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hist_text-digest        Monday, April 24 2000        Volume 01 : Number 524



In this issue:

-áááááá MtMan-List: Battle of colloden and trade faire
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Re: David Thompsn - Expedition 2000 - The Passage
-áááááá MtMan-List: Old Saddle
-áááááá MtMan-List: Warm weather Mocs
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Old Saddle
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Warm weather Mocs
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List:Trade faire/events
-áááááá MtMan-List: Re: leather canteens
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Lewis & Clark
-áááááá MtMan-List: Old saddle
-áááááá MtMan-List: Mexican Saddle
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Warm weather Mocs
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Warm weather Mocs
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Warm weather Mocs
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Lewis & Clark
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Mexican Saddle

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Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2000 19:50:09 -0400
From: "John Hunt" <[e-mail]>
Subject: MtMan-List: Battle of colloden and trade faire

I would like to advise everyone of two events that are coming up in my area.

The first is a reenactment of the battle of culloden. The first battle was
New York state last year. As was told me their were several hundred
participants and public was several thousand. very big event and very
successful.

The second event is a jurried trade faire. The trade faire on Caesers creek.
Good and correct  period event. 1750-1790. many good traders with correct
period goods.

colloden May 13-14 2000. phone   [phone]

trade faire May 20-21 2000 phone [phone]

Both will be held at Caesers creek state park in Waynesville, Ohio  in
southwest Ohio. Easily reached from I-71 or I-75, about half way between
Cincinnati and Dayton Ohio. About 20-30 minutes north of cincinnati.

Got a place for tin tee-pee`s nearby. state park grounds.

Event site has showers and modern hooters on site.

Many old original log cabins on site, open for inspection. Most are
furnished with close period furnishings.


John (BIG JOHN) Hunt
Longhunter
Mountainman
southwest  Ohio


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Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2000 13:53:18 -0600
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Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Re: David Thompsn - Expedition 2000 - The Passage

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> A Mr. Pat Harbine, is planning an expedition to retrace the travels of David
> Thompson as written in his journals between 1804-1811.  It will be a group of
> between eight and 12 paddlers in single and tandem kayaks.  They will travel
> 750 miles in 23 days.  The trip begins July 29 at Bonners Ferry, Idaho and will
> travel north to Kinabasket Lake in British Columbia.  The cost is $450 and
> participants supply their own gear (can rent kayak, canoe) and food.
> Anyone interested may contact Mr. Harbine at [e-mail].  His phone number
> is 509-468-0954.  He will send you an itinerary.  Participants can travel the
> whole passage, or partial.
>
> Laura Glise

Laura,
Some of these style trips are good for the new person, or those wanting to just
see the area that Thompson was in.

The problem has been in the past and hasn't changed is, controlling what is used,
worn, and the attitude of the group - many being strangers to each other, with a
wide variety of time frames in mind.

This was tried a few years ago by a group from Chicago area, 10 day trip down the
Missouri to Ft. deChartre, ILL, similar guide-lines, bottom line was with all the
internal baloney they made 3 days and 2 nights, then many just packed up and left
the rented canoes, etc. By the third night it was over according to one of the
rental guys we talked to at deChartre. He felt he was lucky to retrieve his
canoes, lost his butt on the deal, not counting time spent getting the canoes.

Hopefully this doesn't happen with the trip you mentioned, they need to really
plan and make the rules very plain and clear to everyone.

Later
Buck




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Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2000 04:47:01 -0600
From: "Wynn & Gretchen Ormond" <[e-mail]>
Subject: MtMan-List: Old Saddle

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Browsing through an antique store I found an old saddle. It appears to =
be a wooden tree without a rawhide wrapping. It is either rawhide or =
very old leather making up the covering. It has a sheepskin lining on =
the under side. It has the look of being very old and hard used. I would =
be hard put to find a horse thin and small enough to fit under it. =
Without any history behind it, can it be calculated how old it is? Would =
anyone be interested in seeing pics? Or interested in the saddle for =
that matter.=20

By the way, it was on the suggestions made by Northwood that I was in =
the place in the first place. He is correct in that you can find some =
very serviceable items in such places.

YMOS

WY


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Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2000 04:54:46 -0600
From: "Wynn & Gretchen Ormond" <[e-mail]>
Subject: MtMan-List: Warm weather Mocs

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I have read quite a bit about winter mocs in the archives but not so =
much about the summertime version. Besides walking correctly ( I am =
learning) While staying reasonably accurate and not to hookey looking. =
What is the best way to make them thick enough to protect feet from the =
stickers and rocks that my mountains produce without the slightest =
concern for my appendages. Does anyone wear socks or blanket liners in =
summer?

YMOS

WY


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Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2000 18:03:48 -0500
From: "northwoods" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Old Saddle

I'd like to see a pic. I have some catalogs from some auction houses that
had sales specifically of old saddles, and that show hundreds of different
saddles and what they sold for at the time if you would want me to look in
it for you for more info on your find. You know another place that has a lot
of old saddles if you are interested in that kind of thing is a place called
":Kings Saddlery" in Sheridan, WY. If you are ever near there take a detour
and stop in, you will be absolutely flabbergasted at what they have. Lots of
other interesting items also as they have kind of a museum set up...

northwoods


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Date: April 23, 2000 5:44 PM
Subject: MtMan-List: Old Saddle


Browsing through an antique store I found an old saddle. It appears to be a
wooden tree without a rawhide wrapping. It is either rawhide or very old
leather making up the covering. It has a sheepskin lining on the under side.
It has the look of being very old and hard used. I would be hard put to find
a horse thin and small enough to fit under it. Without any history behind
it, can it be calculated how old it is? Would anyone be interested in seeing
pics? Or interested in the saddle for that matter.

By the way, it was on the suggestions made by Northwood that I was in the
place in the first place. He is correct in that you can find some very
serviceable items in such places.

YMOS

WY




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Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2000 13:22:01 -0600
From: Mike Moore <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Warm weather Mocs

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Wynn and Gretchen,
    First thing you need to know is that no matter what you do,
somethings
will always get in your mocs, stick in your feet or hurt you. We as
modern
people seem to have alot more tender feet than the ones who came before
us.
I use normal thickness deer leather with a wool pad ( made out of a left
over
piece of blanketing) in the summer along with my wool sock. This helps,
but
will never be like a the modern hiking shoes of today. Toughen up your
feet,
double up the soles if needed or use different pairs for different
surfaces.
There are places where a good rawhide bottom is great. But these are
very slippery when
wet or on grassly surfaces. A double sole gives you more of a modern
sole- but
will take twice as long to dry out when soaked. And sometimes you need
to use
your toes to grip when going on a hike, so a single thickness tradional
moc is right.
You might try making mocs (and you will get good at it when you replace
them once a
year or more) with different thickness leather. Even try cow leather. I
always have two
on hand, they don't take up much space. And see which works best for
you. Wool
socks (specially "booties" made out of  a thick wool blanket) help. If
you find you need
a special arch for support- use it. I have friends who do and they can
be hidden easily.
I also know a few guys who go bare foot at rendezvous to toughen up the
feet. And use
their mocs every where else.
                                                    mike.

Wynn & Gretchen Ormond wrote:

> I have read quite a bit about winter mocs in the archives but not so
> much about the summertime version. Besides walking correctly ( I am
> learning) While staying reasonably accurate and not to hookey looking.
> What is the best way to make them thick enough to protect feet from
> the stickers and rocks that my mountains produce without the slightest
> concern for my appendages. Does anyone wear socks or blanket liners in
> summer?
>
> YMOS
>
> WY

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Wynn and Gretchen,
<br>    First thing you need to know is that no matter what
you do, somethings
<br>will always get in your mocs, stick in your feet or hurt you. We as
modern
<br>people seem to have alot more tender feet than the ones who came before
us.
<br>I use normal thickness deer leather with a wool pad ( made out of a
left over
<br>piece of blanketing) in the summer along with my wool sock. This helps,
but
<br>will never be like a the modern hiking shoes of today. Toughen up your
feet,
<br>double up the soles if needed or use different pairs for different
surfaces.
<br>There are places where a good rawhide bottom is great. But these are
very slippery when
<br>wet or on grassly surfaces. A double sole gives you more of a modern
sole- but
<br>will take twice as long to dry out when soaked. And sometimes you need
to use
<br>your toes to grip when going on a hike, so a single thickness tradional
moc is right.
<br>You might try making mocs (and you will get good at it when you replace
them once a
<br>year or more) with different thickness leather. Even try cow leather.
I always have two
<br>on hand, they don't take up much space. And see which works best for
you. Wool
<br>socks (specially "booties" made out of  a thick wool blanket)
help. If you find you need
<br>a special arch for support- use it. I have friends who do and they
can be hidden easily.
<br>I also know a few guys who go bare foot at rendezvous to toughen up
the feet. And use
<br>their mocs every where else.
<br>
mike.
<p>Wynn & Gretchen Ormond wrote:
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<p>I have read quite a bit about winter mocs in the archives but not so
much about the summertime version. Besides walking correctly ( I am learning)
While staying reasonably accurate and not to hookey looking. What is the
best way to make them thick enough to protect feet from the stickers and
rocks that my mountains produce without the slightest concern for my appendages.
Does anyone wear socks or blanket liners in summer?
<p>YMOS
<p>WY</blockquote>

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Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2000 09:08:12 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: MtMan-List:Trade faire/events

Hello in the camp,

Speaking of events and things to do this Thursday April 27th thru Sunday
there is a BIG market faire at the French and Indian War Fort at Ft.
Frederick State Park in Maryland.  That is right up at the skinneyest part of
the Maryland western arm.  If you need a gun, a pot, a wig, a hat, a set of
new beads this is the event to go to.  Great shopping and great camp.  Camp
fills up fast and they limit the number of campers but if you get there early
Thursday you may even still get in to camp.  The fort at night is great and
the folks are friendly.

Hope to see you there.

Your Humble Servant

C.T. Oakes

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Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2000 06:21:36 -0700
From: "Poorboy" <[e-mail]>
Subject: MtMan-List: Re: leather canteens

Klahowya my friends;

It has been several weeks since I have been on line, but the agricultural
planting season here is winding down.  So here goes.....  I would like to
gather any information that anyone could share concerning the construction
and sealing of leather canteens.  Also any documentation of use between 1760
and 1840.  If photographs or specifics are available as to size, etc. these
would also be appreciated.
YMOS
PoorBoy



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Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2000 11:41:26 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Lewis & Clark

    Evidently, this journey is not as easy as one might think.
    You might want to read River Horse by William Least Heat Moon.  He made a
water route all across the U.S. beginning in New York.  He used Lewis and
Clark's journals for that section of his journey and contrasted the modern
with the historic.

    Steve Huss

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Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2000 08:54:52 -0700 (PDT)
From: Ronald Schrotter <[e-mail]>
Subject: MtMan-List: Old saddle

Wynne, I too would like to see pix of the old saddle
you picked up.  It is impossible to give an estimate
of age with your current description.  What is the
size of the seat?  The mustang ponies of the old west
were quite a bit smaller than horses of today, but if
it is a full size saddle it can be used with proper
padding.  Send pix to me off line, and I will try to
help, or post them on site and you will probably get a
lot of comments.  YMOS< Dog, Gabe's Hole Brig.

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Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2000 09:15:33 -0700
From: "Roger Lahti" <[e-mail]>
Subject: MtMan-List: Mexican Saddle

Speaking of Mexican Saddles, a Brother has a new one for sale. He is in
Lewiston Idaho and the saddle is with me in Kennewick, WA. There was someone
interested in it a while back through another member of this list. I have
deleted the original message and thus the contact information.

Anyone out there that is interested in the saddle or was originally involved
in the above exchange please contact me. Thanks and I remain....

YMOS
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Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2000 12:32:25 -0700
From: "Roger Lahti" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Warm weather Mocs

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WY,

I live in desert basalt country, even where there are tree's, the basalt =
grows better than the vegetation. Lots of sharp rock. I have found that =
a "shoe pack" moc works well. It is constructed of two sole pieces made =
of oil tanned leather about 1/8" thick each. The upper is formed of two =
pieces of leather sewn to the sole's with a double running stitch and =
joined up the center of the toe area with a baseball or cross stitch. =
They can be as high as you wish, have a tongue or not and do a fine job =
of turning most anything I can run into. If you cut a shallow slit =
between stitch holes on the bottom sole piece, the thread will lay in  =
that slit and not wear as quickly as it otherwise might, even though it =
comes out the bottom just like the stitch on some leather shoes. You =
could even sew on a heal of two or more pieces of stout leather if you =
cared to. It is not even necessary to make the uppers in two pieces if =
you use soft leather like brained deer as it will mold to the top shape =
of your foot.=20

Greased up properly they will turn quit a bit of moisture too. And you =
can make them so they fit with what ever combination of blanket bootee =
or sock you want to wear. I usually don't wear blanket bootees in summer =
but do wear socks. Hope that helps. I remain....

YMOS
Capt. Lahti'

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shoes. You=20
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Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2000 16:32:49 -0400
From: Bob Spencer <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Warm weather Mocs

In the summertime in Kentucky, where the soil is deep and soft and the
rocks are  usually limestone, sometimes sandstone, I find I get by just
fine with a pretty simple outfit for my feet. I make regular centerseam
moccasins of elk hide,
http://members.aye.net/~bspen/Pictures/Centerseams.jpg but add a thin liner
or innersole. This is made of a harder vegetable tanned leather, but is
thin, only about 4-6 oz. I skive the edge for 1/2 inch, and they conform to
the bottom of my foot nicely, so I never know they are there. They add just
that little extra protection I need. I usually wear one pair of wool
knee-length stockings with them, and it makes for comfortable feet in all
conditions.

I always wear them with the tops turned up and lapped around the ankle,
with a thong passed under my instep, tied once on top, then wrapped twice
around the ankle and tied. Secure, won't slip around on your foot, and the
thong gives a little bit of extra traction. With leggings down over the
whole top, nothing ever gets in my moccasins.

I gave up trying to waterproof moccasins years ago.

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Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2000 17:31:44 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Warm weather Mocs

> but add a thin liner
>  or innersole. This is made of a harder vegetable tanned leather, but is
>  thin, only about 4-6 oz. I skive the edge for 1/2 inch, and they conform to
>  the bottom of my foot nicely, so I never know they are there

A little addenda to Bob's description of an inner sole.

I always make my mocs smooth side out and rough side in.  If you make inner
soles, cut them so that the rough side is down.  As you wear them, the rough
sides will kind of interlace with one another and bond firm.  If you put the
smooth side of the inner sole down, then when you wear the mocs, the inner
sole will slide.  If you get your mocs wet, then they will take on a lopsided
set and keep rolling to one side.

I first learned this with a pair of kit centerseams.  All the inner soles are
cut in advance, but all are cut the same way.  Thus, you either have two
lefts or two rights.  The mocassin that you have to put the smooth side down
in, will be the moccasin that goes screwy on you.

I now line all my mocs with wool during the building process (double
thickness-1 layer hide/1 layer wool) and put the inner sole on the wool.  The
rough of the inner sole locks into the wool fibers.  These keep your feet
warmer and drier during wet weather, and the wool inner dries out quicker
from that early morning dew bath they always get.  You don't need to wear
socks with them until the weather gets much colder.....probably in the 30's.

Dave Kanger

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Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2000 14:34:09 -0700 (PDT)
From: Lee Newbill <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Lewis & Clark

On Mon, 24 Apr 2000 [e-mail] wrote:
>     Evidently, this journey is not as easy as one might think.

Hallo

Some of us here in the Great Pacific NW have contemplated such a journey,
but for most of us, work rules out completion in one shot... additional
problems we have talked about, are the miles and miles of now slack water
that lay between the headwaters of the Columbia, and the Pacific Ocean,
particularly if you were to attempt the journey in dugouts.

Gives you a new understanding of why our beautiful Salmon are now little
more than just a treasured memory in one of the most heavily dammed
rivers.... ah, what price progress?

A rowed/sailed battuex or frieghter Canot de Nord would be the way to go,
that and sixty? days of vacation to prep and run the River of the
West.

An interesting thought.

Your Most Obedient Servant...

Lee Newbill of Viola, Idaho
Clerk of the Hog Heaven Muzzleloaders
http://www.geocities.com/~lnewbill



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Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2000 23:18:56 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Mexican Saddle

You didn't mention a price.  Is it a Charro saddle?

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