointed our iron horses to the south and headed
for Orofino, and the launch site of Ahsahka. Other than the smell of fry=
ing
brakes on the Kendrick grade, the trip to Ahsahka was pretty uneventful.
Arrived Ahsahka at a little past nine, Vern arrived a wee bit after hauli=
ng
the A boat, which he had fetched from Phil and Glenna Johnston=92s homest=
ead
amongst the hills above Orofino. Linked up with the rest of the river ra=
ts
at the boat ramp, George Ball, James Campbell, and Jim =93Borrowed Eyes=94
McCray. The boats were set upon the water, the burlap-covered seats
installed, paddles and provisions put on board. After a short safety
briefing by water Deputies (Clearwater and Nez Perce), and the event
organizers (Canoe Camp Canoe Club), we launched the flotilla of carved wo=
od
and one Voyager Canoe down river towards Lewiston, some 40 miles and two
days down river (more or less). Accompanying the flotilla for safety, we=
re
the sheriff=92s boats, four jet skis and two larger boats.
The A boat crew from front to rear; Matt, George, James, Vern. B boat cr=
ew
from front to rear; Dave, Lee, Jim M., Jim B.
The event started well enough, with the flotilla moving steadily down the
river, running the swift water with little problems. Our first hint of
trouble came at lunch, when an over amorous canine attempted to French ki=
ss
the sleeping lips of Jim B, who, in repose, is apparently irresistible to
members of the opposite sex. Jim, suffice to say, was less than
enthusiastic about the attention. Fortunately, the dog was rescued befor=
e
it caught any thing, including the toe of Jim=92s poorly aimed moccasin. =
At
our lunch stop, we also heard the Nez Perce legend of Coyote, who apparen=
tly
lives in a cave at the bottom of the Big Eddy, a place of rapids and
treacherous whirlpools.
Back on the river, we encountered no problems until hitting the dreaded B=
ig
Eddy, site of numerous wettings and the destroyer of dignity. Was today =
the
day that B boat would make it through? Would Dave Benson lead his fearle=
ss
crew to victory or disaster? Well, hang in there reader, and we will fin=
d
out.
The A boat was first to shoot the Eddy, it sailed through with beauty and
dignity, shipping but little water and rocking the surrounding countrysid=
e
with the hurrahs of it=92s worthy crew=85 now, it was up to the B boat. =
We
entered the chute, and gave it our all, immediately finding the center of
the white water, which is where we should not have been, of course.
Non-the-less, being of brave disposition and limited intelligence, we
battled on, slicing through the rollers, and encouraging our sweet craft
onward with loving names, none of which are printable, unfortunately. We
did fine for most of the rough water, and only experienced a little
difficulty towards the end. Now here, dear reader, you may have heard th=
at
the B boat foundered and rolled, hurling it=92s stalwart crew to the cold
hearted mercy of the Clearwater=92s Big Eddy=85. Nothing, dear reader, co=
uld be
farther from the truth. Here is what really happened, I swear as I live =
and
breathe.
We had successfully negotiated the Big Eddy, with only one or two tiny
rollers left before us, when we, the crew of B boat, executed the highly
difficult =93Victory Roll=94. Now kids, don=92t try this at home. Only =
the most
advanced and courageous of dugout experts should attempt to execute this
dangerous maneuver. It is related to the =93submarine maneuver=94, previ=
ously
perfected by the crew of the A boat in =9297=85 Anyway, halfway through o=
ur
=93Victory Roll=94, a misguided sheriff=92s deputy, no doubt thinking we =
had
rolled on accident, leaped forward and grabbed the bow rope, immediately
kicking in his throttle, which of course put off our timing, and caused
immediate and certain catastrophe.
So now, we found ourselves in the water, where yours truly immediately fo=
und
out that his life preserver was having a most difficult time propelling h=
im
upwards with all his Buckskins and gear on. It=92s a very strange feelin=
g
floating along under the rollers and looking up at your boat. So, after
visiting with Coyote for a spell, I did finally kick my way up, surfacing
approximately at the number two position in the boat, looking around, I
immediately spied Dave calmly muttering to himself and picking hats,
paddles, and sundries out of the water around him. Looking back, I could
not see either of the Jim=92s. Then, after a minute or so, up popped Jim
McCray=85 =93Hallo Jim=94, I cheerfully called out=85 but Jim, he no answ=
er, just
spit water at me=85, so I thinks to myself, =93Self, Jim is being downrig=
ht
rude, but we should give him another chance=94, so I called out again, =93=
Hey
Jim!=94=85. Jim, he still spits water at me. Then I realized the river w=
as down
two or three inches, and judging from his popped eyes, heaving breast, an=
d
total lack of manners, Jim must be the culprit. So I reached out and dru=
g
him over to the boat, and made him put that water right back into the riv=
er
where it belonged. About that time Jim B. showed up where he had been
hiding behind the boat=85 picking up paddles and hats and sundries. I do=
n=92t
think either Jim B, or Dave ever got their head wet, but that=92s Ok, cau=
se
Jim McCray and I made up for it during our visit to Coyote=92s home at th=
e
bottom.
A quick tow to the bank by the deputy, five minutes of bailing, and we we=
re
on the way again. Total losses; one tin cup (mine, of course), and a wee
bit of dignity. One more testy spot where the B boat teetered on the edg=
e,
coaxed over by sweet words and super human paddling, and we slid into Jim
Cook=92s Fir Bluff Canoe Camp, on the north side of the Clearwater. We t=
ied
up and were soon enjoying a dinner of buffalo meat and corn on the cob
before stretching out for the night=85 most excellent reward.
One small mystery did develop in that the Clerk=92s hat found it=92s way =
some 16
feet up a tree, perfectly positioned hanging from a small broken branch.
After some effort and ingenuity, somewhat akin to the psychological
experiment where the chimp had to build a stair to get to the banana, the
Clerk did retrieve his battered and worn hat, cheered on by the seemingly
innocent bystanders, Jim M. and James. The mystery was finally solved wh=
en
Jim =93Tired Burlap Butt=94 McCray, and James =93I want to be a sea ancho=
r=94
Campbell, finally fessed up, but not before I had accused the venerable
president, Vernon, of tossing it up there. One of the problems with runn=
ing
with this crew is that there is never a dearth of suspects in a practical
joke.
Sunday, 30 July 2000
Awoke to a cloudless sky, that held the promise of a scorching hot day, a
promise that was all too soon fulfilled. George Ball had other commitmen=
ts,
and left us shortly after dawn. James Campbell, being 16 and full of lif=
e
and recklessness, requested a transfer to the wild lady, or B boat. Jim
McCray and myself, being on the wrong side of 40 and battered, both suffe=
red
ourselves to be transferred to the A boat for the remainder of the day. =
We
enjoyed a great breakfast courtesy of the Pine Bluff Crew, and were once
more on our way.
The day was hot, it would have seared the Devil himself, had he shown up.
It was later determined that the mercury hit 102 degrees in the valley.
Even with a breeze, it did little more than move hot air from one point t=
o
another.
Our last leg of the trip was highly uneventful, and was little more than =
a
enjoyable float down the river to Lewiston. No mishaps, no disasters, ju=
st
the sun beating down and the river moving it=92s way steadily to it=92s m=
eeting
with the River of the West. We stopped for lunch at Spaulding Park, site=
of
the old Spaulding Mission, where we voted on the awards of the day. The =
B
boat crew successfully fought off the nomination of the =93It Happens=94 =
award
by deflecting it upon one of the deputies, who in the process of the two
days, had gotten bucked off by his jet ski in the Big Eddy, and had run
aground once. It took some fast-talking, but the Clerk=92s gotten good a=
t
that over the last couple of years.
One more gentle leg on the river, and the trip was complete. Boats were
pulled and tied down, gear stowed, and the journey home began. Only
incident on the homeward journey was the boil-over of Vernon=92s Suburban=
on
the Kendrick grade, and a suicidal maniac who attempted to pass where no-=
one
should have ever tried. All=92s well that ends well. We said our good-b=
yes
at the Illi home place and once more set out on separate trails. We had
enjoyed a good two days of brotherhood, shared hardship and the joy of
living life to it=92s fullest.
Respectfully submitted
Lee Newbill
Clerk of the Hog Heaven Muzzleloaders
N. Idaho
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Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2000 01:53:50 -0700
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Subject: Re: MtMan-List:A moment of silence
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Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2000 07:55:12 -0700
From: Ron Valley <r_rvalley@juno.com>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List:A moment of silence
John Kramer <kramer@kramerize.com> writes: May we have a moment of
silence in memorium of August 1, 1794? - John...
I thought that you all might find this interesting...
Taken from "Chronicle of America" ISBN 0-13-133745-9 (p. 212)
WHISKEY REBELS GIVE IN
- Philadelphia, November 1794
After three months of disregard for the law, threats and
near-insurrection, the so-called "whiskey rebels" have laid down their
arms. In what had become the gravest test of its ability to enforce the
laws of the land, the federal government has apparently emerged
victorious. The uprising began in June when farmers in western
Pennsylvania and throughout the Appalachians refused to pay the federal
excise tax on whiskey. The farmers, whose cheapest way of marketing it
is in the form of whiskey, argued that the tax was unfair and excessively
high - about 25 percent of the going price for a quart of whiskey. In
addition, the farmers said that because of the shortage of hard currency,
whiskey often proved to be the only practical medium of exchange. The
government, in turn, contended that the tax was equitable and a
legitimate source of desperately needed revenue. After giving the
rebellious farmers two firm warnings that the government would not
tolerate their lawlessness, Commander-in-Chief Washington personally took
the field with a force of 12,500 militia men. When the farmers realized
their predicament, they dispersed, and the once formidable uprising
simply melted away.
UNITED STATES, May 1795.
Two of 200 "Whiskey Boys" arrested for the 1794 rebellion are convicted
of treason. (note: according to the "Chronicle", they were later
pardoned.)
Ron Valley
AMM #1353 - NH
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Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2000 09:53:09 -0400
From: "Dennis Miles" <deforge1@bright.net>
Subject: MtMan-List: Bag Question
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Got a question... I just did me up another bag recently, this time in a =
double version with a shot charger attached in between the bags in the =
fold.. I think I like it, but we will see during the upcoming Fall & =
Winter.
My question is: If you had to purchase (or make) your shooting bag all =
over again, would it be single or double and what gee gaws or "add-ons" =
would you like to attach??
D
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"Abair ach beagan is abair gu math e"
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Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2000 08:18:03 -0700
From: "Roger Lahti" <rtlahti@email.msn.com>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Dugouts on the Clearwater (sorta long)
Great story Lee. And thanks again for all your help with the AMM Western. I
surely do appreciate it. Pretty good helper for not even being a member. <G>
I remain....
YMOS
Capt. Lahti'
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From: "Lee Newbill" <bluethistle@potlatch.com>
To: <hist_text@lists.xmission.com>
Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2000 10:54 PM
Subject: MtMan-List: Dugouts on the Clearwater (sorta long)
Hallo
After observing a moment of silence for the Whiskey Rebellion, and hearing
Mr. C. Coyote state that the list was a mite bit quiet tonight, I thought
I'd share an article I just finished for our club's newsletter. One
character in this is in the AMM (Vern), another is a strap-hanger (me), and
the rest of the characters are just good people dumb enough to get talked
into launching down the Clearwater in 2000 pound logs.
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Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2000 11:53:37 -0400
From: "John Hunt" <jhunt1@one.net>
Subject: MtMan-List: Lee Newbill
Lee, thanks for sharing your canoe trip. Was very enjoyable, especially the
"dug out roll". Tiz a shame such a difficult maneuver was interrupted. Years
of perfecting such a dangerous move spoiled by the unknowledgeable.
Any chance you will share the coyote that lives under the falls?
AGAIN THANKS
John (BIG JOHN) Hunt
longhunter
mountainman
Southwest, Ohio
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Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2000 09:04:46 -0700
From: "Roger Lahti" <rtlahti@email.msn.com>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Bag Question
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My question is: If you had to purchase (or make) your shooting bag =
all over again, would it be single or double and what gee gaws or =
"add-ons" would you like to attach??
D.=20
My bag is a triple. It has a "dipped" U shape for the bag. There is an =
"envelope" pocket just inside the front edge, a wider (bag depth) main =
pocket in the middle, and an "envelope pocket" behind the main "central" =
pocket that has a higher front edge than the front and middle pokets.=20
I keep my flat tools in the rear most pocket. My ball bag, oil can, =
priming horn (when I carry one) and some tow are kept in the center =
pocket. The front pocket holds precut patches or wads (if I am shooting =
the smooth bore). There is a small pocket on the back of the bag that =
holds a tin of fishing gear.=20
I like this bag because it keeps all this stuff segregated well. I can =
find what I want without looking or digging too much. If I do like I say =
I am going to do and build another couple bags so that I have one for =
each gun, they will be close copies of this bag.
I have a separate bag for shot gun shooting (commercial brown canvas =
job that Cabelas sold) and I have a shot pouch with an Irish spout on it =
which I usually carry slung on the front strap of the shot gun bag. I =
like this bag for shot gunning. It has three small pouches out front =
for different types of wads and a large inner pocket for flask and such =
and a smaller inner bag for small items. It would be handier if it were =
similarly divided like the bag discribed above. Hope that helps. I =
remain....
YMOS
Capt. Lahti'
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<DIV> </DIV>
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can,=20
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pocket.=20
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smooth=20
bore). There is a small pocket on the back of the bag that holds =
a tin of=20
fishing gear. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
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I can=20
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say I am=20
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gun, they will be close copies of this bag.</DIV>
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canvas job=20
that Cabelas sold) and I have a shot pouch with an Irish spout on it =
which I=20
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like this=20
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different=20
types of wads and a large inner pocket for flask and such and a =
smaller inner=20
bag for small items. It would be handier if it were similarly divided =
like the=20
bag discribed above. Hope that helps. I remain....</DIV>
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<DIV>YMOS</DIV>
<DIV>Capt. Lahti'</DIV>
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Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2000 13:04:47 -0400
From: "Frank V. Rago" <ikon@mindspring.com>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Bag Question
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I have made more possibles bags for my person and have yet to make one =
that I felt comfortable with. The ones of skin are too frilly, the ones =
of leather are just never big enough, the ones of snapper shells are =
just too hard so I ended up with this little bag that my wife bought for =
me at a yard sale. It is perfect for hunting, small compact, holds just =
enough but not too much.
Well then I was at a flea market and found what I think is the best bag =
I have had yet. It is an upland game bag. Now before ya say it's not =
period correct you would want to see it. All leather, no zippers, snaps =
or plastic. Big front flap that will be decorated at a later time, it =
folds over three compartments. Two big and one canvas, and the canvas =
has unraveled and looks like fringe hanging. Inside there are shotgun =
shell elastic holders that work great at holding sinew, punch, knife, =
and such.
Think I found a keeper, well for now and it only cost me 5 bucks.
I combine my shooting pouch and possibles bag and this works great.
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From: Dennis Miles=20
To: hist_text@lists.xmission.com=20
Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2000 9:53 AM
Subject: MtMan-List: Bag Question
Got a question... I just did me up another bag recently, this time in =
a double version with a shot charger attached in between the bags in the =
fold.. I think I like it, but we will see during the upcoming Fall & =
Winter.
My question is: If you had to purchase (or make) your shooting bag =
all over again, would it be single or double and what gee gaws or =
"add-ons" would you like to attach??
D
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I have made more possibles bags for my =
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have yet to make one that I felt comfortable with. The ones of =
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too frilly, the ones of leather are just never big enough, the ones of =
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shells are just too hard so I ended up with this little bag that my wife =
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Well then I was at a flea market and =
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think is the best bag I have had yet. It is an upland game =
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before ya say it's not period correct you would want to see it. =
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leather, no zippers, snaps or plastic. Big front flap that will be =
decorated at a later time, it folds over three compartments. =
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I combine my shooting pouch and =
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Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2000 13:22:12 -0400
From: Bob Spencer <bspen@aye.net>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Bag Question
My question is: If you had to purchase (or make) your shooting bag all
over again, would it be single or double and what gee gaws or "add-ons"
would you like to attach??
Are you speaking of bags to be used in reenacting, or just for shooting,
Dennis? If for reenacting, what time period are you thinking of? It makes a
big difference.
Does anyone have any documentation for a double bag before the early 19th
century?
Bob
Bob Spencer <bspen@aye.net>
Louisville, KY
http://members.aye.net/~bspen/index.html
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Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2000 13:26:17 -0400
From: "Dennis Miles" <deforge1@bright.net>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Bag Question
Bob,
Doesn't really matter.. But I guess we can go from mid-18th to mid 19th C.
My curiosity is up & just wondering is most folks change bags as often as
I... I went rom leather to hemp, to bark tan, then homespun linen and now
the oil tanned double.
D
And to my "get back to work & quit playing on the computer " critics out
there.. I finish filed a bag axe thismorning and hafted it.. Called today a
total success and declared the rest of the day a s a local (REAL LOCAL)
Hloiday.<G>
D
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Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2000 13:36:18 EDT
From: ThisOldFox@aol.com
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Bag Question
> I finish filed a bag axe this morning and hafted it..
Dennis,
Not familiar with a bag axe. Are you gonna give it to her, or use it on her?
<G>
TOF
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Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2000 13:38:40 -0400
From: "Dennis Miles" <deforge1@bright.net>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Bag Question
TOF..Wrote:
" Not familiar with a bag axe. Are you gonna give it to her, or use it on
her? "
TOF
I will show this to the other half later.. Then you are on your own...<G>
D
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Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2000 14:49:09 -0700
From: hawknest4@juno.com
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Bag Question
spence---I had some jpgs of an original shooting bag ---a double
beavertail with a name and date on the inside flap of the bag believe
the date was 1830 something---let me dig thru some of my disks and see if
i can find the jpg's and i'll send you a print or two of it---its not in
real good condition---
"HAWK"
Michael Pierce "Home of ".Old Grizz" Product line " trademark (C)
854 Glenfield Dr.
Palm Harbor florida 34684 Phone Number: 1-727-771-1815
E-Mail: hawknest4@juno.com Web site:
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Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2000 14:43:01 -0700
From: hawknest4@juno.com
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Bag Question
cpt L.
if you have a jpg of your shooting bag i sure would like to see a picture
of it ---mine is a double beavertail and I can send you a copy of it in
jpg's---its maid out of a old leather mail pouch.---
YMHOSANT
"HAWK"
Michael Pierce "Home of ".Old Grizz" Product line " trademark (C)
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